Lately I've been finding it more difficult having discussions in One Piece because of being met with replies like "Oh that can't happen, because there's no time left for that in this final saga endgame!" Ya know, things like exploring the character of Rocks, Luffy's 10th person, or having a satisfying exploration of Elbaf. So I'll just ask upfront here. How many chapters and time would you think is left? And what would some things you'd have in mind Oda would still be willing to give decent focus on regardless of the current circumstances?
How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?
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Leaving Wano I might have said the series would be done around its 30th anniversary, but Egghead is going pretty slow so now I'm not so sure. Taking breaks into account, four or five years isn't as many chapters as it used to be.
That said, Rocks and Elbaf have to get their moments in focus. They've been too strongly set up not to be explored at least a little. "We don't have time for that" is more for things like the underworld bosses from the wedding party, or the other escapees from Impel Down, to spitball two examples of things I've seen people say need to have their own arc.
But a lot of things can happen at once in this series. Egghead is giving us Vegapunk, all this Reverie stuff and ancient history as well as showing the Revolutionaries in action and promising Devil Fruit lore, not even counting half the other cutaways. So lots of "we don't have time for that" things can happen in small form in the middle of a larger, more important arc. Like, Gin's inevitable return probably won't be its own whole thing but you can fit it into almost any arc that needs a bit of drama and nostalgia.
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@Captain-M said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
Leaving Wano I might have said the series would be done around its 30th anniversary, but Egghead is going pretty slow so now I'm not so sure. Taking breaks into account, four or five years isn't as many chapters as it used to be.
That said, Rocks and Elbaf have to get their moments in focus. They've been too strongly set up not to be explored at least a little. "We don't have time for that" is more for things like the underworld bosses from the wedding party, or the other escapees from Impel Down, to spitball two examples of things I've seen people say need to have their own arc.
But a lot of things can happen at once in this series. Egghead is giving us Vegapunk, all this Reverie stuff and ancient history as well as showing the Revolutionaries in action and promising Devil Fruit lore, not even counting half the other cutaways. So lots of "we don't have time for that" things can happen in small form in the middle of a larger, more important arc. Like, Gin's inevitable return probably won't be its own whole thing but you can fit it into almost any arc that needs a bit of drama and nostalgia.
Yeah, Oda has even cutaway from Egghead to focus on all sorts of other things instead of having Luffy and the others sail away from there by now. Considering the Void Century, Ancient Weapons, Final War, Joy Boy’s return for Wano, and multiple backstories Oda might want to cover, I could see this series lasting 5-10 years, maybe Chapter 1500-1800, as far as 2032.
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The way I see it we have at least 4 arcs left: Egghead, Elbaf, the journey to LT and the final war.
I can't see a world where the final arc is less than Onigashima in length and Elbaf will at least be TB or FI length given how many plot threads Oda has presented us with so far... that means 150+ chapters overall, with 35 chapters a year that alone will kill the 5 year timeline. Egghead is already 20+ chapters long and there is a good chance we are only halfway through given all the cutaways. Laugh Tale gotta be one volume at least so that combined is another 40-60 chapters. Given how Crossguild and BB stuff plays out there is an argument to be made for Hachinosu being another arc as well...Overall I'd say 1350 chapters is an optimistic estimate, I'd rather go with a 1400 estimate and that would mean we got roughly a decade left... and that's without additional breaks due to Oda's age, health, potential hiatus to prepare for the final arc in advance, etc.
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It might take until Oda is closing on to his 60s
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Some weeks I think there are 7 years left and some weeks I think that he might accomplish the 3 years that he declared in the Aoyama interview by cutting a lot of corners in a sloppy way (like with the Ohara flashback tying VP, Dragon and Elbaf altogether).
So trusting statistics and mathematical means, I guess that it's just really 5 years since last year's break before Wano's ending, and he will just feel inclined to end it around the 30th anniversary on July 2027.
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@Nidhoeggr said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
I can't see a world where the final arc is less than onigashima in length and Elbaf will at least be TB or FI length given how many plot threads Oda has presented us with so far... that means 150+ chapters overall, with 35 chapters a year that alone will kill the 5 year timeline. Egghead is already 20+ chapters long and there is a good chance we are only halfway through given all the cutaways.
