I'm not sure about that. Buggy is a warlord now :ninja:
Yeah, he's powered all the way up to the fearsome "warlord tier." :ninja:
I'm not sure about that. Buggy is a warlord now :ninja:
Yeah, he's powered all the way up to the fearsome "warlord tier." :ninja:
Surely you meant that he in his infinite kindness has been gracious enough to step down to the level of warlord.
Some things are better left unsaid, wolfwood. If the others knew the truth, it'd shatter their confidence.
Surely you meant that he in his infinite kindness has been gracious enough to step down to the level of warlord.
The same way he stepped down from the platform after escaping Impel Down and made his grande entrance onto that marine battleship :ninja:
Some things are better left unsaid, wolfwood. If the others knew the truth, it'd shatter their confidence.
There are no words to express the real truth about Buggy's confidence :whistling:
Some things are better left unsaid, wolfwood. If the others knew the truth, it'd shatter their confidence.
http://www.mangareader.net/134-7093-4/eyeshield-21/chapter-318.html
I am reminded of this. What should a man not blessed by the god's do when faced with the magnificence of Buggy.
sorry guys i know i am crazy ????!!!!
but what these letters and dark shot that i mark in red mean???
That panel got me thinking, isn't Hody supposed to have a dorsal fin, being a white shark?
That Buggy will be the person who creates the new era(spreading the OP) and becomes pirateking in the end should be clear by now…just look at all the foreshadowing Oda made.
But still right now Buggy shouldn`t be on an admiral level..we still have plenty of chapters to come and him surpassing others despite being weaker and without training is always a pleasure.
He does have one, just not seen there apparently.
He does have one, just not seen there apparently.
I think it's probably his hair covering it, it seems like his fin is fairly high up on his back/neck.
Hey guys, it just occurred to me that recently Oda skips the preparation phase when Luffy enters gear 2 or 3. There were no pumping blood to your legs and blowing your thumb thing. I am speculating that maybe post-timeskip Luffy don't need to do those anymore, and can activate these modes by just using his Haki, hence removing the drawbacks these gears have before. That might also explain why he can use gear 3 on the battle with Surume despite the lack of air. Just my 2 cents :)
Hey guys, it just occurred to me that recently Oda skips the preparation phase when Luffy enters gear 2 or 3. There were no pumping blood to your legs and blowing your thumb thing. I am speculating that maybe post-timeskip Luffy don't need to do those anymore, and can activate these modes by just using his Haki, hence removing the drawbacks these gears have before. That might also explain why he can use gear 3 on the battle with Surume despite the lack of air. Just my 2 cents :)
Not only that, but Luffy no longer seems to shrink after using gear 3, which is a big plus, IMO.
@Razzle:
So.. just thinking here… ignore it cause everyone else already realized what I'm about to say..
Enemy's - /Strawhats/Allies -
Hodi / Luffy
Van Der Decken/ Zoro
Hyouzou /Sanji
Dosun /Franky
Zeo / Robin
Icarus /Chopper
Daruma / Brook
Wadatsumi (maybe??) / Nami
/Usopp
/JinbeCharacters crossed out cause they are in a robot costume - Chopper, Usopp Nami
So if you minus Wadatsumi, every other character has an option for fighting currently... O man!!! Giant robot that will probably come next chapter vs. Wadatsumi ;) haha epic fights!!!
I think Sanji will fight VDD and Zoro will fight Hyouzou, It better happen cause I love seeing Zoro fighting an actual swordsman.
Hey guys, it just occurred to me that recently Oda skips the preparation phase when Luffy enters gear 2 or 3. There were no pumping blood to your legs and blowing your thumb thing. I am speculating that maybe post-timeskip Luffy don't need to do those anymore, and can activate these modes by just using his Haki, hence removing the drawbacks these gears have before. That might also explain why he can use gear 3 on the battle with Surume despite the lack of air. Just my 2 cents :)
I assume most of us noticed that already :P, we have been talking since he first used his attacks after the time skip, probably common knowladge at this point.
Guys Franky has to fight Daruma, I want him to smash that little thing, leave the big dood to someone else.
