@Shin10-Bukuro The vivre cards started coming out in 2018. Theyy wouldn't leave a big open blank spot for literal YEARS, that would be a dead giveaway. Even Jinbe's open spot was a pretty obvious flag. And 5 years ago even Oda may not have been 100% sure.
They covered their bases by putting the boats in there. The ONLY boats in the entire set. They can always slot an extra member in there and then retcon some extra boats and random things later later with an expansion set, (weapons, islands, etc.) so the boats being numbered as such can then be 12 and 13 of a different category entirely and keep their numbering.
And a whole bunch of the cards have been reprinted and updated and retconned, particularly with "has haki" and "wano costume" variants. And Yamato's card for instance didn't showcase his zoan form, so that'll need an update.
The boats being placeholders is a fair idea (one I came up with myself as well), but I think the simplest answer is best, even if we don't want to hear it.
There's just so much to get to and not enough time...I would imagine that spots 11 and 12 are actually just going to remain the boats and not future crewmates at this stage in the game.
It's not the fun and sexy answer we want, but the truth is that the fun has to come to an end sometime.
Well I was half-joking, but honestly though, although I'd believe Vivi will travel with them for a time, I don't think Vivi would just push aside her kingdom now. She didn't do it back then, and I hesitate to think she'd push it aside now in light of her dad getting killed and Alabasta most likely being in chaos right now.
Imu seems to want her erased from history. If she goes to Alabasta, she could easily be found and killed by CP0/etc.
Her best chance of avoiding assassination at this point is rejoining with her Nakama.
@Deicide Oh you thought she was going to stay because she has to explore Wano before going out to sea? If not, you were right for the wrong reason and have no right to brag.
I disagree. Deicide is the champion of this thread. He took on everybody, stood his ground through thick and thin, and won.
That is NOT easy.
He deserves all the bragging rights.