Yeah, I really wouldn't think Oda would plan on the final war being shorter than Onigashima Raid given how he has characters like Im, Admirals, Blackbeard Pirates, and Red Hair Pirates to play around with.
@joekido-the-Second said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
It might take until Oda is closing on to his 60s
Yeah, I'll be considerate and claim that Oda won't be doing One Piece beyond being 60, given his usual approach of having less sleep in favor of putting out more manga. Unless One Piece turns into a monthly series and can take his time more, then I think it would be understandable enough to presume he won't be doing all this as is beyond his 50s.
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What does Oda still have to cover:
Void Century
Giant Straw Hat/Mariejoa secret
How FI will fall because of Luffy/ Noah
What is Pluton/Uranus
Why can BB eat 2 DFs/what is up with his body/why doesn´t he sleep
Luffy´s dream
What is the One Piece
God Valley
Shank´s talk with the gorousei
Tequila Wolf purpose
Who is Im-sama and his subordinates
How were lunarians killed
Who was drinking with Crocus
The egg on Roger´s ship
Crocodile´s secret
Rocky Port Incident
Emerald City
Visit Elbaf / Loki
Unicorn/loadstar
Weevil´backstory
Rock´s backstory
Deal with Kuma´s past
Joy Boy story
Zunisha´s backstory
the D.Clan and what it means
Name of the lost kingdom
All-Blue
What destroyed Lulusia
Grand fleet incident
Logia awakening
Where is Laugh Tale
Voice of all things
Why did the robot on egghead climb the red line
Adam and Eve tree
Rioponeglyph
Black Swords
Role of Urouge
the man marked by flames/Last road poneglyphSo a lot of stuff that has to be adressed in one form or another.
My guess right now would be Egghead takes another 2-3 volumnes, after that Elbaf with maybe 5 volumnes, Loadstar and other open story parts might take 3 volumnes. The final war including fights against BB pirates and Imu/subordinates (4 volumnes alone those fights) might take 12 volumnes.
1-2 volumne for what happens after all is done and fulfilling SH crew dreams to end it all.
So 20-25 more volumnes overall would leave the series with around 1300-1350 chapters in the end.
So it going for another 5-6 years, maybe Oda combining a lot of things could bring it to 4-5 years, but can´t picture Oda not setting up the conclusions of the story properly, which takes time with his vast character line up. -
@Don-Quichotte-De-Flamingo said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
What does Oda still have to cover:
Void Century
Giant Straw Hat/Mariejoa secret
How FI will fall because of Luffy/ Noah
What is Pluton/Uranus
Why can BB eat 2 DFs/what is up with his body/why doesn´t he sleep
Luffy´s dream
What is the One Piece
God Valley
Shank´s talk with the gorousei
Tequila Wolf purpose
Who is Im-sama and his subordinates
How were lunarians killed
Who was drinking with Crocus
The egg on Roger´s ship
Crocodile´s secret
Rocky Port Incident
Emerald City
Visit Elbaf / Loki
Unicorn/loadstar
Weevil´backstory
Rock´s backstory
Deal with Kuma´s past
Joy Boy story
Zunisha´s backstory
the D.Clan and what it means
Name of the lost kingdom
All-Blue
What destroyed Lulusia
Grand fleet incident
Logia awakening
Where is Laugh Tale
Voice of all things
Why did the robot on egghead climb the red line
Adam and Eve tree
Rioponeglyph
Black Swords
Role of Urouge
the man marked by flames/Last road poneglyphSo a lot of stuff that has to be adressed in one form or another.
My guess right now would be Egghead takes another 2-3 volumnes, after that Elbaf with maybe 5 volumnes, Loadstar and other open story parts might take 3 volumnes. The final war including fights against BB pirates and Imu/subordinates (4 volumnes alone those fights) might take 12 volumnes.
1-2 volumne for what happens after all is done and fulfilling SH crew dreams to end it all.
So 20-25 more volumnes overall would leave the series with around 1300-1350 chapters in the end.
