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Meh, not sure if I am burned out on Egghead and my expectations for Vegapunks speech, but I don't feel this chapter.
So Redon thinks the last person, who is shaded on the last page is Shanks brother?
The sword silhouette looks similar to Shanks Gryphon, but that's it nothing more nothing less. I could see that turning out to be true, maybe his brother isn't a deadbeat dad and pays child support for his children.
Bonney's part was a bit touching, but what got me really excited was seeing Skypia, Kuma, King and Pudding and there importance for the story moving forward.
King seems to be fine, but where is he? It doesn't seem like he is being experimented on or in custody at least he's not behind bars like Pudding.
I wonder if each faction who is gunning for the One Piece will get their hands on one of those races. Its also not a battle between the emperors anymore its a battle royal with all people going for the One Piece, but why are Dragon and Sabo split, don't they share the same goal and is there a split within the Revolutionary Army itself, maybe Dragon truly is a hardliner and Sabo might be more forgiving?
I might need to reread the whole of Egghead or at least Vegapunks speech to truly appreciate the implications for the story moving forward.
Eggheads end must be around the corner, Saturn falling into the water will this be the death of the first Elder, or will he be summoned back to Marijoa?
Just repeating what I wrote in the spoiler thread:
Man, this chapter falls flat for me. Sorry, but can't help it.
To start in a positive, Bonney's finishing off Saturn is the kind of thing that should elevate such moments. The small flashbacks, Vegapunk's narration over it, the action panels, Kuma smiling slightly at the end, everything screams: "This is the end of the fight! Danger is over!". It's nicely done.
HOWEVER, at no moment Saturn feels like a threat. He can't hit anyone, he can't dodge, he can't fight. He's just there, being ineffective and incompetent as he has been all arc. A punchbag that must be there just due for the obligatory final strike and not because he must be defeated at all costs. And that ruins the moment for me, it's exactly what made this arc's action mostly unbearable.
The later half of the chapter is just a glorified trailer for the final saga that adds nothing new. I can't look at the final two pages and feel hyped. The broadcast has gone for too long without any meaningful revelations. I get it, Vegapunk's riling up the world with what are big revelations for the people out there, but for readers it's effectively just retreading known ground and repeating beats like Whitebeard's "One Piece is real" or Doflamingo's "inauguration speech" at the end of Dressrosa, except those speeches were done much better and didn't require 8 chapters (after another 5 chapters of teasing) to tell their messages.
The broadcast started good with the sunk world and Ancient Weapon info, but then became just a tease. We had to wait so we can wait some more.
This is a fitting climax for an arc that wasted time hunting snails or setting up escalations that were effortlessly defused, while at the same time rushing meaningful moments and off-screening important action beats.
@The-Light-of-Shandora said in Chapter 1121: The upheaval of the era:
Meh, not sure if I am burned out on Egghead and my expectations for Vegapunks speech, but I don't feel this chapter.
So Redon thinks the last person, who is shaded on the last page is Shanks brother?
The sword silhouette looks similar to Shanks Gryphon, but that's it nothing more nothing less. I could see that turning out to be true, maybe his brother isn't a deadbeat dad and pays child support for his children.
Bonney's part was a bit touching, but what got me really excited was seeing Skypia, Kuma, King and Pudding and there importance for the story moving forward.
King seems to be fine, but where is he? It doesn't seem like he is being experimented on or in custody at least he's not behind bars like Pudding.I wonder if each faction who is gunning for the One Piece will get their hands on one of those races. Its also not a battle between the emperors anymore its a battle royal with all people going for the One Piece, but why are Dragon and Sabo split, don't they share the same goal and is there a split within the Revolutionary Army itself, maybe Dragon truly is a hardliner and Sabo might be more forgiving?
I might need to reread the whole of Egghead or at least Vegapunks speech to truly appreciate the implications for the story moving forward.
Eggheads end must be around the corner, Saturn falling into the water will this be the death of the first Elder, or will he be summoned back to Marijoa?
Yeah, the fact that Oda showed Pudding clearly behind bars and not King likely means he's keeping it ambiguous. If he was at Impel Down, he'd likely be experimented on by now, yet he seems to be relatively fine and not in agony.
