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    • Monkey King
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      I agree with that. We really need to fix our government

      Voting for Trump is voting for breaking it.

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        @Monkey:

        Voting for Trump is voting for breaking it.

        I believe we should break it and start fixing it again to make it good as new. My ideas may be flawed however sometimes things like this needs to happen.

        Currently writing a book

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          @joekido:

          I believe we should break it and start fixing it again to make it good as new. My ideas may be flawed however sometimes things like this needs to happen.

          Like when?

          I mean, do you just up and total your car so you can fix and make it "good as new"?

          Or are you arguing that we need to totally dismantle and rebuild our government?

          [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
          I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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            Turns out joekido is an accelerationist, go figure.

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              Turns out joekido is an accelerationist, go figure.

              I think I'll take that.

              Currently writing a book

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                Does anyone else just suddenly not care about any of this? I feel like all the limited energy I had for anything political was just sapped on Tuesday.

                Gonna give ya the D.!

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                  Cause you dont believe Biden can wipe Trump's ass.

                  He's going to, but first he has to kiss a lot of very young girls

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                    Cause you dont believe Biden can wipe Trump's ass.

                    He's going to, but first he has to kiss a lot of very young girls

                    It's not that. I'll still vote for biden in November, I'm just not excited about any of this anymore.

                    Gonna give ya the D.!

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                      It's not that. I'll still vote for biden in November, I'm just not excited about any of this anymore.

                      As long as you're voting against Trump, all is peachy.

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                        It's not that. I'll still vote for biden in November, I'm just not excited about any of this anymore.

                        I mean, the election itself is still eight months away. This past Tuesday pretty much decided Biden as the Democratic nominee, so there's not much else to do other than what and see what develops between now and November (and watch the debates and stuff when we get close to the election).

                        [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                        I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                          @andre:

                          As long as you're voting against Trump, all is peachy.

                          I would never. I despise the man on a personal level.

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                          @Nobodyman:

                          I mean, the election itself is still eight months away. This past Tuesday pretty much decided Biden as the Democratic nominee, so there's not much else to do other than what and see what develops between now and November (and watch the debates and stuff when we get close to the election).

                          What develops between now and then is dementia, lol.

                          Gonna give ya the D.!

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                            Does anyone else just suddenly not care about any of this? I feel like all the limited energy I had for anything political was just sapped on Tuesday.

                            Yeah, I know exactly how you feel.

                            I'll still vote for Bernie in the primary but the whole "political revolution" balloon deflated pretty fast.

                            https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913949065446850590/964418994973073479/RPReplay_Final1650004792.mov

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                              Yeah, I know exactly how you feel.

                              Oh well, nothing to do about it but wait til November I suppose. Unless something major happens.

                              Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                Does anyone else just suddenly not care about any of this? I feel like all the limited energy I had for anything political was just sapped on Tuesday.

                                Your preferred candidate geing annihilated by someone whose strategy is literally to do absolutely fucking nothing can be pretty disheartening

                                Best case scenario is Warren or some other progressive becomes VP and then when Biden has declined mentally too much that person can kind of be a left Dick Cheney. Not likely though.

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                                  Here's a source for that as well.

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-gun-votes-are-again-potential-liability-among-democratic-base-n999326

                                  Interesting how Bernie's supporters are fine with him evolving on a subject where he held totally opposite opinions only only a couple of years ago while simultaneously talking up things that Biden said decades ago and that Joe has himself changed on since.

                                  Good lord do you not know the half of it.

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                                  I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                    Biden belongs in a old folks not getting ready for a election campaign where Trump gonna mauled him.

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                                      Yes, because we all know what a virile specimen of perfect physical and mental health Donald Trump is.

                                      Complicating things since 2009.

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                                        Yes, because we all know what a virile specimen of perfect physical and mental health Donald Trump is.

                                        The fact that Bernie had a heart attack while trumpy hasn't still boggles my mind.

                                        Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                          Yes, because we all know what a virile specimen of perfect physical and mental health Donald Trump is.

                                          More so than Biden it's painful watching him "speak". Trump's gonna bully him I already feel sorry for the guy.

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                                            Trump was going to bully whoever the nominee ended up to be, what matter is the burns, and Biden has plenty of mateial to roast him

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                                              The fact that Bernie had a heart attack while trumpy hasn't still boggles my mind.

                                              Trump has had at least two major medical incidents while in office that were both covered up. Badly covered, but covered all the same

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                                                @Robby:

                                                Trump has had at least two major medical incidents while in office that were both covered up. Badly covered, but covered all the same

                                                Nothing debilitating, unfortunately. Physically he doesn't seem any worse for wear so I don't imagine they were anything too severe.

                                                Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                                  It's not that. I'll still vote for biden in November, I'm just not excited about any of this anymore.

                                                  Get involved and interested on down ticket races.

