what's up with the tattoo on luffy's arm? or has that been there for a while and i'm just an idiot?
Chapter 594: "Message" Discussion
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I think there are two prominent theories on the bells
Which grove to meet at
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wait until the new year to meet.
The first one seems unlikely because they have their cards. Why would they need to know an exact location when they could just move the main card to the location where they want them to meet?
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I just hope Franky gets his old face back, thats all I want.
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And I highly doubt whoever it was has been removed from the story. Do you really expect any of them to go, "Oh darn, Blackbeard beat me so I guess I should just give up right now"?
Do you seriously expect, in the New World, for Blackbeard just to "beat" him?
lol, no way Blackbeard is just gonna casually go away after beating him, he's gonna straight up murder that guy
"So Blackbeard decided to hunt after one of the big rookies, hun?"
Blackbeard is not gonna hunt a guy, get there, defeat him and go away "hahaha, nice match, you were good there"Derp
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Franky certainly doesn't look super here.
SUPER Scary.
About the timeskip, if it happens I hope it'll make things more epic instead of having lots and lots of boring flashbacks. Not saying Oda does boring flashbacks, but for all the crew it would be atleast 9 flashbacks.
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HOLY SHIT! Franky! You look like the Terminator! If I didn't love Zoicite so much, I'd make him my avatar.
And why doesn't Brooke just walk OUT of the prison cage. He's thin enough to.
I have a feeling that the time skip is correct, and I sort of don't want that to be true.
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SUPER Scary.
About the timeskip, if it happens I hope it'll make things more epic instead of having lots and lots of boring flashbacks.
If a timeskip, which i don't think, will happen, I hope that we will see a change in the appearance of the SHs
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OH GOD, Franky's face! hahahahaha
so that's what they mean by half the face blown off.Straight outta horror movie.
i had more of a terminator feeling from it
i guess i also am watching sarah connor chronicles right now on netflix so maybe thats why
also is this forsooth a word, or is it supposed to be sounding like that cause he has no like lips or something
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If one of the 3 admirals is promoted, will one of the vice admirals be promoted to fill his spot?
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It's a good thing that Akainu isn't fleet admiral. From what we see they don't do anything until the last minute when things are looking really bad in major wars. From what we saw of Aokiji compared to Akainu in the war he's more suited for the role of making decisions, doing paper work, scolding Smoker for doing something crazy (like Sengoku scolds Garp), and facepalming at the marines failures or an outrageous event a pirate caused (instead of overreacting like Sengoku).
That's not Akainu's style. He needs to be out there hunting pirate scum making sure they die for the greater good.
If Aokiji gets the job I hope a new characters is introduced to fill the empty admiral spot.
@SGRaaize:Its not about being two Supernovas, its about having two generic killers in the same >team, both of them Supernovas
But I was surprised that Kidd was more of the rocker insane guy and Killer was more of the smart guyThat's kinda Kidd's crew entire theme. Rejects that will kill you when mocked.
But yeah, as I said before, it wouldn't make much sense to have him killed, although it would have been a far better choice than the awesomeness reincarnated that is Capone Bege
And his shtick is awesome, his Devil Fruit may not be OMG SHIT IS AWESOME, but its original and fits very well with his style.
Also, for god's sake, I respect your arguing skills, but why the fuck do you say stuff like "lawls" and "weaksauce"? FFFFFFFFFF
Capone is lame. And lawls at him being awesome or any kind of awesomeness. AND his DF is weaksauce. The condiment of failures. The DF is cool for an ambush but it's main value is quantity > quality. Now yeah there's possibly more things he could do with it but so far he's a clear candidate for one of the first SNs to die. Unless Oda is gonna surprise us by killing Drake it's gonna be between Urouge, Capone, and Apoo.
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Do you seriously expect, in the New World, for Blackbeard just to "beat" him?
lol, no way Blackbeard is just gonna casually go away after beating him, he's gonna straight up murder that guy
"So Blackbeard decided to hunt after one of the big rookies, hun?"
Blackbeard is not gonna hunt a guy, get there, defeat him and go away "hahaha, nice match, you were good there"Derp
Blackbeard hasn't shown to be needlessly brutal. He believes in fate. He'd likely beat somebody till they don't move then move on. Not check if they're alive and finish them if they are not. Fate decided that person got to live if they survived his assault.
Even his massacre of level 6 was him allowing fate to decide who joined his crew instead of asking who wants to come or what they had to offer him.