I thought it was already pretty clear Buggy was the "Mr.Saten" of One Piece.
@HTC:
Not only that, but Luffy no longer seems to shrink after using gear 3, which is a big plus, IMO.
Pre-TS Luffy shrinks because when he lets out the excessive air, he lets out more than he inhaled, thus he shrinks. If he doesnt shrink now, that must mean he can now control the air he lets out. And I can only think of one way to do that, blowing it through his ass. In other words, he farts big time after gear 3
no op this week :(
Can Buggy be a serious villain in the future? Or a seriously power character at all? I think that's Coby. Character-wise, I think it's just unlikely that Buggy will be on the serious side of the story at all.
When has one piece not been serious. Even Duval managed to capture Sanji for a short time. And mr 3 beat damn near the whole crew. Every threat is serious. Especially a shichibukai with a life grudge, muggy balls, notorious crewmembers and a former captain who has a df that makesher virtually untouchable.
Can Buggy be a serious villain in the future? Or a seriously power character at all? I think that's Coby. Character-wise, I think it's just unlikely that Buggy will be on the serious side of the story at all.
_That's old Buggy you're talking about. Buggy has crossed over that line now. It's over. No coming back. No holding back no more.
The new age has officially begun!!_
​-Buggy.
I wonder how Luffy came to his "hero = bad" theory. He seemed to enjoy being cheered at and called a hero at Whiskey Peak…
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Yahooo…
I wonder how Luffy came to his "hero = bad" theory. He seemed to enjoy being cheered at and called a hero at Whiskey Peak…
Yahooo…
Well if you want an explanation aside from, Oda hadn't decided Luffy didn't like being called a hero yet, then you can can say that Luffy didn't mind because the people just thought that all pirates were heroes but still probably expected them to behave like pirates, or something.
The difference here is that the people of Whiskey Peak (are pretending to) regard heroes and pirates as one of the same; in the case of the outlook of the people of Fishman Island, those two are probably very separate.
^ Ah yes, that's what I, in my less that articulate way, was trying to say.
I wonder how Luffy came to his "hero = bad" theory. He seemed to enjoy being cheered at and called a hero at Whiskey Peak…
Yahooo…
You mean the very same people than tried to ambush Luffy that same night.
For all we know, this is when he started not liking being called a hero :ninja:
You mean the very same people than tried to ambuse Luffy that same night.
For all we know, this is when he started not liking being called a hero :ninja:
Hahahahahah! That's the explanation I'm going with from now on!
Maybe being treated like a hero is different than being a hero. Or what Czechmate said.
Or better yet what Freedom said.
Can Buggy be a serious villain in the future? Or a seriously power character at all? I think that's Coby. Character-wise, I think it's just unlikely that Buggy will be on the serious side of the story at all.
If i recall correctly Oda once said in an interview that in his opinion , Buggy would be His personal "perfect" Villian.
@asm00200:
_That's old Buggy you're talking about. Buggy has crossed over that line now. It's over. No coming back. No holding back no more.
The new age has officially begun!!_
​-Buggy.Haha i wonder if buggy managed to actually power up in those 2 years , as a warlord i expect alot of him.. so we will see about that:P
From my understanding, the whole hero thing at Whiskey Peak was just a figure of speech.
If i recall correctly Oda once said in an interview that in his opinion , Buggy would be His personal "perfect" Villian.
I recall that he said "favorite villain". That means he liked him the best. Before ID, I think he left his fans confused on how Buggy was so great. It is all so clear now.
Caribou for nakama …..
Speaking of get ahead of ourselves, this is another statement I think is getting ahead of itself.
I think it's difficult to judge even now. We knew that WB was regarded as the strongest man in the world. However, we also learn that he was old and sick, and shouldn't have been fighting in the war. Now, let's add to that he was stabbed through the chest before he started fighting with any of the Admirals. WB was definitely fighting at a disadvantage, regardless of his status. Additionally, he was fighting multiple people at once, not just an admiral, but the entire marine army.
I completely agree, but I think of Whitebeard as a special case, since him being stronger than the other 3 yonkou is already given (being the strongest man) and it was necessary for him to be handicapped. I'm still hoping we are going to see a flashback with him demonstrating his strength during his prime, even If its just a little glimpse.
