Chapter 734: "Rommel's Whirlwind"
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Great chapter, surprisingly good chapter thread (maybe it's the Robby factor?) and GREAT spoiler thread, even if many people were very pissed about the Cavendishes and Rebecca winning and stuff. (When stephen threw the Lunch reference I thought I was in for some disappointment cause I wanted Rebecca to have a split personality and it wouldn't happen. . .then it appears it was Cavendish, which was good enough!).
Honestly, the twist was pretty incredible and exciting, and it saved huge amounts of face for both Cavendish (he steamrolled everyone) and Rebecca (the ONLY fighter able to read and somewhat react to Caven's supersonic speed movements). It also made for some terrific action shots, which doesn't quite fix my need for more block D, but hey, we got Damask setting half the ring on fire, that's gotta be something!
Also, massive credit to Oda for the reference festival he's having with Cavendish, as it's been pointed out multiple times. I already loved him for being a parody of the bishie trope who also had my favorite quote of the year, and then Oda went and did this. So good.
As someone who ended up eating the Meadows red herring full on, I admit I've been had big time, but this outcome is way better. That Sabo was the one to aknowledge Rebecca's skill was the icing on the cake.
Another thing that caught my eye in this chapter is the art. That panel of the dwarves speeding through the underground harbour while Usopp and Robin sneak in disguised as Doffy goons is one that I find particularly good. It has something I can't quite put my finger what it is, but it's just such a great panel.
And last but not least, as obviously as Oda is preparing Doffy's downfall, the fact he sent FOUR ELITE GUYS to deal with Franky (who, as of now, seems to be having his hands full with only Pink) is anything but underestimating him. I mean, even I think that, unless someone helps him out, there's no way in hell he can take on Pink, Machvise, Dellinger AND Lao G all by himself.
And Luffy, Zoro and Kinemon will have to (probably) fight Pica, Gladius, Buffalo and Baby 5 + Doffy himself + if he feels like doing his freaking duty, Fujitora. Sorry, but as of now, Doffy is NOT underestimating them. As of now.
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I immediately thought of Alluka Zoldyck when I seen Cavendish's alter ego.
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What Doffy is dealing with her is clearly an unknown unknown
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Not underestimating his enemy is again, preparing for this worst. He doesn't expect his 4 guys in front of the toyhouses to be defeated? That's pretty big gamble.
We're not expected him to know everything. I even said that there are factors even he would never be able to predict, but not underestimating enemies means he should be able to take precautions, especially with the knowledge he should have at the current moment.
Aside from the obvious Shonen tropes that we know the Strawhats will always come out on top, I feel Doflamingo has done a lot to ensure victory, and a lot of his plans are being foiled by information he is not aware of.
He's foiled Law's plans completely so far. He lured Law and the Strawhats to Green Bit, allied with an Admiral, captured Law and turned Thousand Sunny away from Dressrosa. Then he seems to have Luffy exactly where he wants with the Colliseum bait, which worked exactly as planned. He also believes that the remaining Strawhats would not be able to take down the Factory/Toyhouse, which would be true for the most part.
What he did not and could not possibly conceive are all the external factors HELPING the Strawhats. He couldn't have expected Violet to turn, of the Tontattas to help Robin and Usopp, for Sabo to suddenly appear and take Luffy's place, and for characters like Barto and Chin Jao becoming potential Strawhat allies during all of this.
I wouldn't say Doflamingo is underestimating the Strawhats. He is simply ignorant to all the allies the Strawhats have gained over their stay at Dressrosa, which no one could have anticipated.
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It's not poor opinion of the crew, its the fact that members of his crew were beaten, EASILY, by only one SH already. Right now he doesn't think they'll be likely to be defeated, which means he is underestimating the SHs. The fact that he is thinks highly of his crew (against information he already has), means he's underestimating the SHs. He has other officers, but they're currently IN THE CASTLE (at least from our last view of them).
To be fair, Franky had the help of the Shogun back at PH.
And those are Dofla's best fighters. Probably levels above Baby 5 and Buffalo. Heck, Pink himself has done more damage to Franky than Baby 5 and Buffalo combined.
