Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead)

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@electricmastro Just the usual, find a mentor, declare a dream and something ridiculously sad happens in there past

I don't think that's the whole picture. There are various characters who have all that, and never even join Luffy, yet something about the nine people Luffy has gathered so far have been singled out in such a way that specifies them and resonates with Luffy and vice versa enough to become especially close. I think it has to do with how each of them not only have dramatic pasts, but how they end up propelling them forward, particularly with times that Luffy sees his would-be recruit in lower-spirits or in some general issue, and does something profound to lift them out of that.

So yeah, basically, it's not just have a tragic past, but how that past is used to interact and even bring characters closer together I feel.

danie

Luffy now covers the 2.9, right? But wouldn't he also now cover the 1.10 like Chopper? Makes me wish Chopper ends up covering the 5.6...(or 6.5 of course)

Any ideas?

Shin10 Bukuro

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

I'd have to figure there will be one more crewmate joining after Jinbe, after what Oda said about "Luffy's crew of ten."

The point I'm trying to get across with listing that option is people should at least consider the idea that the 10th Nakama can possibly be someone tagging along, essentially earning their "nakama-ship" before ever actually being officially specified as one.

In other words, the "unofficial nakama" can be paired up against a Blackbeard commander, and we the community can consider them to be the "de facto 10th nakama."

From a marketing and business perspective, it's difficult to try and designate another Nakama similarly to other characters whom have been around for decades, so I think it's at least possible the author takes a different route in annointing one considering the differing timeframes involved.

electricmastro

@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

From a marketing and business perspective, it's difficult to try and designate another Nakama similarly to other characters whom have been around for decades, so I think it's at least possible the author takes a different route in annointing one considering the differing timeframes involved.

I'd figure Oda would always do his best as to why exactly we should feel "Character #2" should be a Straw Hat all the way to the final island as opposed to "Character #1" where he feels it should be emphasized, like how he basically had Robin replace Vivi and that Enies Lobby was basically his answer as to why Luffy and Robin need each other much more than he does with Vivi, even though he's also friends with her.

Shiebs

Jewelry Bonney seems to be getting on well with the crew….. but then again so did Yamato

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Jewelry Bonney seems to be getting on well with the crew….. but then again so did Yamato

Interesting. Was a similar thing said when Jinbe kept leaving even after Luffy asked him to be on the crew?

ShinmenTakezo

@Shiebs Luffy called her Bonney...

Rooting for it, just so that my 10 year old prediction might come true

Zhenja

It has to be Bonney… who was the last person Luffy called them by their name that fast? Do we know the name of her fruit?

electricmastro

@Zhenja said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

It has to be Bonney… who was the last person Luffy called them by their name that fast? Do we know the name of her fruit?

Not that I recall, nope. Prob doesn't matter that much in particular, since I do recall Luffy ended up saying Katakuri's real name in less than a day.

danie

Another point in Bonney's favor is that Oda established beef between her and the Blackbeard Pirates, so if Kuzan isn't the tenth captain, Bonney could be part of the fight!

Shiebs

@ShinmenTakezo I’d be tots down with her joining, I’d love to have a badass and quirky female character on the team

electricmastro

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electricmastro

I suppose prob one of the biggest factors in more people rallying behind the idea of someone joining the crew is how uplifting the relationship between Luffy and the would-be crewmate is. One thing I notice with his would-be crewmates is that often they're feeling down or in low spirits, if not, at their lowest point, and Luffy then does something to bring their spirits up to a higher level.

That's prob one reason I figure why some people weren't rallying behind Yamato even though she wanted to join, because there really wasn't a moment between Luffy and Yamato where Luffy uplifted her from her lowest point, and anything we could point to as having been that was quickly pushed to the side because of the whole Kaido fight going on.

electricmastro

Pretty exciting

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Zik

It’s going to be interesting to see the reaction of anime only watchers who managed to stay spoiler free by the end of the Wano arc lol.

Even more so when the Vegapunk arc starts and we finally get filled in.

It was different for manga readers and especially us APforum posters who largely didn’t have the same community to discuss this given it was down for so long (can’t really say the discord made up for it either).

electricmastro

@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

It’s going to be interesting to see the reaction of anime only watchers who managed to stay spoiler free by the end of the Wano arc lol.

Even more so when the Vegapunk arc starts and we finally get filled in.

It was different for manga readers and especially us APforum posters who largely didn’t have the same community to discuss this given it was down for so long (can’t really say the discord made up for it either).

I figure quite a number of them too will just compare it to like Jinbe being on temporary leave and coming back at a better time, regardless of the final saga hype.

It was also just made known to me that Yamato is actually a samurai, which is a stark contrast to wanting to be a pirate in light of Yamato talking about wanting to join a crew of pirates. I understand that samurai usually answer up to leaders such as daimyos and shoguns, also in contrast to pirates answering up to captains, so if Yamato is Momo's samurai now, then it might turn out that Yamato will only leave Wano on Momo's terms as opposed to her own terms, possibly for a mission Momo would have for her for example.