So it going for another 5-6 years, maybe Oda combining a lot of things could bring it to 4-5 years, but can´t picture Oda not setting up the conclusions of the story properly, which takes time with his vast character line up.Nice list. When do you suppose the next cover stories could start?
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Translation of what electricmastro really means: “One Piece can’t end soon because I want Yamato to join the crew!”
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I believe One Piece will end somewhere in between chapters 1250 and 1450.
My best guess is: 7 years from now, somewhere on calendar year 2030 (with a number of rushed plot lines).
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The coverpages normally depict a scene with each SH, so still 7 to come after Luffy,Frany and Chopper already had one...having a random character in between each SH cover might suggest 14 more non coverstory covers incoming.
Add to that 1-2 more colorspreads it might be time for a new one in chapter 1101 or 1102. -
@Don-Quichotte-De-Flamingo said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
The coverpages normally depict a scene with each SH, so still 7 to come after Luffy,Frany and Chopper already had one...having a random character in between each SH cover might suggest 14 more non coverstory covers incoming.
Add to that 1-2 more colorspreads it might be time for a new one in chapter 1101 or 1102.Yeah, it was suggested to me Chapter 1100 might come in October, which would be 14 months after Wano ended. I think that would give enough time to pass for us to check in how Wano is doing after the main arc ended.
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I think it's ending more or less around chapters 1250-1300. It's around 5 years of content.
People say "Oh that can't happen, because there's no time left for that in this final saga endgame!" because Oda usually spents a lot of time and effort whenever he introduces new characters/plot points, and thus it's unlikely for him to introduce a lot of new elements from here on forward, unless he wants to keep doing One Piece for the next decade or more. He can't fight against age, thought. At some point the story will require him to stop introducing new elements and tie up the dozens of plot points he left dangling for the past two decades.
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@Deicide said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
I think it's ending more or less around chapters 1250-1300. It's around 5 years of content.
People say "Oh that can't happen, because there's no time left for that in this final saga endgame!" because Oda usually spents a lot of time and effort whenever he introduces new characters/plot points, and thus it's unlikely for him to introduce a lot of new elements from here on forward, unless he wants to keep doing One Piece for the next decade or more. He can't fight against age, thought. At some point the story will require him to stop introducing new elements and tie up the dozens of plot points he left dangling for the past two decades.
It would def help for people to take a good look at what he's doing now as opposed to just assuming what he will or won't do in the future based on worries and doubts. Even now, he's introducing silhouettes for things like God's Knights and mysteries like a burn scarred man. I suppose it can be easy to assume Oda is wanting to rush through things, but given how he's willing to do stuff like this now as opposed to answering what things like the Will of D., Void Century, etc. are right now, then I think that perspective is still worth considering.
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Its gonna be really hard to judge anything until we see how long Elbaf is. If Oda really truly wants to be done in short order, Elbaf can absolutely be a short Amazon Lily or Fishman Island length adventure, 10-30 chapters. If he can restrain himself and get that done in a year, it might, just might be done by the 30th anniversary five years from now.
(But if that means 2027, July 2027, or up through July 2028 is up to interpretation on what you want to count as "the anniversary year")
But if Elbaf sprawls out into a 2 year big arc, then we're not wrapping up any time soon and probably have 7-8 years left even still. Oda's checking a lot of boxes with this Vegapunk arc though since he's jumping around the world instead of staying focused on the crew.
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Oda taking monthly breaks will definitely guarantee he finishes this slowly, but shortly.
He doesn't have enough health to keep going for another decade. I give it 5 years at most starting now. 200 chapters more or less, leaning to the latter
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@King-Cannon said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
Oda taking monthly breaks will definitely guarantee he finishes this slowly, but shortly.
He doesn't have enough health to keep going for another decade. I give it 5 years at most starting now. 200 chapters more or less, leaning to the latter
If Oda very much needs to do One Piece once a month, I'll accept that.
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We've had 33 chapters between the end of the last hiatus and the one about to start. Assuming that's consistent going forward, five more years of One Piece is 165 chapters. Could be tight, depending on how long Egghead takes to wrap up and what the plan is with Elbaf and any other location Oda needs to check off the list before the finale, but not impossible.