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Today is the day that he failed and earned his death. Plus, block D was underway by that point, so actually all of those people with a problem were either in the ring or in a hole. For him to consider the possibility of interference was for him to consider the possibility of interference specifically from Burgess (a commander under an evil Yonko with no respect for his own nakama, let alone other people), Barto (A man called 'cannibal' and also known for his cruelty) or Luffy (the aforementioned enemy). Three people in an entire coliseum, none of them with any reason to help even if they were around to notice. Shouldn't have been a risk.
At this point I can only say that I disagree with Doflamingo actually not underestimating the threat represented by the Strawhats. Or that Doflamingo is excellent at planning. Good? i suppose so. But excellent? I don't see it.
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Wow…that was like jerking off after being sexually abstinent for months. Thank Goda!
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Suddenly feel pretty sorry for Cavendish's crew. Night must be pretty scary for them when the Captain falls asleep. His alter-ego comes out to play~
Also, before we found out that Hakuma was the initial personality, I was thinking it might have something to do with the Excalibur legend, where-in those who the sword deemed unworthy fell into madness and became berserkers, killing allies and enemies alike on the field. It kinda fit.
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thank Goda it wasnt fucking "Meadows"
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At this point I can only say that I disagree with Doflamingo actually not underestimating the threat represented by the Strawhats. Or that Doflamingo is excellent at planning. Good? i suppose so. But excellent? I don't see it.
I'll agree there's more he could have done on the grounds that there's always more that could be done, but I'd say he's done all he reasonably should have. What we saw in this chapter was his plan going well so far as he's aware, and he's having a bit of a gloat. Certainly it sounds like he's underestimating his enemy from what he's saying, but the precautions he took suggest he started with a pretty high estimate, plus there's dramatic irony at work here that colours our judgement. He's not sure he's won though, and I reckon he'll put his game face back on the moment he realises a single element of his plan is out of whack. Ideally for the Strawhats, that won't happen until Luffy is all up in his face and it's too late for him to react.
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I'll agree there's more he could have done on the grounds that there's always more that could be done, but I'd say he's done all he reasonably should have. What we saw in this chapter was his plan going well so far as he's aware, and he's having a bit of a gloat. Certainly it sounds like he's underestimating his enemy from what he's saying, but the precautions he took suggest he started with a pretty high estimate, plus there's dramatic irony at work here that colours our judgement. He's not sure he's won though, and I reckon he'll put his game face back on the moment he realises a single element of his plan is out of whack. Ideally for the Strawhats, that won't happen until Luffy is all up in his face and it's too late for him to react.
The thing is Punk Hazard happened. He already saw a reasonably good plan get fucked up. While I consider he did everything that should have been at Punk Hazard the way he is acting makes me see him as someone who hasn't learn his lesson and think that he can get out of their without pulling everything out when he clearly should.
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The thing is Punk Hazard happened. He already saw a reasonably good plan get fucked up. While I consider he did everything that should have been at Punk Hazard the way he is acting makes me see him as someone who hasn't learn his lesson and think that he can get out of their without pulling everything out when he clearly should.
I don't know that you can compare plans in that way given that they're based around two completely different situations, and besides Caesar was concocting his plan on the fly. He was reacting to what happened in front of him at every step of the way. Doflamingo knew roughly what was coming, due in part to the fact that he witnessed some of the events of Punk Hazard. You could argue that some of the more outlandish possibilities should be prepared for given the events of Punk Hazard, but even so there's a limit to what you can predict, and some of the things being mentioned are really beyond the realms of probability. There's always going to be an element of risk, and there comes a point where being too careful becomes a waste of resources.
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I was going to ask how the name was written (if in katakana) because I found it weird that Cavendish second name was seemingly japanese, but it didn't occur to me that White Horse = Hakuba as well. Interesting.
