Why are we comparing One Piece these mediocre pieces of shit (at best?) this far in the game? I think we established a long time ago that they're not comparable. Simply for the fact that they are so below the grade that Oda sets his standards to.
Naruto and Bleach IV- Sexy time
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Why are we comparing One Piece these mediocre pieces of shit (at best?) this far in the game? I think we established a long time ago that they're not comparable. Simply for the fact that they are so below the grade that Oda sets his standards to.
Ask Monkey D Destiny.
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@Monkey:
It's also worth noting that One Piece has built itself up more slowly and surely than Naruto did. Which resulted in some blander earlier arcs that have overtime paid off and made One Piece all the better for it.
Volume 5 of both mangas.
Volume 5 of Naruto was like a huge blowout of exciting new characters and sights and sounds and potentials.
Volume 5 of One Piece got them Merry, Usopp and introduced Sanji. But the OP world was still really small.
It took till Volume 25 to really get a fuller sense of the wider politics of the OP world.
But it's all a better pay off.The thing that makes Oda better than Kishimoto is that Oda is a god when it comes to planning. He knows not to rush ahead and keep control of his writing, but he has also proven to be good at stand-alone arcs like Skypiea, Davy Back Fight or Thriller Bark, but they're not as exciting. Kishimoto is all like "AH, I GOT AN IDEA, I MUST INTRODUCE THIS IDEA RIGHT NOW WITHOUT ANY BUILD-UP! BUT HM, THIS IDEA WONT WORK WITHOUT THIS THING BEING REMOVED, AH, RIGHT, CHAKRA CAN DO ANYTHING NOW".
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Why are we comparing One Piece these mediocre pieces of shit (at best?) this far in the game? I think we established a long time ago that they're not comparable. Simply for the fact that they are so below the grade that Oda sets his standards to.
I'm talking about early One Piece compared to early Naruto.
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does anyone think nardo chapters 123-158 are better than one piece chapters 87-102????????
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"Naruto really has grown up.." lol i think we see this line every fucking chapter. how many times have the 4th said this already? is someone counting? lol. ormaybe because he's deadhe cant think properly and only know those lines :))
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@Monkey:
I'm talking about early One Piece compared to early Naruto.
For me One Piece always was better than Naruto. Even in his earlier times! I always preferred the build up, the comedy, the action, the art, character designs, history and all the rest in One Piece than in Naruto and I started watching both of them at almost the same time. I still remember, at that time I was the only person(from my group of friends and known people) that preferred One Piece over Naruto. In the conversations about it after trying to convey why I liked One Piece more, It always ended by saying that regardless of tastes, both series were awesome, but now I just can't say the same.
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Well, me on the other hand - I was a Naruto fan first. Years ago, when OP was just around the Arlong Park part I tried to read it (on the awful MSN servers, awful translations and AWFUL resolution) and I just couldn't get in. Yeah, I was more or less a teenager back then, so maybe that's some sort of an excuse. But also - Naruto was in better quality everywhere I knew, I liked the fights and the WHOA moments, like Rock Lee VS Gaara. I got to Naruto around 2003, I was like 14 and the last thing my stupid brain could wrap itself around was the plot building and planning of things. I just wasn't grown up enough for these, so I liked the early Naruto chapters. And to this day I think that the first half of Naruto, till the Naruto VS Sasuke fights, was a really great series, more or less! Yeah, it did decilne in quality, but when the fights did they WHOA, they were really enjoyable - the Neji VS that spider sound guy that Orochimaru sent had some great planning, they really did try to analazy each other.
But yeah, after OP and the awful MSN scanlations didn't bring me in, I just forgot about the series for a few years. Then I remembered about it and tried to get in once more - this time it clicked, the scanlation was a little better, I saw how heartbreaking the stories of the characters were (as a kid I think I skipped some of them, because the scanlation was so awful it was hard to see anything, and the font/translation didn't help). So, yeah, I might've been a Narutard back in the day, but I did go back to OP, did try it and did love it. -
http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Naruto/Naruto-643/
so uhh
I know it's said time and time again, but could this war be any more boring??? -
Kishi is clearly speaking through Obito when he said "This world holds no meaning anymore."