In the spoiler thread, I mentioned the final spread, despite being exciting and hype, feeling like a repeat of what we got before by just repeating the "remember to go after the One Piece, guys" we got in occasions before. But as @andy pointed out, this time the speech is bringing more players into the race.
Vegapunk is underlining to the entire world claiming the One Piece is not something that just matters to the pirates, it's not just a big treasure to make you rich and famous, it's something that can change the entire world (and even make the difference between it dying or not), so I think it's not fair to consider it just a rehashing of past speeches like Whitebeard's.
It definitely raises the stakes, making it everyone's problem. The entire world now was fine ignoring pirates as long as they didn't came to their shores, but now they can't divert their eyes, and things like the Revolutionary Army have all the reason to also meddle directly in this issue that so far they might have been regarding as unrelated to their cause.
The Marines are pirates now /s
I wonder how many of them have doubts towards their government.
To me, the way Vegapunk's reveal was done make it more likely that finding the One Piece will be the last thing in the series, not the "find the One Piece then go for the final war" a lot of people expected. The battle for the One Piece will be the final war.
On an unrelated note:
Hey, Saturn, what about using that unexplained gaze attack on the giants? Or that unexplained paralysis power? Or your explosive poisonous balls?
Why are you using useless leg attacks that are only effective against distracted elder non-combatants' backs?
@Deicide said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
To me, the way Vegapunk's reveal was done make it more likely that finding the One Piece will be the last thing in the series, not the "find the One Piece then go for the final war" a lot of people expected. The battle for the One Piece will be the final war.
Yeah, this was something many have been thinking for a while.
It's obvious that Oda does not want the treasure to overstay its welcome. If Luffy claims OP before the final war, he might as well literally cruise to victory.
It's also more convenient if all relevant characters just move to the same general location.
@Deicide said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
Why are you using useless leg attacks that are only effective against distracted elder non-combatants' backs?
For the same reason the poison that could instantly corrode an entire tree now suddenly can be rendered ineffective as long as you block it with a shield
@access-timeco Trees don't use haki, lol.
If Saturn doesn't sink, then that is some bullshit.
@Deicide said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
Hey, Saturn, what about using that unexplained gaze attack on the giants? Or that unexplained paralysis power? Or your explosive poisonous balls?
Yeah, now that you mention it. . .dafuck was that paralysis power? At least Luffy tanked the gaze blast some chapters ago, so maybe he stoped using it because of that, but why did he stop using that broken, mass paralysis attack that so far has been very effective?
@kouch_lee Also, the gaze attack still caused some blood spitting on Luffy. Why not use it on the giants in his way? Or even to halt Luffy for a second?
I liked the flashback of Bonney and her effort to make an ultimate team attack with Luffy but Saturn finish move is indeed disappointing. It's just another big punch. We don't know what happens to him next and he was indeed very passive.
I like the final. There is no big reveal but now everybody knows that the race for the One Piece has started. The silhouete guy was unnecessary. We have no idea who it is and why it is there for. That will just makes us do useless speculation
@Kdom
It’s gonna be Shanks evil twin or Shanks is the evil twin like that one Treehouse Horror special in the Simpsons with Barts evil or not so evil twin brother.
@Deicide said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
Hey, Saturn, what about using that unexplained gaze attack on the giants? Or that unexplained paralysis power? Or your explosive poisonous balls?
Why are you using useless leg attacks that are only effective against distracted elder non-combatants' backs?
I'll give Saturn a pass here because he's outnumbered and his gaze has never really been used on more than one target at once. His tentacle legs are probably the best he has in this circumstance.
The poison bombs kinda backfired the first time he used them. No reason to think they would be of any use now with Luffy right there.
@King-Cannon said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
I'll give Saturn a pass here because he's outnumbered and his gaze has never really been used on more than one target at once. His tentacle legs are probably the best he has in this circumstance.
The paralysis power affected Sanji, Franky, Vegapunk, and Atlas all at once, so it's a multi-target or area attack. Plus it's really strong, since it kept Sanji helpless.
Also, the poison bombs were thrown at Luffy and from afar before, he now has a pretty good range advantage. Hell, he could spit them on the ship and count on the explosion to spread the poison.