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Right. It's not like he could forsee the Dwarves or that Violet - someone who has been loyal since she joined - would betray him. He hasn't had the opportunity to really see Luffy gathering companions for himself. At the war he saw Whitebeard call in contacts and friends and allies of Ace turn up. He would have counted Luffy as one of those, not as an initiator himself. He might have other plans in place for things like if Dragon showed (we don't know that he has or hasn't, but it's likely since he knows Dragon is a factor where Luffy is concerned, though he probably has no idea that Dragon hasn't had much of a hand in Luffy's life bar Loguetown), since he knows Luffy is Dragon's son, and he took care to have the Marines on his side, negating Garp's possible interference, so as far as he knows, he has done a lot to prepare for outside interferences.
There's no real way he could predict the help Luffy has. He lost Violet - the only one who could have told him of their plans and allies - who was the lynchpin in this whole mess. She's the table-turner in this game. He might have an idea that the toys would riot, but he can easily controll them (in his mind) so there's no issue there.
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I was going to ask how the name was written (if in katakana) because I found it weird that Cavendish second name was seemingly japanese, but it didn't occur to me that White Horse = Hakuba as well. Interesting.
Exactly, so to the Japanese reader, the murdering alter-ego's name makes perfect sense instantly. They would probably wonder from the very start where the "Hakuba" actually originally came from- was it Cavendish's epithet first? Or was it first the murderer's name? If the latter, did Cavendish hear stories about him and adopt the nickname?
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Not underestimating his enemy is again, preparing for this worst. He doesn't expect his 4 guys in front of the toyhouses to be defeated? That's pretty big gamble.
We're not expected him to know everything. I even said that there are factors even he would never be able to predict, but not underestimating enemies means he should be able to take precautions, especially with the knowledge he should have at the current moment.
there is a difference between knowing and extropolating from that knowledge IF you weren't underestimating your enemies or the possible scenarios of things going wrong. Again, I point to Croc, he didn't know EVERYTHING that was going on, but he for everything that could've been a hinderince to his plan (for the most part).
First of all, I agree with everything Robby has said and am not going to parrot what he said. But this comment is just ridiculous. Dofla's guys have proven themselves and have been with him for many many years. Hell, I'd wager Dofla trusts his executives to get the job done even more than Luffy trusts some of his nakama (namely Brooke who hasn't been with them for very long), simply because of their proven track record. Why should he assume that 4 of his most trusted subordinates are automatically going to lose to Franky? It'd be like Whitebeard sending over Vista, Namur, Curiel, and Jiro to Fishman Island and expecting them to lose to Hody Jones. Furthermore, Dofla did prepare for the worst, he has set up a scenario where even if 3 of his most reliable fighters go down, there's still another one there to hold the fort, not to mention Pika and Trebol are probably nearby as well. That gives him more than ample time to arrive personally if things go South.
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I think you're going to get over the fact that a lot of people see someone fighting in a coliseum with the plan to eventually beat a monster without even attempting to hit them, but rather push them out of the ring as completely idiotic. Having then someone do all heavy lifting and beating all the strong contenders then conveniently going to sleep instead of continuing to strike her as a silly plot device.. which could very likely continue with her being the winner of the free for all next round thanks to the power of her speed, impressive CoO & unique fighting style.. sorry I meant to say plot device.
Thank you, this is a cheapened win. I think Oda is the best mangaka of his generation, but even the best make mistakes sometimes, and Oda shouldn't be immune to criticism. This victory did not help Rebecca grow as a character, and it certainly did not happen in a convincing fashion.
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Exactly, so to the Japanese reader, the murdering alter-ego's name makes perfect sense instantly. They would probably wonder from the very start where the "Hakuba" actually originally came from- was it Cavendish's epithet first? Or was it first the murderer's name? If the latter, did Cavendish hear stories about him and adopt the nickname?
Lends more credence to the idea that Cavendish is fully aware of his other half (not that he's conscious while the other half is out, but aware that it exists).since it is stated that it was the hakuba persona who sailed first from rommel and then cavendish decided to became a pirate,i think we can safely assume he knows about hakuba,but doesn't care as long as 'he' makes him famous
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It's just the usual messages from each author in Jump.
But it's like Sandman says. Oda's appearance at JF last year will have been his last.
