But we got to see a lot of what is happening elsewhere. That's my favourite part of Egghead so far, Garp vs Blackbeard Pirates, the short fights of Law vs Blackbeard and whatever Kid vs Shanks was supposed to be. The Kuma flashback one of the best flashbacks of post time skip.
The actual story on Egghead so far is a miss for me, even though I liked most of the single chapters.
My opinion on Egghead as a finished arc depends on how it concludes the events on the island.
What recently came to my mind, since Saturn kinda summoned himself on Egghead, could Oda try to replicate the forces ghost stuff from Luke from Starwars Episode 8?
Of course Saturn interacts with people and was able to hurt Vegapunk, but this could be explained somehow, I hope.
Chapter 1106: On Your Side
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@Captain-M said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
she prob thinks Luffy is doing his best under these circumstances
That would be a rational way to think about it. Unfortunately, emotions aren't always logical, the emotions of 12-year-olds especially so.
I don't think it's super likely that Oda would do an adversarial/disillusionment arc for Bonney from here - it's just not his style of conflict - but the possibilities are fun to think about.
Well Bonney just learned the harsh reality of Kuma’s situation and knows that Luffy is trying to defeat an Admiral, someone she dreaded showing up when she stopped Zoro from attacking a Celestial Dragon. So if those aren’t signs of Bonney learning the consequences, then I don’t know what is. lol
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People who believe that this series is first and foremost a goofy comic with no room for serious moments really need to have another reread. Remember how Luffy laughed his ass off after he found out how Crocodile had been messing with Toto? Or Bellamy with Cricket? Or the Franky Family with Usopp? Or when Charlos shot Hachi? Or when the Boa sisters threatened to destroy Marguerite and her friends? Or when he met Blackbeard in Impel Down? Do I need to go on?
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" I wrote it as a big joke and i knew my readers would feel disgusted by it "
such statement is enough.
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Luffy did goofy stuff yes, but he always treated fights seriously. Nowadays (this chapter and a Wano chapter vs Kaidou), he’s straight up saying he’s fighting for fun.
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@blue-san said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
Guys you realize we are fast approaching 50 chapters of Egghead arc.
To put things into perspective
- Drum + impel down together = 50 chapters
- Logue Town + orange Town + Amazon Lilly + little garden is less then Egghead
IN OTHER words man where are those 20-30 chapters arcs
Most thought this was a 25-30 chapter arc. I remember well. This is what happens when you go off preference
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@Sengokusgoat said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
The flashback is always around the midpoint. Another 40 chapters of Egghead seems absurd, but 20 at least I think is very likely.
The Skypiea flashback was right before the climax. Franky's flashback was one of the last things done in Water Seven before departing for the sea train chase and on to Enies Lobby. Brook's flashback and Luffy/Ace/Sabo's were after the climaxes of their respective arcs.
And structures are flexible, even for Oda. The cutaway sequence earlier is an example of a huge departure from his normal storytelling style, so we can't fully rely on precedent.
I think we have to be wrapping up soon. The tension bubble has burst, the exposition has been done and the emotional arc has come full circle. I reserve the right to change my mind on that if too many new complications start showing up in the next chapter, but what we've seen so far feels like it's setting up the end. Right now, I'm hoping for Elbaf by the end of volume 110.
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@Captain-M said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@Sengokusgoat said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
The flashback is always around the midpoint. Another 40 chapters of Egghead seems absurd, but 20 at least I think is very likely.
The Skypiea flashback was right before the climax. Franky's flashback was one of the last things done in Water Seven before departing for the sea train chase and on to Enies Lobby. Brook's flashback and Luffy/Ace/Sabo's were after the climaxes of their respective arcs.
And structures are flexible, even for Oda. The cutaway sequence earlier is an example of a huge departure from his normal storytelling style, so we can't fully rely on precedent.