@Deicide said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
Also, the poison bombs were thrown at Luffy and from afar before, he now has a pretty good range advantage. Hell, he could spit them on the ship and count on the explosion to spread the poison.
He's not gonna nuke the ship he's in though. That would be beyond stupid.
(Plus Luffy wouldn't be affected, although this is more of an outside explanation to not bother using it)
@King-Cannon said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
He's not gonna nuke the ship he's in though.
Why not? He's immortal. I doubt he's afraid of the ocean, he jumped on the ship to begin with.
Also, his objective right now are Bonney and Kuma, Luffy surviving would make no difference for this.
@Deicide said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
Why not? He's immortal. I doubt he's afraid of the ocean, he jumped on the ship to begin with.
That doesn't mean anything? Not being afraid of the ocean doesn't mean he's immune to it.
It's just a dumb idea all around. There's nothing wrong with Saturn just going wild with his leg blades. You're just nitpicking because the Giants were able to defend against it, but that doesn't necessarily the other moves couldn't be defended as well.
It all boils down to Oda's willingness to have Luffy make a baseball bat from nowhere to batter an atomic bomb. A character is not stupid for simply not using a move the author would likely make fail anyway.
The conondrum between "don't uses the giants as hype tools" and "waaah, Saturn doesn't single-handedly body the entire giant crew including their leaders who may well be among the strongest fighters the giants have, all while he also has to hold out against an emperor, his crew, a warlord and a supernova"...
@King-Cannon The idea that the villain shouldn't try his best because the hero will stop him anyway is, frankly, stupid. By your logic, Saturn shouldn't use leg attacks, because they never work, nor should jump on the ship to begin with, because nothing he does ever works.
@Deicide said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
@King-Cannon The idea that the villain shouldn't try his best because the hero will stop him anyway is, frankly, stupid. By your logic, Saturn shouldn't use leg attacks, because they never work, nor should jump on the ship to begin with, because nothing he does ever works.
I'm just saying that what Saturn does in this chapter is not really bad in theory. Oda could've made some of those attacks hit the giants, at which point we would be calling it the right move, or he could have Saturn use his poison bombs and fail miserably again.
Like, Saturn literally has death legs. The attack is not any less dangerous than any of his other ones. And as pointed out, they are not being blocked effortlessly, as the Giants are using Haki.
There's really no point in making up alternate scenarios where the villain tries something else and somehow wins. Saturn needs to lose anyway, and it's not like him doing an evil glare or something would've changed his prospects narrative-wise.
I am very much enjoying how miserable Mihawk and Crocodile are....they NEED Buggy's appeal and now they definitely can't get rid of him
@MetaMario I would love if the Cross Guild actually knows Buggy isn't really that strong, but they still follow him just because they like him better as a leader then Crocodile.
@Johnny-B-Decent said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
@MetaMario I would love if the Cross Guild actually knows Buggy isn't really that strong, but they still follow him just because they like him better as a leader then Crocodile.
Buggy also has more knowledge of the Road Poneglyph, so they def see his value in that.
This chapter had the Giant Pirates ship a bit more clear.
Been working on my 7 clans/religions of Elbaf speculation. I go by the jolly roger, so you can see if Oda kept them consistent at least throughout Egghead or he messed up at times.
Back left of Giant Pirates ship
Left side
Front of New Giant Pirates ship
Front right
Back right
Front right
Back left
Front left
Back right
Front right
Giant Pirates probably carry some that may differ from New Giant Pirates or at least in a different order.
After OG Giant Pirates, looks like Saul probably started his own before joining Marines.
So time to start guessing who’s the last unknown figure in the double spread
Man with the burn scar? Loki? The mysterious eyepatch character we know Oda has been saving? Someone new entirely?
Also I’m sad that neither Katakuri nor Enel were on that final spread since I was expecting them to become major players in the war
@Shiebs said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
Man with the burn scar?
I bet on that.
And more, it may also be that mysterious Rocks member we only saw in shadow in Ch 1096.
I think there can be no doubt about it - this is the climax of Egghead and the finale of volume 110. There may technically be one last chapter to go at the start of the next volume as Emet makes his final play and Vegapunk signs off, but there's no mistaking that the moment Oda wanted to build to is this.
