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Someone edit Oda's words later, please.
Some thoughts:
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Someone edit Oda's words later, please.
Some thoughts:
It's actually pretty cool that we might have the mystery of Kuma, his relation Vegapunk, and his relation to Bonney all answer in what might be the next chapter. This has been a question for years now, and it's pretty close.
I hope Luffy turns his fist into an anvil and drops it on Lucci's head.
Well, one good thing is Weevil is surely a clone of WB, we can safely bet. I never liked WB's true son scenario....
Been an enjoyable arc so far, but this chapter definitely stands out amongst everything so far. I didn't think too much about Stussy but it makes sense that she has something going on between being introduced in the Big Mom arc. and of the three CP0 agents here being the odd person out of not being a previous CP9 member. I'm not even trying to make heads or tails of what's going on, just going to enjoy this crazy ride. I can see this arc already being closer towards the end, or only just starting depending on how it goes from here.
With Stussy being a clone, I wonder if this points to the whole of Shimotsuki Village being comprised of clone children. Zoro and Sanji may be more similar than we think.
Of course, I’ve thought Luffy might be a clone of Roger for years and this further hints towards that direction.
I can't wait for the bonney/kuma backstory.
That Stussy reveal!!!
Seeing Young Bucking confirms to be that she and Whitebeard, at minimum, fucked.
Wonder if Bonney's attack Oil Shock is written the same way as Ursus Shock in the original. Cool to have a little reference to her father...
Maybe Bonney is Big Mom's clone (pink hair, hungry) and that's what Kuma didn't want her to know.
Wondering about Kuma's past: it would be so interesting if he really was a Tyrant, a bad king, and changed his ways after meeting Dragon, even stepping away from the throne to let his people be free. I am afraid Oda might go the safe route and make the tyrant thing a bad reputation the WG gave him because he got close to the Revos.... It would be nice to have a good character who was actually bad in the past
@Deicide said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
It's interesting that so far the (evil) protagonist of this arc has been Rob Lucci. He's the one with a goal, facing odds, fighting obstacles, being betrayed.
A-Are you suggesting I should symphatize with that sociopathic piece of shit?!
That won't happen! Absolutely not! Just because I felt a little bit for him once or twice this arc, b-but... No! That's crazy! Will not happen! N-Never...!
I didn't see people mentioning this, but hoe crazy was it that Sanji himself aknowledged how close they are to the end of their journey? When he "mourned" Zoro's death so close to the One Piece.
Oda now is so focused on the ending that even the characters are thinking about it.
Bat? Vampire? Vampire bat?
Wonder why Vegapunk feels that clones is the way to world peace? Do they need something from someone who is dead to break this groundhog day loop of people being reincarnated by magic fruit?
So it seems like Bonney is going to get a good understanding everything her dad has been through quite soon. She’ll prob use this knowledge as a lead in to go to Dragon, further giving her good reason to sail on Luffy’s ship.
The synergy between the cover story and the main chapter is something I'm really enjoying lately. There's a great contrast between the scientists working to mass-produce weapons of slaughter on the cover and Vegapunk's commentary calling it the "lab for peace" on the next page. No wonder that group couldn't stick together. You do have to wonder how the anime is going to handle the cover stories getting more and more important with their current choice to ignore them entirely.
I think we're being set up for some tragedy surrounding Bonney and Kuma soon. While Oda jumps aroudn from scene to scene a lot, he doesn't usually play two in parallel the way he does this week, cutting back and forth between them so rapidly. Bonney is desperately doing what she thinks will save her father, all the while his real body attempts its doomed ascent of the Redline, only to get torn down by the Marines. Kuma's tough, but he's obviously not functioning at 100% here. I'm not betting in favour of his plan. And then we're set up to see Bonney absorbing his memories and seeing the truth - the reasons he made a deal with the Government after they made him out to be a tyrant, why he abandoned Bonney, and what he's ultimately aiming for - right before his main body is either detained or outright destroyed.
Getting abstract with the Paw Paw Fruit's powers has some great storytelling potential. My first thoughts were of "feeding" devil fruits to inanimate objects - could the ability factor be pushed between the fruit or a user and the item? - and of a way to show the Void Century and Ancient Kingdom directly - did an ancient user of the fruit leave their own memories behind to be found?