I think we have to be wrapping up soon. The tension bubble has burst, the exposition has been done and the emotional arc has come full circle. I reserve the right to change my mind on that if too many new complications start showing up in the next chapter, but what we've seen so far feels like it's setting up the end. Right now, I'm hoping for Elbaf by the end of volume 110.
To follow-up Bonney getting a Pacifista and two Giants showing up with 20 more chapters of fighting would be pretty redundant. Oda would need an extremely compelling reason to have this arc go on much longer.
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@Captain-M said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@Sengokusgoat said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
The flashback is always around the midpoint. Another 40 chapters of Egghead seems absurd, but 20 at least I think is very likely.
The Skypiea flashback was right before the climax. Franky's flashback was one of the last things done in Water Seven before departing for the sea train chase and on to Enies Lobby. Brook's flashback and Luffy/Ace/Sabo's were after the climaxes of their respective arcs.
And structures are flexible, even for Oda. The cutaway sequence earlier is an example of a huge departure from his normal storytelling style, so we can't fully rely on precedent.
I think we have to be wrapping up soon. The tension bubble has burst, the exposition has been done and the emotional arc has come full circle. I reserve the right to change my mind on that if too many new complications start showing up in the next chapter, but what we've seen so far feels like it's setting up the end. Right now, I'm hoping for Elbaf by the end of volume 110.
Well the end of Water 7 isn't really the real resolution of that conflict and the Brook/ASL one don't serve the usual purpose of most arc flashbacks of adding dramatic weight to the upcoming conflict. Skypea I'll give you because it is exactly that, and the whole idea of Luffy as savior against an evil god is actually very similar.
You're probably correct that 'the tension bubble has burst, the exposition has been done and the emotional arc has come full circle'. It's just we still need to do the actual action phase, and that's usually a good chunk of each arc. So I think the disagreement here is less about the story structure and more about the scope of the resolution. In this case we don't even really know what the actually resolution will be.
I personally think that given the setup with the Egghead incident and all that, it's going to be fairly major ordeal.
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@Captain-M There's some weird stuff on how this arc was done. It's possible, but so weird, if the heroes just fight their way off and escape.
- The Straw Hats did practically nothing so far
- There's a ton of unresolved stuff (the Iron Giant, Seraphim, Mother Flame, York, the Blackbeard ship, who fed Luffy, Robin's wounds...)
- It feels like the villains have been a pretty big letdown. When we stop to think about it, they arrived in 1089, and we stopped 8 chapters for the flashback, so they'd only been a presence for 9 ou of 47 chapters.
I could see the arc ending with a ton of unresolved stuff that will make sense later in the final saga. But, at the same time, it doesn't feel like that's a great resolution. Will we beat Saturn so Bonney and Kuma get justice, or will we just bail?
I seriously can't tell, and this wouldn't be the first nor second time in this arc shifts in unexpected ways. I'm still pissed off for the Labophase off-screen resolution, and then when we returned a lot of people were certain the arc would soon end with the heroes escaping soon after Ch 1089.
I feel we could still have the villains pulling out some serious guns to turn the tide in their favor again. There's enough threats remaining to provide match-ups for each crewmate and then some (9 vice-admirals, 4 Seraphim, York, Kizaru, Saturn, potentially the Blackbeard ship...). I'm not saying we will get that, thought, I'm just pointing out there are still too many elements in this arc to consider it near its end.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
To follow-up Bonney getting a Pacifista and two Giants showing up with 20 more chapters of fighting would be pretty redundant. Oda would need an extremely compelling reason to have this arc go on much longer.
Plus the big robot if it starts moving. The crew has already decided their goal is to abandon Egghead and escape, and there's not much to stop them doing that now. Once everyone reaches the Sunny they're basically home clear.
The biggest way to change that would be if they decide to hold their ground and save the island/lab instead. But it's hard to picture that happening. It's not worth it when they can't leave Vegapunk there for fear of assassination and can't take much more of the tech than they already have with them.
