You also implied that since I'm criticising the anti-russia stance, I'm alt-right,
No I'm basing that as much on your past comments and behavior.
ahahaha, you are not left wing.
America Illiteracy Comment #3: Calling American libertarians left wing.
Bernie said nothing of the sort.
The Libertarians are not left-wing.
And the Greens are an ideologically bankrupt party of buffoons so deep in Russia's control that their candidate attended a dinner event with him alongside far-right Trumpists.
The entire phrase your using is well poisoning garbage by the way. "Anti-Russia". Russia isn't the problem, Russia's actions are. You're the perfect useful idiot in how you probably don't even know you're messing up the conversation by tracking that through the house.
Are you seriously fucking asking why military annexation and unprovoked invasion of other countries needs to be opposed? This is what you're actually asking in the year 2017?
Indeed this is all true. But does it really outweigh the risks involved in explicitly making a country with a large military power, who also has nukes and an unstable leader, angry?
Putin is not unstable. And Russia is not going to attack or nuke the US.
Is it really worth the effort when they are our 'allies' against ISIS,
Russia is not a fucking ally against ISIS.
This is yet another piece of fake news disinfo crap you've been fed.
and we're trying to have our strike teams work together
NATO doesn't even need Russian air strikes. The key component is local forces on the ground. Not Russians of any kind.
Is giving real, tangible reasons to the hate the US to russian nationals a good thing?
Is having Russia's horrific civilian destroying methods "helping" in Syria, and creating shitloads of people who will hate us even more a good thing lol.
I'm sure are also very much fed state lies, but is it wise to exacerbate the problem by damaging their economy and making the people feel the consequences of US sanctions first hand?
Most of the sanctions have been targeted at higher ups, the Russian economy as a whole has been suffering through both self-inflicted counter-sanctions and dropping oil prices.
I'm not trying to 'excuse' Russia in any way. I find their actions over the last few years completely deplorable, and will condemn them as much as the next person. I'm just questioning the response that establishment Dems and Republicans alike seem to want the US government to take, because quite frankly, it seems counterproductive if you're trying to maintain world peace.
Missing in all this hand-wringing and borderline concern trolling your doing is even the remotest hint at an alternative.
You're making two clashing arguments.
1. Leave Russia alone.
2. World peace is good.
Russia's actions in the first place are a serious threat to world peace, something has to be done about that. Yet all of your words here amount to nothing being done that would be against Russia. Nothing that would make Russia pay a cost.
Given you're backdrop is fucking Trump, whose policy is to utterly free Russia of blame, yeah go figure why people are jumping on you.
And as for ensuring that Russia does not act belligerent towards countries, or try to annex land in a militaristic way, I frankly don't see these sanctions stopping this from happening. They're not helping, they're not changing anything.
The Donbas conflict you just realized existed thanks to this argument has frozen into a very slow low level conflict, well until the past couple days where things are heating up again that is.
But yes, again your suggestion here is Russia deserves no response at all.
Reset relationships. Start anew, treating Russia as an ally.
Aahahahaha, see? I fucking knew it.
The greatest irony of this bullshit is this is precisely how the Obama administration started off with the Russians, including Hillary herself. A literal reset button and all.
Everything you post in this.
And if they act out of line, double down on the sanctions. Hit the one-percent in Russia, the people Putin surrounds himself with, and freeze their assets. Try to avoid damaging the middle class and the poor. Keep pressing Putin personally them until he goes back on his belligerent actions, whatever they may be. Providing compensation and all.
IS THE ACTUAL REAL LIFE SITUATION OF 2014.
Guess what! Russia as it is is fundamentally built on authoritarianism, military and economic imperialism with its smaller weaker neighbors, and keeping the wool over their people's eyes with hyper-nationalism and strongman populism. All of which was threatened by the country of Ukraine pushing away Russian influence.
It didn't matter what the US did or said. The reason things went so sour in 2014 was the internal corruption and nature of the Russian regime.