As always, I'm interested to see what's ahead.

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@ShinmenTakezo I’d be tots down with her joining, I’d love to have a badass and quirky female character on the team

Ditto.

Nilitch

Shhh ! It's almost 2023 and Kaku is about to join the crew !

electricmastro

@Nilitch said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Shhh ! It's almost 2023 and Kaku is about to join the crew !

I don't see what grander purpose he'd have with the crew, so nah. lol

Cockycent

I hope he's with Lucci. He can properly warn him about best character Zoro as they approach.

Shiebs

Well Vegapunk has a dream of creating a sun, that’s something

I don’t think he’ll join but at least he has a dream

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Well Vegapunk has a dream of creating a sun, that’s something

I don’t think he’ll join but at least he has a dream

Not sure how that’s something he’d need to be with Luffy with in order to accomplish. I at least figure Yamato would embrace the dream of opening Wano’s borders to the extent of traveling with Luffy to find the answers for her, Wano, and Momo’s sake.

I do admit that Yamato seems more set-up on getting a good taste of reality the world may give her regarding the Oden identity at this point though.

Zik

Crazy how a post about Vegapunk was somehow changed to be about Yamato with no connection at all given he’s not present, mentioned or in the arc in any other way.

slash3584

yeah I don't understand the point of continuing with the whole Yamato thing, like sure I understand Wano's ending left a bunch of open doors, but I that could either be because theres more to it, or because it just sucked.

Theres a reason Oda had to take a break to actually plan stuff.

Kishido

Are we still about Yamato? Let her go. She will be back as ally at the final war with Momonsouke, Kinemon, Shirahoshi and all the others

Cockycent

Carrot might join the Straw Hats.

Kishido

@Cockycent

Yes that's why Zoro and Brook are staying on the ship. They are waiting for her to pop out finally

danie

Yeah, Carrot is inside Caribou... She will be escaping soon.

Cockycent

I briefly forgot Caribou existed.

It is interesting that Zoro is doing what some said Yamato would do. Reminds me of when I should have known better. Kaido was screaming in my face that his boy is not a SH. I was trying to be fair too. Oda having him dodge SH after SH. Barely being able to escape the weak character that is Momo. Scabbard moments with Shinobu.

At least Yamato got to say bye and state he wants to explore Wano or whatever he said. I gotta wait for a cover story to confirm the 2nd place emergency food's place in all of this.

danie

Yeah, too bad Zoro told Caribou to fuck off. He would have made a great addition to the crew.

electricmastro

@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Crazy how a post about Vegapunk was somehow changed to be about Yamato with no connection at all given he’s not present, mentioned or in the arc in any other way.

Is Chapter 1059 not part of the arc then?

Well, right then, in that case, I guess we can talk about how Bonney may join the Straw Hats now that her relationship with Kuma has been put to light. I suppose it will be like with Brook where he’ll be delivered to Laboon, so Bonney would be delivered in a similar way.

electricmastro

@slash3584 said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

yeah I don't understand the point of continuing with the whole Yamato thing, like sure I understand Wano's ending left a bunch of open doors, but I that could either be because theres more to it, or because it just sucked.

Theres a reason Oda had to take a break to actually plan stuff.

I mean, there’s no problem with bringing up whomever we feel like, no? I myself willing to listen to any suggestion, especially if there are cited examples and rhyme and reasoning to it. I’m sure others feel the same.

Cockycent

Zoro is a weirdo gatekeeper. Could have kept it to "you helped our captain, thanks". Instead, he had to add "get off now". One day, there will be a discussion about his manners. Just a nasty individual. Some fans think it's cute to be mean like that.

Caribou is an honored guest. He survived attacks from Drake and Pekoms. Let him enjoy some Sunny time.

Shiebs

Not trying to be a jerk but how long do we intend to wait for Carrot to come out of Caribou?

Ivotas

Still seeing Carrots and Yamatos names being brought up just proves that there is no point to start a new thread for a new arc when the old thread still could have been left open.

Cockycent

Didn't know there were others waiting for confirmation like myself.

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Not trying to be a jerk but how long do we intend to wait for Carrot to come out of Caribou?

Not sure why Oda would have Carrot miss out on hearing Luffy’s true dream and give a reaction to it in the event that he did that. I guess it was just that crucial she stayed behind to help Zou after all, in case someone invades Zou again for the Road Poneglyph.

Marcotty

I'm cool with being Team Caribou for now. I'm not even convinced Caribou will actually leave the Sunny to start sneaking around Egghead. The guy is terrified and knows the safest spot for him right now is the Sunny. Zoro's rejection feels more like bullying than a legitimate threat to get away, so he'll probably still be there for whatever drama is gonna crash into Zoro and Brook.

electricmastro

@Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Still seeing Carrots and Yamatos names being brought up just proves that there is no point to start a new thread for a new arc when the old thread still could have been left open.