@Sengokusgoat said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
You're probably correct that 'the tension bubble has burst, the exposition has been done and the emotional arc has come full circle'. It's just we still need to do the actual action phase, and that's usually a good chunk of each arc. So I think the disagreement here is less about the story structure and more about the scope of the resolution. In this case we don't even really know what the actually resolution will be.
I personally think that given the setup with the Egghead incident and all that, it's going to be fairly major ordeal.I admit, it's easy for the wrap-up battling to stretch on for a whole lot of chapters. I almost put Chopper's flashback on my initial list, remembering that Drum's ending fights all happen right after it, but it turns out those fights take as long as the whole pre-flashback part of the arc anyway. If Oda wants to end this with traditional fights, even just one big one, then yeah the odds of it taking a while increase.
But this thing really hasn't been played as a stand and fight arc so far. And the Egghead Incident is juuuust vague enough that it could be anything from what's just happened to basically any yearlong escalation you can think of. The arc as a whole might just be the Egghead Incident, depending on how many of the fine details make it out to the world.
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We've reached the point where I now have to hope for awakening to save the stakes again... come on Oda. It's time to show us Logia awakening at last and have Kizaru just start blowing up the island himself. It's the only thing left I can think of that would really force us to leave fast anymore.
I don't want to see the scenario where the Giants actually make it to shore, dock, and have enough time for Bonney to direct all the pacifistas to board the ship, and still leave safely. Leave them behind and force the government to come up with a counter measure to Bonney just taking them in the near future.
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Realistically I’m expecting a scenario where Bonney as a 12 year old doesn’t realize the value of her ability to control the Pacifistas, leaves them on the island while they escape, and then the WG reprograms them to not have Bonney on top of the hierarchy (though given the WG’s track record I’m doubting the latter would occur).
To actually drive up the stakes though and keep tension I think Bonney would have to be kidnapped or killed during the arc in order for the Pacifistas to not be under SH ally control anymore (being killed’s not gonna happen to a 12 year old though)
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@hideoushorrendous said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
" I wrote it as a big joke and i knew my readers would feel disgusted by it "
such statement is enough.
Yeah that's cool. Too bad Oda never said that, but if he did, I would like him even more.
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@FatDogForMidTerms he didn't say it like that, but he did say something that gets to this idea, just not with... such aggressive words.
https://wsstalkback.blogspot.com/2022/07/mysterious-pirates-of-sunday-seas_22.html?m=1
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Oda: I drew this because I really want to have fun, and I think that it’s okay if people don't like it. I just want to play around with my battles. Since I was an assistant, I have felt that silly expressions that were so characteristic in manga have been gradually lost. Putting a light bulb in a character’s head when they come up with some idea, or making the character’s legs go in circles when they’re running, for example.Aoyama: Right, also those eyes popping out.
Oda: I have always loved those symbolic expressions, but they keep disappearing. Nobody draws them anymore even though they’re our predecessors' creations who also left many formulae we still use. Battle manga has to keep getting more and more serious to keep up with readers’ expectations and I honestly hate that. I definitely don’t want my work to become a serious manga like that. I want and have decided to have fun, and I feel like I’m finally able to do that. When I was drawing this, I actually had fun."
It's still about him being able to do whatever interests him without caring about what readers would feel or fear of backlash. Which, I agree with you, is very cool.
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Oh man, that's great. That's just the right attitude to have about your own work. Just do whatever makes you happy. Readers either follow you or they don't.
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Sandman is the best translator, he's a Japanese to ENG unlike the rest ( Viz included ) who are the opposite and give us guesses of what they think it ( JP texts ) might mean.
here is the link :
I advise following him on twitter, he's the goat of the OP fandom. Great enough to correct Viz and then the latter admits and corrects the official to Sandman's translation. Goat stuff.
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Hahaha, that's awesome. Good for him. I really hope he just goes all out in the final stretch. Nothing but pure goofiness.
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The dom shoes have a hover function, but Atlas wasn't nice enough to tell Franky.