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The manga will end on chapter 1200
The story will be rushed imo cuz oda is getting older and his health is declining
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I'm still thinking 2027 is the goal, maybe early 2028 given the new longer breaks
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Gut feeling is five years if Elbaf is short enough or combined with the final arc. Oda could go longer, but I can see him cut enough corners to keep it down.
Either way I'm confident we won't have more than two major arcs. Nearly everything left feels like it'll fit into the final arc or it's stuff we can skip and have explained in a post-series interview. Elbaf is the exception with how much it's been built up, and even then I can see it used as a stepping stone - or even the setting - for the finale.
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I think all thats left is going into a blender
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I think it'll end in 2.5-3 years.
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@Captain-M said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
depending on how long Egghead takes to wrap up and
If he’s efficient, Oda could wrap Egghead up before the year’s end.
- 2 chapters finishing up the bout with the Seraphim
- 1 chapter of Kuma flashback
- dealing with the navy’s arrival and clash with the marines including things like Luffy vs. Borsalino (that can be spread over 4 chapters)
- a Saturn lore-centric chapter (1)
- Saturn fight (5 more chapters).
13 chapters, so there's leftover for other navy fight stuff, lore drops, flashbacks, and what Oda wants to do with the Blackbeard pirates at this Egghead. Seems doable to me.
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I think we have more in the ballpark of 10 years remaining rather than 5.
The cutaways from Egghead are covering a lot, but we've still probably got 20 - 30+ chapters of action once we return to the main story before the crew sets sail. Sure, Elbaf could be a short arc... but does anyone really want that, Oda included? Elbaf is bound to be as deeply connected to the deep mysteries in the series as is Wano and has been built up for even longer. Vikings are Oda's favorite type of Pirate and the land of Elbaf is said to be the mightiest nation in the One Piece world. It would be incredibly disappointing if Elbaf isn't a huge story arc. Maybe not the size of Dressrosa or Wano, but at least closer to Whole Cake Island than Zou or Sabaody.
In any case, all these cutaways are still just setting up things that will directly involve the Straw Hats later. Oda doesn't need to cover everything, but given all that needs to be addressed, I can't help but think we've got about 300 - 400 chapters total remaining.
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@StrawHatJedi said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
I think we have more in the ballpark of 10 years remaining rather than 5.
The cutaways from Egghead are covering a lot, but we've still probably got 20 - 30+ chapters of action once we return to the main story before the crew sets sail. Sure, Elbaf could be a short arc... but does anyone really want that, Oda included? Elbaf is bound to be as deeply connected to the deep mysteries in the series as is Wano and has been built up for even longer. Vikings are Oda's favorite type of Pirate and the land of Elbaf is said to be the mightiest nation in the One Piece world. It would be incredibly disappointing if Elbaf isn't a huge story arc. Maybe not the size of Dressrosa or Wano, but at least closer to Whole Cake Island than Zou or Sabaody.
In any case, all these cutaways are still just setting up things that will directly involve the Straw Hats later. Oda doesn't need to cover everything, but given all that needs to be addressed, I can't help but think we've got about 300 - 400 chapters total remaining.
Yeah, until Oda puts Luffy and the others on Laugh Tale within the next 50 chapters, then I'm not inclined to think he's rushing everything. Worst comes to worse, he could always resort to doing One Piece once a month or maybe even have more assistants draw the majority of the art in case his health gets that bad.
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@Don-Quichotte-De-Flamingo said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
What does Oda still have to cover:
Void Century
Giant Straw Hat/Mariejoa secret
How FI will fall because of Luffy/ Noah
What is Pluton/Uranus
Why can BB eat 2 DFs/what is up with his body/why doesn´t he sleep
Luffy´s dream
What is the One Piece
God Valley
Shank´s talk with the gorousei
Tequila Wolf purpose
Who is Im-sama and his subordinates
How were lunarians killed
Who was drinking with Crocus
The egg on Roger´s ship
Crocodile´s secret
Rocky Port Incident
Emerald City
Visit Elbaf / Loki
Unicorn/loadstar
Weevil´backstory
Rock´s backstory
Deal with Kuma´s past
Joy Boy story
Zunisha´s backstory
the D.Clan and what it means
Name of the lost kingdom
All-Blue
What destroyed Lulusia
Grand fleet incident
Logia awakening
Where is Laugh Tale
Voice of all things
Why did the robot on egghead climb the red line
Adam and Eve tree
Rioponeglyph
Black Swords
Role of Urouge
the man marked by flames/Last road poneglyphSo a lot of stuff that has to be adressed in one form or another.