All the excitement probably isn't good for his health or something.trying to avoid Greg now lol
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guys,cavendish didn't go volountarily to sleep..he was already stumbling around before suleiman attacked him,he felt asleep because forced to,probably by hakuba itself..also,it's not like oda has to force his story to win,it's his story,if he wanted rebecca to win,he just needed to make her stronger..it's his manga,he decides the 'power levels',why should he force a victory?we are not even talking about already established characters..so he didn't even had to pay attention to plot holes
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Love to see peoples complain about Doflamingo doesn't have internet connection to read OP latest chapter and only depend on WG newspaper to find the information of SHC allies
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She's gotten as strong as she is just fine, which appears to be stronger than everyone in her block save Hakuba. No reason she couldn't get even stronger following the same path. There's also no reason she couldn't change her mind later on.
She reacted to it and avoided the worst of it, something no one else in the block managed. That's not a deus ex machina. Her ability to move quickly was foreshadowed by most of the previous chapter.
It'd take a pretty significant (read: traumatic) experience for someone to just change not only their personality, but their NATURE. And how exactly did she show herself to be stronger than everyone in her block save Cavendish? Did she take out even one named character?
deus ex machina (via Wikipedia): "a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object". A seemingly impossible problem (Rebecca winning block D despite being incapable of taking out the likes of Rolling Logan, let alone a monster like Cavendish) is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of a character and event (Cavendish suddenly becomes Hakuba, takes out literally every one of Rebecca's opponents for her, then lies down and takes a nap himself to get rid of another character she has 0 chance of beating in a legitimate fight). Looks like the textbook definition of deus ex machina to me.
People in the stratosphere above Luffy have consistently shown surprise about his abilities. Rebecca did not expect Luffy to be as strong as he was. Just like Crocodile. Just like Enel. Just like pretty much everyone in the series pre-timeskip. Those who you specified as not commenting in this tournament are aware of just who Luffy is. Rebecca was not, and still isn't.
Croc and Enel underestimated Luffy because they deemed themselves superior while fighting him, as they had clear advantages at first, then Luffy suddenly displayed a trait they'd never seen before. That's what surprised them. At no point did Rebecca show any feat that indicates she's in the same stratosphere as Luffy, unless you count getting pinned down by someone that's eating to be "equal". The reason Rebecca was in awe about Luffy's ability, and the others were not, is because Rebecca isn't in the same league as these monsters. I don't see how you could possibly argue otherwise.
You mean in the isolated system of block B, which contained no overlap with block D at all allowing zero points of comparison for the speeds involved?
It's the same tournament, and we can see the speed at which the fighting occurs. Both Rebecca and Bluegilly dodged fodder with ease and were not hit by named characters until a character pulled off a block clearing move. And before you make the argument that Rebecca dodged Cavendish's attack, she did not, this is a fact.
I am treating Hakuba as a separate character for the moment, since we know for a fact that he's stronger than Cavendish, thus Cavendish himself hasn't done anything of particular note in block D, which you'd have thought he would have if he was that much stronger.
Cavendish may not have done much on panel in block D, but pretty much nobody got any meaningful panel time. However, he displayed pretty impressive feats of strength matching Don Chinjao and slamming Luffy to the ground. Oda already showed us that Cavendish is a beast, he merely told us that Cavendish's other personality is even more impressive. Also, I highly doubt a Vice Admiral would call Cavendish's non-Hakuba personality a "prodigy with the sword" if there wasn't something backing it.
Well this is entirely down to your faith, or lack thereof, that Oda will be able to make something of the fact that she's advanced. I think maybe you're misusing the phrase 'pyrrhic victory', because it means a technical victory which has so great a cost that it might as well be a defeat. Rebecca has lost nothing by advancing, however she does it. She never had anything to lose from the start, and if by some miracle she wins, she's achieved what she was aiming for. If, for example, she managed to defeat Doflamingo but Soldier-san died as a result of her actions, that would be a pyrrhic victory.
You keep pointing out just how strong the enemies she's going to be fighting are. Has she backed down even once? No. She's not stupid enough to believe she's the biggest fish in the pond, but she's still trying. That's determination. She's been enduring the jeers of the crowd and the scorn of pretty much everyone in the entire country for years, she's still fighting, she still believes in herself and keeps going. That's willpower. If you think the fact that she cries about it somehow undoes that then I guess that just means I find her more empathetic than you.