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Wasn't there some old Oda quote about how he hated when fans guessed his ideas, and how he would feel compelled to change them to maintain the suprise element. Maybe i'm remembering it wrong, but it felt related to his desire to subvert his fans expectations.
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@Captain-M There's some weird stuff on how this arc was done. It's possible, but so weird, if the heroes just fight their way off and escape.
- The Straw Hats did practically nothing so far
- There's a ton of unresolved stuff (the Iron Giant, Seraphim, Mother Flame, York, the Blackbeard ship, who fed Luffy, Robin's wounds...)
- It feels like the villains have been a pretty big letdown. When we stop to think about it, they arrived in 1089, and we stopped 8 chapters for the flashback, so they'd only been a presence for 9 ou of 47 chapters.
I could see the arc ending with a ton of unresolved stuff that will make sense later in the final saga. But, at the same time, it doesn't feel like that's a great resolution. Will we beat Saturn so Bonney and Kuma get justice, or will we just bail?
I seriously can't tell, and this wouldn't be the first nor second time in this arc shifts in unexpected ways. I'm still pissed off for the Labophase off-screen resolution, and then when we returned a lot of people were certain the arc would soon end with the heroes escaping soon after Ch 1089.
I feel we could still have the villains pulling out some serious guns to turn the tide in their favor again. There's enough threats remaining to provide match-ups for each crewmate and then some (9 vice-admirals, 4 Seraphim, York, Kizaru, Saturn, potentially the Blackbeard ship...). I'm not saying we will get that, thought, I'm just pointing out there are still too many elements in this arc to consider it near its end.
You made me realize that maybe I've been thinking about this arc in the wrong way. Before, I thought that all the cutaways to other places was Oda's way of world building before get back to the typical Straw Hat stuff on a new island. But maybe this entire arc is mainly for world building and setup, Egghead included.
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Maybe it was when his editors guessed things
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@wolfwood said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
Wasn't there some old Oda quote about how he hated when fans guessed his ideas, and how he would feel compelled to change them to maintain the suprise element. Maybe i'm remembering it wrong, but it felt related to his desire to subvert his fans expectations.
Feel like it was brought up more, but found a 2019 quote where Oda said he’d change the ending if someone guessed it right (though it’s clarified by Greg in the article that the quote was likely meant to be tongue in cheek): https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-01-10/one-piece-creator-the-end-is-near-but-series-will-be-just-over-100-volumes/.141858
That was also clarified a couple years later to not be the case and Oda has the ending is set in stone.
Only other source I could find that’s similar is Oda’s thoughts on YouTubers from an interview in volume 101 where he says he avoids them for possibly being on the mark, and doesn’t write to mega fans knowledge of the series given they likely notice things casual fans don’t and he doesn’t want to forget about the casual fans when writing his story. https://otakuusamagazine.com/why-eiichiro-oda-wont-watch-one-piece-youtube-videos/
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@Gizmo said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@wolfwood said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
Wasn't there some old Oda quote about how he hated when fans guessed his ideas, and how he would feel compelled to change them to maintain the suprise element. Maybe i'm remembering it wrong, but it felt related to his desire to subvert his fans expectations.
Feel like it was brought up more, but found a 2019 quote where Oda said he’d change the ending if someone guessed it right (though it’s clarified by Greg in the article that the quote was likely meant to be tongue in cheek): https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-01-10/one-piece-creator-the-end-is-near-but-series-will-be-just-over-100-volumes/.141858
That was also clarified a couple years later to not be the case and Oda has the ending is set in stone.
Only other source I could find that’s similar is Oda’s thoughts on YouTubers from an interview in volume 101 where he says he avoids them for possibly being on the mark, and doesn’t write to mega fans knowledge of the series given they likely notice things casual fans don’t and he doesn’t want to forget about the casual fans when writing his story. https://otakuusamagazine.com/why-eiichiro-oda-wont-watch-one-piece-youtube-videos/
Yep. I recall Oda mentioned in an SBS that he felt to explain what the Going Merry was since there are apparently many later readers who never read a chapter with the Going Merry in it, because there are people, many of them prob kids, who just pick up a later chapter and don’t bother reading the earlier chapters.
