Realizing I fell into sunk-cost when forcing myself to miserably finish reading Naruto Shippuden despite hating 99% of every chapter of the 4th Shinobi War arc is what made me actually commit to dropping series more often when they'd reach my peak of intolerance. This has happened with both My Hero and Black Clover, but I think I've been more successful with My Hero. I've just never mustered any interest to crawl back to the series. Felt like it had such a strong start, making me care about almost an entire class of kid students and a villain squad and how they'd all grew towards eventual big conflict. Then it just skipped about 100 steps and pushed so many extra characters that were never as good. Anime wise, I'll hold onto 3 seasons fondly and parts of a 4th, and then pretend nothing else happened.

Vigilantes is the true series that kept the same vibe it's entire run.

This whole traitor plot has definitely made Egghead more enjoyable to me than when we thought it might just be lore and only lore. Fun chapter and loving things.

I will say, it feels kinda wrong that the cover skipped over showing past-Bakkins mooching off MADS, but now it feels like we're about wrapped up here. Maybe another page showing where they went from here or a page showing all the siblings together, but otherwise this feels about the end.

I feel like Sentomaru's gonna stick around to go "Down with the ship" so to speak and confront Kizaru when he arrives, now that he knows he's actually coming. We'll see if the unimportant citizens actually make it out and if they pick the right direction to go so they don't just get sunk at sea. It'd be a good Ohara callback if the first sign of the attack is the sinking of the citizen's ship. Might as well use them for something dramatic like that, since they really haven't been shown much.

The crushing of Pythagoras seems much more definitive an end, which seems to me like we can finally feel like the Punks are actually getting eliminated. Shaka might really be dead too, but I'll give that a little more time. There's definitely no reason why Lilith shouldn't get smashed next chapter, as there's nobody around to delay Snake anymore, and Hawk should probably be able to make it to Edison before Zoro and Kaku can stop it. Maybe while York is explaining herself, we'll see a little montage of them getting finished off. That would just leave it down to a chase to catch Atlas.

Looks like both Robin group and Jinbe/Stussy are using the boots to try and move faster. Maybe we actually will see the boot restraints get activated again to further limit who's actually active. I could see Zoro threatening to cut his feet off again...

Brook going spirit should mean he gets overlooked when something really bad happens to Sanji/Nami/Edison and then when things look like they're at their worst, good old MVP Brook will be back again to save the day.

York the greedy wants to join the greediest, laziest, awful people of the one piece world.... yup, makes sense to me. I'm glad at least 1 of the punks is crying foul on the decision to abandon their good thing in the world just for the sake of researching some ancient history some more. The void century is all in the past and the spirit of the Vegapunks is making the future! Just leave the past alone and move on, amirite? Leave it to the nutty criminals that don't have much to lose, like Robin, who I'm sure will have a lot to say if York makes an argument like this.

Anyway, I look forward to whatever York's reasoning will be and what comes next. We should hopefully get another chapter of context and developments before we finally fully dive into Bonney going through the memories. Bonney might return to join Brook as one of the only people left active to change the tides.

I've already trained my brain to believe the series ended after the Kamino ward raid arc. If I'm in an especially good mood, I'll include the provisional license exam. Everything past that I barely acknowledge and I really only keep hearing about what's going on from friends who are still reading.

Vigilantes is the real series anyway.

Personally, I've been getting increasingly annoyed over the years at the conceived notion that Robin was literally the only way anyone was ever finding the One Piece. There should never have been an argument that if someone else actually got all 4 poneglyph rubbings, they'd be shit out of luck just cause they don't have Robin. That'd just be....bad writing. There always needed to be more ways for people to win in the end, but it shouldn't reduce the value Robin really is as an asset to this goal.

Otherwise yeah, this is why I largely skipped over the history lore portion of discussion on the chapter and instead focused on the new current developments of Luffy finding ApplePunk and Shaka's sus level.

Definitely one of the better chapters we've had in awhile all thanks to the BB pirates chilling with Kuzan. It's so much more compelling to see him as a broken man, too much pride to return to the marines and too much self respect to join up with criminals. It's just... the twist of fate that Teach was the only man to approach him in these times with the right words. Suck it up and rejoin the marines? Just like with Ace, Garp has never had a clue how to really help people. He's all fists, no brains.

