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Eiichiro Oda
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I've waited 12 years for this chapter.
Amazing chapter. The battle was very condensed, showing just the bare minimum for us to understand each beat, but all the info was delivered masterfully.
Lots of juicy lore and hooks for future plotlines.
Hancock was awesome.
Koby's abduction was completely unexpected.
The Seraphim are creepy as hell, and open the door for so much more of them. I doubt they will be only based on Warlords. I feel the samples to create them were collected at Marineford. If so, we could even get an Ace one...
Can't wait to see where the story goes from here.
I'll post more on the Next Nakama and Next Arc threads immediatelly!
Edit: Added links to the other posts.
Great chapter, Oda seems to have a renewed vigor since the end of Onigashima.
The little flashback covered up something that desperately needed to be shown. I just think it would have been much better to see this talk when it actually took place rather than through a flashback, even the goodbye scene would hit differently if we had seen this talk before (things like Luffy saying he would come back as soon as Momo's group wanted to leave Wano now sound like carrying a hidden message to Yamato).
The flashback also adds a certain tenderness to Yamato's character that makes him a lot move loveable in my eyes. It's interesting to see how in his quest to become Oden, he is actually becoming the great person Oden is seen as, but never really was. Instead of someone who used his freedom to leave behind any sense of responsibility, only to come back and find it was too late to fix the consequences of his absence, Yamato is using his freedom to uphold his duty to friends and motherland.
A lot of people are pissed about this scene, but I think it is one of those small bits that add so much to a character. Now I actually want to see Yamato back.
The fact this flashback was prompted by Marco, who wasn't even there during the dialogue and was shoehorned at the end only strengthens my impression that Oda intended to include this scene before, but only realized he forgot to do so after it was too late to change chapter 1057.
Not a fan of the new Pacifista. One: it drinks from the trope of "dark evil version of the good characters", which I absolutely hate. Two: it makes me worried about how much this army of cloned characters might expand and end up being OP's equivalent of Naruto's disastrous zombie army.
The fact they seem to be all children might help, though, since I doubt Oda would make any of the good guys beat a child-looking character in an actual fight, so maybe they are never meant to be actually fought onscreen.
A bit salty we didn't got a clear full-body look at Vasco and we got so little from him and Devon. At least Teach was the amazing POS we all love, amazing how he never fails to deliver. His new bounty seems a bit weird since it doesn't seem like anything that would warrant a 2.6 -> 3.99 billion raise happened since chapter 957, so my best bet is that his previous bounty was already heavily outdated - maybe Rocky Port wasn't even included in it.
I guess Rocky Port Incident is going to become something we'll have to visit, now that on top of Law and Koby, Oda linked a former Rocks Pirates and Teach to it. Like I mentioned in the spoiler thread, I suppose this is something I wouldn't mind if it was relegated to a movie (a "Law focused" movie would probably sell even if the SH weren't there).
We are almost rounding up all the big names. My guess for next chapter is: Weevil (that much seems obvious), Issho and finally Vegapunk's debut.
The fact that Yamato making a choice to stay for now to help protect Momo and the others after he failed to handle an admiral and Blackbeard storming into an island to get a power he feels he can get away with are featured in the same chapter leads me to suspect there’s set-up being done for Yamato’s choice to backfire on her. Could also lead into whereas Oden didn’t ask for Marco and the other Whitebeard Pirates’ help back then, Yamato would be different in asking for help and the Whitebeard Pirates helping out then, perhaps even to the extent of helping protect Wano instead of Yamato. Luffy’s flag protection + Vista, Jozu, and the others helping protect Wano from the inside should be enough to satisfy Yamato to leave Wano with no worry, so I’m definitely interested in seeing where this goes.
So the only thing BB gained from this is coby.
Every time he showed up he either gained ace and becoming warlord, his crew in impel down, his second power in marineford, off screen became yonkou/beat marco and co/ doubled his bounty during onigashima. Burgess also leads to him gaining all weapons from revolutionaries.
But what gain will coby bring him? Can coby long distance control pacifistas and he will call them to him, will marines give him as much money for coby or what????
@access-timeco said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
The little flashback covered up something that desperately needed to be shown. I just think it would have been much better to see this talk when it actually took place rather than through a flashback, even the goodbye scene would hit differently if we had seen this talk before (things like Luffy saying he would come back as soon as Momo's group wanted to leave Wano now sound like carrying a hidden message to Yamato).
WHat's worse is that the Yamato part of the flashback didn't even take a whole page. It could totally fit in Ch 1057 if Oda just reduced the first page of that chapter, which is just the storyteller retelling the events of Onigashima to the people.
Chapter is pretty good, but doesn't flow very well due to a lot of sudden cuts and awkward movements of the characters through the field in Amazon Lily.