Oda even said that there are readers out there who might not even realize that Luffy was the first member of the Straw Hats, and could assume that the Straw Hat Pirates were started by someone else and that Luffy just inherited it.
It’s stuff like that is why Oda sometimes puts in his own recaps and repeats character names in infoboxes.
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I really hope that we see Saturn die . I know that Oda has a thing about killing and does it very rarely but I really feel that this death is sorely needed . I predict that Kim’s will probably be the one to kill him and die in the process . It’s hard to tell but Kizaru seems to have done a number on Kuma in addition to his already serious injuries so I could see him going out in a blaze of glory and taking out such evil . And wouldn’t that be something ? The sheer impact around the world would be amazing
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If Joyboy was a giant, what if the king of elbaf feels that he should have been the chosen one and not Luffy and because of that he becomes an enemy at first?.
By the way, I love the whole nika thing, well done Oda. My only problem with it is that Nika is not trashing everybody, because I believe he should. The only people who should give him problem are Blackbeard after he becomes whatever ancient character he’s supposed to become, AKAINU because vengeance must be hard and epic and Imu because he’s been the main evil for most of the history of one piece.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
Oda even said that there are readers out there who might not even realize that Luffy was the first member of the Straw Hats, and could assume that the Straw Hat Pirates were started by someone else and that Luffy just inherited it.
Well didn’t he?. Seems to me that the first strawhat pirates were the Rogers and then the red hairs
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Egghead as of now also feels to me like it's going to end in 3 chapters at most, but on the other hand Saturn has really been built up as the despiceable villain that gets taken down in a big climax. Saving him for later would remove most of the catharsis for all the Kuma/Bonney related stuff... Who knows.
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@realtenchu said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
Oda even said that there are readers out there who might not even realize that Luffy was the first member of the Straw Hats, and could assume that the Straw Hat Pirates were started by someone else and that Luffy just inherited it.
Well didn’t he?. Seems to me that the first strawhat pirates were the Rogers and then the red hairs
Those are the Roger Pirates and Red Hair Pirates though, not Straw Hat Pirates. lol
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I don't think Egghead ends b4 1120. Especially with the infamous "climax" quote in the preview lol
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@wolfwood said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
Wasn't there some old Oda quote about how he hated when fans guessed his ideas, and how he would feel compelled to change them to maintain the suprise element. Maybe i'm remembering it wrong, but it felt related to his desire to subvert his fans expectations.
I still think this is why Shiryu didn’t get the diamond diamond fruit
And where the hell is Jozu anyway?
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I think some fans overestimate how much they influence Oda, especially us non-Japanese fans. Oda's smart enough to not let the inmates run the asylum.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:\
Oda even said that there are readers out there who might not even realize that Luffy was the first member of the Straw Hats, and could assume that the Straw Hat Pirates were started by someone else and that Luffy just inherited it.
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Didn't even know this was a thing lol
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@Nectar said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
I think some fans overestimate how much they influence Oda, especially us non-Japanese fans. Oda's smart enough to not let the inmates run the asylum.
Once Oda reads this he's bound to do the opposite
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I believe Egghead easily has 15 chapters left, I feel Kizaru would have stayed dazed on the ground if the arc was going to end quickly after the flashback
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@Nectar said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
I think some fans overestimate how much they influence Oda, especially us non-Japanese fans. Oda's smart enough to not let the inmates run the asylum.
Frankly, any author that changes plans because a portion of the audience figure out or randomly guess a resolution is a very terrible storyteller. You can’t really lay out clues and be upset people figured them out, nor you can expect no one in millions of fans will ever guess an outcome. Changing things does not retroactively changes past build-up, you end up messing your whole story.