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And I highly doubt whoever it was has been removed from the story. Do you really expect any of them to go, "Oh darn, Blackbeard beat me so I guess I should just give up right now"?
If he's dead as he seems, I guess he will be quite removed from the story, yes…
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@Ari:
SA2Y= Shabondy Archipelago in two years?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I hope not. That would be dumb.
But then Nami's comment would make sense.Sadly, this is my line of thought. From what we heard and saw, the marking on Luffy's arm is the only thing that seemed like it could be a message. Though 2 years seems like way too long of a timeskip, it makes since. The crew would get enough time to grow on their own, and by the time they reunited, SA would presumably be safe again, seen as how the New World will most likely be in total chaos.
2 years allows for enough time that all the after effects of the war to play out, and for Luffy to return to the bottom and have to work his way up.If it is a timeskip, I think we'll see it next chapter, right before the break, and Oda will tease us with a cliffhanger of everyone showing up, but only their legs will appear in the panel. Then we get to wait 2 weeks.
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Why are some many people obsessed with the bell ringing without paying any attention to what was written on his arm?
Because getting a character design-changing tattoo to send a single message to the crew doesn't make as much sense as getting said tattoo to, say, mourn Ace. Plus, we've received not one but TWO different explanations from two different characters in this chapter about what the bell means. It wouldn't be very Oda-like to have either of them actually be right, now would it?
And for the record, people are paying plenty of attention- there are about 30 pages of discussion and theories on the tattoo in the spoiler thread.
EDIT: and for god's sake- even if it does say SA2Y, why on earth would Oda be using the english word archipelago when he's never done so before? If the Japanese even have a roman alphabet shorthand for Sabaody Archipelago, it would be SS.
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thats because Akainu is one unstable MFer
Thats because Akainu is more suited to being on the frontlines…than bein the Fleet Admiral..over seein the the Marines.
Akainu is the kinda guy you want there out on the open sea durin a period of chaos...pirates are everywhere...causing all kinds of hell and terror....Akainu is the kind of man to deliver some absolute justice to the criminals of the open sea.
I wanna see Akainu kicking ass. Plus, me thinks he'd wanna hunt down Luffy. He vowed that he wouldn't let Luffy & Ace escape alive from Marineford. He got Ace...so i would think he'd want to do away with Luffy just as he said.
Also, i found it interesting that the Gorousei mentioned Marco "The Phoenix" and what remains of the WB pirates, as possible candidates to stop Blackbeard & co.
It must mean, Marco is the new Captain of the WB Pirates...and it also shows they are still a force to be reckoned with....and Marco is someone to be taken very seriously...
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The question skews from "Will there be a timeskip?" to "When and how will the timeskip work?" Are we going to get a few more chapters of reaction? Some closure on Buggy? Training arcs? (I hope not!)
The next few weeks are going to completely change the series. Everyone keep your fingers crossed!
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It's useless to say that the "tattoo" is SA2Y= SA in 2 years, you already forgot all the theories on what Luffy did and yet none of those was right? Oda's way ahead of us, he's just teasing us as usual…
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Do you seriously expect, in the New World, for Blackbeard just to "beat" him?
lol, no way Blackbeard is just gonna casually go away after beating him, he's gonna straight up murder that guy
"So Blackbeard decided to hunt after one of the big rookies, hun?"
Blackbeard is not gonna hunt a guy, get there, defeat him and go away "hahaha, nice match, you were good there"Derp
Blackbeard hasn't been shown to be that ruthless. He leaves a lot of things up to chance. Magellan isn't dead, is he? Plus, to off screen kill a supernova who hasn't been established would be a complete waste or a potentially important character. At that point, why not just start off with 10 supernovas instead of introducing an 11th?
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Sorry 'Ancock, 2 Young. :ninja:
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I can't really buy into the whole ''two years'' theory after Luffy's ''I WANNA SEE THEM!!!'' a few chapters ago.
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This chapter was so much win. With all the "OH SHI-" moments going on, Franky was still able to steal the chapter. That guy is simply magical.
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In the cover page, we can see Pwngoat's awesome power. He already has Garp under his cruel command. And Garp has such a suffering expression on his face :(
Luffy is so damn cool. For a moment I thought he had a same kind of tattoo as Ace. But that would be kinda weird.
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Good Chapter,
To those of you who would rather have Akainu take Sengoku's position than Aokiji.
