Good chapter with a lot of information about Dressrosa and its history.
Chapter 726 "The Riku Family"
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Man….......that was disappointing. 2 weeks to pretty much be told what we already knew. That toy soldier was Rebecca's father..............yawn
I was hoping for some more flamingo/law or at least the conclusion of D-Block...............oh well, I guess things are moving in the right direction.............
Shame we couldn't even get a bit more interaction between Barto and Luffy............
Well there are always chapters like this one. Why?
In one chapter those uncertain things have to be confirmed. Get over it and look forward to the next chapter.
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Thanks for the script ! ^^
@Al!naJames:
So are we not gonna talk about how Donquixote the ancestor looks exactly like Blackbeard…
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4784/lcnx.jpgI wonder if Oda completely ran out of character designs at this point or?..
LOL. Pretty similar. I remember a enthusiastic Dofla in marineford arc when Teach appeared.
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Not that Oda isn't a good mangaka, but using clear backgrounds is something they likely learn in Drawing 101. Kubo and shojo artists use it quiet often.
What does that sound effect stand for? Gritting hands?
It might be this one, a tap tap sound: http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/tan/
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Yea this chapter was a snooze fest. And the final reveal….something we figured out 4 chapters ago...
Next time.
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Hate to say this, but wow, in this chapter Oda surely outdid himself with the stupid Marxism. So, because the Tontatta 'people' (who probably are not alive anymore) were slaves, their descendants now are legally allowed to STEAL from people who do not have anything to do with it? And on top of that, we should understand this to be a good,righteous thing? Wow, just wow. Makes Hody Jones look positivitely reasonable.
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Is there a reason they wouldn't want to save the princess, even if they know she is the toy maker?
I'm not following you.You're the one not making sense here.
If the Dwarves knew the princess was the toy maker, they would've mentioned it to the Straw Hats.
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The hell? It wasn't supposed to be a big twist or anything. Oda's built up the relationship with Rebecca and the Toy Soldier all arc. This chapter just confirms a lot of things. I don't understand how people can complain so much about this arc. It's a godsend after Fishman Island and Punk Hazard.
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You're the one not making sense here.
If the Dwarves knew the princess was the toy maker, they would've mentioned it to the Straw Hats.
If you've been reading my posts, you'll see that I'm saying that perhaps they all know who the toy maker is and are simply not mentioning it for some important reason. Maybe they aren't even sure of her status, whether she has turned bad or not, etc.
Sorry if I'm offending you or something. Just trying to back up my argument, which isn't (IMHO) completely baseless.
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I guess the point I am trying to make is that we've had little to no exposition at all about both sides involved in the dwarf abduction: We don't know anything about how they were abducted. We also don't know who was abducted aside from the princess. Furthermore, we hardly know anything about Doflamingo's family and the powers of its members.
Clearly, this leaves a lot of things up in the air. Plenty of room for interpretation. One of the reasons that I'm wildly speculating.
Also, what little dialogue we have had about the princess has been extremely shady. Leo had good and bad things to say about her. I think it's pretty clear that something is going on with the princess, and I wouldn't put it past Oda to write another Arlong-Nami-esque scenario here.
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The dwarves know the powers of Doflamingo's high ranking officers and haven't told the SH what they are. Only that they know their powers. We'll probably get the powers infodump when the actual factory attack starts. The princess isn't the toymaker. Doflamingo brought the toy DF user with him before he came to island.
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Phoenix, read all my posts (page 14 of this thread has most of the key points). I think it's still plausible, given all you are saying, that the princess is the toy maker.
But, I don't really have an interest in starting a huge debate. Just postulating.
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lol at little-sanji smoking.
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Nice chapter. A Solid informative chapter which was well put, P.S we got some comedy on the last page, so I'll give it a 5 star.
Other than from the obvious, that Viola girl, King Riku is talking about is definitely Violet, and I guess it's pretty much obvious why. First the name matches. Second, Tank is watching over viola in the Donquixote while being in the Donquixote family and violet is(now was) too in the don family. So king is concerned about violet, that means she is a relative to him and Rebecca. Also Violet destroyed the screen where the watchers were bad mouthing Rebecca, so it further proves that they are relatives or some(can't be sisters).