First thing of note here is the title. People have been saying this since the spoilers dropped, so you're probably not hearing it from me first, but the chapter's title references part of Roger's quote from the start of chapter 100. "Inherited will. A man's dream. The tides of the eras." Both previous parts, at least in Japanese, have also been chapter titles and the titles of the volumes containing those chapters (chapter 145/volume 16 and chapter 224/volume 24). The English releases, unfortunately, have not maintained the same consistency of wording between the original quote and their chapter/volume titles. I really don't want to become the kind of content creator you come to for a simple review and have to skim over him pitching his side projects, so I won't go on too long, but catching these kinds of things is exactly why I wanted to start my One Piece Rewrite Project for so long. This is such a powerful set of series-long connections to draw and a shame for English readers not to have, but also not something you can blame the older translators for because it would take more than 20 years of foresight to know how important it was meant to be.
The colour spread has a very pleasant, summery vibe to it with some really strong colour work. It's the coldest, wettest part of winter here, so I appreciate the reminder of warmer weather. Off-hand, the idea of a giant Nami and a lot of ice cream sounds like its reusing the concept from chapter 1011's spread, but in practice the two look and feel different. But having seen the prototype with the crew building a model Merry, yeah, I wish we'd gotten that instead. It would have been a much better fit to celebrate the anniversary as well. Can only hope Oda decides to take another shot at the idea at some point.
Finally moving onto the chapter proper, the first thing that stands out is Luffy's choice to elevate Bonney. He's winding up his own attack when he notices her feelings, and, even without knowing the backstory himself, encourages her to participate in the final blow. This shows both an emotional perceptiveness and a willingness to share the spotlight that might scan as uncharacteristic of Luffy. But it feels like character growth to me. We saw this behaviour develop through his relationship with Momo, and it seems to have stuck. And boy does that final punch feel good. Bonney's bit about her loneliness and the family she wanted to have is tragic and moving. Saturn well and truly earned that hit, even if he's almost definitely not dead yet.
But I can't help thinking this might have had more impact if this had been the first time Bonney achieved the Nika transformation. Let it be the giants and/or Strawhats who team up with Luffy to throw Mars away and save Bonney for the battle that's personal to her. But whatever. Maybe the mood would have been wrong to achieve a Nika transformation if Saturn was already on deck. He's not exactly a figure who inspires joy.
It might also have been cool to see Kuma contribute, but that tiny little smile he offers after it's done speaks volumes. His survival, combined with Bonney's little fantasy spot of living with him and Ginny, feels like death for Bonney's odds of joining the crew. She's got a home to return to that she's been missing. Her happiest ending is getting it.
Vegapunk sneaks a few final revelations into his closing remarks. Connections are drawn between the Lunarians, Buccaneers and Three-eyes as races oppressed in relation to the Void Century. The first two we knew about, but as much sense as it makes, what with the ability to read Poneglyphs, the Three-eyes are not something I'd thought about tying into that thread. It's reiterated, also, that the World Government might have usurped the top of the Red Line from the Lunarians. I wonder if the oni/ogres will eventually fall into this category as well?
And of course, we have the kick-off of the final scramble for the One Piece. Given what's been said, it makes sense for the Marines to finally consider prioritising it to keep a pirate or Revolutionary from claiming the power the decide the fate of the world.
I'm going all in on the last spread being the key figures of this last war. Maybe Law and Kid could struggle back as wildcards, but I think Oda's telling us they've lost their shot at being major contenders. Plus, we've got a wildcard in the totally unknown silhouetted figure down there. People are maybe jumping the gun being so quick to call him Shanks-y with so little info, but I am personally a believer in the evil twin theory. What's sticking in my mind though, is how many of the faces shown are obstinately on the same side presently. Blackbead and Kuzan; Sabo and Dragon; and Sakazuki and Koby, who themselves are subordinate to Imu and Garling. I wonder if the suggestion is that each of these figures has some kind of their own agenda and could end up at odds with any of the others. For some, the divide is obvious. Kuzan's true loyalties have been the subject of debate for years. SWORD making a splinter group of good Marines is on every final arc bingo card. But Sabo embracing his new solo identity as the Flame Emperor and creating friction with Dragon could be an interesting twist.