Maybe my statement was a little bold, lets just say that a single admiral could give every remaining yonkou a decent fight in a 1 vs 1 situation. Not equal, but I think the closest to the yonkou in strength.
If i recall correctly Oda once said in an interview that in his opinion , Buggy would be His personal "perfect" Villian.
I like Buggy as a character. But his "good" or "innocent" side is just too much for him to be a perfect villain. I think Coby has more reasons to be tyrannical against pirates in the future because of what he suffered.
After reading the whole arc from the beginning i have to say that 'till now it was very good.Not the best and not the worst.Somewhere in the middle.
Also in the last chapter i became pretty clear,for me at least,that Jimbei will join.The funny part of him has started appearing and also he fits very well in the big image with all the SHs.Also the tittle says a lot!I had my doubts but now i can clearly see that he will be joining 80%.
Finally i just remembered something.Luffy could use the elephant gun in the water just because of haki which leads me to the conclusion:could people with huge haki and great control of it(shanks)surround with it their whole body to swim even if they are DV users for short amounts of time?
I like Buggy as a character. But his "good" or "innocent" side is just too much for him to be a perfect villain.
What? and,
I think Coby has more reasons to be tyrannical against pirates in the future because of what he suffered.
What???
I like Buggy as a character. But his "good" or "innocent" side is just too much for him to be a perfect villain. I think Coby has more reasons to be tyrannical against pirates in the future because of what he suffered.
Sorry, me pellow Pilipino, but Coby is the character who stirred the Marineford war to stop. Why? Because, he didn't want anyone else die a pointless death.
Buggy has antagonized many, and with his current status as a Shichibukai, he would be a great threat.
Hey guys, it just occurred to me that recently Oda skips the preparation phase when Luffy enters gear 2 or 3.
He still bit his thumb before he used the elephant gun against Surume.
When has one piece not been serious. Even Duval managed to capture Sanji for a short time. And mr 3 beat damn near the whole crew. Every threat is serious. Especially a shichibukai with a life grudge, muggy balls, notorious crewmembers and a former captain who has a df that makesher virtually untouchable.
When Zoro made a joke out of the entire combined strength of Whiskey Peak by himself. The Mr 5 pair just added to the joke.
i just remembered something.Luffy could use the elephant gun in the water just because of haki which leads me to the conclusion:could people with huge haki and great control of it(shanks)surround with it their whole body to swim even if they are DV users for short amounts of time?
I doubt it since he said the sea was draining his power. Oda said somewhere that DF users would be ok until they were at least half submerged or so. Luffy subjected enough of his body to the sea that he started losing his strength after he used haki, so it didn't seem to be the answer.
@400MillionBelis:
Sorry, me pellow Pilipino, but Coby is the character who stirred the Marineford war to stop. Why? Because, he didn't want anyone else die a pointless death.
Buggy has antagonized many, and with his current status as a Shichibukai, he would be a great threat.
Hey, kababayan! :))
But that's precisely my point. Buggy as a character is too much on the comic side. That's why Oda can easily make him be an accidental hero of sorts in Impel Down. His association with Shanks is something of a friendly rivalry and it would be unimaginable for Buggy to develop into being a villain that would overshadow his innocent ties with Shanks, Luffy, Roger, etc. Think about it. Even if Oda exaggerates Buggy's ambitions as a pirate in search of a treasure, would he truly become a serious villain? I don't think so.
Now, you turn to Coby. Coby has all the elements of a character that can "turn to the dark side" because of his thirst for peace. With minimal efforts by Oda, Coby's character can turn from a peace-loving marine to a peace-imposing marine like the admirals. We saw how Coby almost snapped because of deaths around him. Later on in the story, when Coby becomes really powerful, he may turn cold-blooded in order to attain peace once and for all. That would give his character a genuine reason to seriously oppose Luffy. Thus, he gets the fight/challenge he wants and we get ourselves a seriously powerful villain with a solid reason to quash piracy.