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@MetaMario said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:\
Oda even said that there are readers out there who might not even realize that Luffy was the first member of the Straw Hats, and could assume that the Straw Hat Pirates were started by someone else and that Luffy just inherited it.
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Didn't even know this was a thing lolYep:
“D: Hello, Oda. This is the first letter I've written to you. I always have fun reading. Really. So when you wrote in a SBS in volume 53 that you were going to slowly bring One Piece to a close, I ran to get a pen. Please don't say anything like that again. Don't say you're sorry for making us spent money, please. I know that this is a SBS, but I don't have any questions. - Taba
O: What do you mean no question!! But after I said that in Volume 53, I got a mountain of postcards like this, so I was surprised. There's no deep meaning behind it! Um, first, when I was talking about an ideal length of publication, I was thinking about the readers who have to buy all of the books. As an author, I always want new readers, but people who started reading in the middle, for example, might not know that Luffy was the first member of the Straw Hat Pirates.
I want them to know what kind of adventures they had and the friends they made along the way, but I can't just tell them to buy more than 50 books, right!? Even I know that kids don't have that kind of money!” - SBS 54
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@The-Franky-Tank said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
S-Bear, so this helps even the odds overall with the numbers.
Nice point about S-Bear. Perhaps, S-Bear had been acting out during one of it's missions that's why it had to be returned by CP0 or perhaps, it had acquired the hidden nature of the Bucaneers, whatever Vegapunk was trying to say in previous chapter.
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@haploid said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@The-Franky-Tank said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
S-Bear, so this helps even the odds overall with the numbers.
Nice point about S-Bear. Perhaps, S-Bear had been acting out during one of it's missions that's why it had to be returned by CP0 or perhaps, it had acquired the hidden nature of the Bucaneers, whatever Vegapunk was trying to say in previous chapter.
Maybe Kuma had some telepathic link with S-Bear, and that telepathy is the special characteristic of Buccaneers.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@haploid said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
@The-Franky-Tank said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
S-Bear, so this helps even the odds overall with the numbers.
Nice point about S-Bear. Perhaps, S-Bear had been acting out during one of it's missions that's why it had to be returned by CP0 or perhaps, it had acquired the hidden nature of the Bucaneers, whatever Vegapunk was trying to say in previous chapter.
Maybe Kuma had some telepathic link with S-Bear, and that telepathy is the special characteristic of Buccaneers.
I dunno about telepathy, One Piece has ridiculous powers it may or may not happen.
Though, Vegapunk hesitated to describe what the special characteristics of the Buccaneers was because he can't provide any proof of it, he is a scientist after all. Vegapunk said in 1099 "I don't have enough of a sample size to explain." in response to Kuma's question What's so special to my blood. That kinda means whatever the Buccaneers were known for, it probably becomes noticeable the more they are. Incidentally, Pacifistas were created with the blood of a buccaneer, who knows what it'll be. Hope it's not something so ridiculous as the Tontatta's gullibility.
On a side note, I'm starting to think the Dorry and Broggy did not get Luffy because he's their friend but because he is Sun God Nika. Remember how it was in Chapter 866, the residents of Elbaf had been mentioning "Sun" multiple times before and during the fasting. And in 867, "Sun God" was also mentioned once to refer Pandora. I think Oda is trying to convey that Sun God Nika will become more relevant to Elbaf than Straw Hat Luffy will be.
It has been awhile since I posted in this forums, I'm happy to be back. The old members who discuss(ed) One Piece here really know their stuff and are more on the topic than the newer generation of One Piece readers that can be found in the Discord of the scan teams.
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Another note on S-bear, I can see that even if Vegapunk didn't give a special override like he did the regular Pacifistas, I can still see S-bear taking Bonney's side. S-Snake did Luffy a favor since her attachment to him transferred over her. With Kuma having such a strong bond with Bonney, I have no reason to doubt that S-Bear would have a strong attachment to Bonney and would at the very least do no harm to Bonney ever. I doubt it will happen this arc with all of them, but with the idea of them gaining their own will eventually, something will occur where the World Government will lose any and all control over them, or at the very least, they will be less effective in certain situations depending on the personality of each one.