So that's it. The world has caught up to where the readers are and the race for the prize has been officially declared. Things can only get really crazy from here. I'm tempted to use the break week to reread Egghead in full, but I'd rather save it for when the island is definitively done with, Emet and all, rather than have to adjust opinions over a last few chapters like when rereading Wano during the mid-epilogue break month.
I was re-watching parts of Skypiea last night while drunk and I was thinking to myself, isn't the Giant electrical sphere from Enel kind of OP?
Come to think of it, the Goro Goro no mi is pretty broken. I mean, that sphere nuked an entire city in a span of a few minutes.
So I thought to myself, what if Uranus is Enel's DF? What if to complete Uranus, you need Enel's DF + A certain machine?
And then I thought to myself, since I think we won't have One Piece: Space Pirates spin off and Enel needs to be relevant again, what if his relevancy was staring at our face the whole time? And the whole reason the WG can't get their hands of Uranus is because its in the sky and is constantly roaming around. Keep in mind that we have no idea about Enel's backstory.
Why did Oda showed Vivi(Pluton, Alabasta), Shirahoshi(Poseidon) and then Skypiea? Because he can't show Enel as that'll outright tell you what uranus is.
It also makes sense that Uranus=electricity=infinite energy. Like, that's pretty fucking op.
So here's my theory, either Uranus is Goro goro mi awakened or it is a combination of a device + Goro goro mi. And I think the fact that he can throw a sphere and nuke an entire town/village is similar to the WG's mother flame weapon nuking an entire island. Except that Enel doesn't need the Mother flame to do so.
I don't know what is crazier between people who speculate that the shadowy figure is a Shanks relative based on the shape of the sword, clearly assuming that sword handle shapes are a genetically transmitted trait, or the fact that they're likely right.
I just realized this entire chapter took place while the Sunny is falling. And it still didn't hit the ocean.
Once upon a time I had to ask how the f**k Vegapunk knew the Roger Pirates discovered the truth of the world and kept it to themselves.
Now I wonder how the dipping sh*ts he knows enough about the One Piece to say that it will give its finder control of the world!
EVERYTHING he said this chapter was pure speculation, based neither on his own gathered data nor any ancient writing he's talked about
Well yeah. He said in the last chapter that this part was going to be his closing statement on what he thinks will happen in the future.
he said earlier he won't drop any speculations.
i said it before it makes no sense that he knows what the Roger pirates found or gain regarding the one piece and everything surrounds it such as complete history and such
it's a dogshit message so far. he didn't reveal the only thing he logically knows ( kingdom's name ) and yet he revealed things that only those who made the final voyage have discovered.
but nothing has to make sense nowadays.
Saul's books are Clover's books and Robin read all of it so how the fuck he gained so much more while working for the government being under their surveillance!
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
Finally moving onto the chapter proper, the first thing that stands out is Luffy's choice to elevate Bonney. He's winding up his own attack when he notices her feelings, and, even without knowing the backstory himself, encourages her to participate in the final blow. This shows both an emotional perceptiveness and a willingness to share the spotlight that might scan as uncharacteristic of Luffy. But it feels like character growth to me. We saw this behaviour develop through his relationship with Momo, and it seems to have stuck. And boy does that final punch feel good. Bonney's bit about her loneliness and the family she wanted to have is tragic and moving. Saturn well and truly earned that hit, even if he's almost definitely not dead yet.
But I can't help thinking this might have had more impact if this had been the first time Bonney achieved the Nika transformation. Let it be the giants and/or Strawhats who team up with Luffy to throw Mars away and save Bonney for the battle that's personal to her. But whatever. Maybe the mood would have been wrong to achieve a Nika transformation if Saturn was already on deck. He's not exactly a figure who inspires joy.
It might also have been cool to see Kuma contribute, but that tiny little smile he offers after it's done speaks volumes. His survival, combined with Bonney's little fantasy spot of living with him and Ginny, feels like death for Bonney's odds of joining the crew. She's got a home to return to that she's been missing. Her happiest ending is getting it.
See, it really doesn't make sense me to Oda would be building up Bonney's devotion to Nika and having a fondness of Kuma and Nika being heroes just to return to home.