We agree, Kishi…
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Fairy Tail – Something dangerous!!
a) Instantly resolved a chapter or two later
b) Saying the word "friendship"
c) What new element can we arbitrarily shove down Natsu's gob?Naruto – Something dangerous!!
a) It has something to do with the Uchiha, as does everything else on the planet
b) But don't you know who my grandpappy was? Now I am hope
c) Movieverse-- a new different color of chakra for his Rasengan!!BLEACH –Something dangerous!!
a) Ichigo isn't enough of a mutant with no agency of his own, let's roll him yet another class courtesy of some evil mastermind
b) WIN BECAUSE HAVE TO
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So wait, you can transfer chakra when you bump fists?
Why don't they just drain these edo tensei infinite chakra bastardizations for all their worth then.
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@Monkey:
How about you lay off your annoying Goda wank for a moment and try to understand the reasons a lot people, including a lot of OP fans, think Naruto used to be as good as One Piece before it went downhill?
Name them…
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Part I of Naruto is overrated, as delineated in my bitching about the logic of the Chuunin Exam + everyone's bitching about inconsistent world-building in general
I really want to see what a fully fleshed society would be like if inhabited by people who can basically disguise themselves as other people and even teleport (the log substitution thing) with ease
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Is it just me or is Madara going to end up dying because he does not know Edo Tensei won't help against those black orbs?
I didn't know the other side of the Kyuubi was so comforting. That was a surprise. -
WTF…now MP/MR have posted the Chinese scan....assholes...
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Ahahaha oh wow. Mangapanda's scans look even shittier than usual, and you can clearly see the baidu logo they took the chapter from.
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They even stole the tran from NF…and may not be perfect(not that they care)....
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Well, on the upside, I'm willing to bet that the translation they stole is better than the one they usually use?
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Tobi's six paths of pain hd their Bijuu placed into them as edo tensei
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was watching the anime and it just struck me
i don't know what was shown in the anime,but in the manga it was clearly said that Obito didn't put any bijuus in those edo jins…he kept them all inside Gedo Mazo and used chakra rods to transport chakras to edo bodies....
if you only watch anime,listen careully what Son Goku(4 tails) will say to Naruto once Naruto removes the binding rods from his/jin's body... -
I know mangapanda doesn't care but releasing the chapter so soon(even more than usual) and regarding that the raws are the leaked ones from shueisha will that bring problems.
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Come on Orochimaru, get there already. You might've become a shell of your former self, but you are still leagues better than the guy who keeps repeating the same "The world must end" line.
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Why's One Piece not out then yet? If they're so focused on releasing popular stuff as fast as possible, it seems weird there'd be such a long wait between those two…
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the one piece chap only had 8 pages leaked
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Nope, there's the whole chapter around on the internetz.
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They probably don't have any translations they could rip off.
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^we all know they have no clue about Japanese or English, but shouldn't MP at least be able to translate Chinese, being a Chinese group and all?
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I thought Mangapanda WAS Chinese. So they shouldn't have trouble translating it?
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That was one of the worst quality scanlation that I have ever seen, on the plus side it's almost Naruto's birthday!!!!
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All of these akatsuki thing, the war and the moon plan, turns out to be a surprise party for naruto?
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Why's One Piece not out then yet? If they're so focused on releasing popular stuff as fast as possible, it seems weird there'd be such a long wait between those two…
that release is from a small group…MP/MR just decided to host it....otherwise they lose viewers...spanish and french trans of it already came out yesterday.....that's why they couldn't wait any longer i guess....
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i don't know what was shown in the anime,but in the manga it was clearly said that Obito didn't put any bijuus in those edo jins…he kept them all inside Gedo Mazo and used chakra rods to transport chakras to edo bodies....
if you only watch anime,listen careully what Son Goku(4 tails) will say to Naruto once Naruto removes the binding rods from his/jin's body...–- Update From New Post Merge ---
i don't know what was shown in the anime,but in the manga it was clearly said that Obito didn't put any bijuus in those edo jins…he kept them all inside Gedo Mazo and used chakra rods to transport chakras to edo bodies....
if you only watch anime,listen careully what Son Goku(4 tails) will say to Naruto once Naruto removes the binding rods from his/jin's body...First page says: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565. P.s, the Bijuu were in the edo bodies, He used the rods to perform the sealing jutsu as well as bind their will so they couldn't control themselves. The Bijuu only went back into the sealing thingy when Obito removed them
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Well that was … interesting.
