Vegapunk said the same thing that physicist said.
The very same thing as that physicist!
Vegapunk said the same thing that physicist said.
The very same thing as that physicist!
I think, regardless of wins or losses here, the bigger issue is that circumstances really need to get bad enough to force the strawhats to flee against their usual will. I can't imagine the strawhats getting an unquestionable win and just sailing off of egghead with their heads held high like a boss crew with nothing left to stop them. Oda's built up a show of force that's too big to let the strawhats get the big win here. It's too early in the final arc for that. York should be stopped, we should see the Seraphim stopped but not destroyed, and maybe we can have Kizaru take a beating if he hops over ahead of the fleet, but after all that, they really need to flee rather than face the fleet and Saturn. It'd be a horrible start to the final saga to have that much of a win happen.
Straw Hats easily defeating Seraphim + Saturn + Kizaru + all of Kizaru’s back-up ships in less than one hour would prob do more to make the final bosses of this series look more underwhelming and make Emperor Luffy’s fights look worse because of how boring they’d become.
Yeah, I don’t think Saul being alive ruins Robin’s story, like how some say Pell ruined Vivi’s story. Clover was pretty much Robin’s “Shanks figure” that she bonded with enough to realize a common interest/dream and be her catalyst to sail after they died and tried carrying on their will. Saul’s fate, although also meaningful, doesn’t really change that either way.
@StrawHatJedi said in [Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World)]
I don't have any doubt that over the past few weeks in story the Straw Hats have connected with Yamato, but the question is why Oda didn't show us more of these scenes. It just strikes me as an odd choice in storytelling if, at least right now, that was meant to be Yamato's primary bond.
What I've really been trying to say is that 'being like Oden' is a thin motivation for Yamato sailing with the Straw Hats. I said this in 1050 / 1051 when Momo decided to close the borders, that maybe Yamato's way of building on Oden's legacy by sailing with the crew would mean searching for the answers about opening the borders. But then, Oda chose not to include her in the scenes where Pluton and the borders were discussed.
That might be what is is all about: that Momo is meant to be the one to give Yamato purpose for leaving that isn't just sailing out to be free. If Oden could never give it to her, then Momo would, because he's the shogun now and is interested in knowing some things Yamato surely also wants to know about, which may be why Oda had Yamato talk about the journal info and had a bond with Momo to begin with.
I think that would make the most sense, since Yamato's dream to sail out and see the world is pretty nebulous compared to having a dream to open Wano's borders and accomplish Oden's overall purpose for Wano in relation to Joy Boy.
Is it just me, or has Oda been leaning hard on the fanservice lately? Black Maria fighting topless, Robin's ultimate move coming out naked despite her other full body clones having clothes, the post-battle bathhouse scene, Bonney wringing out her shirt, and now her, Robin and Nami all set up to spend the coming arc casually pantsless. The ass-emphasising camera angle in Bonney's last panel this chapter also stands out. Oda's never skimped on drawing female characters in a way that appeals to him and playing with suggestive outfits. We've had one-off bath scenes in a couple of past arcs too. But I can't recall him using this much nudity over so many characters in such a short amount of time. I don't want to sound like some horrible puritan who thinks artists shouldn't draw things they're attracted to just to enjoy looking at them, or that they shouldn't write societies with looser nudity taboos than the real world, or that readers can't enjoy it when they do or anything dumb like that - all those things can work or fall flat based on execution and consistency of tone - I'm just making an observation that things seem a little hornier around here than they used to be.
I suspect it’s partially resulted from his way of dealing with not drawing Yamato as of now while we wait for Momo become her catalyst to sail and fully realize her greater purpose. Yamato is prob the most expressively beautiful female character he ever drew, so I’d understand why he’d miss drawing her. lol
Really awesome to know you spend two years struggling against the idea of Yamato joining and ending up winning the argument. That takes a lot of gusto to maintain. I'm not sure I could have done the same.
Not that I think anything of value was really won here, but I'm curious. How many people were struggling against the idea of Jinbe joining after the repeatedly left Luffy to go and do other things anyway?
I don't think Saul being alive ruins Robin's story, still not sure if I like it, though. Depends how his story goes I guess, if he is the man with the burn scar that's already intriguing.