Hack has some common sense I'd say. Kept a den den mushi with him. -.-
And also, more things from the void century marked for later. I guess that what happened to dwarves in void century would be revealed when Robin would read Rio poneglyph. Those guys in the ancient kingdom might have written something about the past of donquixote family too(about other 20 families too I guess).
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Hate to say this, but wow, in this chapter Oda surely outdid himself with the stupid Marxism. So, because the Tontatta 'people' (who probably are not alive anymore) were slaves, their descendants now are legally allowed to STEAL from people who do not have anything to do with it? And on top of that, we should understand this to be a good,righteous thing?
That's not Marxism, it barely even resembles Marxism.
Additionally, it's a weird system of redistribution, but the people live in a monarchy: the king makes the rules about who owns what. Given that the wealth and prosperity everyone was enjoying was created by the enslavement of the Tontatta, it's not unreasonable for their descendants (who were unjustly deprived of their rightful inheritance) to enjoy the fruits of their labor. It's not exactly what I'd call "optimal", but it's not really that different from kings granting landed titles by decree.
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Oh that Oda and his insidious commie propaganda
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This does actually raise an interesting point though, which is why the first Riku king did what he did (freeing them and giving them Green Bit).
I mean, it looks like there are only a few thousand Dwarves in total. The only way a country could get as wealthy as he implied off their labor was if they were dozens of times more effective than an average man (which would make sense given how strong they are). Wouldn't it have been better to say "Hey guys, how about we pay you large amounts of money and greatly improve your working conditions, since you are so much stronger than the average human?" That way the country keeps being (slightly less) rich and the Dwarves get to have their freedom along with a homeland that would consider them incredibly valuable to have around, as opposed to one they have to hide from and steal from to survive.
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I suspect that the dwarves only had to hide once Doffy came back into the picture.
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This does actually raise an interesting point though, which is why the first Riku king did what he did (freeing them and giving them Green Bit).
I mean, it looks like there are only a few thousand Dwarves in total. The only way a country could get as wealthy as he implied off their labor was if they were dozens of times more effective than an average man (which would make sense given how strong they are). Wouldn't it have been better to say "Hey guys, how about we pay you large amounts of money and greatly improve your working conditions, since you are so much stronger than the average human?" That way the country keeps being (slightly less) rich and the Dwarves get to have their freedom along with a homeland that would consider them incredibly valuable to have around, as opposed to one they have to hide from and steal from to survive.
Maybe since the dwarves had been mistreated in every previous contact they had with humans, they and the king thought it would be better for them to remain hidden as "fairies", instead of being taken advantage again one day.
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This does actually raise an interesting point though, which is why the first Riku king did what he did (freeing them and giving them Green Bit).
I mean, it looks like there are only a few thousand Dwarves in total. The only way a country could get as wealthy as he implied off their labor was if they were dozens of times more effective than an average man (which would make sense given how strong they are). Wouldn't it have been better to say "Hey guys, how about we pay you large amounts of money and greatly improve your working conditions, since you are so much stronger than the average human?" That way the country keeps being (slightly less) rich and the Dwarves get to have their freedom along with a homeland that would consider them incredibly valuable to have around, as opposed to one they have to hide from and steal from to survive.
The number you're looking for is 8000: "Usoland's" followers :ninja:
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This does actually raise an interesting point though, which is why the first Riku king did what he did (freeing them and giving them Green Bit).
I mean, it looks like there are only a few thousand Dwarves in total. The only way a country could get as wealthy as he implied off their labor was if they were dozens of times more effective than an average man (which would make sense given how strong they are). Wouldn't it have been better to say "Hey guys, how about we pay you large amounts of money and greatly improve your working conditions, since you are so much stronger than the average human?" That way the country keeps being (slightly less) rich and the Dwarves get to have their freedom along with a homeland that would consider them incredibly valuable to have around, as opposed to one they have to hide from and steal from to survive.
Because he is a good guy who is a king. It's like Neptune giving all his country teasure to pirate rather than just give them a feast. They overexagerate on how to repay people. Making such guilllible people continue to work even for money most likely sounded like abusing them for the king.
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I suspect that the dwarves only had to hide once Doffy came back into the picture.
DD probably knew of the dwarves before he came to Dressrosa.
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@MJR.:
DD probably knew of the dwarves before he came to Dressrosa.
Of course he did.