I don't want to see a big betrayal move anymore. It'd be boring to see and Teach would have to counter him immediately and take him out. Kuzan's living for himself now and this is way better than the long expected future for this character. It's time for ride or die, Kuzan!

Seeing the Blackbeards just screwing around with food and drink, having a good time with Kuzan, is all definitely going in my top BB Pirates moment ever. We were stuck with Kaido's crew for way too long. Their partying was so over the top, it never really feels like we saw them in "casual" mode. I missed this.

Compared to when we left off, it looks like Law must've been trying to escape. We don't see anyone but Bepo and him on land, so it feels fair to assume Law managed to move all his crew back to the ship as a last ditch attempt to escape (with Bepo-sulong being their own plan), but alas, Teach got them with one last quake strike. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned back when the fight started that the sub couldn't take much more. I'm not sure if I really expect the rest of his crew to be captured or not. Teach doesn't really have the crew members around to fish them out of the water, and some of them are really good in the water, so I could see them escaping too.

Between heading for Egghead or Elbaf by chance, back to Wano, or Zou, I think I'm gonna side with guessing Zou is Bepo's destination. Law did always have the vivre card for it.

If we assume Teach got the Poneglyph rubbings (not exactly guaranteed), he has at least Zou and Wano's now. I would assume Oda will say Kuzan and Auger also picked up Linlin's when they kidnapped Pudding, cause I don't really see the point in making BB go back there again to destroy it. If both of those are true, Teach has quickly caught up to Luffy on the poneglyph race and the burning man is the final target. Shanks should still need Zou though.

As much as we've been away, I'd like 1 more chapter of Garp before going back. I want to see Kuzan recover as well as Pizarro, Sanjuan, Vasco, and Shiryu show off a bit and put them on the defensive. We also really need to see Moria and Perona one more time...

We've been away long enough that I'm thinking we'll cut back to egghead already fast-forwarded a bit. Snake will have already stoned a few more strawhats, the BB ship will be nearing the port, and Luffy and Lucci will probably be about ready to finally solve the puzzle to stopping a Seraphim.

The arrival of the giants is as triumphant and epic as you'd expect, as well as completely and totally unearned to feel that way. A moment like this should come when things are at their darkest and we need the added help, but instead it's just compounded the beating that the government was already getting. I don't know what to expect from this development. It's all just too easy, but would Oda really bring up their big return just to beat them down? Current Oda leads me to doubt that.

Lilith has a plan. Whether that plan is for Nami/Ussop/Chopper/Robin to stop the ship or for someone to drop the barrier so they can hop on quickly, who knows. Clearly there must've been a plan to turn off the barrier despite nobody being left at the main controls, so it doesn't really matter. They've got solutions, there's nothing much to worry about up here.

I know the fans would probably rather mock Lucci in all this, but I enjoy his shit talking to Zoro. He's not wrong after all. If the situation was as dire as it should've been, Zoro would be the dead weight delaying our escape right now. Of course, Lucci doesn't know that things aren't as dire as they should be down below and the delay tactic really won't amount to anything when they're just straight winning against a buster call right now. It'd be more reasonable to have Lucci back off as Jinbe approaches (so he can recover Kaku and the agents), but I won't dismiss the possibility for an epic doublespread shot of Zoro/Jinbe taking him down.

The Luffy and Sanji stuff is probably what most fans were excited to see and all that. Fan pleasing galore, but doesn't really change much. We're right back to "Atlas/Franky/Bonney fleeing while Sanji stays for VP." Not the best circle Oda's pulled. If Vegapunk can't be moved without dying, he really needs to die here. It really isn't reasonable to get Chopper down here to save him in time anymore. We've got 3 other good punks still alive anyway. It's time for Vegapunk to give his death speech.

I feel like we'll see more of what the blackbeards were up to on the island all night next chapter. I'd expect Caribou to have to do more to convince them to bring him along than just that little begging.

With how terrible things swung against the government in these last chapters, it really has to be time for their final ace to be played. Come on Saturn, you gotta know it's time to just quit playing slow evil and just call down everything you got at this point.

