@HTC:
A little size difference didn't stop Otohime from giving birth to Shirahoshi …
Christ… Are you doing this on purpose or are you really that dumb? Try comparing Otohime and Neptune's sizes (and take into account that they're both fish so it could somehow work), and then do the same with a samurai- who, if we judge by Kinemon's height, are tall as fuck- and a dwarf.
Oda has been building the upcoming flashback and the events yet to come almost perfectly. This arc will probably be a turning point in OP and could be a testimony to how much Oda's writing skills grew over the course of his manga.
Great chapter. Barto and Chinjao are hilarious, the interaction between Luffy and Blackbeard was an appetizer, and the classic damsel in distress is nicely brought here. Can't wait for the next few chapters.
@HTC:
Rebecca's father is a samurai while her mother is a dwarf
You are now going to frigging explain me how a 10-cm tall dwarf can have sex with a human without frigging dying. Or how she can give birth to a human-sized newborn. I pretend that!
Eh, fuck it.
@Monkey:
And Luffy is probably somewhere near lower Warlord level by now, like around Jimbei. And certainly around if not above Law.
definitely.
he can even stop cavendish sword strike easily after a big fight.
luffy still hasnt shown his full strenght.
damn we need a double chap this arc shit is getting intense. Next chapter is probably going to show more law. But hopfully it doesn't end up luffy giving the fruit to Rebecca seems its heading down that path
So… is it confirmed that 'that person' Barto was talking about getting the Mera Mera fruit for is, in fact, Luffy?
Don is hilariously inept at being thankful.
Bart is well, weirdly into one dude. And did he just cut out the tongue of that guy?
And is there any clarification on what Burgeuss meant about that Shilliew comment?
So… is it confirmed that 'that person' Barto was talking about getting the Mera Mera fruit for is, in fact, Luffy?
Seems to be the case, unfortunately :getlost:.
Is anyone else but me totally hating Bartolomeo's character reveal this chapter ?
You are now going to frigging explain me how a 10-cm tall dwarf can have sex with a human without frigging dying. Or how she can give birth to a human-sized newborn. I pretend that!
not saying this is what i think. cause its not.
but it would be possible if the dwarf was a male and the human was a female.
specially with that big thing they have coming out of their back.:ninja:
Originally Posted by Monkey King 
Shut up junior, you don't even understand the first thing about the discussion. Go masturbate by yourself.
@Monkey:
And Luffy is probably somewhere near lower Warlord level by now, like around Jimbei. And certainly around if not above Law.
I get the feeling Luffy may be higher than Mid tier Warlord, if he fights Doflamingo we shall know for sure. Rayleigh himself said he couldn't teach Luffy any more and Luffy stayed on the island a further six months as he was ahead of time, Rayleigh said it would only need time and practice after that. Another big question mark is how big an improvement Zoro gained, did Zoro match Mihawk before he finished his training with him and what happened to Zoro's eye (does his eye now work like Mihawks). Luffy and Zoro need proper ranked (Admiral/Shichibukai etc) opponents before we will know for sure for either of them.
@wolfwoof:
Don is hilariously inept at being thankful.
Bart is well, weirdly into one dude. And did he just cut out the tongue of that guy?
And is there any clarification on what Burgeuss meant about that Shilliew comment?
Both Aokiji and Shiliew being formerly associated with the government, I guess.
@Lady:
Seems to be the case, unfortunately :getlost:.
Is anyone else but me totally hating Bartolomeo's character reveal this chapter ?
there is a couple that think like you.
but this way is better and funnier and just…
he is a total badass without care. trollish. mean. despicable.
and then sees luffy and melts and becomes gawkish.
epic
I wonder if he's still smiling after the twist that Luffy kicked his ass.
He wont be smiling when he realises that everyone is converging on his factory to destroy it while he allows Law to play for time, he has no idea at the moment. Looking forward to seeing the look on his face when he does. Doflamingo needs to go down as it will be a clear indicator of Luffy's new level and a perfect precursor to taking on a Yonkou.
not saying this is what i think. cause its not.
but it would be possible if the dwarf was a male and the human was a female.
specially with that big thing they have coming out of their back.:ninja:
I think Robin's in trouble :ninja:
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Loved the entire chapter, but I always particularly like these small moments of Luffy's real character - when he completely subdues Rebecca while still eating, and says "I won't fight anyone that treats me to a meal". It's a pretty minor comment but it's the kind of thing we don't often get from Luffy, and I liked it a lot. Not to mention how that whole mini-fight was already hilarious.
