It's just boring to see Shanks take care of the entire situation basically by himself in one move. At this point in the story, I would like to see Shanks’ crew do stuff. Why not have Yasopp show off his amazing sniper skills by taking out the rail gun, have Lucky Roux take out some fodder, show a scuffle between Beckman and Killer and then a few pages of Shanks fighting Kid before knocking him out? That would have been fun. Instead we just get a bunch of talking to make Shanks look as clean as possible before the splash page, which isn’t that interesting.
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RE: Chapter 1079: The Emperor's Crew, the Red-Haired Pirates
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RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
The problem with that is
a) if you look Big Bun (or Big Pan’s) weapons they resemble a hamburger bun, they even have screws that resemble sesame seeds. Not a frying pan or the like.
b) He talks about smashing them between his pan/bun. That doesn’t make much sense for a frying pan or a bread pan or any other type of kitchenware, but for a bun, absolutely. Especially when Hamburg and Pickles are also talking their weapons in food prep terms that are relevant to their names.
A visual Hamburger pun.Given that the two other two monsters are named after hamburger parts, it seems logical to accept that Oda meant for the guy to be a named after another part; ie the bread. If the wotan was talking about frying or the like, I'd be all for keeping it as Big Pan, but
It’s true that Oda doesn’t use the word for hamburger bun (バンズ), but instead the word パン, which does mean both bread (from Portuguese ) and pan (from English), so I can accept a double pun. But if you’re translating into English and have to choice between keeping the bread reference or the cookware one to make the joke, I’ll go with the former. Personal preference, sure, but it fits in context.
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RE: Chapter 1057: The End
There's quite a few issues with this chapter (from Yamato's quick change of mind to the awful "kurozumis are born to burn"), but man, Luffy's comments to Momo about him being all weak made me flinch. Maybe if Momo wasn't still mentally a little kid, I'd might feel different (Luffy lacks of care for social conventions that he would dare berate a king is one thing I like about him).
I don't know, maybe if Momo had more interesting interactions with the Strawhats beyond Luffy, I might feel more for their goodbye but alas.
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RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
As someone who's read a bit of Asterix, widely considered one of the best English translations, I should put out that translating or even changing names is not a bad thing if done well. And sometimes, it's even better. Changing the tone deaf bard from Assurancetourix (which is a play on a wide ranging insurance) into Cacofonix was brilliant and much funnier than the original.
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RE: Chapter 1082: Let's Go and Take It!
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1082: Let's Go and Take It!:
if you want a more awkward translation that I don't think uses the word 'charisma' properly in English but whatever
It doesn't; I think Stephen once explained that Japan adapted the word to mean someone famous mainly for their talents like a celebrity or an idol, you know a someone who has a lot of charisma. Celebrity would be the better word in this context but I remember reading Stephen's reasoning why he chose champion (in the context of Doflamingo) and thinking his logic was solid.
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RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
The problem I have with this thinking is that a good translation/localization should capture the spirit and feel of the work first and foremost. Oda might mix different languages from across the world for names and the like but at the end of the day, he mostly uses Japanese because that’s the language he knows and his audience knows. We shouldn’t take his use of it as this special thing like he does when using Spanish or German (I make an exception for English because of how widely used and borrowed from it is in modern Japan; it’s part of the school curriculum for crying out loud). If he uses a foreign word or name, it’s probably to make the world seem larger and more exotic by filling it with something that different to his readers’ eyes, ears, and mind. Or to confuse them, like with the
3D2Y thing.For a place like Wano (which is based on Tokugawa Japan), I agree that leaving the names untranslated is the right way to go about it (they place should feel like fedual Japan). But others are up for debate. If Oda gives a characters name that’s meant to be a joke, I don’t see why it shouldn’t be translated as such to the reader’s language. Let’s use Foxy’s Groggy monsters as an example; a lot of people get upset that the Viz translation calls the Wotan Big Bun instead of leaving it as Big Pan. But Big Bun fits with the whole joke of the Groggy monsters as being part of a Hamburger. Hamburg is a loan word without an already existing equivalent to refer to the meat, and Pickles is an English word that wouldn’t be unknown in Japan. Anything that keeps away a translators note is a good thing in my book. So names that Oda intends for us to laugh at should be translated. Same with most place names: I prefer Orange Town and Syrup Village over the Japanese ones, if for no other reason then it’s easier to read and spell.