My guess right now would be Egghead takes another 2-3 volumnes, after that Elbaf with maybe 5 volumnes, Loadstar and other open story parts might take 3 volumnes. The final war including fights against BB pirates and Imu/subordinates (4 volumnes alone those fights) might take 12 volumnes.
1-2 volumne for what happens after all is done and fulfilling SH crew dreams to end it all.
So 20-25 more volumnes overall would leave the series with around 1300-1350 chapters in the end.
So it going for another 5-6 years, maybe Oda combining a lot of things could bring it to 4-5 years, but can´t picture Oda not setting up the conclusions of the story properly, which takes time with his vast character line up.My guess of how Oda is leading the story is Egghead being the prologue and prep time to the final war which will set from Elbaf and lead to Lodestar, then Laugh Tale and One Piece. And most of what you addressed is probably going to be covered by the Ultimate Flashback.
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Oda is getting tired and would like to wrap things up... however, he's a very stoic worker and (I believe) he loves One Piece and (also) his work, so I honeslty doubt he would "skip" or "cut" parts of the story in order to finish quicker. This will probably be his only big manga, I think he wants to give it a proper treatment until the end without regrets. So, as for when will it end I can see at least 5-6 years minimum. I also don't understand the reason why he should finish for the "30th" anniversary as if it's something more special than finishing it at 33 or 38... I mean, every anniversay of OP is special, so even he finishes at the "36th" it's gonna be a huge celebration anyway
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I am hoping 4 years, but Elbaf alone will propably take 2, so 6-7 years.
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The main thing Luffy needs to do is find the mysterious Burnt Man and his Black Ship, which supposedly contains the missing 4th Road Poneglyph, which was taken from Fishman Island. Now, I do not believe he knows about this yet, but perhaps Vegapunk does, and once they escape Egghead, maybe could point him in the right direction.
Of course, provided Egghead goes well for our heroes, they still have to drop Vegapunk off somewhere. I believe that it will be Elbaf, due to his familiarity with Saul, who naturally Robin would love to reunite with, and Usopp's dream is to go there, so even more of a reason to go there.
That said, I think Saul is a red herring for said Burnt Man, but maybe they can get a lead from whatever happens there? Because if Luffy and crew can get that rubbing, then all they have to do is combine the maps and find Laugh Tale at long last!
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
The main thing Luffy needs to do is find the mysterious Burnt Man and his Black Ship, which supposedly contains the missing 4th Road Poneglyph, which was taken from Fishman Island. Now, I do not believe he knows about this yet, but perhaps Vegapunk does, and once they escape Egghead, maybe could point him in the right direction.
Of course, provided Egghead goes well for our heroes, they still have to drop Vegapunk off somewhere. I believe that it will be Elbaf, due to his familiarity with Saul, who naturally Robin would love to reunite with, and Usopp's dream is to go there, so even more of a reason to go there.
That said, I think Saul is a red herring for said Burnt Man, but maybe they can get a lead from whatever happens there? Because if Luffy and crew can get that rubbing, then all they have to do is combine the maps and find Laugh Tale at long last!
I don't recall Saul having a black ship and being able to create whirlpools to anyone who approaches him, unless something changed.
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@electricmastro Remember that Kidd was the first one to bring up this character. So, when we learned that Saul survived and Kidd was going to Elbaf, it seemed he was the character...until that flashback with the Blackbeards then told us about the black ship and whirlpools.
So, just like communism, Saul was a red herring.
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
@electricmastro Remember that Kidd was the first one to bring up this character. So, when we learned that Saul survived and Kidd was going to Elbaf, it seemed he was the character...until that flashback with the Blackbeards then told us about the black ship and whirlpools.