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It is really odd that we started this arc with Lilith going on about how natural instincts can't be overridden and whatnot and we kept building to it, and yet we've had two chances for robots to rebel against their programming and they've been explained away differently (Kuma has a special Buccaneer trait, Vegapunk messed with the Pacifistas chain of command). This arc seemed like it was going for a 'human emotion can trump science' kinda theme, but I don't feel like we've truly gotten that yet.
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Oda plays freely with scale. When you think about it, being pierced by Saturn's leg should split Vegapunk in half...
For reference, notice in the Kuma panel adult Bonney in his arms, and compare her to Saturn's leg width.
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@wolfwood said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
That is kind of an interesting question really. Is the DF power itself making him laugh? Like does it tickle him, does his heartbeat sound like Rodney Dangerfield jokes to him perhaps. Or is he channeling this mad Nika diety that always laughs? At the moment i can't think of any DF that seemingly altered your mood as a part of it's power bestowal. But then again we rarely seem people before and after, like was Aokiji lazy to begin with or did his DF make him chill.
A man of culture I see.
It's been bugging me since it was revealed Luffy is zoan. Like, I don't think the fruit affected Luffy's personality from the moment he ate it, and yet it's a disturbing notion. At what point does zoan start to change a person's behavior anyway? Logically, it happens way before the Awakening, since those Impel Down guard couldn't have gotten like that over one night. I'd assume they used their ability more and more until the animal part became dominant or an equal partner, whatever it is that's going on. And then there are guys like Lucci who managed to get the most of their fruit while keeping the human part dominant.
Probably comes down to willpower so Luffy should have been pretty safe from the fruit's influence. But then now he acts different when in G5. He fucking laughs differently!
I'm wondering if it means Oda will delve deeper into this issue. If so, what else happens to Luffy? Will he start unlocking memories eventually?
Just hoping Luffy becomes more and more himself as he puts some reins on his Awakening
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Being an animal or creature/Zoan I’m thinking the personality of the creature is influencing Luffy just a bit. Like Chopper and what I’m certain is an awakened/semi awakened state, Monster Point, Luffy will eventually learn how to handle Gear 5 better in the future. Both physically and mentally of course.
Brook’s social skills deteriorated while being alone for so long. Upon meeting the crew and joining in, you could see him slowly becoming a little more tolerable in social settings along with the lessening of his Skull Jokes.
When Sanji returned from the other Isle of Women, his head was all messed up when around women, bleeding all over the place. Then over the course of Sabaody and Fishman Island he slowly started to go back to normal.
Those are just two of many examples that I think Luffy will follow. His mind isn’t used to the entity that is Zoan Nika and its personality seeps into Luffy a bit. It doesn’t seem to control Luffy’s decisions but it’s just a new feeling Luffy hasn’t gotten used to yet.
I want to say like Gear 2, it won’t tax or hurt Luffy’s body in the future but a part of me is wondering if this rapid withering could actually result into something awful for Luffy in the future. The mind part however, I’m betting Luffy will always laugh while using Gear 5 but as time goes on those hits will feel less potent and we’ll see less and less of the doubling over and cracking up uncontrollably.
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Didn't someone post that Interview of Oda, where he said he wanted to draw something more fun a couple of posts ago?@hideoushorrendous said in Chapter 1106: On Your Side:
Sandman is the best translator, he's a Japanese to ENG unlike the rest ( Viz included ) who are the opposite and give us guesses of what they think it ( JP texts ) might mean.
here is the link :
I advise following him on twitter, he's the goat of the OP fandom. Great enough to correct Viz and then the latter admits and corrects the official to Sandman's translation. Goat stuff.
So I'd say Luffy laughing won't stop any time soon.
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