The dwarves have to hide now to evade his minions. For whatever reason, Doffy has stopped targeting them directly.edit: Like, maybe he has them between a rock and a hard place? Maybe he abducted their princess and forced her to join his family and work as their toy maker? This would divide the Tontatta's feelings about rescuing the princess, ensuring that whatever resistance they would ultimately show would come in the way it currently is. Doffy is a criminal mastermind, so this all could be part of his plan.
Just my opinion(s), I may be crazy.
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Wouldn't it have been better to say "Hey guys, how about we pay you large amounts of money and greatly improve your working conditions, since you are so much stronger than the average human?" That way the country keeps being (slightly less) rich and the Dwarves get to have their freedom along with a homeland that would consider them incredibly valuable to have around, as opposed to one they have to hide from and steal from to survive.
Given the history of being exploited by the residents of Dressrosa, and the fact that being gullible seems to be a species-wide trait of the Dwarves, it's easy to foresee that a naive integration would likely result in similar abuses in the future. I can definitely see why a wise and benevolent king might not go for such a solution. The solution he went with might have merely been what he saw as the best of a set of not-particularly-attractive options. It pretty much guarantees people can't just take advantage of the Dwarves, and the Dwarves are small and (seemingly) good natured (and gullible), so the impact of their 'theft' is likely to be pretty trivial (especially as the human population seems to me to be much larger in number than the Dwarven population).
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Anybody else think that Hack is a part of the Revolutionary Army?
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@Red:
Anybody else think that Hack is a part of the Revolutionary Army?
Myself I'm on the "he is a marine" bandwagon.
But only the future will tell if one of us is right,or if both of us are wrong. :V -
Myself I'm on the "he is a marine" bandwagon.
But only the future will tell if one of us is right,or if both of us are wrong. :VA marine and a friend of Jinbe? Hmm.
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Myself I'm on the "he is a marine" bandwagon.
But only the future will tell if one of us is right,or if both of us are wrong. :VWhat If Jack send him to investigate, he has to make his move sooner or later
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@NER:
A marine and a friend of Jinbe? Hmm.
What If Jack send him to investigate, he has to make his move sooner or later
It's more on the line that we don't have a fishman as a marine, so is more of a wishfull thinking.
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I would imagine after this episode, the next will revolve either on Group D, Law vs Doflamingo (maybe just show the ending, I'd prefer to see everything) or both. Oda covered a lot of ground in this episode showing what most parties are doing at this point in time.
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Wait, I just realized something. Does Dold talking about Viola imply that he's actually talking about Violet and if so, what does that imply? Is she a friend of the family? Is she a blood relative? Is she… dare I say... REBECCA'S SISTER?! But nah, I think it's too early to tell what she is in relation to the Riku family (even implying she's involved with them at all in the first place), but the fact that Dold talked about a "Viola" and the fact that Violet has connections in the World Government, as well as the scene where she shot the video monitor after people were booing at Rebecca is making me connect things.
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Not sure if anyone thought of this, but maybe Kinemon, Momonosuke, Kanjuro and another unknown samurai went to Zou (or Zo) in a similar reason to Happou's navy reason going to DR ? it's pure speculationa nd that includes assuming that Wano has a similar problem (maybe not the same scale as Kano) and they have suspected Zou but luckily they drifted to the source? Or maybe Zou has a part of the solution ? (either Kaido's favorite island as someone mentioned or another of Kaido's / DD islands that has a central role). Though i might be wrong and Zou just has the bits of the next arc (that maybe tie with the conflict of this one)
and i can't get over Sanji smoking at that young age. >_>
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I'm under the assumption that Trebol isn't dripping slime, but maybe it's a plastic substance used to mold the toys?
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I'm under the assumption that Trebol isn't dripping slime, but maybe it's a plastic substance used to mold the toys?
Some of the toys are clearly wooden so nu-uh.
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@Monkey:
Some of the toys are clearly wooden so nu-uh.
Personally, I'm half expecting the process of turning people into toys isn't even DF related, but some sort of machine. The whole process IS supposed to take place inside of a factory, after all; maybe the same factory that's turning out artificial DFs also produces some sort of machine that transforms people into toys.