                                                  Your state is a former blue state that has been under brutal siege in recent times. Fight for that shit. It was one of the reason's Trump won in 2016.

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                                                    @Monkey:

                                                    Get involved and interested on down ticket races.

                                                    Your state is a former blue state that has been under brutal siege in recent times. Fight for that shit. It was one of the reason's Trump won in 2016.

                                                    It might sound stupid to you, but I have a severe anxiety disorder that makes it difficult to even leave the house. I'm going to have to mentally prepare myself quite a bit just to vote in November, and that was when I was actually excited about doing it. I can't just…do things that involve interpersonal contact, I'm afraid.

                                                    Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                                      More so than Biden it's painful watching him "speak". Trump's gonna bully him I already feel sorry for the guy.

                                                      The people who are convinced that Joe has dementia (he doesn't and if you know what dementia actually looks like it's really fucked up that people are accusing him of it) are also convinced that Trump is a great witty master of words, jesus goddamn christ.

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                                                        The fact that Bernie had a heart attack while trumpy hasn't still boggles my mind.

                                                        There was that time he was mysteriously rushed to the hospital back in November.

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                                                          If anything Biden will look less doddering and old by being next to Trump on stage.

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                                                            @RoboBlue:

                                                            There was that time he was mysteriously rushed to the hospital back in November.

                                                            But we'll never know what that was about. It certainly doesn't seem like it was anything substantial.

                                                            Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                                              @Cyan:

                                                              The people who are convinced that Joe has dementia (he doesn't and if you know what dementia actually looks like it's really fucked up that people are accusing him of it) are also convinced that Trump is a great witty master of words, jesus goddamn christ.

                                                              I'm not a doctor, but three people in my family have had dementia and I can say that every case presents a little differently and largely depends on the individual's personality.

                                                              However… I'm not really sure what's wrong with Joe Biden.

                                                              There's definitely something abnormal happening to his mind; if you compare clips of him speaking from a few years ago to now you'll see that he didn't selfdestruct in the middle of a sentence back then.
                                                              His temper's also much worse, or he's at least far less capable of restraining himself as we saw in his exchange with Corey Booker.
                                                              His campaign staff are clearly aware of the problem because they've sought to minimize his public statements and overall on-camera speaking time ever since.

                                                              It could be argued that some of his weirder stories (like the one about little kids feeling up his legs and how much he likes it when they sit on him) are also evidence of that lack of restraint.

                                                              That speech also shows that he sometimes has a tendency to forget to complete sentences and repeatedly change subject mid-sentence, which is not typical of dementia in my experience.

                                                              That's not just a stutter.
                                                              I don't see how we can confidently expect him to lead the country in any meaningful way or even function outside of a retirement home, which leads me to assume that his vice president will be taking the reigns the vast majority of the time.

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                                                              If anything Biden will look less doddering and old by being next to Trump on stage.

                                                              It probably depends on how long Biden has to speak for.
                                                              On a good day he can get out several minutes of valid political commentary and sound like a real leader before things start to deteriorate. Give him a good number of breaks and he can last maybe an hour, as he did during one of the recent debates.

                                                              I have no idea if there's any way to predict or influence the factors that decide if he's having a good or bad mental health day, though.

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                                                                Yeah Robo, but what would you vote for?

                                                                Someone who randomly forgets his sentences

                                                                Someone who always remembers his mild racist sentences

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                                                                  @RoboBlue:

                                                                  His temper's also much worse, or he's at least far less capable of restraining himself as we saw in his exchange with Corey Booker.

                                                                  He's been hounded a lot over the significance of his son, Hunter Biden, being allowed to be on the board of directors of Burisma in Ukraine. An issue that may only flare up should he get the democratic nomination to campaign against Trump in the general. Biden gets extremely apprehensive whenever anyone goes after his family.

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                                                                    @Monquito:

                                                                    Yeah Robo, but what would you vote for?

                                                                    Someone who randomly forgets his sentences

                                                                    Someone who always remembers his mild racist sentences

                                                                    Is that even a legitimate question? You don't vote for the racist period. I'd rather have "grandpa forgets his name" than "let's build a wall around our country to keep out all the scawwy brown people" every day of the week.

                                                                    Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                                                      Is that even a legitimate question? You don't vote for the racist period. I'd rather have "grandpa forgets his name" than "let's build a wall around our country to keep out all the scawwy brown people" every day of the week.

                                                                      Is not only a regular question.
                                                                      Its THE question.

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                                                                        FYI guys, some Trump campaign operative made a fake Biden website:
                                                                        https://www.newsweek.com/fake-biden-campaign-website-being-run-secretly-trump-campaign-operative-report-1446693?fbclid=IwAR1vwEIcsuYfOI6Wmez3LrRZIdveOv0MZoYpRMbig28sE0zHeujZXOKsSC4

                                                                        It's had more visitors than Biden's real website. :getlost:

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                                                                          Economy looks to crap itself tomorrow.