The traitor/ally mystery deepens with Shaka claiming the dome only malfunctioned and the suggestion that it was Stussy that Vegapunk called into action. While she obviously has some insider knowledge of Egghead systems, we can see her with the Cipher Pol group at the moment the dome goes down, looking as surprised as anyone, so we can be pretty sure she didn't do it. There might be more here, but honestly I could still see Oda saying it genuinely was a malfunction that happened just to keep the plot moving.
Sneaking the Seraphim up is a little cheap either way though. There's not technically a contraction in it, we don't see them down the bottom after the dome flickers, but there still should have been some suggestion they were moving in one of the wider shots of Lucci's group flying up.
Lilith and Edison's plan to regain control of the Seraphim feels reckless to me. After what happened to Atlas, I don't like their odds. But it's still so hard to say what direction this arc is going to go for its climax, I wouldn't want to commit to any one answer on the Seraphim's role.
Okay, Kaku is awakened. Sure, why not. We definitely need to learn a bit mroe about what awakening is and what benefits it actually grants in the near future, especially for Zoans. The choice to give them flaming koma-hair and wreaths of black fire is probably going to come around to bite Oda. He got away with leaving haki a mystery then acting like everyone always had it because it was invisible to those not in the know. The reader could fill in the blanks of who they thought it made the most sense to have or not have it before the timeskip. Awakening does not allow the same benefit of the doubt. Adding a visual cue quashes theories that it's just a strength boost and the Beasts Pirates were using theirs without talking about it. The wreath of flames/smoke muddies things as well. Oda's used them too often as a plain signifier of power. Luffy wasn't Awakened yet for Gear Four, but had a smoke one for Boundman and a flaming one for Snakeman. Enel and Caesar, off the top of my head, used them in their elemental forms. Plus Paramythia Awakenings not having any visual of their own that we know of. It's all just a bit messy in my opinion.
The Stussy reveal is cool though. I've thought for years that Patrick Redfield's Vampire Model Bat Bat Fruit was too fun an idea to stay locked away in the non-canon videogame world. She's been a fascinating presence since her Whole Cake Island introduction, so I'm really looking forward to seeing what's done with her now that there's an even more fascinating clone backstory attached.
The amount of people still tying Bakkin in comment sections across the internet when the context here makes it crystal clear that the name was meant to be Buckin all along (with the official release even getting it right from the start) is a show that most fans care more about which translation they saw first than they actually do about accuracy. I think if there'd been even one early scan that went with Zolo over Zoro we wouldn't be able to get people to stop saying it today.
Anyway, really great chapter to come back on after the break with some cool reveals that set up even cooler ones in the coming weeks. Hopefully we get a few chapters in a row now that the new year break season's over.
So with the Stussy reveal I wonder if we'll have a similar reveal on the hereoes side? It's very likely that she is related to whoever is responsible gor the disappearing CP agents. And I doubt she could have done this on her own while being out on other missions. It's likely that she has allies, one who is sabotaging the Labs defenses. The question is who? I'd say it's Shaka or whoever is posing for him behind that mask.
@wolfwood There's nothing wrong with creating your own clone army. On the other hand, as Vegapunk completely failed to properly condition his Seraphim, he better not mess this up as well.
@wolfwood said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Wonder why Vegapunk feels that clones is the way to world peace? Do they need something from someone who is dead to break this groundhog day loop of people being reincarnated by magic fruit?
There will be no conflict if everyone is clones of the same person points at apple-shaped head
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
show that most fans care more about which translation they saw first than they actually do about accuracy.
I'm still pissed that they de-frenched Mihawk.
@ARTEMlS a do-over with clones that he can program for maximum efficiency. Proving that the punk is easily the biggest bastard in the evil science bitches gang
Some of Bonney's facial expressions in this chapter are so good.
Also, this is a terrible day for Kaku. He gets zapped, sees Lucci beat down, gets overpowered by Zoro only to get knocked out by Stussy. That is, unless he really is into vampires, in which case this was a great day. I guess it depends on what he's into.
@wolfwood Delivery and scripting aside, some of the 4kids accent choices were pretty inspired. Australian Shanks and Brooklyn Sanji still fit surprisingly well in my mind.
@Chams-0 said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Wonder if Bonney's attack Oil Shock is written the same way as Ursus Shock in the original. Cool to have a little reference to her father...
Maybe Bonney is Big Mom's clone (pink hair, hungry) and that's what Kuma didn't want her to know.