Hahaha! Chapter is more hilarious than I thought. Bartolomeo is so awesome, he's like a highschool girl giggling and stuff.
And why are the blackbeards comparing Aokiji to Shiliew? It makes it look like he's joining Blackbeard. Originally, I thought that he probably gave Blackbeard info that the fruit in the tournament is fake and Burguess still go 'coz apparently "he don't trust him". But since Shiliew is brought in, this will not be the case.
Rebecka is too damn fine to be a "gladiator under contract". Haven't anyone in the Doflamingo family noticed her?
Up until maybe next issue, Luffy never really hated Doflamingo. Things are gonna changed after this fateful meeting with the "convicts". Doflamingo has the potential (if not already) to be the most malevolent thing introduced in the story so far (slave ring, wmd dealer, connection with the tenryubito-assholes… seriously, we just like him because he is pretty well-written). I know that Doflamingo is hyped to be really powerful and we may get a Crocodile kind of fight out of him, but now I don't want that. I wish that Luffy destroys him completely on round one. I don't want him to recognize Luffy as simply strong, I want him to get a fucking trauma out of that battle and erase the constant smirk off his face.
@Monkey:
1. Wait for a real translation and not mangapanda for Rebecca's line.
2. Nothing is going on. Samurai are tough warrior people, they don't eat food offered by enemies. Kinemon recognized the Strawhats as friends.
Agreed 16 characters
Would you like a Blast?
100000000000000 Berries please.
Blasting Destinations: Gotham city, Jaya, central perk, E. R.
I mean Bartolomeo acting like a gay in a sense and Chinjao failing to deliver his gratitude in a opposite fashion. Normal embarassing moments and misunderstandings are ok with me, but I guess this time it was kinda over that line. For me.
For fuck's sake…. Almost every single page of this thread has some sort of comment about how "gay" Bart is. You guys have some issues.
Anyway, this chapter had a lot of great characterization for two previously enigmatic characters, so that was fun. I don't see Bart as crewmate material, since he already has his own crew, but I'm guessing he'll be a convenient ally. Looks like Luffy's army just keeps growing and growing.
@Devil:
Anyone saying Chinjao is fodder or weak by any means should get headbutted right now.
For me it's something like:
Elizabello/Chinjao/Lucy > Bellamy ( He is kind of a new person )/Gats/Hack/Funk brothers > everyone else.
Damn, I'm enjoying this tournament a lot. I like Cabbage, Bartolomeo and the dwarves too, but I'm waiting for them to do more.
WTF? gats? His only power is to comment you to death or cheer for you in an unbiased manner… lol sure..
HAHAHAHHA. Barto is THE fanboy. I'm not sure about the translations at mangapanda but the Luffy-senpai thing. Pure win. He's like "oh gosh i wanna talk to him. but how?"
It's nice to see a bit of Blackbeard through his den den mushi. And that confrontation between him and Luffy. Argh, so excited for the day they actually meet.
I like how Don Chinjao said he'll put his grandchildren under Luffy's wing. Now he has some powerful allies. Starting to become a yonkou level pirate.
Rebecca is interesting. I'd like to see more of her.
This was friggen hillarious. Barto's like one of those infatuated silly girls in harem manga xD
The convict gladiators seem a bit stereotypical, we've seen that sort of group a lot in past. Like the shadowless people of Thriller Bark or the Angle Beach inhabitants in Skypia.
The Blackbeard Aokiji thing didn't really look like anything more than a proposal that Burgess doesn't like but Blackbeard is taking serious. Spoiler made it sound like a done deal.
And yes Rebecca looks like Nami and she acts like her too. They both work for the bad guys unreachable goals to be set free.
Hey would you look at that. Luffy's fighting one of those invincible swordsmen
Amazing that he hasn't gotten his arms chopped off yet
@HTC:
Thought of something but it all depends on whether or not this translation (mangastream) is accurate.
What if Ricky is Rebecca's grandfather and Rebecca's father is a samurai while her mother is a dwarf, meaning, Rebecca's the dwarf princess?
