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Eiichiro Oda
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So, after Ch 1056, my guesses were proven right: Buggy is just a figurehead, and Cross Guild is Crocodile's idea. Croc came to Buggy's aid, and contacted Mihawk.
I really like how Oda treated Crocodile. He was always an incredible villain, his position here fits perfectly, and it's good to see powerscalers having to scratch their heads and admit that strength can fluctuate.
As for the crew's bounties, they lead me to believe that the WG is totally in the dark about the details in Onigashima. CP-0 has probably not shared much, and Drake may not have reported yet. So, the marines just lumped the main fighters together and gave a base bounty increase to the others. This also explains Luffy being the same as Law and Kid, or why Chopper is still a pet. Robin is the exception, as the WG is again pursuing her actively.
Why wouldn't Drake have reported yet? Maybe that was the point of that small scene between him and the CP-leader. He was shigan'ed through the throat, maybe he needed time to heal.
Wow, what a refreshing chapter. While only a small portion of the chapter it was nice to see the entire crew interacting with each other in different ways. Stand out moments were Jimbe getting scared of Nami in her rage mode and Robin making Chopper feel better with Cotton Candy. The entire part of Mihawk and Crocodile threatening Buggy was fun to read as well. Going from being unhappy to finding the situation to be beneficial to them was pretty great. Will be interested to see what Sabo ends up having to say when we return from the break.
Honestly, I hope we don't see more of Sabo for awhile. I want more Strawhat crew interactions first and foremost and anything to do with the Revs and Sabo is going to be an exposition dump of what happened at the Holy Land. In addition, I want Luffy's reaction to the news at the Holy Land regarding Sabo and Vivi before Sabo tells us what really happened; the reverse doesn't make any of dramatic sense. No, it's better to have Luffy learn the news, we get a few chapters of their time of the next island, and then we have the truth get revealed after it's stewed with us a bit longer.
So, the correct bounty for Zoro is 1,111,000,000 as in the official release (makes sense given his 11/11 birthday), or 1,100,001,100 as in the scanlation?
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
@Deicide We know from the raws that it's not 1,111,000,000.
The four final digits of his bounty are 1100, I think. Japanese numerics are weird.
Cross Guild is awesome. Super fun chapter.
@King-Cannon Thanks, I was checking the official brazilian translation and it's also 1,100,001,100, so Viz made a mistake.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
Strawhat crew interaction :'). I've missed these kind of chapters so much.
Luffy and Buggy paralleling each other this chapter. Lol.
The Cross Guild team up is spectacular so far. It's so good to see Sir Crocodile again.
@Deicide Could also be Oda's mistake, but until it's stated, the number SHOULD be 1,100,001,100 according to the raws.
I assume Stephen just didn't have a good way to depict Zoro's bounty with just four digits.
@Deicide @King-Cannon apparently it was a mistake/typo in the japanese release, and Stephen's version is right: it's 1.111 billion.
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Thanks, that clears up everything.
I don't get how the marines can refer to Chopper as the crew's doctor yet still refer to him as their pet.
Franky's poster pic was weird too.
@QueenTangerine3 said in Chapter 1058: New Emperors:
Strawhat crew interaction :'). I've missed these kind of chapters so much.
Luffy and Buggy paralleling each other this chapter. Lol.
The Cross Guild team up is spectacular so far. It's so good to see Sir Crocodile again.
I suspect Oda will try to take advantage of this for the next set of chapters being more low-key and have more interactions that way, similar to Zou after Dressrosa.
Narrator should know Chopper is emergency food supply not a pet...
Return of sketch bounty Sanji it seems (with the reversed eyebrow ?)
Ah yes Viz, the mark of quality
Good to know Zoro bounty is not 1,100,001,100, those thousand and hundreds digits were bugging me since no other bounty has those (Chopper and Bepo donât count).
Now I need someone to find out the goroawase on the Cross Guild ones.
@access-timeco said in Chapter 1058: New Emperors:
Now I need someone to find out the goroawase on the Cross Guild ones.
I saw in Twitter that Crocodile's is: 1.965 = 9-6-5 = Ku-ro-ko
Wow, between Crocodile, Mihawk and Jinbe, Oda really making sure that being a former warlord is a big deal. Wouldn't surprise me if both Hancock and Weevil are above a billion too (To be honest with Weevil it'd be surprising if he isn't). And I wonder if Kuma has a new bounty now, too.