Wondering about Kuma's past: it would be so interesting if he really was a Tyrant, a bad king, and changed his ways after meeting Dragon, even stepping away from the throne to let his people be free. I am afraid Oda might go the safe route and make the tyrant thing a bad reputation the WG gave him because he got close to the Revos.... It would be nice to have a good character who was actually bad in the past
Bonney being Big Mom's clone sounds interesting. We already got clones of at least two members of the Rocks Pirates. Makes me wonder if all this is leading to the return of Xebec himself (as a clone).
One point I didn’t saw anyone bring up is the fact the Kuma door started beeping for no reason, thus attracting Bonney’s attention.
Oda brought attention to the dome security turning off, but this is the second time something weird happens almost unnoticed (the other was when VP mentioned that Luffy shouldn’t have been able to enter Fabriophase because there should be a thick barrier protecting it.
Wow, I hadn't noticed it before!
Almost as if... the machinery was bringing her there.
Is there a "ghost in the machinery" of Egghead?
(I'm paranoid about Atlas...)
Will also be interesting to see the history of the Warlords through Kuma's memories, especially if he was one of the first Warlords recruited and what operations were like then.
@Nectar said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
@Chams-0 said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Wonder if Bonney's attack Oil Shock is written the same way as Ursus Shock in the original. Cool to have a little reference to her father...
Maybe Bonney is Big Mom's clone (pink hair, hungry) and that's what Kuma didn't want her to know.
Wondering about Kuma's past: it would be so interesting if he really was a Tyrant, a bad king, and changed his ways after meeting Dragon, even stepping away from the throne to let his people be free. I am afraid Oda might go the safe route and make the tyrant thing a bad reputation the WG gave him because he got close to the Revos.... It would be nice to have a good character who was actually bad in the past
Bonney being Big Mom's clone sounds interesting. We already got clones of at least two members of the Rocks Pirates. Makes me wonder if all this is leading to the return of Xebec himself (as a clone).
Now that's interesting, like if he comes back and tries to force either former members or clones of former members to serve under him, such as forcing Stussy's clone to work for him to bring back "the glory days".
@wolfwood said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Wonder why Vegapunk feels that clones is the way to world peace? Do they need something from someone who is dead to break this groundhog day loop of people being reincarnated by magic fruit?
With the research those people were doing I dont think we should much credence to their world peace.
but i guess if you have endless souless slaves to do battle and do jobs you dont need to kill or enslave real natural people
Great job, World government HR guy in charge for the background check of highest ranking secret agents directly responsible for world nobles survival. Great job.
Not sure what to expect in the coming chapters, besides Bonny reliving her and Kumas past through his potential memories.
I hope we get to know more about MAD's, the revolutionaries and Bonny through that flashback. Oda could cramp a lot of information into a single flashback and I'm all for it.
The twist of Stussy being a clone made by MAD's is nice to see, it's only natural to assume that there could be a failed clone out there and most of what I heard most people thought immediately of Weevil and I'm all for it.
As for the action in this chapter, nice to see Zoro and Brook, while Brook is on guard duty again, Zoro gets some action against Kaku. To me it seemed like Zoro had no problems, so no issues with his near death experience in Wano. I hoped that there might be some indication that his body isn't back to normal yet, kinda disappointed with that turn, but who knows maybe something might happen to Zoro.
The Seraphims being able to do things on their own in good, this gives me hope that once all the people and devices are taken out which can control them, they will be their own faction. In this case, I hope King his alive to teach them the way of the Lunarians, so they can pass on knowledge and what not.
Stussy's betrayal at the end was a surprise. I want to know more about her, and I think the coverstory might reveal some information about her in the next edition, as we've seen Cesears, Judges and Queens first step towards their path of Science. Though they products seemed like failed versions. Maybe instead of seeing Stussy in the next edition, we will see Weevil as the first failed clone of MAD's.
Sigh, now every major character will be suspected of being a clone.
blurgh
@The-Light-of-Shandora said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Not sure what to expect in the coming chapters, besides Bonny reliving her and Kumas past through his potential memories.
I hope we get to know more about MAD's, the revolutionaries and Bonny through that flashback. Oda could cramp a lot of information into a single flashback and I'm all for it.
The twist of Stussy being a clone made by MAD's is nice to see, it's only natural to assume that there could be a failed clone out there and most of what I heard most people thought immediately of Weevil and I'm all for it.