As expected, Yamato's justification in chapter 1057 was only an excuse and there was a hidden motive for him staying in Wano, which is protecting the country. This doesn't save the poor handling of Yamato in Wano, but it's good to see the motives better fleshed out here now. I believe Yamato will be a full-fledged SH in the future.
Luffy saying goodbye to Marco, so completionists can be happy.
Hancock was a highlight in this chapter, but I wish her powers that basically OHKO'd everybody were better portrayed in the chapter.
Why did Blackbeard's bounty increase to almost 4 billion? I mean, I expected him to get a new bounty eventually, but as far as I understand nothing happened between the reveal of his 2.2 billion bounty and this Amazon Lily incident.
I never liked the Pacifistas, so I was worried about the SSG, but it's kinda cool although a little creepy. I just hope the manga doesn't become a huge clone party.
Coby feels so random having a conversation with Teach and Hancock, lol, but I guess he's got history now. Rocky Port Incident never ceases to amaze.
So Blackbeard wanted Hancock's powers, lol, I guess it should work with other emotions other than lust.
Rayleigh is Shanks.
@theackwardstation said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Why did Blackbeard's bounty increase to almost 4 billion? I mean, I expected him to get a new bounty eventually, but as far as I understand nothing happened between the reveal of his 2.2 billion bounty and this Amazon Lily incident.
I understand that these bounties are the current ones, updated after this incident. A little confusing, but just consider that Blackbeard bounty is going to remain this and not be raised again after this chapter.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
@Deicide said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
@theackwardstation said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Why did Blackbeard's bounty increase to almost 4 billion? I mean, I expected him to get a new bounty eventually, but as far as I understand nothing happened between the reveal of his 2.2 billion bounty and this Amazon Lily incident.
I understand that these bounties are the current ones, updated after this incident, which is in flashback. A little confusing, but just consider that Blackbeard bounty is going to remain this and not be raised again after this chapter.
I guess it could be the case. Still super weird juxtaposition of past and present without clear indication.
@theackwardstation
I guess Oda wouldn't want to use space from next chapter just to update bounties. This is quick and simple, albeit a bit confusing.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
@Deicide well, Oda wouldn't need to update bounties next chapter or something like that, just wait till Teach shows up next in the present, regardless of when that happens.
Anyway, this is a minor issue.
-Luffy being told his brother would be proud and him smiling as a result was cute.
I'm glad got Boa in a helpless position. but I wish it wasnt followed by Rayleigh flexing and making them go away. The blackbeard pirates need some on screen domination for the sake of their future fight with the strawhats. This seems like a weak payoff to Blackbeard big move. Especially since he failed in his attempt. So at least let Handcock be the one to run.
Being kids I wonder if the pacifistas could malfunction or be less obedient than the full grown Kumas. I'm expecting it at any moment.
-The Rocky port incident has been become that adventure the characters reference all the time in a show but never actually show. I hope we never see it and can just imagine whatever we want for it.
-I think Weevil is the last Warlord we have have check up on. Maybe we see him attacking Marco next chapter.
Amazonians seemed pretty man-hating, feminazi, incel-ish type, I'm impressed they're not questioning their lifestyle when their leaders are continuously falling in love with men.
@access-timeco said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
maybe Rocky Port wasn't even included in it.
wasn't rocky port the incident that made Law a warlord ?
I wonder how Odanwill handle Koby in the future. He is really too innocent to belong to the army. Especially with someone like Blackbeard
Who had the better pants game this chapter, Teach or Rayleigh.
@theackwardstation said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
- As expected, Yamato's justification in chapter 1057 was only an excuse and there was a hidden motive for him staying in Wano, which is protecting the country. This doesn't save the poor handling of Yamato in Wano, but it's good to see the motives better fleshed out here now. I believe Yamato will be a full-fledged SH in the future.
Yep, the fact that this was brought up is telling that Oda isn't encouraging us to stop thinking about the idea.
Calling if Oda doesn't give us a Buggy seraphim that will be among the top of the most egregious failures of One Piece 
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@Monquito said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Amazonians seemed pretty man-hating, feminazi, incel-ish type, I'm impressed they're not questioning their lifestyle when their leaders are continuously falling in love with men.
wtf
Caesar's fruit is truly ridiculous. And it makes so much sense as well.
The way I see it:
Clever solution, even if I really dislike the inevitable Vinsmoke redemption arc.
Blackbeard said he’s been waiting for Boa’s power, I imagine for himself. The question here is, is this really that third fruit that everyone has speculated that Blackbeard is gonna get OR Blackbeard can get unlimited fruit powers?. If it’s the latter then Blackbeard has been really slow on bulking up and why the heck wouldn’t he go for Kaido’s and big mom?. He knew there was gonna be battle in wano.