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Personally, I'm half expecting the process of turning people into toys isn't even DF related, but some sort of machine. The whole process IS supposed to take place inside of a factory, after all; maybe the same factory that's turning out artificial DFs also produces some sort of machine that transforms people into toys.
One Piece is semi-realistic, that would just be completely nonsensical.
Remember when people were saying the toys were literally just a species of living toys? Yeah no.
Think science fiction when you're thinking One Piecem devil fruits aside. -
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One Piece is semi-realistic, that would just be completely nonsensical.
Remember when people were saying the toys were literally just a species of living toys? Yeah no.
Think science fiction when you're thinking One Piecem devil fruits aside.Fair enough, it's just I'd kind of hate it to have every unnatural thing in One Piece to ultimately devolve into a DF power. I'm not saying Oda is doing this, I just think that if any other author did this, it would be considered a form of lazy writing.
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Fair enough, it's just I'd kind of hate it to have every unnatural thing in One Piece to ultimately devolve into a DF power. I'm not saying Oda is doing this, I just think that if any other author did this, it would be considered a form of lazy writing.
There's a fuckton of bizarre shit in One Piece that isn't devil fruit related.
If you mean purely magic things, I can't think of a single negative about it being just Devil Fruits. It's a neat structured way of applying internal rules to the series. It makes One Piece way more beliveable as a world. It would be stupid to have random magic things in the series. This isn't Final Fantasy here.
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OP has been fairly consistent in maintaining its own rules (thank goodness it has a pretty broad set of rules which makes it easier to write for) but one damn thing that ALWAYS bothered me is Klaubatterman (or however you spell it). That seems like an exception of a really magic sort of thing that occurred in OP. Other than that, can't think of anything that wouldn't be explained by OP's internal rules.
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Isn't color trap magic?
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hypnotism…whereas Jango's powers came from a mushroom.
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hypnotism…whereas Jango's powers came from a mushroom.
Hypnotism from paint?
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With the king of the Flower country force to ask the Happou navy to destroy the weapon factory can we assume that this country isn't a member of the WG? I suppose that if they were they should be able to make the government revoke his title by revealing his identify as Joker.
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hypnotism…whereas Jango's powers came from a mushroom.
did it really? shit, the amount of time i've reread the series and missed that :-(…where was it said?
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did it really? shit, the amount of time i've reread the series and missed that :-(…where was it said?
Don't worry, you didn't miss anything from the story, that info is from an SBS. Basically stated that the thing on his chin is a mushroom and he ate half of it and it gave him hypnotic powers.
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did it really? shit, the amount of time i've reread the series and missed that :-(…where was it said?
Ya it's in the SBS. I suggest reading it too. It's funny and can inform you about a lot of the things you probably missed when you read over it.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBSThere's also a lot of random canon facts in there as well. Like telling you about the characters birthdays to showing schematics of what the Thousand Sunny looks like and it's features.
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OP has been fairly consistent in maintaining its own rules (thank goodness it has a pretty broad set of rules which makes it easier to write for) but one damn thing that ALWAYS bothered me is Klaubatterman (or however you spell it). That seems like an exception of a really magic sort of thing that occurred in OP. Other than that, can't think of anything that wouldn't be explained by OP's internal rules.
This is why I'm waiting for the reveal of some ancient D. who once ate the Fune Fune no Mi and was turned into an immortal spirit that split itself among every ship that ever was or will be.
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Ya it's in the SBS. I suggest reading it too. It's funny and can inform you about a lot of the things you probably missed when you read over it.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBSThere's also a lot of random canon facts in there as well. Like telling you about the characters birthdays to showing schematics of what the Thousand Sunny looks like and it's features.
yea, ive read most of the SBS, missed a few of the earlier volumes tho i suppose.
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^ Or it could be like a living will left behind by a long dead Color of the Conqueror user that resonates with other such users and can manifest as a spirit or some such thing. It would be cool if Oda's got some internally consistent explanation for that phenomenon.
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Right. Haki is another viable route for wacky, seemingly inconsistent constructs, given that it's essentially non-DF magic with tons of applications (not all of which have necessarily been fully explored yet).
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Guys, you shouldn't forget that we HAVE seen magical stuff that had nothing to do with DFs. In addition to the Klabautermann, we had the fortune telling in FI, as well as the voices of inanimate objects. The way I see it, Trebol could very well just be a slime person with a toy DF.