The other problem is the lack of consistency; people stick with the name they see first that’s used constantly. The whole reason Haki stuck was because the fan translators (besides Stephen) didn't think “spirit” or “ambition” fit with Rayleigh’s action of knocking someone out in chapter 500* (I wish I could find those old translations because the Translators notes might help newer understand why leaving it as Haki was a problem; everyone these days seems to steal the Viz ones). Other examples include preferring Red-Hair pirates for Shanks crew but leaving Hancock’s as Kuja or have the Worst Gens called Supernovas but want Shichibukai to remain. Even names aren’t consistent, sure many people say leave Kuma as Kuma but these same people also support translating the names of the Usopp pirates. And the only reason I can explain any of it is that people just stick to what they’re used to.
- I actually might be misremembering this as well i.e. they did translate it at first but switched to just Haki later on.
And to go back to Kuma, my take is that he’s the only two of the original seven warlords whose animal name isn’t in English (not including the bat pun in Moria’s name). Now Jim Boy should be left as is; it’s tough to find a good English variant while keeping the animal part in for him (Whark, Whasha, Whashark, not feeling any of these). But Kuma, just call him Bear, it helps an English reader understand the connection.
Now, should all names be translated? Of course not. I don’t think Nami should be “Wave” or Sengoku should be “Warring States.” What names should be translated and which shouldn’t is a case-by-case basis. But I don’t agree with a hard line stance of keeping the names Oda choices for his characters the same, especially if there’s a joke involved. This is after all, a series about a goofy rubber pirate; Oda wants us to laugh.
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RE: Chapter 1084: The Attempted Murder of a Celestial Dragon
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1084: The Attempted Murder of a Celestial Dragon:
actual flower lilies in their secret room
Those flowers don't look anything like lilies, which have incredibly noticeable and exposed stigma and styles along with petals that curve backwards. The flowers we see in the "lost chamber" are far more cup shape, sort of like Canterbury Bells or Morning Glory. If they're meant to be lilies, than Oda's doing a really bad job here because he can't rely on color to carry the slack.
I don't think the flowers have any real meaning besides helping create a contrast between the peaceful and gentle innocence of the room and the darker, more violent tendencies of Imu.
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RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
As someone who only caught up with Wano during the break (making it the only arc I've dropped not once, but twice), I had both Izo and Ashura's deaths spoiled for me, but even then I got no reaction out of them.
I like the concept of Ashura's; the one Scabbard who gave up hope ends up being the one who sacrifices himself for the cause is a nice short character arc. But he's so unnoteworthy and ignored past the first act that it lacks the oomph needed. The fact that he died in an explosion (in a world where people survive worse) and that he was probably the least popular Scabbard leaves this nagging sense that Oda killed him because his death would cause the least backlash.
Izo... nothing was going to make that one work without a massive rewrite. The character is even less notable and more of a wet cabbage than Ashura was. I might as well cry for a box of cardboard.
They also feel like safe choices as well. Like if Oda really had guts, he should have killed off both Dogstorm and Catviper. That would have at least improved the ending of Carrot's story with it being their dying wish that she be put in charge of Zou. Speaking of which, Pedro is could be an example of a death having more impact given how he actually mattered in the Whole Cake storyline. Of course, there's still a chance he pops up in the Vinsmoke cover arc, so I'm not holding my breath. But as far as Wano goes, only Yasuie really worked for me.
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RE: Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World)
I ain't saying I think she's joining... but we can't say with 100 % certainty that going back to Arabasta is an option her. Depending on how things went down (with both her father's death and being of interest to Imu, though I'm pretty confident she doesn't view the WG as an ally anymore), it could be too dangerous for her or her people to go back home. For all we know, Luffy's protection might be her best option. Until we actually know where she is, it's just speculation.