Please move this to dumb predictions thread. We've already seen the silhouette of the dwarf princess, she looks NOTHING like Rebecca. We also gotten her name so no to Rebecca being the dwarf princess :getlost:
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Manshelly, the dwarf princess
Rebecca, gladiator [/hide]
@wolfwoof:
Don is hilariously inept at being thankful.
Seems that he's like his grandson Sai in that regard lol
@Lady:
I think Robin's in trouble :ninja:
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:blink:maybe thats why she didnt say anything to him for being there
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@wolfwoof:
Hey would you look at that. Luffy's fighting one of those invincible swordsmen
Amazing that he hasn't gotten his arms chopped off yet
that's because he only used one sword. maybe if he used three…:ninja:
Originally Posted by Monkey King
Shut up junior, you don't even understand the first thing about the discussion. Go masturbate by yourself.
The bit with Rebecca was really, really annoying. I'm sick of how women are portrayed in OP.
Too good of a chapter for me not to comment on, so here we go.
Consider Bartelomeo's demeanor in this chapter to be mine, I was just like a giddy schoolgirl. Oda's style was off the charts this chapter: what we have in this boiling chaotic stew is fluid chaos, a variety of expressions, and different situations being transitioned into to perk the reader's eye that contrast with what came before to cause a kind of vertigo. This chapter seems to be the ultimate culmination of Oda's goofy style, which can put a hardened badass into the clown car and have him come out (metaphorically) with round shiny clown shoes and makeup. That's what happened to Bart here. I mean sure you can predict the general structure of a One Piece arc – like you can predict the general structure of a lot of things so what use is saying that, really? -- but the small events therein that fill in the structure? Good luck.
Things like Luffy spitting on his hands to stop a sword make One Piece have a more earthy feel to it than empty stories where he could've used whatever intangible ability to stop the sword. It says a lot that Oda can still keep those down home sensibilities in a series with so many wild fantasy elements. Keeping with that goofiness, only in One Piece would you see the main character have a deathly serious conversation with the likely main villain on a snail phone, all the while he sates you and yet keeps you yearning for more with things like seeing the progress of Blackbeard's beard.
But don't just let the character building & clashing star in this chapter. The variety of locations we visited also played a part in providing a feast for the eyes. Things take a trademark breakneck speed turn for the grim near the end, giving this chapter just so many different shades to it.
Very enjoyable.
Captains starting to join Luffy in my book means that at 70% we won't see any more nakamas.
@wolfwoof:
Hey would you look at that. Luffy's fighting one of those invincible swordsmen
Amazing that he hasn't gotten his arms chopped off yet
He stopped the sword with ease the man has become unbelievably strong
@Lady:
Seems to be the case, unfortunately :getlost:.
Is anyone else but me totally hating Bartolomeo's character reveal this chapter ?
well,if he gonna be a troll(a powerful one),it is better this way….:happy:
Oda should learn something from Miyazaki. Rebecca is ridiculous. She looks just like another cute female character, she is half naked and she is weak. Another crying woman.
@Barty's development: The way I see it, it's such an amusing contrast to his troll punk persona, and so…unexpected. I mean, c'mon, would anybody expect the scary looking pirate to go ga-ga over the happy-go-lucky hero?
Rebecca is ridiculous. She looks just like another cute female character
This I agree with.
she is half naked and she is weak. Another crying woman.
This I don't. Maybe you should wait until D Block before calling her "weak"…..plus there's some hints to a tragic backstory, so it's not like she's crying for the sake of just crying.
Sweet! I'm gonna read it later after I get home from work though since the internet on my mobile phone is quite crappy right now.
Another crying woman.
Everyone cries in OP. Don was bawling like a baby like a chapter ago
There's barely an arc that goes by without everyone crying…..Or me crying
hancock VS Bartolomeo
VS 
@Lady:
Seems to be the case, unfortunately :getlost:.
Is anyone else but me totally hating Bartolomeo's character reveal this chapter ?
ahahaha, if you hate this you don't understand ANYTHING about this series.
To Bleach with ye!
Oda should learn something from Miyazaki. Rebecca is ridiculous. She looks just like another cute female character, she is half naked and she is weak. Another crying woman.
Hey, let's like forget the fact Barto was also crying in this chapter. Another crying man.
Oh look, we had a crying old man just a few chapters ago.
