@Ivotas said in Chapter 1060: Luffy's Dream:
Seeing as how many people truly enjoyed the chapter you guys might want to skip this post because it's going to get ugly. That being said, I'll examine the good and the bad first.
Caribou in the barrel. I like that we went straight to the chains without even showing the crew noticing him and pinning him down. It just gives off a great "business as usual" feel. Nice invironmental storytelling there.
Even Luffy calling out the Buggy being an Emperor thing as nonesense. Don't get wrong, I've accepted the explenation Oda provided. But it's nice that the protagonists is actually annoyed as he was actually directly involved in opening up two Emperor spots. So being annoyed that somebody else claimed a spot without having done anything is a natural reaction IMO.
Ancient Friggin' Weapon in action. It was so long in the making and I have to say I'm not disappointed. Heck, we didn't even see it but we saw what we can do. To me there is just something like primal fear that always scares the shit out of me when an entire population is vanquished in an instant. The last time I was hit that much was with Xerxes in FMA.
Zoro's reasoning on why Luffy shouldn't go. I have no problems with Zoro stopping Luffy and having him assess the situation. Many things he says are also right. Going to Arabasta makes no sense. Think before acting makes sense. But the Ace thing is argument that doesn't work with how the Ace situation concluded.
Imagine you find yourself in a situation where you wanted to help a person you like/love be they family or friends and you decide against it because you trust them. And then a couple of days later you find out how serious that trouble actually is and you go to help them, only to fail at the finish line. Wouldn't it eat you up thinking "I should have gone a few days ago when I heard it first"? There's no way a person wouldn't have those regrets in this situation.
And with Ace time actually was of the essense. He missed Ace in Impel Down by what can be only a few hours. Having gone there a few days earlier would have changed so much. I'm aware that he wouldn't have had Hancock to help. I'm not talking about the logistics but about the feeling of regret. And if something bad happens because you were late, then timing is an intergral part of regret. So with these feelings being part of Luffy, the "think about the Ace situation" is the wrong approach to talk sense into him.
Robin keeping important detail out for plot convenience. That's pretty much it. No more in deep things I have to say about this one.
Luffy being seperated from the crew yet again. Can we for once just have the full team just land on an island and make port as they used to in the good old days. I guess these days I have to be thankful that we saw this happen a whole whopping two times in Punk Hazard and Dressrosa. Also I fail to see the blown away thing to be that much of a hassle for Luffy who can Gear 4th walk on air or for Sanji who could Air Walk after them.
Keeping the dream under wraps still. If you call a chapter 'Luffy's Dream' then reveal the dream. Because if not all you're doing it is a) only hyping up more which doesn't need to be hyped up anyways and b) you're creating this awkward situation where the crew didn't know about Luffy's dream for so long.
Luffy's DREAM! This secret that we are not meant find out is Luffy's actual dream. That and not to become Pirate King, not to have the most freedom in the world, but this! I had no problems with this secret the way it was handled up until this chapter. It was just an oath between brothers that simply added another layer to the Pirate King thing. But now, twice in this chapter it is said that becoming Pirate King is a minimum requirement to achieve his dream.
To put it in gamer terms. Becoming Pirate King is not the end goal of the quest anymore as it seemed until now. From this moment on the title of Pirate King is the super rare quest item that will enable you to beat the game and claim your reward. Come on Oda!
I know this is not a deal breaker to you. And yes, I know, it doesn't change the direction of the manga in the slightest. But it's just yet another "whoever said the Espada go from 1 to 10" moment Oda pulls. The story always made a big deal about the importance of dreams. All the main characters have clearly defined dreams, Luffy doesn't kill but crushes the bad guys' dreams and he always claims that he's going to become the PK (in the anime even at the end of each episode preview). And now after two and a half decades and more than 1,000 chapters not only were we mislead by what his dream was, we actually still don't have a single clue what the main protagonists real dream actually is. If you are fine with this then that's ok. But to me that's just a letdown.
The only thing I can conclude out of this however is, that this secret cannot (or shall not be) something as trivial as a big party or freedom for everyone. It has to be something ridiculous you purposely hide because revealing it at beginning of the story would create completely different expectations of where the story is going to be. The only thing I can think of is now in fact going to the moon, respectively space travel.
Just think about the situation you would find yourself in as a young Oda who wants to launch a series that's hopefully running for a few years but has no audience yet. You have two one shots and then chapter 1 which all show a boy who wants to be pirate in what seems to be a colonial times setting. And then you say the protagonists dream is to go to the moon/space. You would create a complete different set of expectations of the story. People would think spacetravel is a core element. They would think, that's an interesting mix of genres. They would want to know how space travel connects to colonial times. So Oda would have to write a completely different story to meet those expectations. Or he just proceeds as he did, risking to alienate all the readers that picked the story up because of that premise. So better leave them in the dark and reveal it at a later point.
If that's the reason than I can understand why we to keep it a secret. But that doesn't mean that I agree with the approach. A more elegant way would have been to make clear from the get go that there's an additional layer to becoming PK and that this is his endgoal. This story is already build on a mystery, namely the mystery what One Piece actually is. I you just add "I need One Piece to achieve my dream" you wouldn't take away from the treasure at all. It could have been an easy throwaway line. Have the dialog play out like this:
Luffy: "I'm gonna be Pirate King!"
Shanks: "Hahaha, why would a runt like you want to be a pirate anyway?"
Luffy: "Because I'm gonna ...."
That's it. Enter secret right there. People know from the get go that there's a deeper motivation. Also you create an additional mystery the audience wants to see solved. But nope, we go "Espada 0 Yammy Riyalgo" all over again, which just is a downer to me so close after the entire Nika fruit dumpsterkubo.
Agree with most of your bad. Although I think Luffy will just fly back or be saved quickly. Also I think the crew being separated into 2 group when the story starts is fairly common. little garden, drum, jaya, etc... usually Luffy or a group of 3 goes in first and the rest is behind.
I remember having the problem you mentioned with the ugly when Shanks mentioned Luffy said the same thing as the captain. And I felt it was new info to make Luffy similar to Roger that I didnt have and rewrote why I saw Shanks give hope to Luffy. At this point I have learned to accept Oda just adding a bunch of new stuff to Luffy's past that werent initially there. I'm just annoyed that if it was going to be a reveal Oda chose to waste the crew reaction on a tease. Thats cheap.