Have to agree with ackward about the sudden cuts making the conflicts not flow well, but other than that, great chapter.
Man, don't you just love pre timeskip characters. These are the ones that we want to see after so long. Wano wasn't straight up bad, but lord, these side characters are the ones that I actually care about.
@Cyan-D-Funk said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Who had the better pants game this chapter, Teach or Rayleigh.
Teach by far. Rayleigh's pants are not that good actually. His apprentice Shanks wears way better pants. I guess it's that Yonkou money.
The difficult question is whether you'd dress like Shanks or Blackbeard.
@Monquito said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Amazonians seemed pretty man-hating, feminazi, incel-ish type, I'm impressed they're not questioning their lifestyle when their leaders are continuously falling in love with men.
Their leader always falling in love is more a cautionary tell about how seductive the outside is then anything.
@realtenchu said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Blackbeard said he’s been waiting for Boa’s power, I imagine for himself. The question here is, is this really that third fruit that everyone has speculated that Blackbeard is gonna get OR Blackbeard can get unlimited fruit powers?. If it’s the latter then Blackbeard has been really slow on bulking up and why the heck wouldn’t he go for Kaido’s and big mom?. He knew there was gonna be battle in wano.
I believe the boring answer is that Blackbeard only wanted Hancock's power because it was convenient for the story.
Oda wants to end this series, so the pieces for the final arc had to start moving - by any means. Characters need an incentive to participate in this upcoming mega war after all, or at the very least be organically woven back into the main story (so it doesn't feel completely random when they show up eventually).
Last chapter we learned how Buggy, Mihawk & Crocodile will be involved, now it was Hancock's and Coby's turn.
Flashbacks to Wano are bittersweet. Yes, they cover stuff that needs to be covered, but they also mean that while we've left Wano...we still haven't techncially left Wano.
Also, didn't last chapter end on a cliffhanger with Sabo? Shouldn't that have been mentioned at all? This chapter just starts with Marco and travels to Wano and Amazon Lily. I'm feeling like the story is getting too big now and each chapter is having trouble keeping things in.
@onemoment said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Also, didn't last chapter end on a cliffhanger with Sabo? Shouldn't that have been mentioned at all?
I agree with this. I wouldn't call it a problem, but it'd be a lot smoother if we started with a follow up on that.
@Cyan-D-Funk Sadly there's no winner. Teach extends his reign of terror through his fashion choices and Rayleigh is cosplaying Shanks.
Yonkowise, my man Kaido has the most drip and he's half naked most of the time. Linlin dresses like a child, it took her a trip to Onigashima to end up as a neat Oiran. Shanks has the tired Love-Eat-Pray 40 yrs old "I saw the light" look which he can rock but only because he's the hottest man in the manga. Teach just had TOO much fun in Party City, he has to tone it down a bit, but I respect a man living his fantasy so there's that.
My guess for next chapter: Weevil. For like 3 pages, than we back to the SHs and we off to start Revolutionaries Arc.
Loved this chapter.
The Wano Flashback, I would have much prefered it if we just got this before we left Wano, but well at least we got it. Yamato's reasoning is still a bit meh, better than the Oden-thing, which really didn't make sense but it's still meh. The reason they're not opening the borders and keeping Wano's defense up is to protect Wano, Dog and Cat are staying behind to protect Wano, Momo learning to control his DF is supposed to help protect Wano, the SH flag is supposed to protect Wano and Yamato is staying behind to protect Wano. It's not like it makes no sense, but definitely wouldn't call it satisfying.
But everything else, 10/10. Not even mad we didn't follow up with Sabo/Revos.
The Rocky Port incident just keeps getting juicier. Can't even imagine what went on there.
Shakky being a former empress is cool. In chapter 522, Gloriosa says, the former empress died from love sickness and the one before that caught it as well, The latter would be Shakky then who left and was 'cured' just like Gloriosa before her.
Seraphim's are very interesting, probably connecting the Lineage Factor/Cloning with the Lunarians, always good to see plot points coming together at this stage of the story.
Hoping for Weevil next week.
Theorizing about the Seraphim. I think the samples were taken in Marineford. They'll be teenagers when we fight them for real.
I guess there's 7:
Miniboa was seen smiling, indicating a personality. Their personalities may mirror the originals, making them somewhat unruly.
So, Minihawk probably seek strong people to test himself. And Miniboa would be interesting because she'd be Hancock without the slavery trauma.
Minibuggy is there for laughs. He'd probably be a coward, and Vegapunk can't understands why a clone of such a fearsome pirate behaves so.
Weevil may be a failed Whitebeard clone experiment, indicating the existence of Minewgate.
And Miniace would be disturbing for Luffy.