Why would a dog who only believes in his own justice be promoted to a position of influence. He's already shown to be completely ruthless, someone who could care less about the people beneath him if they question or interfere with his justice.
My point being Akainu is nothing more than a rabid dog who attacks anything that he believes encroaches on his justice. Kinda reminds me of Hitler.
lolwow you broke out godwin's law right off the bat huh.
Anyway Akainu has proven himself to be steady and dependable under pressure. He was the only Admiral to remain at his post when the war started like he was supposed to. He was the only Admiral who went toe-to-toe with WB, solidifying the reputation of the Admirals power. He was the Admiral who didn't let Ace get away thus saving the marines from a terrible embarrassment.
Really he's the only Admiral who acts like an Admiral and not like a really nice police officer. He takes his job seriously. He takes his ideas of justice seriously. Like Sengoku said, justice is perspective, comparing his perspective to hitler just because he goes about it with brutal efficiency is exaggerating. Plenty of successful militaries have waged campaigns of war (and this is war) with that type of efficiency. The Romans, The Mongolians, The Chinese, The Japanese, The Zulu, The British, The Spanish, The Moors, etc etc etc…
War is never pretty but its alot less pretty when people half-ass it. Then you have alot of people dead and still no victor rather than alot of people dead and the winner is clear, war is over. Akainu is the perfect Admiral to take control at a time like this, he'd quell the new age of pirates with brutal efficiency in the end saving the lives of millions.
As a side note WTF were those pegs sticking out of the black ball :blink:
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@Zik:
That's kinda Kidd's crew entire theme. Rejects that will kill you when mocked.
Still boring
Capone is lame. And lawls at him being awesome or any kind of awesomeness.
So, let me guess, you would hate a cowboy pirate too, right? Cause I mean, there's no explanation for your hate other than the fact that you hate awesome shit
AND his DF is weaksauce. The condiment of failures. The DF is cool for an ambush but it's main value is quantity > quality. Now yeah there's possibly more things he could do with it but so far he's a clear candidate for one of the first SNs to die. Unless Oda is gonna surprise us by killing Drake it's gonna be between Urouge, Capone, and Apoo.
Yeah, unfortunately, I am aware that Capone is gonna be one of the first killed, a shame
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everyone got the message accept zoro, but he arrives with getting lost a lot also in two years
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If one of the 3 admirals is promoted, will one of the vice admirals be promoted to fill his spot?
Makes sence doesn't it? I can't think of a vice admiral who's strong enough though (but we might get surprised).
Besides, what is Sengoku gonna do? Is he just retired without a function in the marines now? That would be a waste considering his strenth (I really wanna see his powers explained in a fight)
And what function does Kong have exactly?
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Blackbeard hasn't shown to be needlessly brutal. He believes in fate. He'd likely beat somebody till they don't move then move on. Not check if they're alive and finish them if they are not. Fate decided that person got to live if they survived his assault.
Even his massacre of level 6 was him allowing fate to decide who joined his crew instead of asking who wants to come or what they had to offer him.
Why would he hunt a guy, defeat the guy and say "fate decided for you to leave"
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, GAAAAHBlackbeard hasn't been shown to be that ruthless. He leaves a lot of things up to chance. Magellan isn't dead, is he? Plus, to off screen kill a supernova who hasn't been established would be a complete waste or a potentially important character. At that point, why not just start off with 10 supernovas instead of introducing an 11th?
Once again, why would he go HUNT a Supernova to leave him alive?
WHY? WHY? WHY?With Magellan, he didn't hunt him, he just wanted to pass through him to take away the survivors
BUT HE'S HUNTING A SUPERNOVA to leave him ALIVE?
It really makes no sense whatsoever
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Luffy hasn't got his bounty increase cuz of what just happened. They probably had it in mind what they were gonna give him and then he came back to Marine HQ and shitted on them so they probably thinking of adding a couple more zeros.
BB isn't going to spare anybody. The SN he attacked is either dead or crippled for life/out of the game. I see BB doing this simply cuz he never got it done with his original plan
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Did you like chapter 573?
Even though I like ace I felt it would be cheap if neither him nor Whitebeard died. The only thing that caught me by surprise is that they both died.
Eh, I think you're missing a point. Akainu seems to be the one most likely to get the job because he's the one most likely to do whatever the government says. He's one of the number 1 villains in the story right now.