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                                                                            @Monquito:

                                                                            Yeah Robo, but what would you vote for?

                                                                            Someone who randomly forgets his sentences

                                                                            Someone who always remembers his mild racist sentences

                                                                            There's no question that I'd vote for Biden if he wins, and it looks like he will.

                                                                            I'm just refuting the claim that the criticisms of Biden's mental fitness are baseless.

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                                                                              Economy looks to crap itself tomorrow.

                                                                              At this point, it seems a pretty good chance the Dow will plunge so much the circuit breakers will kick in.

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                                                                              Woof, stock futures are already halted after the first circuit breaker was tripped. Oil futures are collapsing after OPEC talks break down, the peso is falling off a cliff, the Japanese economy contracted by 7% last quarter and its stock market is getting hit hard, ten year US Treasury yields are at half a percent, Australia looks to be heading for a recession, Italy is shutting down Lombardy as a coronavirus measure, and the US has almost no resources to combat a recession because of the tax cut a few years ago.

                                                                              Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                                The media will protect Trump despite him saying he will let people die to protect the economy and his approval numbers.

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                                                                                  But Mexico City colored itself in purple ❤

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                                                                                    @Monquito:

                                                                                    But Mexico City colored itself in purple ❤

                                                                                    Not to be rude, but what significance does that have? Is it for a holiday or something?

                                                                                    Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                                                                      Not to be rude, but what significance does that have? Is it for a holiday or something?

                                                                                      March 8th it's international women's day, but march 9th will be an historic and unprecedented event actually

                                                                                      And is happening cause of this bullcrap

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                                                                                        March 8th it's international women's day, but march 9th will be an historic and unprecedented event actually

                                                                                        And is happening cause of this bullcrap

                                                                                        I don't really understand all that, but I wish them luck in that strike or whatever. Seems like it's a big deal.

                                                                                        Gonna give ya the D.!

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                                                                                          The media will protect Trump despite him saying he will let people die to protect the economy and his approval numbers.

                                                                                          CNN and MSNBC are shit channels, but not for the reasons you seem to think.

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                                                                                            CNN and MSNBC are shit channels, but not for the reasons you seem to think.

                                                                                            How much time has been devoted to the Trump admin intentionally botching the corona virus response (and Trump admitting so) to protect his reelection chances? This is the real story and something cable news had no problem hammering Obama on in 2014 with ebola (when it was a manufactured controversy). He’s gonna get away with this like he got away with intentionally botching Maria relief.

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                                                                                              How much time has been devoted to the Trump admin intentionally botching the corona virus response (and Trump admitting so) to protect his reelection chances? This is the real story and something cable news had no problem hammering Obama on in 2014 with ebola (when it was a manufactured controversy). He’s gonna get away with this like he got away with intentionally botching Maria relief.

                                                                                              They're talking about it so much that they're talking less about the worst single drop in a day on stock market record lol.
                                                                                              Right now they're covering an empty podium on CNN and talking about Trump maybe coming out to talk like he's an agoraphobic eight year old.
                                                                                              Also shat on Pence a bunch because of his record in Indiana.

                                                                                              I also don't remember Obama getting all that much crap at all for Ebola.

                                                                                              So in the general sense: What are you even talking about?

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                                                                                                I appreciate these complaints, cause I've stopped watching most cable news years ago. I wouldn't mind if they all died out, and frankly considering their audience seems to be all of the elderly, I feel like that could happen in my lifetime.

                                                                                                Also, I admit that if a market crash had to happen, I'm glad that it happened before the general election instead of after it. Here's hoping for the best.

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                                                                                                  Am I a monster for kind of being happy with the Covid-19 outbreak and market crash? It's the only way how Trump can actually lose this thing to Biden now.

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                                                                                                    Yeah MSNBC and CNN are definitely not Pro Trump channels

                                                                                                    That would be Fox News

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                                                                                                      @DoctorPhil:

                                                                                                      Am I a monster for kind of being happy with the Covid-19 outbreak and market crash? It's the only way how Trump can actually lose this thing to Biden now.

                                                                                                      As an actual adult who is having his retirement savings wiped out by this second market crash in a decade, yes, you're kind of a monster.

                                                                                                      It's fine to want things to damage Trump, for which there are literally hundreds of personal scandals and illegal things he's done that only affect him and criminals. You can cheer for those things to catch up to him.

                                                                                                      its not good to be happy about things that ruin millions of lives, destroy markets, and kill people.

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                                                                                                        I mean more of in a subconcious way though. Just lost my mother a few weeks ago so of course I can sympethize with and aren't happy about all the deaths, but there is a sort of silver lining relief of "well holy shit Trump might actually be out now".

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