I have no idea of who the other two could be based on. Lots of possibilities.
It's like every guy with a sword has to look great. Mini mihawk and rayleigh made the potential final villain pee his pants twice in the same chapter. Maybe it's not a good thing that oda comes from samurai country.
@zorosempai said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
It's like every guy with a sword has to look great. Mini mihawk and rayleigh made the potential final villain pee his pants twice in the same chapter. Maybe it's not a good thing that oda comes from samurai country.
He better pray he doesnt meet Zoro
@theackwardstation said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
I agree with this. I wouldn't call it a problem, but it'd be a lot smoother if we started with a follow up on that.
i'm afraid we won't know about Sabo or Koby anytime soon. Next chapter will focus on another storyline most certainly too
@zorosempai said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
It's like every guy with a sword has to look great. Mini mihawk and rayleigh made the potential final villain pee his pants twice in the same chapter. Maybe it's not a good thing that oda comes from samurai country.
Final battles are Zoro vs Blackbeard and Luffy vs Akainu.
Would actually be smart since Blackbeard biggest advantage is forcing fruit users to not rely on them them. So Zoro would be less bothered fighting him.
Why the hell did neither Koby nor Blackbeard comment on the huge Luffy photo...
@Zhenja said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Why the hell did neither Koby nor Blackbeard comment on the huge Luffy photo...
I dont know why blackbeaard would care.
I can agree Coby would react. Maybe even try to use it in the negocciations.
It's not like there was time to acknowledge it.
It may be a plot point if this story isn't skipped over the next chapters, but I find more likely that they will cover other events, It's very likely that we will return to the crew by the end of 1060.
Wait so Koby is now seen as a marine hero? And it is somehow related to when he helped BB take down another pirate? I'm curious to see how that adds up.
VegaPunk discovering the formula of good swordsmanship, its his greatest accomplisment so far.
@wolfwood Didn't Koby already have hero status during the Reverie?
@wolfwood It all ties to this "Rocky Port Incident". Basically, Law was the "mastermind" of the incident, whatever it was, Koby protected a lot of civilians during it, and it gave Blackbeard an advantage in some way to defeat Wang Zhi and take Pirate Island.
Why would Teach kidnap Koby?
I can think of two possible reasons:
To learn more about the Seraphim
Because Koby was not petrified, so Teach wants to learn how this is possible.
I don’t think Teach would know Koby is a SWORD agent.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
@Johnny-B-Decent There's still a lot of uncertainties I feel like. Surely Rocky Port is the name of the port on Fullalead, it's literally got a rocky port 
But why would Coby be called a hero for saving civilians on a WG unaffiliated island?
@Deicide said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
- Because Koby was not petrified, so Teach wants to learn how this is possible.
We can see some of Blackbeard lackeys were not turned to stone (they react to Rayleigh arriving).
That plus the fact the chapter doesn't bring any attention to the fact Koby, Teach or the PX weren't turned to stone makes me think they simply weren't hit by the arrows.
@cavendishsama Civilians brought from somewhere else, maybe?
Though if it the incident did take place on Fullalead, I'm even more curious about Law's involvement as the mastermind behind it.
It would be interesting if Doflamingo and his crew were involved in it. It would fix the plot hole of all of them being well acquainted to Law powers, even though in theory the last time they met was 6 months before he ate the DF.
Overall, I found this chapter... lacking. For the second time in a row, we've got a chapter that splits between a small Strawhat focused bit, over topics related to Wano, and a larger "while the Strawhats were on Wano, this happened" development. But unlike the last one, where the similarity of both new Emperors, Luffy and Buggy, being brought low by their "subordinates" united the two pieces while providing quite a bit of humor, this one just doesn't click for me.
The Yamato stuff should have been dealt with during Wano and better connected to its ending (but Oda felt it was more important to surprise his readers than anything else).
And Teach needs to get better subordinates. We could have at least seen Devon and Vasco tearing through some marines and amazons but nope... At least the angel children live up to their hype.
Also Rayleigh manages to show up at Amazon Lily as a deus ex machina for the second time in this whole series, which is weird.
@Bugs said in Chapter 1059: The Matter Involving Captain Koby:
Also Rayleigh manages to show up at Amazon Lily as a deus ex machina for the second time in this whole series, which is weird.
He figuring out Luffy was going to be taken to AL after Marineford was kinda forced, but this time was very logical. Hancock was striped of her title, so he figured she was going to be attacked.
He simply being able to swim through the Calm Belt, however, makes no sense despite how powerful he is, unless Shakuyaku kept some yuda snakes with her just in case.
While the flow of action is a bit confusing, I assume Teach and his surviving subordinates were not present when Hancock attacked the marines, but Koby was. So, Teach would be curious about how Koby was unaffected.