I'm very interested in the Sabo situation. It's super suspicious that his alleged murder of Cobra was framed in that chapter as making him a savior figure around the world. We know for a fact that can only be half-true. The people of Alabasta probably think Sabo is the worst criminal in the world, and probably many more. I'm reminded of that Doflamingo speech in Marineford about how everyone have different values depending on their upbringing and situation. Dragon's reaction only adds to that. Seems obvious that he was framed, but what I'm really wondering is if he didn't even manage to get away and he's actually in big trouble himself.
@Sengokusgoat said in Chapter 1058: New Emperors:
Wow, between Crocodile, Mihawk and Jinbe, Oda really making sure that being a former warlord is a big deal. Wouldn't surprise me if both Hancock and Weevil are above a billion too (To be honest with Weevil it'd be surprising if he isn't). And I wonder if Kuma has a new bounty now, too.
I'm very interested in the Sabo situation. It's super suspicious that his alleged murder of Cobra was framed in that chapter as making him a savior figure around the world. We know for a fact that can only be half-true. The people of Alabasta probably think Sabo is the worst criminal in the world, and probably many more. I'm reminded of that Doflamingo speech in Marineford about how everyone have different values depending on their upbringing and situation. Dragon's reaction only adds to that. Seems obvious that he was framed, but what I'm really wondering is if he didn't even manage to get away and he's actually in big trouble himself.
Kuma is in the chapter too, since maybe Boa, Doflamingo, and Moria will appear in the next chapter, seeing as it's only fitting.
I think Bonney is with Sabo and we might get Chibi Sabo next chapter as they used her powers to move around...
It would be funny if he's with Bonney, Vivi and Rebecca (she's friends with both Sabo and Vivi, might have stuck around with them) and Koala just gets really mad. Like ''I was so worried and you've just been flirting around!''
So, the story has covered the current status of Luffy, Shanks and Buggy, as well as Mihawk, Crocodile and Kuma.
That leaves Blackbeard for emperors and Weevil/Hancock for Warlords.
Some (wild) 1059 predictions:
The Drake part is an unlikely guess, but I will stick to it. I feel it will be him and Koby that will disclose Hancock's situation to us, and I feel his ship appearing to be a threat now is a nice way to make that exposition exciting.
I'm interested in knowing what's Crocodile's end game. Why attack the Navy? It has to be more than just protecting himself.
@Sengokusgoat said in Chapter 1058: New Emperors:
It would be funny if he's with Bonney, Vivi and Rebecca (she's friends with both Sabo and Vivi, might have stuck around with them) and Koala just gets really mad. Like ''I was so worried and you've just been flirting around!''
I imagine Bonney inevitably crossed paths with Sabo because of Kuma. If they share the same goal to the end, no doubt she stuck around him.
I'm glad Zoro's bounty is 11 million more than Jinbe's. It just being 1100 more was bugging me.
Did no other bounty change?
I'm a bit surprised by Dragon's stance on murder. I was under the impression that everything was a GO when it comes to dethroning the Celestial Dragons. It seems that Dragon has a stronger moral compass than I thought. It'll be interesting to (finally) meet him.
Some of the bounties are just weird but Crocodile's is super awkward. There's no good reason why his bounty would be almost twice the amount of Katakuri and only slightly less than emperor Blackbeard's. If you add up the bounties, it seems like Oda wanted similar totals for the Strawhats and Cross Guild (8.8 billion) but it rubs me the wrong way. I had always been impressed about how much the world of One Piece felt alive because of certain rules that applied to it and which you could always rely on in a way that still didn't make the story unpredictable. Recently, some of these rules seem to be ignored, bounties that make sense are the latest example.
@puffing-cinema How can he even think Sabo actually did that though? I guess he doesn't really know Sabo and has neglected him like he has his own son.
I laughed my ass off imagining the future use this panel could get during elections.
A reminder in chapter 955 Morgans said there was a murder and an attempt murder at the Levely. Since Vivi status is MIA, Iâm assuming the attempted murder was not her.
@Barkworm said in Chapter 1058: New Emperors:
Some of the bounties are just weird but Crocodile's is super awkward. There's no good reason why his bounty would be almost twice the amount of Katakuri and only slightly less than emperor Blackbeard's. If you add up the bounties, it seems like Oda wanted similar totals for the Strawhats and Cross Guild (8.8 billion) but it rubs me the wrong way. I had always been impressed about how much the world of One Piece felt alive because of certain rules that applied to it and which you could always rely on in a way that still didn't make the story unpredictable. Recently, some of these rules seem to be ignored, bounties that make sense are the latest example.
The SH bounties make sense if you consider the Marine is in the dark regarding the fights in Onigashima. But Crocodileâs makes no sense to me either, a ~1 billion would make perfect sense regarding the current bounties of Commanders, but nearly 2 billion is way too much. He is closer to Teach (an actual Emperor) than to Marco.