Yes, Aokiji would be a better fleet admiral, a continuation of Sengoku…. But Akainu brings something new. A man who believes in absolute justice, with absolute power over the marines. That's a good villain, and I don't believe it would be a mistake by the World Government or Oda.
I didn't miss any point. I said that's exactly why he would be a horrible leader.
Whether he's the World Government's dog as an Admiral or a Fleet Admiral doesn't make much difference. So I see no point in him being promoted, though I'm not saying it can't happen I just think it would be bad.
I think he would get along well if he was the head of a CP9 type organization, and you never know maybe his view on absolute justice would conflict with the heads of the World Government later on.
Also turning the marines into an Evil Organization like you say would be horrible writing, Because ultimately they have preserved the peace in the world for the past 800 years. Why would the World Government promote someone who could ruin everything they have built?
Now if Akainu was to partake in a Coup d'état of the current World Government, I could see it working, but otherwise…
lolwow you broke out godwin's law right off the bat huh.
Anyway Akainu has proven himself to be steady and dependable under pressure. He was the only Admiral to remain at his post when the war started like he was supposed to. He was the only Admiral who went toe-to-toe with WB, solidifying the reputation of the Admirals power. He was the Admiral who didn't let Ace get away thus saving the marines from a terrible embarrassment.
Really he's the only Admiral who acts like an Admiral and not like a really nice police officer. He takes his job seriously. He takes his ideas of justice seriously. Like Sengoku said, justice is perspective, comparing his perspective to hitler just because he goes about it with brutal efficiency is exaggerating. Plenty of successful militaries have waged campaigns of war (and this is war) with that type of efficiency. The Romans, The Mongolians, The Chinese, The Japanese, The Zulu, The British, The Spanish, The Moors, etc etc etc…
War is never pretty but its alot less pretty when people half-ass it. Then you have alot of people dead and still no victor rather than alot of people dead and the winner is clear, war is over. Akainu is the perfect Admiral to take control at a time like this, he'd quell the new age of pirates with brutal efficiency in the end saving the lives of millions.
The comparison fits so I see nothing wrong with brining it up, and all those points you describe would make for a Dictator who would kill you if you did one thing that he didn't agree with. i also never said that Akainu didn't perform the best in the war, because he did.
But what I was pointing out seems to have gotten lost. Akainu while he would be an effective leader of a war ect… Would not make a good leader in times of Semi-stable peace like the One Piece world is in now. He would just throw it further into disarray.
Anyways I can see this straying further and further from what I was initially pointing out....
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Blackbeard hasn't shown to be needlessly brutal. He believes in fate. He'd likely beat somebody till they don't move then move on. Not check if they're alive and finish them if they are not. Fate decided that person got to live if they survived his assault.
Even his massacre of level 6 was him allowing fate to decide who joined his crew instead of asking who wants to come or what they had to offer him.
Maybe not Blackbeard….but he has a crew full of bloodthirsty criminals..like Shiryuu who killed for the the fun of it...and no doubt Basco Shot...Avaro Pizzaro & the rest of the lvl 6 guys are alike.
But yeah...it doesn't seem in the nature of BB..to actively go after someone...he gains very little from crushing pirates that are inferior to him.
Also on a side note. I can'#t wait to see some of these "Legendary" pirats Kong spoke of....as well as the lvl 6 prisoners who escaped.
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Wait till the new year to come to sail back to the grove [the boat circling] seems to be the most logically answer to this riddle.
None of the marines will understand this message b/c they don't know Luffy well and they don't know what happened during the previous events.
The problem is Rayleigh made this plan b/c he asked Luffy if he wanted this same thing at the grove to happen again. Soooo I wonder how the communicated to them to get stronger or something?
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Have you guys stopped to think it's NOT a tattoo? Luffy's entire arm is probably bandaged and that message is written on it. If you look closely, you can see Oda did the whole white stroke around it like he does around characters to make them stand out from the backgrounds. You can see the lines of the bandages starting but stopping a short ways before the text.
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What page does it show what the tattoo says -_____-
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SA2Y = Sabaody Archipelago in 2 Years
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Am I the only one who sees a heart in Luffy's tattoo?
Too me it can be SA(heart-love?)Y(you?)