A pyrrhic victory is basically a victory that might as well be a defeat: Rebecca wins block D, but she's going to be pummeled by Jesus Burgess in the next round instead, which I'd imagine is going to do a whole lot more damage than what anyone in block D could pull off. She may as well have lost already. And if by some miracle Rebecca does win, then chances are slim to none that this is accomplished without employing deus ex. In which case, my original point about Rebecca being poorly handled plot wise still stands.
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It's the same tournament, and we can see the speed at which the fighting occurs. Both Rebecca and Bluegilly dodged fodder with ease and were not hit by named characters until a character pulled off a block clearing move. And before you make the argument that Rebecca dodged Cavendish's attack, she did not, this is a fact.
It's a bit amusing to see someone feel himself qualified enough to argue against Oda.
Oda has Sabo, a qualified observer make it clear that it wasn't luck but skill. And yet you question it?
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Certainly a good point about Cavendish/ Hakuba. Early into his appearance he was shown with his book of wanted posters of people more famous than him he wanted to kill. This chapter it's revealed he's a MPD who ran away to become a pirate when his crimes were revealed. That implies if he wasn't comfortable with Hakuba before then he certainly is now and actively counts on the power transformation gives him.
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Rebecca being the only not knocked out by Hakuba doesn't necessarily mean that she was stronger than the others (discussing that would be useless). It just means that she had the best set of skills to deal against Hakuba.
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Rebecca being the only not knocked out by Hakuba doesn't necessarily mean that she was stronger than the others (discussing that would be useless). It just means that she had the best set of skills to deal against Hakuba.
No but it does mean that her observational skills and speed was far superior to anyone else there.
The rest didn't even see him, she saw his movements and managed to move out of the way.
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something interesting I read on reddit (credit to divinesleeper):
So apparently the murders from the Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde novel take place on Cavendish Square. That seems too good to be a coincidence.
Freakin' Oda man…
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No but it does mean that her observational skills and speed was far superior to anyone else there.
The rest didn't even see him, she saw his movements and managed to move out of the way.
I don't disagree with that.
OP characters have different kinds of strength. Speed and CoO are part of Rebecca's.
This is why the idea of overall strength is silly and not worth discussing about, especially when DFs are involved.
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It's a bit amusing to see someone feel himself qualified enough to argue against Oda.
Oda has Sabo, a qualified observer make it clear that it wasn't luck but skill. And yet you question it?
Maybe he(the user) meant that Rebecca was force to just diminuate the impact with a helmet rather than actually dodge.
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No but it does mean that her observational skills and speed was far superior to anyone else there.
The rest didn't even see him, she saw his movements and managed to move out of the way.
She avoid a critical rather than get out of the way. Still pretty good anyway.
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For Dofla's POV, I think this is a case of more trusting his crew rather than underestimating the opponent.
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Maybe. But it'd still be silly, since he aimed for her head and all he caught was part of the helmet.
If that's not making him miss then i don't know what is.
Both are a miss but they are different. And it could indicate that while Rebecca is able to perceive and react to Hakuba she is way slower than him and his therefore force to take some damage anyway. Kinda remind of Momanga stabbing himself but it may comes from me not liking Rebecca.
But do you people Hakuba can sustain a fight or does he simply goes around slicing everything in his way?
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C'mon people Doflmaingo is not underestimating the Strawhats.
No but it does mean that her observational skills and speed was far superior to anyone else there.
The rest didn't even see him, she saw his movements and managed to move out of the way.
I don't enjoy Rebeca's character but I give her credit for her accomplishments, she was faster than does guys with good observation haki and apparently she was the only one that didn't know about Hakuba but she stayed calm and acted accordingly to the situation, so props to her.
I wonder what Oda is planning since her deal is to stop Toy Soldier and be happy but the assault already started and she's still on the game and with guys that are way above her level.
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My quick summary:
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Now I see why people say Rebecca's battle style is unique. She is only one character who wins using rules and technicalities, instead of actual abilities.