So, just like communism, Saul was a red herring.
Well, in any case, I'm up for the guy being a new character entirely and learn more about him,
unless it's too late for Oda to flesh the character out of course.
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So after the developments that have happened in the last few months, where do you guys stand on the situation of remaining time?
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I think Egghead will be finished relatively soon and Elbaf will follow and end sooner than most people will want. If I had to take a guess at what's next, think it will be the final throne wars that leads and ends with the One Piece being found. How I've read Oda's recent statements and how he's writing is that he wants to finish in around 3 years, but I don't think that's possible given that he's just not putting out that many chapters per year. I think he can pull it off in 4 or 5 if a lot of what's left is pinballed like the off-Egghead stuff has been, but more focused on a singular goal. My read is that his intention is to do that sort of epic pinball, but I could certainly be off about all of this.
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@andre said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
I think Egghead will be finished relatively soon and Elbaf will follow and end sooner than most people will want. If I had to take a guess at what's next, think it will be the final throne wars that leads and ends with the One Piece being found. How I've read Oda's recent statements and how he's writing is that he wants to finish in around 3 years, but I don't think that's possible given that he's just not putting out that many chapters per year. I think he can pull it off in 4 or 5 if a lot of what's left is pinballed like the off-Egghead stuff has been, but more focused on a singular goal. My read is that his intention is to do that sort of epic pinball, but I could certainly be off about all of this.
I recall Oda mentioned that One Piece won’t end anytime soon even with the final saga talk.
I imagine the next island or so would be relevant to Vegapunk and Bonney, considering what’s been going on with them in this last year. Bonney may be sticking around for quite a bit in particular, because of her Nika connection.
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5 years. He will speed up stuff here and there (as you can already tell from Egghead) but then because he will be adamant on having literally everyone in the final arc and his own tendency to go on tangents and write more subplots than necessary, we will almost certainly get those kind of chapters that will accumulate to at the very least half a year worth.
So really, I'll say 4-5 years as long as he doesn't take significantly more breaks. I can't see it going for more than 6 or 7. -
@zeltrax225 said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
5 years. He will speed up stuff here and there (as you can already tell from Egghead) but then because he will be adamant on having literally everyone in the final arc and his own tendency to go on tangents and write more subplots than necessary, we will almost certainly get those kind of chapters that will accumulate to at the very least half a year worth.
So really, I'll say 4-5 years as long as he doesn't take significantly more breaks. I can't see it going for more than 6 or 7.I mean, we were introduced to Egghead last year and we’re still on it. Even then, Oda took the time to introduce more stuff like Vivi’s Will of D. and Bonney’s Nika, among other things. So I’d def agree on him writing more subplots at this point, to the extent that he’s not speeding through as much as one may think.
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@electricmastro said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
I recall Oda mentioned that One Piece won’t end anytime soon even with the final saga talk.
I think you're referencing his answer from SBS 97
D: A question for Odacchi!! Is it true that you will finish One Piece after five years? Even if it is true, such an official announcement is still hard for fans!! Lots of fans and friends I know were crying when they heard the sudden announcement! How do you intend to take responsibility?!! That's what I'd like to say, but what I think I really want is for Odacchi to finally take a long vacation. P.N. pari_bentham
O: Yes it is. Rather than finishing the whole series, It's that series will end, because the most exciting part of Luffy's adventure, being the story of "What is One Piece?", will come to its conclusion. Things are heating up in Wano Country right now, but if Luffy can set sail from here safely, there will be developments on a global scale, a thrilling story likes of which no one has even read before I'll draw the "Greatest War" in One Piece history. It will be exciting!! In other words, I made such a announcement so readers could be mentally prepared to understand that even a story as long as this one is properly heading towards its end. That said, for now just take your time and enjoy Wano while its hot. I'll be draw with all my strength!!
If you're referencing something else then disregard this but I think the point of this is to reassure that he's going to get to everything, not that he doesn't intend to end relatively soon.
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@andre said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
@electricmastro said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
I recall Oda mentioned that One Piece won’t end anytime soon even with the final saga talk.