@Deicide said in Chapter 1123: The Void Fortnight:

So let's revise Vegapunk's plan:

• Imprison or eliminate the traitor so she stops feeding info to the WG.
• Fortify Egghead by reprogramming Pacifistas and Seraphims, deploying holograms for decoy tactics, and employing bubble traps to nullify DF users.
• Contact Dragon early and ask for help/send info.
• Send some of the Satellites away so they are safe.
• Warn Sentomaru early so he can help planning defenses.
• Prepare a broadcast to show the government's actions to the world live.
• Create a trigger to broadcast the Void Century info in case of his death.
• Erase his own memory so he forgets everything and let the traitor do as she pleases.

Well, congrats. You made a scenario where Vegapunk looks more selfish and doesn't have the time to really do the research to properly figure out the Lulusia incident and what it's causing for the world. His message to the world will end up being more about trying to blame the government for attacking him, but lack anything substantial to help with the current panic about the earthquakes and raising sea levels. And of course, he's still gonna die in the end regardless of how well he prepares the island is still gonna burn.

This thread should probably be renamed to the "Yamato fanclub" thread. It only has 2 modes: Yamato fans patting themselves on the back on how every panel is more proof that Yamato's a lock. Or someone trying to bring up an opposing possibility getting dogpiled by the Yamato fans on how stupid and impossible it is. The power this 1 character has over fans… I worry for Oda if he actually does go with any rout that ends with Yamato not joining the crew.

I'd say odds are we're going to Sphinx to visit Ace's grave next, and the Yamato question won't be solved until the end of that mini-arc. Until then, Yamato will just be one of multiple tagalongs going to visit Ace's grave. But I'm sure fans will treat them special the moment they step on the Sunny, while the rest of the tagalongs get rejected and ignored.

Mind you, I'm not "Yamato will stay in Wano forever" crowd. I think the closest we'd get to that is Yamato staying with Momo temporarily, and then the next major cover story being entirely about the beginning and first journey of the Yamato pirates. Yamato needs their own journey and is more than capable and motivated to lead their own.

As bad as we know it's already gonna be decided, the biggest point should be that we don't need a statue for characters that already have them or will already be getting more of them. Another one for All Might, Deku, Bakugo, or Todoroki is just completely unnecessary.

Sure I voted for Koichi, but I just wish the collective fanbase population would have enough of a brain to vote for new people.

I'm sure many people have their ideal songs in mind they want to play to him and his ridiculous followers worshiping him now.

Mine is: Lily Allen - Fuck You

Might as well go a bit Norse-Nerd and throw out some predictions on how Oda may end up adapting the "9 Realms" into Elbaf.

Ground Level:
Midgard (Realm of Humans) - The area that we saw Kidd approach; where Shanks and his armada were docked; also likely the area Big Mom's Flashback took place with Mother Caramel's home base. We can't see it in the big spread of the island, but presumably we're looking at 1 half of the ground level suffering a harsh winter landscape, while the other side remains mostly mild with mostly flat landscapes. Rather than being a full "Realm of Humans," it's probably just acting as the main entrance and exit to the island.

Niflheim (Realm of Ice, Mist, and Snow) - With the frozen landscape and "sleeping mists" out in the waters on this side of the island, seems pretty fitting to represent this realm. Usually isn't much to this realm besides being one of the more ancient/primordial ones. Overall it just kinda exists and blends in a lot with the next realm.

Helheim (Realm of the Dead) - Between the castle jail and the act of tying Loki up around the base of the tree, it seems like Oda is also implementing Helheim into this area. There is usually a good bit of overlap between these 2 realms, with some saying Helheim directly taps into Niflheim's cold to make the realm worse/more fitting for the dead.

I'm going to guess that the branches of the tree probably extent out further to one half of the island, and the coverage is probably what makes 1 side suffer such harsher winter climate compared to the other. There appear to be a couple ways up from the ground level, but before we go there.

Underground
Muspelheim (Realm of Fire) and Svartelheim (Realm of Gnomes) - To explain the giant's ability to even make their huge armaments, I'll assume the Giants have been fairly successful at mining their lands in the past. Svartel being the mining cave system, and Muspel being a forging system taking advantage of some underground magma chambers (like Wano had). These seems the easiest for Oda to skip over and only give a glancing mention at some point. However, they could always serve as a base for Loki to end up temporarily hiding at once he's freed.