I liked the chapter, too. Fun to read, every page. What e relief. I am looking firward to the next arc.
@danie I could see Oda giving him some development over it. Sabo certainly has a (justifiable) grudge against CD, and learning to have such a strong moral compass from Dragon could give him room for some struggling that I'd like to see on screen.
Wasn't the attempted murder the one Charlos suffered? Or am I mixing things up?
Funny bit: Viz had both 1053 and 1058 chapters' title "New Emperors" (according to the wiki), but the romanized title are very different (respectively, Atarashii KÅtei-tachi and Shin Kotei).
The attempted murderer was supposedly that of Charolos by Mysogard, according to Borsalino in chap. 154. It's probably not the whole truth but Charolos was probably the intended victim.
@puffing-cinema Yeah, i like that Dragon doesn't take assassination lightly, but i feel he should have an inkling that Sabo was scapegoated yet we've gotten no indication that that's even crossed his mind.
If we spent the next five chapters visiting the CG, Revolutionaries, WG, and SH grand fleet/allies, I'd be just fine with it. I love seeing Croco-boy and Mihawk back and I'd love to check in on several others.
I think most inter-arc exposition happens over two, at most three chapters. So I guess we will return to the Straw Hats either next chapter or 1060.
@access-timeco said in [Chapter 1058: New Emperors]
The SH bounties make sense if you consider the Marine is in the dark regarding the fights in Onigashima. But Crocodileâs makes no sense to me either, a ~1 billion would make perfect sense regarding the current bounties of Commanders, but nearly 2 billion is way too much. He is closer to Teach (an actual Emperor) than to Marco.
It makes some sense when you consider Crocodile is an executive from an organization putting bounties on Marines.
On Crocodile's bounty:
I can see his bounty rising up even before the timeskip to something between 350M and 500M.
Then he spent 2 years doing who-knows-what that could have further improved his threat level.
And then he came back and helped destroy a freaking Marine fleet that was after Buggy.
And THEN he formed the Cross Guild and invited Mihawk. Sure, Buggy got the credit, but Croc's bounty would rise for just being an executive in such an organization.
I think just destroying the fleet would have skyrocketed his bounty. The marines were hoping those fleets would be enough to beat the Warlords.
So, I guess the bounty may seem high, but I don't think it's too high.
I totally didn't register the Charlos thing. So, yeah, cross that out then.
Btw, rereading chapter 1054 things are a bit in contradiction with the timeline we had before. Teach said the RA fought the Admirals on the 4th day, but according to Garp Cobra's murder happened after the Levely was already over. But on chapter 1054 those events are retold as if they happened just a few hours apart.
@danie said in Chapter 1058: New Emperors:
@puffing-cinema Yeah, i like that Dragon doesn't take assassination lightly, but i feel he should have an inkling that Sabo was scapegoated yet we've gotten no indication that that's even crossed his mind.
He says if Sabo killed Cobra. So he is not treating it as an undisputable fact.
Absolutely exaggerated bounties for the Cross Guild folks, they have done nothing nearly comparable to completely dismantling a Yonkou organization like Luffy and Pals did, but I guess existing equals as much danger as beating up Linlin...
The only thing Oda has managed to do here, is dehyping the Worst Gen Trio bounties, those arent remarkable numbers, its just numbers you cant get by also doing nothing.
Very well done.
So many 1s with Zoro, bounty being 1.111b, having a 11/11 birthday, all in true zorome ããç® fashion.
Mostly a really enjoyable chapter
Crew reaction was fun and much more enjoyable then the previous bounty reveal with them being their typical self. Nami wanting to collect her own bounty and Zoro teasing Sanji were quite fun. I wonder if the narration is calling Chopper a commander and the newspaper call him a pet. Or is the navy calling the strawhat pet also a commander.
I think the marines dont know the details of what happened on Wano and just adjusted the crew bounties to Luffy being emperor. So their bounties made sense to me. I was especially happy with Robin. if anything I'd knock out 200 of the three above Robin.
Cool to get confirmation that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. That paint a big future for how far Zoro must go. he also had a lot more personality in this appearance. Exchanging strategy with Crocodile, being annoyed with Buggy He always seem so business it was nice to get something else. Bounty wise I wish Mihawk and blackbeard had flipped their revealed bounties.
I liked seeing Buggy be profoundly humiliated but I dont care for the lampshading. The development being mocked still happened. I stand that cross guild should have been a seperate organization with 3 official leaders rather than a yonko with the usual captain and his commanders. And keeping the emperor title for the 3 major players left in the one piece race. The MC, his mentor and his rival.