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RE: Chapter 1122: Time is Right
Buggy has a reputation for being a coward (and he is) but given the fact he's the one who actually wants to aim for the top whilst Mihawak and Croc don't want to attract attention and prefer to work in the shadows, who's the real coward here?
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RE: Volume 109 Predictions/Discussion
I don't even know where to start with fixing SWORD as Koby and Kuzan describe it because it's so nonsensical.
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RE: Volume 109 Predictions/Discussion
@Daz said in Volume 109 Predictions/Discussion:
Once again I find CP0 as a concept tremendously dumb,
CP0 would be way more palatable if it was stated that they were a recent creation made during the timeskip; an indication of the WG’s more authoritarian bent. You could even take it a step further and specifically mention they’re the result of Luffy’s actions at the auction house.
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RE: Dragonball Discussion Kai: Broly but this time it's not Broly
Quick, someone go collect the dragon balls and wish him back alive
In all seriousness, even if I've found it harder to enjoy both Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball as I get older (there are some jokes that are... problematic), it's hard to deny the man's skill and certainly his influence (One Piece being the obvious example, though it's a shame Oda hasn't captured Toriyama's clarity even if he's set his sights higher than Toriyama ever considered). RIP.
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RE: World Politics: People, what a bunch of bastards
Pfffttt. Let's see what happens in a few months. Biden's talked a big game about this but Obama did similar things to Honduras' coup leaders and then he eased them up in order to gain Republican support for his bills (fat good that did him).
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RE: World Politics: People, what a bunch of bastards
Meanwhile, Guatemala's ruling party just declared the last election null and void in a coup.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/oas-condemns-attempted-coup-guatemala-2023-12-08/
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RE: World Politics: People, what a bunch of bastards
Oh for crying outloud.
Esequiba was claimed by the Spanish (because they did that with everything when the Pope split the world for them and Portugal) but if any of the European powers or their descendants* using their claims as a basis for borders (yes that includes Venezuela) has a claim to it, it’s the Dutch who had settlements on the coast up until the point the British got them as a result of the Napoleonic wars by setting up colonies as they usually do (i.e. taking from the Dutch), and later the area was filled by English settlers once gold was discovered. Venezuela has not once controlled or ruled over that territory since its independence, despite trying numerous times to get their claim supported internationally (including dragging to US under the grounds of the Monroe Doctrine and thus giving the US more reason to intervene in the region) and each time it goes nowhere because their claim is stupid. The 1966 "agreement" is useless because neither side could agree on what it exactly meant.
You are quoting Ben fucking Norton who has doxxed a rape survivor and then accused her of working for the CIA and COINTILPRO, accused activists of faking the death toll of the Mynammar Junta, is an anti-vaxxer, and has said plenty of horrendous things along with being a conspiracy theorist. He and the other (former or current) Grayzone grifters (he’s a god damn millionaire) should never ever be sourced for anything.
This is whole affair is saber rattling and has nothing to do with Exxon-Mobil (which makes deals with the Venezuelan government of its own and does not care who has control of the area) and instead on Maduro trying to rally support ahead of a election to siphon voters from the liberals and especially the right (who also support a territory takeover). He and the Venezuelans are not the victims here (beyond the adverse effects of cheap oil that's partly his fault because of his own country's inefficient industry), and he certainly won’t be if he actually goes through with an (unlikely) invasion and gets people killed and then becomes like the Argentinean Junta circa 1982.
*The reality of course is that the area should be given to the indigenous people which neither state represents and the oil should remain where it is because it's destroying the planet and any kind of oil-based organization is evil.
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RE: Chapter 1096: Kumachi
@wolfwood said in Chapter 1096: Kumachi:
Oh shit is that Bogard. It's been so long. A little bitter that when he finally shows up again it is to help out the human hunt, but whatever at least he has a non-zero chance of doing something.
I'd bet big money his appearance here is 100 % due to his role in the LA series.
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RE: Non-Disney animation thread
@Nobodyman said in Non-Disney animation thread:
Sealab 2021 - Adam Reed's first project. Had a modestly successful run and then he made Frisky Dingo, which no one watched cause no one knew what the hell it was. Then he made Archer and the rest is history.
This honestly explains quite a bit of why I never got into Archer.