Now to return to traveling up. The bridge the East Blue cast are on seems moreso for purposes of traveling down to the prison castle, but convenience for our crew it works both ways. You can see what looks like some cables off to the side that are probably the more natural way to go up to the middle level of the tree.

Middle Level

Jotenheim (Realm of Giants) - Yes, technically all of Elbaf is the realm of giants. I'll be going with the guess that this middle level will be considered the more main home for the giants. I'd guess the majority are probably born, raised, train, and live up here in or outside the castle we can see.

Vanaheim (Realm of Vanir/Lesser gods) - Usually these are more nature and fertility related gods, so it's a realm of nature and overgrowth. Everything between the cannons and castle up on this level could lean towards Asgard, but I'm gonna propose that Oda will be misleading us on this. While the majority of giants are probably here, and we'll probably find Hajrudin working on stuff here, the real biggest aspects of Elbaf will be up top, past the rainbow bridge.

Top Level

Alfheim (Realm of Elves) - While there probably aren't actual elves on the island too, a common aspect of the realm is an abundance of bright light. This might just end up being what they call the canopy of the tree. The level that gets to bathe directly in the light of the sun and maybe even connects with the white white sea.

Asgard (Realm of the Gods) - We can see a small bit of the rainbow bridge on the level below. This likely implies that the actual most important land to the giants is up above in the top layer. Whether there's a castle up there too where the main giant royalty live, or it's just a place where they hide away their most important valuables and historic secrets, we'll have to wait and see.

And that's enough nonsense overspeculation off my nerdy mythology care for awhile.

Might as well mention it in here too, but Diskotek Media is finally set to release their project on the Digimon movie rerelease.

https://x.com/discotekmedia?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

$30 overall is actually not too bad considering they had to pull off a new english dub (although they did get a lot of the old english voice actors to come back for it) for their "Uncut" version of the 3 movies. I've always been an English version purist, so I've never bothered really looking into all the Hurricane Touchdown parts that were cut out way back when they combined the 3 for English release.

Then you have the og Japanese audio if you don't care for that version, or even the og english dub version if that's more your fancy.

Hoping this does well enough for them that we can relatively quickly get Revenge of Diaboramon and Runaway Locomon on physical release for the first time ever. They were dubbed, but had very few airings. Maybe they can even try dubbing the no-dub movies too.

The biggest pipe dream is to see them do well enough down the line that they'll eventually be able to finish some of the dubs they've salvaged. Digimon has been pretty lucky in that regard, but Xcros Wars could always stand to get it's final season finished in english. Ghost Games also just got straight passed up on any english dub.

I subscribe to Gon being an unnatural freak monster from the Dark Continent and that's why he's a "Nen Genius" along with impossible charisma instead of the explanation of him just being some dumb kid that got to play around in the forest/mountains a lot.

@Deicide said in Chapter 1123: The Void Fortnight:

So let's revise Vegapunk's plan:

• Imprison or eliminate the traitor so she stops feeding info to the WG.
• Fortify Egghead by reprogramming Pacifistas and Seraphims, deploying holograms for decoy tactics, and employing bubble traps to nullify DF users.
• Contact Dragon early and ask for help/send info.
• Send some of the Satellites away so they are safe.
• Warn Sentomaru early so he can help planning defenses.
• Prepare a broadcast to show the government's actions to the world live.
• Create a trigger to broadcast the Void Century info in case of his death.
• Erase his own memory so he forgets everything and let the traitor do as she pleases.

Well, congrats. You made a scenario where Vegapunk looks more selfish and doesn't have the time to really do the research to properly figure out the Lulusia incident and what it's causing for the world. His message to the world will end up being more about trying to blame the government for attacking him, but lack anything substantial to help with the current panic about the earthquakes and raising sea levels. And of course, he's still gonna die in the end regardless of how well he prepares the island is still gonna burn.

@Kitsune-Inferno said in One Piece anime remake by Wit Studio:

I'm personally interested in seeing what an adaptation of the original manga that is free of those constraints would feel like. Granted, we know that Toei has a hand in this and it won't be completely free of Toei influence, but I would be fairly disappointed if this was just a retread of the original anime.

I mean, what do you even do with East Blue without ruining things entirely? These are some of the smallest arcs that they already got right in every way. Changes in adaptations are fine, but if they aren't better than the choices made by the original, there's still very little reason to justify it's existence.