I assume Dragon knows Cobra from his strong respose to his possible death. I'm still crossing my fingers that Sabo will somehow give Vivi to the crew.
@access-timeco Right. He obviously doubts it going by his reactions to the news, but that's not exactly the same as suspecting Sabo was scapegoated... I just don't like how he comes off as clueless.
I find post wano bounties quite annoying outside the strawhats.
Law and Kidd getting the same bounty as Luffy is annoying after the events and ressources he gathered inflated his bounty much above the other 2.
There's no reason Crocodile would get 1.9B as a yonko commander with no real accomplishment to his name (all went to Buggy). I'm not even sure he's consider first commander when Mihawk is also one.
Buggy get a bigger bounty then people that took out yonko without taking out any some major player like an admiral or other massive event just potential.
And with Mihawk we have a commander with a bounty bigger than 3 yonko including his own because he is the one thing Oda respect enough to protect from the buggy joke.
Blackbeard bounty so incredibly inadequate after a year talking over countries with criminals so terrible they had to erase them and being also a former warlord. He's buggy but with longer time, more incident and 2 fruits.
Call me old fashion but I like the idea that the Yonko are the most dangerous pirates(AKA have the biggest bounty) and they are very hard to surpass.
@Monquito Meh. Oda has made it clear that the assignment of bounties is very flawed, so who cares. It's just for fun.
This chapter was a breath of fresh air after the rough place the last one ended. I might be overthinking things, but I'd go as far as saying it feels like a soft reset for series after the crazy continuity creep of Wano. To one extent or another, every new arc takes the series and its cast back to basics, but after four years of Wano, to effect is all the more pronounced. I think also about Oda's recent comment welcoming people who start reading from the latest chapters, and the liklihood of this being the first chapter of a new volume. It's a great time to bring new readers in with a reintroduction of the core crew and a showcase of their dynamics and relationships.
It also feels a little like an appeal to older readers, the ones who say post-timeskip has been bogged down with too much focus on side characters, giving them exactly what they want with just the Strawhats and a group of fan-favourite legacy villains from the series' early years in focus.
Whatever the motive, all this makes for a real crowd-pleaser of a chapter that I loved reading. If I'm ever not excited for a bounty reveal chapter, I'm not excited for One Piece. It's such classic content.
Jinbe's addition to the crew is great. I love the way he buys completely into the hype surrounding the other crew members and does it with a totally straight, respectful face. He just straight up thinks so highly of these people that something like Nami displaying Conqueror's Haki just makes sense to him. Despite the similarities, his version reads very differently to Luffy and Chopper believing Usopp's lies, or the kind of enthusiastic fanboy hyperbole we would have got if someone like Bartolomeo or Yamato had come aboard. The big guy's a great fit.
The actual figures on the bounty posters don't mean that much to me in terms of analysis or power scaling or deciding characters' worth, but they still tickle that 'number goes up' part of the brain, and manage to feel like a celebration of these characters' accomplishments. Zoro and Sanji's fight is a highlight, but I'm very interested in what happened with Franky's photo. Seems like a hard mistake to make, especially considering the Sunny was hidden outside and not a factor in the Onigashima battle. This feels like a future plot point building, but it could just as easily be written off as a gag in the next chapter.
Cross Guild is just as fun as its first reveal suggested, and makes a great way to bring all these classic characters back to relevance for the final act of the story. I wouldn't say the mix of misunderstandings and being propped up as a figurehead that got Buggy where is are particularly surprising, but they're still tremendously fun to watch play out.
The last scene with the Revolutionaries really makes me realise how much we still don't know about this group. It seems strange for Dragon to be so against the murder of an influential World Government king. Does he have insider knowledge that Cobra is one of the good ones? Is he privy to some lore about the Nefeltari family's connections to ancient secrets, like the Poneglyph they were keeping hidden in their crypts? Or is the coup, when it comes, to be nonviolent? Dragon has been a presence in the story for so long I'm really looking forward to seeing what he's all about. Hopefully the next chapter picks up Sabo's call where it leaves off and gives us some more to work with.
The only complaint I could possibly level at this chapter is there being no hint at all of the next destination, and that one's completely up to my own impatience. It's a fantastic starting point for the final saga and I can't wait to see what's next. There's even the digital version of volume 103 and the colour version of volume 99 coming out at the end of the week to soften the blow of the break. I'm happy to be a One Piece fan right now.
I think the idea is that Mihawk is already regarded as an Emperor-level threat. I don't see his absurd bounty diluting the importance of the Emperors, but rather a sign that there was this 5th pirate that was already on that level but never cared about ruling the seas so never got the title.
Buggy's bounty is too high when you consider Teach and Luffy, but his is not meant to be taken seriously.