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Still boring
Well I never said I liked Kidd or his crew (or much of the SNs for that matter) but Oda gave Kidd a higher bounty than Luffy and made his first made a SN too, basically paralleling Luffy and Zoro to an extent. Plus he's added in some type of rivalry along with Law among them so I just don't see Oda veering off the course with Killer's death. Kidd is more dumb and hotheaded than Ace. He'd be racing to his death in this scenario.
I just seem them being losers in the end and accepting it.
So, let me guess, you would hate a cowboy pirate too, right? Cause I mean, there's no explanation for your hate other than the fact that you hate awesome shit
Cowboy pirate? WTF? I don't hate awesome shit. I dislike lame characters. If Oda did intend for Capone to be lame he'd make a cool mafiaso pirate if he wanted but oh wait Croc is basically that already.
So if Oda does a cool cowboy pirate I might like it if it is actually awesomw. Nothing about Capone is awesome.
Yeah, unfortunately, I am aware that Capone is gonna be one of the first killed, a shame
Apoo and Drake X are definately above Capone, Jewerly Bonne and Urouge, though, I'm fairly sure of thatBonney is above Capone simply due to all the possibilities her clearly superior DF can cause down the line and her inevitable eating contest with Luffy. Unlike the rest of SN I see her either being defeated and being an ally of the SHs or joining a yonkou's crew.
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JESUS CHRIST @ KIDD
no pun intended.
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Whitebeard had 16 divisions.
Maybe Luffy really meant, as was mentioned in this chapter, that he would be the one to define the next era, but not just in the sense that the Marines understood ("16 rings for a new year, in this case, era"), but also as a promise to his friends: "I will now become the strongest man in the world, as Whitebeard was before me, with his crew. I need you, so just believe in me."Meh, it's a bit far-fetched. I mean, for starters, how much do the Strawhats know about Newgate? And also, how should Luffy know how Whitebeard organized things? Ace could've told them that in Alabasta, but, why should he have done that?
No, I'm sure that there's a simpler explanation.
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Great chapter. The best thing was the look at the new world, specifically Mr Urougue's showing us new daunting vistas and Kid's showing us people fearfully trying to leave it.
I always kind of assumed Sakazuki would be fleet admiral at the end of things, so Sengoku's recommendation is surprising. Not set in stone of course.
Also Kong + Brownbeard + crucifixions were cool too.
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lolwow you broke out godwin's law right off the bat huh.
Anyway Akainu has proven himself to be steady and dependable under pressure. He was the only Admiral to remain at his post when the war started like he was supposed to. He was the only Admiral who went toe-to-toe with WB, solidifying the reputation of the Admirals power. He was the Admiral who didn't let Ace get away thus saving the marines from a terrible embarrassment.
Really he's the only Admiral who acts like an Admiral and not like a really nice police officer. He takes his job seriously. He takes his ideas of justice seriously. Like Sengoku said, justice is perspective, comparing his perspective to hitler just because he goes about it with brutal efficiency is exaggerating. Plenty of successful militaries have waged campaigns of war (and this is war) with that type of efficiency. The Romans, The Mongolians, The Chinese, The Japanese, The Zulu, The British, The Spanish, The Moors, etc etc etc…
War is never pretty but its alot less pretty when people half-ass it. Then you have alot of people dead and still no victor rather than alot of people dead and the winner is clear, war is over. Akainu is the perfect Admiral to take control at a time like this, he'd quell the new age of pirates with brutal efficiency in the end saving the lives of millions.
As a side note WTF were those pegs sticking out of the black ball :blink:
I think the points you made, are the exact reason why he shouldn't be Fleet Admiral. With all the chaos out there on the sea, he's the kinda guy you'd want on the frontlines, dishing out some justice to the criminals out there.
If being Fleet Admiral..means sittin back in a desk job like Sengoku was doing…then that is NOT the job for Akainu. That is unless....you can be Fleet Admiral and be on the frontlines as well.. -
Sadly, this is my line of thought. From what we heard and saw, the marking on Luffy's arm is the only thing that seemed like it could be a message. Though 2 years seems like way too long of a timeskip, it makes since. The crew would get enough time to grow on their own, and by the time they reunited, SA would presumably be safe again, seen as how the New World will most likely be in total chaos.
2 years allows for enough time that all the after effects of the war to play out, and for Luffy to return to the bottom and have to work his way up.If it is a timeskip, I think we'll see it next chapter, right before the break, and Oda will tease us with a cliffhanger of everyone showing up, but only their legs will appear in the panel. Then we get to wait 2 weeks.