This combined with Bonney now basically being one of the most targeted individuals by the Elders now really doesn't make me think she's just going to go back home having pizza parties with Kuma right after this.
Basically, any happy ending Oda has in store for Bonney might be coming much later rather than much sooner, based on what he has shown.
@electricmastro The hero's journey has to end somewhere.
And while they're both high-value targets, we also have Elbaf coming up, both the biggest hotbed of Nika worship we know of and one most secure and lasting holdouts to World Government control.
If there's anywhere for an at-risk family of true believers to settle down, it's there.
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
@electricmastro The hero's journey has to end somewhere.
And while they're both high-value targets, we also have Elbaf coming up, both the biggest hotbed of Nika worship we know of and one most secure and lasting holdouts to World Government control.
If there's anywhere for an at-risk family of true believers to settle down, it's there.
I think it ultimately depends on what Bonney wants.
If Bonney just wants to be at home having pizza parties with Kuma, I’ll respect that.
If Bonney grows to have another dream of wanting to take down the Celestial Dragons which ruined her family and Kuma’s family, which I’m suspecting, I’ll also respect that.
In any case, the journey to Elbaf and her time on Elbaf will def give Bonney plenty of time to reflect and plan out her next moves going forward. The next one or two dozen chapters might give us that answer after the dust settles and Bonney has reflected.
these last few chapters go better as a volume read rather than a week-to-week read. I still really like it but I can understand people's frustrations.
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
I think it ultimately depends on what Bonney wants.
If Bonney just wants to be at home kissy having pizza parties with Kuma, I’ll respect that
As much as I enjoyed the Kuma flashback and the dynamic with Saturn, having one Nika in the story is already becoming one too much. So two ? No thanks. I loved her powers when it was about aging and comical different futures, but with recent developments I really, really, really hope Bonney takes the family option. Or at least, goes on to do story-relevant Nika-esque stuff in off-panel land.
@Seafarer33 said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
I think it ultimately depends on what Bonney wants.
If Bonney just wants to be at home kissy having pizza parties with Kuma, I’ll respect thatAs much as I enjoyed the Kuma flashback and the dynamic with Saturn, having one Nika in the story is already becoming one too much. So two ? No thanks. I loved her powers when it was about aging and comical different futures, but with recent developments I really, really, really hope Bonney takes the family option. Or at least, goes on to do story-relevant Nika-esque stuff in off-panel land.
Looks like she'll have a whole arc to be considering Nika stuff more considering how Nika is a central figure of Elbaf, so I'm looking forward to it.
@hideoushorrendous I am confused on what would limit VP from not knowing Roger knew. Tamago didn't have all PGs and even he knows the total amount of PGs and the different types of PGs.
What would stop the world's smartest man from knowing that reaching the end of the GL, you can find the full story?
From what has been said about the PGs, it feels like each is a piece to a full puzzle.
The more PGs read, you get a sense that it is pieces of a larger whole.
VP said a "handful" and it is safe to say that his knowledge and Ohara had to be 5 or less PGs.
how did he knew that the royal pirates knew everything by simply claiming the treasure
that's what upsets me the most. it makes zero sense that he knows that and made a big global scene all thanks to this particular information
this will change the world yet it came outta thin air. there is no build up or anything to explain it. but people are okay cuz he's a scientist. he must've figured a way so who cares on how he did it / obtain it.
the broadcast was truly frustrating, all the valuable information were censored and don't even expect Lilith to drop any of it despite the fact she shares the same knowledge as Shaka & Pythagoras who were there listening to Stella. so that's another fart coming our way she will pretend she's less knowledgeable so she won't spoil anything to us before the right time which will happen after a few more years of waiting.
@zeltrax225 said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
I was re-watching parts of Skypiea last night while drunk and I was thinking to myself, isn't the Giant electrical sphere from Enel kind of OP?
Come to think of it, the Goro Goro no mi is pretty broken. I mean, that sphere nuked an entire city in a span of a few minutes.So I thought to myself, what if Uranus is Enel's DF? What if to complete Uranus, you need Enel's DF + A certain machine?