As far as I can tell, this isn't being marketed to be doing it's own major thing like the Live Action, so big drastic changes wouldn't really be in my expectations.

East Blue just needs the crew to show off their upgraded animation style, sound direction, voices, music, etc etc and hope they do a good enough job to justify continuing. That's pretty much what all this early promotion material is raising my expectations for. Then they can really start digging into things in the Alabasta saga.

Hell, what we all want is for them to just get to Post Timeskip and fix all of those arcs. But because of the nature of things, we're stuck waiting through everything they're gonna mess with pre-timeskip and hope it makes it to what really needs fixing.

I wonder who'll get to do a new remix/cover of We Are.

I think all the other openings are free game to replace, but you don't go without a new version of We Are to start things off, right?

Hopefully not. DBZ Kai sucked out all the fun soul of DBZ. I'll never go that route to watching Namek especially. Buu saga is the only thing that survived that awful adaptation largely intact and still enjoyable.

Most of East Blue should be spent on trying to show off and do impressive stuff with the animation upgrades. I can't see most of these arcs being cut down by more than an episode or 2 max. Maybe Loguetown can be streamlined down a bit, idk. Cutting out the Apis arc should be plenty of episodes, although I would miss the scene of Nami knocking Eric off the Merry.

Kidd and Killer will be fine for an epilogue cameo showing them to be one of Luffy's more regular battle knuckleheads. Oda's gonna have space to fill once Blackbeard and Shanks are retired or eliminated by the end of the series anyway. It's not like the Beast Pirates are ever gonna recover and Linlin's family seems better off just giving up major piracy to stay and run Totland.

I know Drake's story isn't done, but he really has a lot to make up for the giant waste of time including him in Wano was. He's the absolute worst of the bunch right now. As it stands, he's a bad undercover agent and he's so rigid in orders that he's got no clue what to do when shit hits the fan and he has to adapt. Honestly, with him switching to be a major sword character, we shouldn't even really count him with the supernovas anymore. Now the most we can expect of him is to become one of Coby's top men when he takes over near the end.

Apoo playing wildcard has me expecting to still see more of him and he'll probably try to pull the same stuff under Buggy or Blackbeard. Just a little annoyed Oda still hasn't cleared up if the guy got out with all the Numbers, just a few, or just Inbi.

Hawkins played his role of the supernova who gave up just fine. Of course, if Drake's alive, I fully expect Hawkins still alive too. The question will just be if his drive was reignited at all or if he's just gonna retire to go full fortune teller now. I like to think Killer and maybe Drake did the former for him, but time will tell.

The world flooding should be something to drive Capone back into the action. The guy's not gonna tolerate having to let his son grow up in such a world. Guy was great on WCI, but was really lacking any other region to stay in the game until now. With Lola basically recruited, these guys actually have one of the most legit reasons to just ally under Luffy going forward, but we'll see.

Law is Law. He'll be back for me. As far as future-epilogue goes though... guy seems more like he's gonna step down from the famous pirate role to fully lean into the traveling miracle doctor. He'll just "happen" to run into Luffy every now and then.

Bonney still has story going to wait and see what's being setup.

Looking forward to Share the Urouge.

He's my governor, although I live way out in Northwestern Minnesota that really wants to pretend they're from North Dakota or that they can turn MN Red. Without looking I could already tell you what their plans of attack will be.

They'll attack his handling of the George Floyd/BLM riots, saying he'll let more of the country burn and is too weak because of it. They'll ignore the fact it was a bunch of white supremacy nutcases starting all the shit everywhere.

They'll attack his covid lockdowns for being tyrannical and a complete failure on the education system (ignoring this was mostly a parenting problem) and businesses (lots of nutcases that refused to follow the rules and got punished for it).

And the real nasty folks will attack his immigration policies with our growing Somalian population here. Lot of racists out there who have been stewing in anger about that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up the main target of attack and absorbs a lot of the opposition's time and focus. Especially since they can't find much to attack Kamala on that isn't "She's a woman" and their own racism.

As bad as we know it's already gonna be decided, the biggest point should be that we don't need a statue for characters that already have them or will already be getting more of them. Another one for All Might, Deku, Bakugo, or Todoroki is just completely unnecessary.

Sure I voted for Koichi, but I just wish the collective fanbase population would have enough of a brain to vote for new people.