I'm also a little biased regarding his survival cause I really disliked the theory about him being alive cause it was mainly based on something that's just not true. ("Ice Time Capsule" is the attack Kuzan uses to immobilize Saul (chapter 397, p 13), the attack he uses to 'kill' him is "Ice Time" (page 15). He uses that attack vs Luffy for example. Of course Luffy survived it as well, and the Island being literally on fire makes it entirely possible that the ice melted and he survived. But I don't like that the Ice Time Capsule people turned out to be right about his survival.
Other than that, 10/10 chapter.
I suppose issue could be taken with the idea of “Well if Saul could survive, then why not Olvia and Clover? Why couldn’t Saul just pick them up and run out of there?” But I guess that will be answered too.
Vivi or no one. I'm not even sure though when Vivi will come back into the story again, so that's a bummer. Maybe the next arc.
Ay, seeing as how Bonney is a first person witness, it would prob be inevitable that she tells her side as to what happened and could even clue into what happened to Vivi too. Would be rather surprising if Bonney didn’t know anything at all.
Such a shame that Elbuff of all places needs a yonko protection
They shouldn't !!
Oda Fucked all its hype with this dumb reveal.
events in Egghead is more interesting than spike head dummy
one thing that makes zero sense is why would the government spy who informed on Vegapunk would trap and imprison cipher pol agents who are supposed to be on his side ? only a rebel would do that! but a rebel wouldn't inform the five elders about punk trespassing a prohibited matter so what the fuck is going on ?
also oda dropped many hints that the culprit is a vegapunk clone and 90% of readers bought that but not me
because that would make vegapunk the dumbest scientist without a question like how could you make something that suppose to serve you to kill you ? we're talking about a serious humongous mistake that simply doesn't fit punk's reputation as the most genius.
I recall that Elbaf was described at Whole Cake as one of the strongest countries, and that was besides Kaido's territory of Wano at the time.
I still think Kuma is getting a new body
Even a new body wouldn’t change how his mind has become weakened. I really think they’d have to be much more than that to fully solve Kuma’s situation.
I still think Bonney's crew status entirely depends on Kuma's outcome. If he dies then I would give it a 90% because she has nowhere to really go after that (unless the Revos show up and she wants to go their way for some reason). If Kuma lives then she has a 0% chance because she'll always pick her father over anyone else, even Nika.
I think Bonney is being set-up to help people like how Kuma and Nika did.
I suppose she could go either way as to whether she feels she could accomplish any newfound goals there with either Luffy or Dragon.
Wait were this many people really expecting Smoker to join?
It’s not going to happen…. But it would give us our Logia user
I’m not even sure what his overall goals are, let alone what purposes he’d accomplish by joining the crew. lol
Caribou has big "I get knocked out by Luffy before the fights start" energy going right now. We'll see if things change going forward.
Seeing that Bonney is more than likely sticking around for a while, I'm wondering if she will create an Elbaf-inspired form during that arc. That would be something more interesting than "Nika at home."
Would make sense if she's wanting to better understand the Sun God in light of Dorry and Brogy acknowledging it.
The big question is will Caribou count as a main member of the Black Beard Pirates
I think he’ll be the equivalent of Rockstar from Shanks crew, (who’s shown alongside the commanders a lot) and since they’ll both be parallels to each other there’s a possibility that the Straw Hats will have one to
I’m still set on Caribou vs Rockstar when the Black Beard Pirates face off against the Red Hair Pirates
I don’t know who the straw hat member that will join will be who’ll be facing off against Caribou or if we have even met them yet
If SH vs. BB is 12 vs. 12, it might make sense.
Finding out about Zoro’s ancestors wouldn’t have done anything for his character. It could maybe be an arc for the citizens of Wano, about changing their relationship with the outside world, seeing how leaving could be a good thing, since Zoro was a mix of Wano culture and world knowledge, helping the land of his ancestors
Seeing as how Wano was pretty much Momo's arc, it makes sense why Oda didn't go further in talking about Zoro's family. He only talked about people like Ushimaru since he was Oden's friend who died dying to fight for his honor and thus goes back to Momo as more motivation for why he should fight back.
I guess we're out of the phase of Oda answering Wano questions at this point, unless he really feels like answering the odd one from a previous arc.
I just wonder how many letters he ended up reading or skipping for SBS that were complaint-related. lol