@wolfwoof:
Hey would you look at that. Luffy's fighting one of those invincible swordsmen
Amazing that he hasn't gotten his arms chopped off yet
Clearly a mistake on Oda's part, as according to certainsomeone that's impossible.
I think the dude with LoGH avatar or something.
Oda should learn something from Miyazaki. Rebecca is ridiculous. She looks just like another cute female character, she is half naked and she is weak. Another crying woman.
i didn't hear you when Chinjao cried like a baby in middle of a fight. Or when Brownbeard cried when CC betrayed him
Yeah the crying complaint is kind of dumb.
Anyway, I enjoyed this chapter. Things moved along plot wise, funny stuff happened, we got some foreshadowing. Also, Blackbeard's beard on the Denden Mushi.
For fuck's sake…. Almost every single page of this thread has some sort of comment about how "gay" Bart is. You guys have some issues.
Anyway, this chapter had a lot of great characterization for two previously enigmatic characters, so that was fun. I don't see Bart as crewmate material, since he already has his own crew, but I'm guessing he'll be a convenient ally. Looks like Luffy's army just keeps growing and growing.
Um I don't understand the problem?
Barto can't change who he is, and I think we can all agree Luffy is a pretty good guy.
He just has to let Bart know he doesn't swing that way, and everything should be minimally awkward.
Hey, let's like forget the fact Barto was also crying in this chapter. Another crying man.
Oh look, we had a crying old man just a few chapters ago.GEE.
It's what's called convenient memory loss. Forget other close-in-proximity examples that render yours useless, just focus on one person crying that doesn't sit well with you. Then, you get to let the world see that you're a discerning individual who really thinks about the series because they can complain about ineffectual things about it. Impressive. Wow. Great job.
Oda should learn something from Miyazaki. Rebecca is ridiculous. She looks just like another cute female character, she is half naked and she is weak. Another crying woman.
It's because we haven't got her background check yet. Like, is she really a gladiator/a fighter material? To me, she was forced into this situation (with DD in charge) or she force herself into this situation (to help his toys friend). We don't really know what is really happen in Dressrosa since DD in charge…
Oda should learn something from Miyazaki. Rebecca is ridiculous. She looks just like another cute female character, she is half naked and she is weak. Another crying woman.
Hey I'm all for calling Oda's faulting on gender issues but Rebecca isn't weak just because she can't hold it against LUFFY, and crying casually is something people do all the time in OP, this wasn't weak tears it was "I HAVE A DREAM" tears.
We all saw the doubt in Rebeccas attack. She fliched, she hestitated and certainly did not had murderous intent. That is too obvious. She feels powerless and helpless doing it all herself. Wiyh Luffy as an ally, she will go and show her real strength.
All this whining about how women are portrayed, you people disgust me. No respect for the author and his culture.
Also let's forget that vast majority of MEN in the colosseum are also half naked.
Oda should learn something from Miyazaki. Rebecca is ridiculous. She looks just like another cute female character, she is half naked and she is weak. Another crying woman.
Oh look! Another feminist.
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Also let's forget that vast majority of MEN in the colosseum are also half naked.
I think within the context of gladiatorial combat, yeah, it's not really a big deal, but it is part of an ongoing issue. Regardless, the debate has happened one hundred times over.
@wolfwoof:
Everyone cries in OP. Don was bawling like a baby like a chapter ago
There's barely an arc that goes by without everyone crying…..Or me crying
I agree, in this chapter her personal story seems to be so deeply tragic (hunger, fights to the death, prison and what may still come) and this is the day when Toy Soldier (her parental figure since she was a kid, maybe even her dad transformed in a toy soldier) is going to move war on Doflamingo and if she doesn't take the Mera Mera no mi (in her delusion) it's obvious that Doflamingo is going to destroy the army and she's going to lose even Toy soldier..
even Zoro cried when he lost to Mihawk, even Blackbeard when drawn as a kid. There are no hearts made of stone in One Piece
also, Rebecca seems fairly strong among the Colosseum Gladiators, she's just weak compared to the outsiders fighters that have assembled for the Mera Mera no mi.
Sexism debate in the new chapter thread. This happen really frequently.
BTW, mangastream version is out.
Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!
http://readms.com/r/one_piece/720/2041/10 Geez Mangastream must be breaking some records for the most swear words in a scanlation with this chapter.
