@electricmastro:

It matters because to disregard Zoro and Usopp's pasts just because there were over 1,000 chapters ago and not the same as pasts like Nami's pasts might be setting the bar a little too high, with all due respect.

If you really don't think Oda's standards for how to construct a crewmate flashback changed over the years we'll have to agree to disagree. If people got Zoro and Usopp-level backstories for a new member, they would be rightfully disappointed. Yamato is still above that, of course, but I still think it's disappointing compared to all of the others and I really didn't think that would be controversial if he is to become a crewmate.

I don't know dude, sometimes this thread feels like a battleground where you have to pick a side and disregard and dismiss any points made by the "other team". It just gets tiring.

@Bugs Man, y'all go to far. Yeah, it sure looks plausible that Oda would do that. One Piece, the series extremely famous for saying blood is the only thing that matters in parent-child relatioships.

@Daz said in Chapter 1066: The Will of Ohara:

@Hades said in Chapter 1066: The Will of Ohara:

The tears of joy were the second cry when he found out that Saul was alive, the first one (the one where the Straw Hats got angry) was tears of sadness to be remembering the tragedy of Ohara.

The first instance of Robin crying is prompted by Vegapunks reveal that the research of Ohara was saved, that Ohara "won", a fact he says moved him to tears - cue a Robin crying too after a flashback showing Ohara fighting to preserve its findings for the future. It's very much a reaction to good news

I can see that, but I think you can also interpret it by Robin being made to remember tragic memories, I'm not sure she was already on the mindset to be happy about it instead of reliving trauma.

@Bugs Man, y'all go to far. Yeah, it sure looks plausible that Oda would do that. One Piece, the series extremely famous for saying blood is the only thing that matters in parent-child relatioships.

@Ivotas but that's what i don't get. He's expressing worries because... he would be affected. As I said, he doesn't need to be visibly shaken with heart-eyes and such. If he let go of Hancock and gave her time to execute another slave arrow or mero mero beam he would be petrified. Why wouldn't he express worries?

I don't understand the Hancock complaint...? Teach wasn't hit by Hancock's attack because... he wasn't. It's not only by looking at her, she needs to actually execute an action, which can be avoided. And you don't need to have heart eyes or whatever to be affected by it, Teach would have been if not for circumstances.

@theackwardstation That's wildly off. Those numbers are from the entire OP series (all the 103 volumes). Volume 103 itself sold 1,793,237 copies.

That, however, is still considerably more than all the last recent volumes (volume 100 excepted, that one got close). The last volume that sold more was 93. The Film Red popularity + the final arc announcement (mainly the first thing) did wonders for OP popularity, with earlier volumes also selling much more than usual. We can't say if that will last, though. My opinion is that it isn't, but stabilizing OP sales for a few volumes is already going to be a great result.

I did like pretty much every strawhat fight besides whatever the fuck Nami got (and even then, Ulti is great! The character didn't disappoint, at least). Sanji coreography was kinda meh, though, but the character writing there did make up for it a lot. Idk, they really don't feel substantially different than an average strawhat fight. Not Oda's peak nor Oda's low, right there at the middle (again, not counting Nami or Usopp).

@electricmastro:

It matters because to disregard Zoro and Usopp's pasts just because there were over 1,000 chapters ago and not the same as pasts like Nami's pasts might be setting the bar a little too high, with all due respect.

If you really don't think Oda's standards for how to construct a crewmate flashback changed over the years we'll have to agree to disagree. If people got Zoro and Usopp-level backstories for a new member, they would be rightfully disappointed. Yamato is still above that, of course, but I still think it's disappointing compared to all of the others and I really didn't think that would be controversial if he is to become a crewmate.

I don't know dude, sometimes this thread feels like a battleground where you have to pick a side and disregard and dismiss any points made by the "other team". It just gets tiring.

@electricmastro:

I guess Shanks losing his arm and Nami’s flashback are weak then since those were also 1,000 chapters ago and things have changed since then too.

I… don't really get what you're trying to accomplish with the sarcastic tone, dude. Why does it matter for what I said that Shanks scene (not even a flashback) and Nami's past were great??

Personally, I think Yamato started very strong, with a memorable introduction and being constantly present in the story for many and many chapters. However, the fact is that the character ended up doing way less than I expected during the arc after those few moments.

Lack of strawhat interaction has to be intentional at this point so I won't judge that, since Oda might want to do something with it, but Yamato really didn't have so many interesting things to do during the arc (the bombs subplot is kind of whatever), the flashback was kinda weak for strawhat standards (and sure, you might point out Zoro or Usopp, but those are literally a thousand chapters ago. Oda way of doing things changed.) and the interactions with Luffy were disemphasized.

None of those are dealbreakers, since in my view the arguments in favor are still strong, in particular the fact that a desire for freedom and travel the world is… pretty much something Oda never denies his characters, and there's no real build-up for any other option that accomplishes that beside Strawhat. But I do think the case has been weakened since his introduction.

But we're getting close, and for better or worse Yamato self-invitation is an open plot-point that needs to be resolved. That's actually something that puts him ahead of many other potential crewmates, since Oda will actually have to address it. Soon this debate will be over, lol, and a side will be wrong.

@Monquito:

A quick visit to Graveyard Isand is guaranteed in my headcannon.

Elbaf could be hiding the missing RP, or just be appointed by the log pose, and for the first time in the NW, actually use the damn thing.

They did use the Log Pose a few times. Just not to… you know, decide on a destination. That would be nice to see, but I think (pun not intended) that ship has sailed.