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Strange story of Dr. Cabbage and Mr. Horse is best part of the chapter. I want to see British-themed island now, shame it's not in new world.
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Viola is best princess until (and if) dwarf princess proves otherwise.
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Finally Doflamingo doesn't know something. The "dwarves" as Luffy calls them are a major wildcard along with Ussop and Robin already underground.
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It's a bit amusing to see someone feel himself qualified enough to argue against Oda.
Oda has Sabo, a qualified observer make it clear that it wasn't luck but skill. And yet you question it?
Rebecca takes a hit, it draws blood, and is shown temporarily taken out, do you want me to post every panel of this or something? Sure it may have been skill that it wasn't a direct, 100% damage hit, which allowed her to stay down for a shorter time than anyone else, but it's a hit taken nonetheless. If this were say, Lucky Roo, it probably doesn't connect at all. Also, my Japanese is shit, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Sabo's comment was something like "I don't think it was solely luck" or something like that, implying that it was a combination of skill and luck.
@wolfwood:Maybe. But it'd still be silly, since he aimed for her head and all he caught was part of the helmet.
If that's not making him miss then i don't know what is.
Again, there's a difference between a direct hit, a grazing hit, and a miss. Rebecca's case falls under the middle category. I don't know why you're trying to argue otherwise.
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Rebecca takes a hit, it draws blood, and is shown temporarily taken out, do you want me to post every panel of this or something? Sure it may have been skill that it wasn't a direct, 100% damage hit, which allowed her to stay down for a shorter time than anyone else, but it's a hit taken nonetheless. If this were say, Lucky Roo, it probably doesn't connect at all. Also, my Japanese is shit, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Sabo's comment was something like "I don't think it was solely luck" or something like that, implying that it was a combination of skill and luck.
At best it was a glancing blow, that it knocked her over speaks more to her fraility than it does her defense.
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At best it was a glancing blow, that it knocked her over speaks more to her fraility than it does her defense.
A glancing blow is a hit nonetheless. If you get into a potentially dangerous traffic incident and take a glancing blow instead of a head on collision, you'd breathe a sigh of relief that you escaped without any serious injuries. But you're still coughing up that dough for a new headlight.
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are people ready for
spopovitch vs videlburgess vs rebecca in the finals i wonder how it will be handled will there be one on ones or another battle royale -
Tobi still no download link? I check at thread but no chapter for 734
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The Strawhats' ability to make allies wherever they go is, as Mihawk noted about Luffy, the most dangerous ability, and it's the aspect of the strawhats that Doflamingo underestimates.
No matter what, you almost never end up fighting just the strawhats. Absolutely anyone else present who concievably could side with them against you, will. Age-old sworn enemies will cooperate against you, your own disloyal people will betray you - and probably at the worst possible time. Back on Punk Hazard, they talked about Law creating a "worst-case scenario", but that's what the strawhats somehow manage to do nearly everywhere they go.
Poor Doflamingo doesn't stand a chance.
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IMO Doflo is underestimating the Strawhat crew.
Not about their abilities , the "they can't beat my crew", he has reason to trust his crew.
As a Shichibukai I can see him being one of the few that would use the info of the Marines on the Strawhats to gather info of their abilities, so would assume to have a good idea of what they can do VS his own crew.What he is forgetting is the history of Luffy & Strawhats and how these underdogs (well to the DD crew they are underdogs, being smaller and less experienced) have gone, done and survived things that should have destroyed other crews.
Lets just name the top 3 really big things, cause lets face it, DD won't care that Luffy defeated Crocodile. Nor do I list surviving the attack by Kizaru, PXs and Santomaru, as their escape is due to Kuma's interference.
1- Crew attack Innes Lobby to rescue arrested crewmate, it gets Buster Called. They do the impossible as a rookie crew, they not only free the crewmate but survive the buster call. (don't mention the allies 'cause Marines mistook them for Strawhat crew at event)
2- Luffy infiltrates Impel Down, makes allies and does damage. While Luffy failed to free Ace before he's shipped to Marineford, but Luffy still did the impossible - break in then out of Impel Down.