Sigh… the more I think about it the more it seems to be true. Oda did say Luffy has had his last adventure as a 17 year old. Just as long as he doesn't grow facial hair I guess I'm good.
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Stole a marine vessel and sailed a ring around Marineford = Full circle (In a year)
Rang the bell 16 times, signifying the beginning of a new age = Let's meet in the New Age
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2 years? Not likely. A big time-skip? I doubt that. You musta learned by now…don't try to predict Oda..in these kinda things...especially if it is very ambigious like this "message".
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I just realized Boa had a heart attack…
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Why would he hunt a guy, defeat the guy and say "fate decided for you to leave"
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, GAAAAHWho says Teach was the one doing the pursuing? Teach pursuing a SN just to kill them and move on is what makes no sense. If he went after one he would want something from them. Whats more likely is that one went after him. Most likely Bonney if you remember she said she wanted to go after some bastard after WB was killed. Also I don't get your "fate decided you to leave comment". Its like Zaraki and Ikkau's fight in bleach. Zaraki came at him witht he intention to kill and Ikkaku survived. Zaraki then walked away because finishing off isn't an obligation or a pleasure for him.
As for Akainu being Fleet Admiral. Who says all fleet Admirals have to perform their roles the same way? Maybe Sengoku didn't take a more hands-on approach because he didnt' want or have to do so. Things will be far more chaotic from now on so why can't Akainu be out on the Seas ordering decimation of pirates in eyes view.
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@Zik:
Well I never said I liked Kidd or his crew (or much of the SNs for that matter) but Oda gave Kidd a higher bounty than Luffy and made his first made a SN too, basically paralleling Luffy and Zoro to an extent. Plus he's added in some type of rivalry along with Law among them so I just don't see Oda veering off the course with Killer's death. Kidd is more dumb and hotheaded than Ace. He'd be racing to his death in this scenario.
I just seem them being losers in the end and accepting it.
Cowboy pirate? WTF? I don't hate awesome shit. I dislike lame characters. If Oda did intend for Capone to be lame he'd make a cool mafiaso pirate if he wanted but oh wait Croc is basically that already.So if Oda does a cool cowboy pirate I might like it if it is actually awesomw. Nothing about Capone is awesome.
Bonney is above Capone simply due to all the possibilities her clearly superior DF can cause down the line and her inevitable eating contest with Luffy. Unlike the rest of SN I see her either being defeated and being an ally of the SHs or joining a yonkou's crew.
I said from the beginning "Come on dude, go for Urouge or Killer (even though it doesn't make much sense)", so yeah, I know he won't probably kill Killer, but hey, I can hope
And Capone is awesome, dude, how could you possibly say otherwise? Oda clearly hyped him as awesome too, what with him dominating the Marines, stabbing his comrade but also being strangely affected by Whitebeard's attitude
"Humph, Whitebeard being a traitor to his crewmembers? Ridiculous"Capone is awesome, end of discussion
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Awesome chapter!!!
I'm confident Capone isn't finished. It would be such a waste otherwise:sad:
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I didn't miss any point. I said that's exactly why he would be a horrible leader.
Whether he's the World Government's dog as an Admiral or a Fleet Admiral doesn't make much difference. So I see no point in him being promoted, though I'm not saying it can't happen I just think it would be bad.
I think he would get along well if he was the head of a CP9 type organization, and you never know maybe his view on absolute justice would conflict with the heads of the World Government later on.
Also turning the marines into an Evil Organization like you say would be horrible writing, Because ultimately they have preserved the peace in the world for the past 800 years. Why would the World Government promote someone who could ruin everything they have built?
Now if Akainu was to partake in a Coup d'état of the current World Government, I could see it working, but otherwise…
New age of pirates may require a new age of marines, and I don't know if Akainu is evil, his absolute justice is just a little harsh. Otherwise, I agree with you.
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And Capone is awesome, dude, how could you possibly say otherwise? Oda clearly hyped him as awesome too, what with him dominating the Marines, stabbing his comrade but also being strangely affected by Whitebeard's attitude
"Humph, Whitebeard being a traitor to his crewmembers? Ridiculous"Capone is awesome, end of discussion
Beating up fodder marines means nothing. He's seen eating most of the time anyway.
He said that line about WB because he probably looks up to him and cuz he's soft. Got his crew calling him father. He probably really aint about that mafia life and just has family issues.