I think you're referencing his answer from SBS 97
D: A question for Odacchi!! Is it true that you will finish One Piece after five years? Even if it is true, such an official announcement is still hard for fans!! Lots of fans and friends I know were crying when they heard the sudden announcement! How do you intend to take responsibility?!! That's what I'd like to say, but what I think I really want is for Odacchi to finally take a long vacation. P.N. pari_bentham
O: Yes it is. Rather than finishing the whole series, It's that series will end, because the most exciting part of Luffy's adventure, being the story of "What is One Piece?", will come to its conclusion. Things are heating up in Wano Country right now, but if Luffy can set sail from here safely, there will be developments on a global scale, a thrilling story likes of which no one has even read before I'll draw the "Greatest War" in One Piece history. It will be exciting!! In other words, I made such a announcement so readers could be mentally prepared to understand that even a story as long as this one is properly heading towards its end. That said, for now just take your time and enjoy Wano while its hot. I'll be draw with all my strength!!
If you're referencing something else then disregard this but I think the point of this is to reassure that he's going to get to everything, not that he doesn't intend to end relatively soon.
I'm referring to what he said for Jump Festa:
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Oda said four years ago "five years left" and while any of us that knew his habits and could count knew at the time that wasn't right... he realized the story has overtaken his estimates like it always has... so he's had to backpeddle and say "still shooting for the end but I'm not going to rush through in the next 10 months. Don't worry about it."
There's really not much point in making a guess until we see how long Elbaf is. I thought 1200 chapters for years, but cakeland and wano both went extra long, so 1300 seems about right now. At least five years, but less than ten.
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@electricmastro alot of said subplots can be resolved with god valley and void century which will likely be two major flashbacks that might take up a few months. Other than that, he hasn't gone out of the way to introduce anything new. Anything and everything Bonney has to do with Kuma-God Valley-Revolutionary-Celestial Dragons-Shanks so it aligns itself. Nika is void century and that is world government too.
The only wildcard here is Blackbeard and Buggy and while the former might have his own arc after the final war, it is equally likely for him to be dealt with in the very same saga. Buggy won't have a dressrosa/alasbasta style arc to him, so he will also be part of the final war in one way or another.There's also no antagonist waiting at Elbaf that will require the setup of Dressrosa-length approach and Egghead just got one of the Five Elders thrown in which is a very clear sign that this is the endgame now. The subplots here and ANY introduced henceforth are just like the subplots in Wano, they play a part to the main story and the main conflict but will never lead to anything after or have an entire arc on its own. At most we'll get another Zou-type arc which will probably be Elbaf and that's about it.
I'm at least confident of that and the chances of him going nope, I just want to do something else for now is extremely low.
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@zeltrax225 said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
@electricmastro alot of said subplots can be resolved with god valley and void century which will likely be two major flashbacks that might take up a few months. Other than that, he hasn't gone out of the way to introduce anything new. Anything and everything Bonney has to do with Kuma-God Valley-Revolutionary-Celestial Dragons-Shanks so it aligns itself. Nika is void century and that is world government too.
The only wildcard here is Blackbeard and Buggy and while the former might have his own arc after the final war, it is equally likely for him to be dealt with in the very same saga. Buggy won't have a dressrosa/alasbasta style arc to him, so he will also be part of the final war in one way or another.There's also no antagonist waiting at Elbaf that will require the setup of Dressrosa-length approach and Egghead just got one of the Five Elders thrown in which is a very clear sign that this is the endgame now. The subplots here and ANY introduced henceforth are just like the subplots in Wano, they play a part to the main story and the main conflict but will never lead to anything after or have an entire arc on its own. At most we'll get another Zou-type arc which will probably be Elbaf and that's about it.
I'm at least confident of that and the chances of him going nope, I just want to do something else for now is extremely low.
Interesting. How do you feel this will affect the next crewmate, aka Luffy's 10th person? Because I think we'd have to figure someone else will join given what's happening to various characters.
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@electricmastro said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
Interesting. How do you feel this will affect the next crewmate, aka Luffy's 10th person? Because I think we'd have to figure someone else will join given what's happening to various characters.