3- With allies, Luffy party-crashes the War at Marineford. While he failed to save Ace's life, he still did something impossible for a rookie- get involved in a war of bigshots, survive an attack from Sengoku, free Ace (with ally from ID) from the execution platform, survive a hit from an admiral, made allies that helped him get off island in the end.Mihawk said it himself, Luffy has a great power to make allies. This has paid off quite often.
What Doflo is underestimating is the unpredictability of Luffy that has already been proven to exist in just those 3 events.
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Hakuba was directly aiming at her so the two sources of "luck" were his intention to hit at her head and her being targeted last which allowed her to move far enough not to get killed.
Moreover it wasn't a deus ex machina because we didn't know the full extent of most fighters' abilities.
The reason she couldn't estimate Luffy's strength is probably because she didn't learn to use Kenbunshoku Haki this way. However, she specializes in predicting attacks and uses some Aikido-like fighting style. So it's understandable that she can't just use her speed like Cavendish or Hakuba to slice everyone while being able handle physically superior opponents.
However, I don't deny that there some inconsistencies and the surprise could've been handled even better.
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A glancing blow is a hit nonetheless. If you get into a potentially dangerous traffic incident and take a glancing blow instead of a head on collision, you'd breathe a sigh of relief that you escaped without any serious injuries. But you're still coughing up that dough for a new headlight.
This is all getting a bit semantical. The point Oda clearly meant to showcase was that Rebecca had the insane speed and observational skills to keep up with, see the blows coming and move her body accordingly to avoid being killed by a man who is essentially the new worlds answer to captain Kuro.
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Rebecca dodged the attack skillfully, it shows her seeing the blur, acknowledging the attack, and then dodging to the best of her ability which gave her the least amount of damage allowing her to come to quicker than all other contestants.
If you plan for all reasonable outcomes with 100% of your resources you are doing your best not underestimating. Doflamingo has horrible luck with unknown factors in this situation. He isn't ignoring any details he's simply unaware of some vital information, sound famaliar?
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Rebecca being stronger then the others has nothing to do with it
her skill set was set up as immense speed and agility while always being on defense, it was the perfect way for a above average but still out of her league character like Rebecca to win this round against superior opponents, given you have a bizzare enough situation where someone is so fast that she can barley dodge, while everyone else who has diffrent skill sets (endurance, strength, long range attacking etc.) gets knocked out, and then that person finds a way to be to get disqualified…. which somehow Oda found a way
and I can't stress this enough, Oda's built a extremely fantastic fantasy setting, story and characters, almost anything he writes would seem in place in the one piece world, as he's built the fantasy aspect overtime, what other series could this alter ego who only comes out when you sleep be acceptable
Oda can have anything from Giants to Dinosaurs, dwarves and sky islands, cyborgs, mermaids and fishmen even aliens. and it all seems in place in this fantasy land
where as if you inserted half this stuff in another manga it would seem so out of place, being so varying and expansive, but somehow in this world Oda's built just about anything he writes seems plausible now, he could make a teddy bear android that runs on farts and somehow it would work
show me another series like this, the only one I can think of, off the top of my head is adventure land, but that's just because it's all about random.... the only other one maybe is One Punch man.... and that's a stretch
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what I'm catching up on currently: Gintama, lone wolf & cub, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and lost in poem (by our very own AP member GEPPETTOSMONSTER)
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Oh man, has anyone thought of how a Bartolomeo vs Rebecca match up would be handled? I mean on one side there´s Barto with his Barriers (of course he can attack with them ) but its in general a defensive ability; on the other hand there´s Rebeca waiting for a chance to dodge and counter using the enemy´s strenght. What I´m trying to get at is that this kind of match up might end up being a staring contest before resolving. I´m not speaking about power here but about how both of their techniques are based around defense..
Lol I just hope that Sabo doesn´t have a defensive fruit or this might end up being the most defensive tournament finalee I´ve seen in manga. Just in case if he does, well I´ll sign this post with date and hour lol…
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are people ready for
spopovitch vs videlburgess vs rebecca in the finals i wonder how it will be handled will there be one on ones or another battle royaleGohan
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