Well, actually it wasn't.
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Great move … using the day of the person who you "love" died to destroy the world when that person didn't even tell you if they loved you or not ... what a villain :ninja:
And now Minato and Naruto can just share their Kyubi using just their fists .... how lame
When will this terrible terrible war end??? Someone just use a nuclear bomb on them all so we can all move on!!
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Loving all these posts like "Naruto is so shit it always has been look at me I'm so jaded by my experiences this manga is so shit it was never good omg why did people ever like this shit compare any part of OP to any part of Naruto and OP wins because Naruto was always shit did I mention Naruto was always shit no punctuation but maybe many exclamations or question marks?!?!?!?!?"
If it was always so bad, why did you ever read it . . . ?
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I believe the standard curve of Naruto investment is something along the lines of
- Genuine enjoyment through the Tsunade arc, based on legitimately good story and story setup.
- Loss of interest during the incredibly draggy Sasuke in a Pot arc
- Interest briefly rekindled by Time Skip, and mysterious Akatsuki re-introduction
- Gradual waning of interest as it becomes clear that Kishimoto can't pay off his setups, and had no real plan for his story
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Is there a even more pathetic villain than Obito off all shonen?
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Is there a even more pathetic villain than Obito off all shonen?
Because to me that kinda hard.He is difficult to top in the category of painfully trying too hard
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He is difficult to top in the category of painfully trying too hard
who has the second and third places on your opinion?
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who has the second and third places on your opinion?
I dunno but that Oracion Seis dude who became PURE DESTRUCTION from FT definitely comes to mind
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I dunno but that Oracion Seis dude who became PURE DESTRUCTION from FT definitely comes to mind
Completly forgot about that dude… i think I forgot half the story of fairy tail.
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Oracion Seis – Like Akatsuki only everyone is clinically braindead
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Isn't that one with the kuma wanabee isn't it?
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@The:
I believe the standard curve of Naruto investment is something along the lines of
- Genuine enjoyment through the Tsunade arc, based on legitimately good story and story setup.
- Loss of interest during the incredibly draggy Sasuke in a Pot arc
- Interest briefly rekindled by Time Skip, and mysterious Akatsuki re-introduction
- Gradual waning of interest as it becomes clear that Kishimoto can't pay off his setups, and had no real plan for his story
Kind of agree with you there although the only thing to really interest me after the timeskip was the possibility for jiraiya to finally kick some ass and parts of the pain invasion arc after i had choosen to ignore the bad storytelling.
I think what kept me going back to naruto after the tsunade arc was fanfiction at that time but since I don't read that anymore I just come back because of morbid curiosity (like the people who have to drive extra slowly past a car accident just to watch)
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http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565/2
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http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565/2 First page says: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/565. P.s, the Bijuu were in the edo bodies, He used the rods to perform the sealing jutsu as well as bind their will so they couldn't control themselves. The Bijuu only went back into the sealing thingy when Obito removed them
that was bijuu chakras transported to jin via binding rod…you should have read thereafter...here is where Son Goku explain it...
http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v60/c570/4.html
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Is there a even more pathetic villain than Obito off all shonen?
Because to me that kinda hard.2nd 'Friend' in 20th/21st Century Boys…..
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Loving all these posts like "Naruto is so shit it always has been look at me I'm so jaded by my experiences this manga is so shit it was never good omg why did people ever like this shit compare any part of OP to any part of Naruto and OP wins because Naruto was always shit did I mention Naruto was always shit no punctuation but maybe many exclamations or question marks?!?!?!?!?"
If it was always so bad, why did you ever read it . . . ?
I'd love to see you quote even one post saying that.
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Wait, people actually didn't like the 'Sasuke in the pot' arc?
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@Aru:
Wait, people actually didn't like the 'Sasuke in the pot' arc?
You meant to write "Wait, people actually liked the "Sasuke in the pot' arc?" right?
Because what a turd that was.
It's where everything went wrong. -
I only liked the Sasuke in a Pot arc for the Neji and Rock Lee/Gaara vs kidnappers fights. Other than that I could care less about Choji and I don't even remember Shikamaru's battle. And of course I never liked Sasuke.
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I liked the Sasuke in a pot arc. I also liked quite a lot of Naruto post timeskip. Naruto has had its ups and downs but ever since the Pein invasion of the leaf village it has just been consistently poor.