Unless he adds a viking, it's just Vivi or Yamato at this point. Vivi is getting lots of new story beats and a new mission, while Yamato is staying in Wano until it gets attacked to unleash its ancient weapon.
I think its entirely possible that after Wano, Oda just decided "juggling even one less main character permanently will cut a couple years off this thing" so this is all we're getting till the epilogue. At which point he can throw in Vivi, Yamato, Kinemon, Tama, Gaimon, whoever the hell he wants cause its just the epilogue and Luffy can have a crew of thirty and it won't matter.
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There's a lot of 'depends on' for this topic.
It depends on if we ever go back to a three on, one off schedule or if two on, one off is here to stay.
It depends on if future seasons of the live action, future anime movies and personal things like his surgery continue to add to Oda's time away from the manga every year on the same scale they have lately.
It depends on how much Egghead there is to go, if the final battle is now in swing or if there'll be a larger scale escape sequence after.
It depends on how much plot Elbaf brings.
It depends on whether the moon is a place to actually visit or something we'll only see in flashbacks.
It depends on how the final battle is set up and paced out, and if it happens in parallel with the race to Laugh Tale or before/after it.
Way too many unknowns to say for sure. I might say "sure, five years from now," but since I'm pretty sure I already said that a year ago; it's easy to see how even Oda loses track.
It will be very interesting to see what the man himself has to say on the topic at his annual Jump Festa estimate. Not because I expect accuracy, but because the guess should at least give us an idea of where he thinks he's at and how held back he feels like he's been by this year's breaks.
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Yeah, with that quote in mind I think Robby is right. It's a confirmation that his early guesses were way off and it's not ending kn q year, but I don't believe it necessarily means that he's not ending it soon, as in 4-5 years from now, assuming he can.
I've said this before, but I think it's interesting that he thought he could end it so soon. It really begs the question of how the final saga will develop imo.
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Gotta take into account that 2 chapters a month and 15 pagers might become the new normal. That's a lot less page real estate than even 3 x 17 pages a month.
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@andre said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
Yeah, with that quote in mind I think Robby is right. It's a confirmation that his early guesses were way off and it's not ending kn q year, but I don't believe it necessarily means that he's not ending it soon, as in 4-5 years from now, assuming he can.
I've said this before, but I think it's interesting that he thought he could end it so soon. It really begs the question of how the final saga will develop imo.
If people want to claim Oda will be ending things like in 100 chapters or whatever and purposefully gives less time to things like Will of D. or Void Century, then I think that indicates of personal distrust with Oda. If people such as that are inclined to distrust Oda to the extent that they’ll doubt on him following things through, despite his prior history proving that he has followed things through properly, then that’s prob more to do with their personal feelings than Oda’s abilities.
So basically, until more evidence surfaces of Oda failing to follow through with previously set-up plot lines, then I think I can believe for the time being that he is taking his time, regardless of the current circumstances.
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@Robby said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
@electricmastro said in How much time do you think is left before One Piece ends?:
Interesting. How do you feel this will affect the next crewmate, aka Luffy's 10th person? Because I think we'd have to figure someone else will join given what's happening to various characters.
Unless he adds a viking, it's just Vivi or Yamato at this point. Vivi is getting lots of new story beats and a new mission, while Yamato is staying in Wano until it gets attacked to unleash its ancient weapon.
I think its entirely possible that after Wano, Oda just decided "juggling even one less main character permanently will cut a couple years off this thing" so this is all we're getting till the epilogue. At which point he can throw in Vivi, Yamato, Kinemon, Tama, Gaimon, whoever the hell he wants cause its just the epilogue and Luffy can have a crew of thirty and it won't matter.
I’m not quite inclined to believe Oda is willing to juggle less characters considering how Egghead in this last month not only has had substantial focus on non-Straw Hat Egghead characters, but also characters outside of Egghead such as Koby and Kuzan.
And indeed, I’m also willing to believe Yamato and Vivi will be joining sooner rather than later, since Yamato’s dream is to open Wano’s borders and Vivi seems set-up to fulfill Lily’s Will of D. legacy, both concepts which have crucial info at Laugh Tale.
There’s also of course Bonney’s revelation with Nika, of which Luffy is connected to.