Buggy doesn't have these qualities that can make him a serious villain. In fact, Buggy has all the qualities that can put him on the good side of things in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if a twist happens and he joins the Straw Hats someday.
@Moonwalkerwizzz Do you really think that Coby of all people could become a villain?
@Moonwalkerwizzz Do you really think that Coby of all people could become a villain?
Yes, I do think so. I even think as early as now, Oda's setting the foundations for his future character development. What would be the purpose of him awaking his haki if it won't be useful for future fights? I see Coby as a really important character in the future but I just don't see how he'll be important to the plot unless he becomes a serious opposition to Luffy.
We'll just agree to disagree on this one.
That's not a villain. It's a rival. An antagonist. Not a villain.
Coby is this generation's Garp.
That may be good on theory, but Coby was a nobody before the timeskip. Suddenly becoming a powerhouse would mean he made even more relative improvement than Luffy who was trained by the pirate king's right hand. Also take into account that Luffy is the son of Dragon (aren't I such an elitist :p). I thought Coby will forever be chasing after Luffy's shadow. And he will yet to realize his dreams of being an admiral only when Luffy is out of the picture.
Coby already had haki 2 years ago and he is now full-timed trained by Garp, since he retired. Yes he's going to be the Garp of this generation; the kind of guy that will prefer to stay at vice-Admiral level (even if his dream was to become Admiral) if it allows him to continue chasing after pirates like Luffy. What he is really looking for is not to become an Admiral, what he wants is to become a hero from the marine, a marine of honor. Exactly like Garp. That's also why Garp chose him to start with.
Exactly … I really don't understand the "Coby will be a villain theory" it's even less likely than Caribou joining the SHs.
About the Buggy being Shichibukai discussion: Maybe Buggy also fooled the World Government into thinking he is a great pirate? ;D Who knows, I for one, would like a nice comedic twist like that. People saying he's too much of a good guy to be a Shichibukai also seem to forget that Boa Hancock and Bartholemew Kuma are also good guys.
Obviously Luffy wouldn't fight Buggy (unless he immensely powered up during timeskip and is a real threat) but a loser as part of Shichibukai would be awesome. He would have to constantly try and prove himself to the rest of the Shichibukais like during the Impel Down Arc and Marineford. Which makes me think Doflamingo vs Buggy would be a cool fight. :).
Anyways, got off topic but relevant to current discussions as for this new chapter… I was kind of disappointed because I was so hyped after the chapter prior to this one... D: kind of sad that we don't see hardcore crew action. I guess I can wait until next week.
Smoker is the one who will be equivalent to Garp because he has been after luffy from the East Blue.
That may be good on theory, but Coby was a nobody before the timeskip. Suddenly becoming a powerhouse would mean he made even more relative improvement than Luffy who was trained by the pirate king's right hand. Also take into account that Luffy is the son of Dragon (aren't I such an elitist :p). I thought Coby will forever be chasing after Luffy's shadow. And he will yet to realize his dreams of being an admiral only when Luffy is out of the picture.
And What? He made more relative improvement than Luffy till now. And he is training under Garp, a powerhouse just like Rayleigh. Don't forget that Garp isn't a Marine anymore. He's job is to train the marines. At the moment, he has enough time to focus on Coby's training.
Edit: I wouldn’t' be surprised if he is near as strong as a vice admiral after the time skip. And I'm pretty sure he is taller than Luffy by now.
And What? He made more relative improvement than Luffy till now. And he is training under Garp, a powerhouse just like Rayleigh. Don't forget that Garp isn't a Marine anymore. He's job is to train the marines. At the moment, he has enough time to focus on Coby's training.
Edit: I wouldn’t' be surprised if he is near as strong as a vice admiral after the time skip. And I'm pretty sure he is taller than Luffy by now.
Was it anywhere stated that Garp still trains Coby?
Was it anywhere stated that Garp still trains Coby?
Indirectly
Indirectly
Thank you for the digging.
While I don't value the strength of Vice-Admirals that much, I doubt they would appoint a youngster like Coby (no matter how strong he is now). All current Vice-Admirals appear to be in their 40's, experience of life is probably a necessity in order to be considered.