And then I thought to myself, since I think we won't have One Piece: Space Pirates spin off and Enel needs to be relevant again, what if his relevancy was staring at our face the whole time? And the whole reason the WG can't get their hands of Uranus is because its in the sky and is constantly roaming around. Keep in mind that we have no idea about Enel's backstory.Why did Oda showed Vivi(Pluton, Alabasta), Shirahoshi(Poseidon) and then Skypiea? Because he can't show Enel as that'll outright tell you what uranus is.
It also makes sense that Uranus=electricity=infinite energy. Like, that's pretty fucking op.
So here's my theory, either Uranus is Goro goro mi awakened or it is a combination of a device + Goro goro mi. And I think the fact that he can throw a sphere and nuke an entire town/village is similar to the WG's mother flame weapon nuking an entire island. Except that Enel doesn't need the Mother flame to do so.
Yep, Oda def setting up for when we revisit sky lore, with Urouge, Lunarians, and Uranus.
@hideoushorrendous said in Chapter 1121: The Upheaval of the Era:
how did he knew that the royal pirates knew everything by simply claiming the treasure
that's what upsets me the most. it makes zero sense that he knows that and made a big global scene all thanks to this particular information
this will change the world yet it came outta thin air. there is no build up or anything to explain it. but people are okay cuz he's a scientist.
Part of this bothered me as well.
The first half of the broadcast is well-documented, with VP taking precautions in his affirmations and quoting his own scientific readings to back his claim of the rising waters. He provides evidence as to how the Ancient Weapons are still around and a threat to the present world. Everything fine so far and we get to learn nice things. I can even buy that he has read enough about poneglyphs in the O'hara records to understand they fill the blanks of history and assume LaughTale has the most relevant ones.
But then, in this chapter, out of nowhere it suddenly spirals into "so you should just go grab the One Piece, it will shape the world and don't mind anything I said previously."
It's like Oda was going to let us in on some good stuff, yet changed his mind and instead went for "wait a few more years, here is a shallow flashy BE HYPED !!!!!11!1! to chew on". I would seriously have prefered to learn a few more tangible elements and be left to decide for myself why and how grabbing the One Piece is so important.
All in all, this makes me sad, more than anything else. The manga is entering its endgame, these are key moments we have been waiting for for decades and I want to enjoy them. Yet at the end of arcs there's always some element or another that spoils the fun and I am left with frustration. Whole Cake had Sanji's cake fiasco, Wano had Yamato and a super-weak epilogue, now Egghead : it's becoming a feature in recent years. Dressrosa is possibly the last time I felt really strongly excited about the conclusion of an arc. Maybe I have grown tired with the tricks and artifacts of weekly storytelling. Call it series fatigue, I guess.
What if Vegapunk actually explained how the One Piece connects to the fate of the world during the part of the broadcast that got skipped over, when he was taking about the D?
In this case, the D would be the key to the One Piece.
@Zanze he very likely did something like that, in good or evil the D people clearly have their fates intertwined with ancient history and the One Piece. And it's perfectly reasonable that we would not hear all of it just yet.
The question is, why did Oda chose to spoonfeed us such ridiculously tiny crumbs? Roughly put, the only real new elements we learned in Egghead when it comes to the overarching truths of the world are "Devil Fruits are born from desires" (sigh) and "the world is sinking". Which was thinned down over about 10 chapters. Seriously? I never wanted to learn everything now, but could we not have gotten the tiniest bit of additional info to keep us going ? Not the whole picture, but something to speculate on.
But, no. Instead of being given the opportunity to let our imagination run and come up with wild new answers, a flashy sign One Piece ! Here ! Cool ! is shoved in our faces and that's it. I feel infantilized.
After reading some of the posts, I still wonder what the Egghead incident is going to be, is it VP message to the world or something we have yet to see, cause nothing strikes me as important enough, maybe I will feel different on a reread or in hindsight once the arc is over. But I think the Egghead incident did not happen yet.
@The-Light-of-Shandora people of the world already have plenty to be in awe of, though. Vegapunk is dead - likely to be blamed on the Strawhats - their world is sinking into the ocean, they're hostages of a neverending war, ancient weapons are still a thing, the age of piracy got a third start, they might even learn their government is a bunch of eldritch monstrosities if Morgans has inside informers... I have a hard time picturing how it can get any worse, unless Imu suddenly decides to play fireworks with islands one after the other.