Actually, Bonney seems to be given development faster than Carrot and Yamato already. Bonney already has purpose to sail to go back and meet with Kuma. Not sure if she’s go to Laugh Tale though.

electricmastro

@Marcotty said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

I'm cool with being Team Caribou for now. I'm not even convinced Caribou will actually leave the Sunny to start sneaking around Egghead. The guy is terrified and knows the safest spot for him right now is the Sunny. Zoro's rejection feels more like bullying than a legitimate threat to get away, so he'll probably still be there for whatever drama is gonna crash into Zoro and Brook.

Makes me wonder if Zoro and Brook will shift into official guard roles in addition to the roles they already have. The Sunny is known all over the world due to Franky’s wanted poster, so I guess they’ll have to get serious about it now, unless someone else takes it up.

Shiebs

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Not trying to be a jerk but how long do we intend to wait for Carrot to come out of Caribou?

Not sure why Oda would have Carrot miss out on hearing Luffy’s true dream and give a reaction to it in the event that he did that. I guess it was just that crucial she stayed behind to help Zou after all, in case someone invades Zou again for the Road Poneglyph.

I completely agree but I just wanted to know from those who believe it how long there willing to wait to see if this theory comes true

electricmastro

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Not trying to be a jerk but how long do we intend to wait for Carrot to come out of Caribou?

Not sure why Oda would have Carrot miss out on hearing Luffy’s true dream and give a reaction to it in the event that he did that. I guess it was just that crucial she stayed behind to help Zou after all, in case someone invades Zou again for the Road Poneglyph.

I completely agree but I just wanted to know from those who believe it how long there willing to wait to see if this theory comes true

If they have numerous examples of evidence and logical structured suggestions as to what may happen, then I'm willing to hear it out even if I don't agree with them.

electricmastro

The discussion of Robin’s story being “ruined” because Saul is alive really got me thinking about what people can expect to see when they mention things like “mentors” being needed for when someone is recruited.

I say that because of how Saul’s fate came to light in how I realize he’s not necessarily meant to be seen as a central figure in Robin’s life, at least when compared to Shanks, Kuina, Bell-mere, etc. It really became apparent that Clover was the central figure in her life in terms of them spending time with each other long enough to share a dream that compelled Robin to keep sailing, in addition to Olvia, even though Robin didn’t spend as much time with her.

So yeah, it’s because of how Saul isn’t relevant to Robin in the same way Clover, Olvia, and the other scholars were that I don’t think anything is missing from Robin in such a way that makes her “less” of a crewmate for not following a certain “prerequisite.”

Shift

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Not trying to be a jerk but how long do we intend to wait for Carrot to come out of Caribou?

Not sure why Oda would have Carrot miss out on hearing Luffy’s true dream and give a reaction to it in the event that he did that. I guess it was just that crucial she stayed behind to help Zou after all, in case someone invades Zou again for the Road Poneglyph.

I completely agree but I just wanted to know from those who believe it how long there willing to wait to see if this theory comes true

Forever, I suppose.

electricmastro

@Shift said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

Not trying to be a jerk but how long do we intend to wait for Carrot to come out of Caribou?

Not sure why Oda would have Carrot miss out on hearing Luffy’s true dream and give a reaction to it in the event that he did that. I guess it was just that crucial she stayed behind to help Zou after all, in case someone invades Zou again for the Road Poneglyph.

I completely agree but I just wanted to know from those who believe it how long there willing to wait to see if this theory comes true

Forever, I suppose.

I presumed for the time being that Carrot did willingly choose to help Zou however she could for the time being despite her full answer not being shown, because otherwise I’d be lead to think that the Minks forced her against her will as if being their figurehead slave, which I have no real evidence for.

That said, just so people have something to look forward to in that case, we can always look forward to the end of Egghead Arc, in an interlude, to see if Carrot has changed her mind.

I applied this same logic to Yamato since she can also always change her mind at any time, and that the safety of Zou and Wano would have to be dealt with in another way, since they both are non-Government locations with important Road Poneglyphs and such.

Oda choosing not to insert any update about Carrot can also be taken as an answer too, since for all he hyped up the importance of the Dawn and such, but to also have things play out the way he did following that, I think we’re allowed to assume that to not have an update is the same as telling us that Carrot is indeed still happy being at Zou, because if she wasn’t, then we’d of course have to shift back to see development on that.

I’m making sense, right?

Zik

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Ivotas

@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

I guess Kyka's body cant just send himself flying with the paw paw fruit?

Who is Kyka? First time I hear that name.

Zik

@Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):

I guess Kyka's body cant just send himself flying with the paw paw fruit?

Who is Kyka? First time I hear that name.

Posted in the wrong thread

Ivotas

@Zik
Please don't tell me this was a spoiler.

Zhenja

@Ivotas nah, don’t worry.