As for the action in this chapter, nice to see Zoro and Brook, while Brook is on guard duty again, Zoro gets some action against Kaku. To me it seemed like Zoro had no problems, so no issues with his near death experience in Wano. I hoped that there might be some indication that his body isn't back to normal yet, kinda disappointed with that turn, but who knows maybe something might happen to Zoro.
The Seraphims being able to do things on their own in good, this gives me hope that once all the people and devices are taken out which can control them, they will be their own faction. In this case, I hope King his alive to teach them the way of the Lunarians, so they can pass on knowledge and what not.
Stussy's betrayal at the end was a surprise. I want to know more about her, and I think the coverstory might reveal some information about her in the next edition, as we've seen Cesears, Judges and Queens first step towards their path of Science. Though they products seemed like failed versions. Maybe instead of seeing Stussy in the next edition, we will see Weevil as the first failed clone of MAD's.
I suppose if Lucci and Kaku would have attacked at the same time, then the Seraphim could have started destroying the Sunny. Dodged a bullet there.
@Alfiere said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Great job, World government HR guy in charge for the background check of highest ranking secret agents directly responsible for world nobles survival. Great job.
I was sort assuming that they knew she was a clone.
@kevo_koma said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Sigh, now every major character will be suspected of being a clone.
blurgh
That's just what a clone would say, kevo_clonema
Interesting chapter.
Looking forward to the Kuma and/or Bonney flashback, I don't think we ever did find out why the World Government was so interested in her.
Speaking of Bonney, do we reckon she's awakened her Fruit (Distorted Future does feel like an awakened upgrade of her powers) or did Oda just want to make them a bit more visually interesting?
@wolfwood said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
@Alfiere said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Great job, World government HR guy in charge for the background check of highest ranking secret agents directly responsible for world nobles survival. Great job.
I was sort assuming that they knew she was a clone.
I'd assume that too, but it's either that guy or the one who decided that two out of four people sent to kill Vegapunk had to be Vegapunk-made artificial humans, who fucked up.
Because she just started giving non consensual neckbites to her co-workers mid-mission.
@kevo_koma said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Sigh, now every major character will be suspected of being a clone.
blurgh
Sanji is literally a clone
@wolfwood said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Wonder why Vegapunk feels that clones is the way to world peace? Do they need something from someone who is dead to break this groundhog day loop of people being reincarnated by magic fruit?
Apparently mass weapons destruction are also for world peace...
I am curious to learn the reasons for what he did to Kuma but he sure is a weird character.
Is he really that naïve or just does not care if it is for his researches ?
Vegapunk feels like a case of "as the resident super duperest scientist Vegapunk has been spearheading every major superscience innovation of the OP world including the mass-produced clone/child soldier program of the fascistic government, but for the sake of the current story he needs to be an ally, so we're not reeeeeeally gonna dig into that"
Just look at how quickly the crew moved on from "Wait you made a voice-commanded gene-spliced child soldier clone of one of our crewmates???" to "so what you're saying is this giant lorebot we see on this PC screen climbed up the red line for mystery reasons?"
@Daz So true. I'm kinda hoping for some sort of redemption, or Vegapunk turning out to be not so much of an ally (like, his dream for world peace involves brainwashing denizens of said world or whatever crazy science scheme).
But after the Dragon flashback, odds are it will all be neatly swept under the rug because he's just this friendly quirky grampa. :/
Added to the Big Mom murder plot all while looking down on Caesar's children experiments, the Straw Hats do have quite the shifting moral compass.
@ea77 Well, I guess having twin brothers kinda makes you a clone.
@All-Fiction technically all twins/triplets et al, are natural clones
@Daz vegapunk is a secret master manipulator. With genius planning, he sent Lillith and her robot to charmsquasar Sanji and Franky, then a small display of might with the Seraphim to discourage violensar, and finally an appeal to the heroiquasar straw hats nature to turn him to their side -- after offering Luffy meat, of course.
He read the situation and planned the scenario that would make escape likequasarly.
In his defense he was really curious about all of those crimes against humanity
The fact that Jim Boy himself has given no real commentary on how he feels despite seeing his clone really just lays to bear that Oda doesn't want to us (or himself) to think too much about it.
@ea77 said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
@kevo_koma said in Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory:
Sigh, now every major character will be suspected of being a clone.
blurgh
Sanji is literally a clone
I mean sure.
but even when we knew this, it didn't become a game of spot the clone game.
is weevil the clone of whitebeard. is buggy the clone of long john silver?
yuck..i truly hate this
is zoro the clone of yuuma/shimotsuki?