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    • Kaiolino
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      @S.C.:

      As opposed to normal?

      The "optics" already showed he was becoming presidential in Saudi Arabia and Israel.

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        This is why he can't last. Definitely not hork 8 years, probably not 4, hopefully 2, max. Because there's never going to be that magical 180 pivot that P90X and Yertle pray for every night to the ghosts of Reagan and Ayn Rand. The timeline over and over is "Trump did a thing without pooping himself. …Wait, this just in. He pooped himself and smeared it on Dignitary X's wall."

        The chaos alignment is only really useful in moderation, at least for the people who want to get evil, evil things done. Left unchecked, it'll just cause those beautiful 3X% approval numbers to keep on dropping, and we've got to believe that even the scum of the earth- Republican congresspeople- each have a threshold picked out (25%? 15%? 10%!?) for their time to flip on the Russia stuff. Trump won't disappoint. He doesn't know how not to.

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          The golfcart story makes me bank on him not lasting 4 years because he'll drop dead of a heart attack in a few months.

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            If Trump dropped dead, the GOP reaction would be this:

            Complicating things since 2009.

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              I honestly hope nothing like that happens to Trump. Partly it's because I'm not about to seriously wish death on someone, but more pragmatically, the longer the Republicans have to stand by Trump, the more they have to own it in the long run. That's why I've said they'd be better off impeaching Trump themselves than being forced into or letting the Democrats do it. It would break them from Trump in a way nothing else would.

              Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

              Statler: No you haven't.

              Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!

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                If he dies, Republicans will win elections for years on the back of martyring and conspiracy theories.

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                  @Kaiolino:

                  If he dies, Republicans will win elections for years on the back of martyring and conspiracy theories.

                  lol, that's very true and frightening though. It'd also mean Mike Pence, might even be worst than Trump.

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                    I'd rather Trump be an….interesting chapter in our nation's history than a martyr.

                    ....oh god guys, one day Trump will be in history textbooks in classrooms.

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                      @Lucky:

                      Democrat Rosa DeLauro, U.S. Representative for Connecticut's 3rd congressional district, made her concerns and thoughts about the Education Department's fiscal 2018 budget clear to Betsy DeVos last Wednesday. It was pretty cool.

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                      This is literally my Congressional rep lol.

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                        ….oh god guys, one day Trump will be in history textbooks in classrooms.

                        History classes will never get far enough to talk about the 21st century; too much time will be spent teaching them religion.

                        Complicating things since 2009.

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                          Trump apparantly was being a total douche in general at the G7 summit. Refusing to listen to the Italian PM's speech, veto-ing statements on refugees along with the UK and turning his (non-) support for the climate accord into another reality show-esque farce where he will give his answer in a week.

                          Perhaps instead of Putin being Trump's miserable partner in crime it's May instead.

                          May: At last you continentals realize the power of this fully armed and operational Anglosphere!
                          Trump: FfffffffAAARrrrrtttt whuh wuzzat, where are we? Ivanka! Get me my cart! I'm not walkin' to the limo.
                          G5 Leaders: lol

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                            If there are pictures of this, they should be THE only online response to any Trump supporter who opens their goddamn mouthes for the rest of eternity.

                            I think this article has what you're looking for already, snarky commentary included.

                            “I thought of Godzilla as the embodiment of violence and hatred for mankind, because he was created by atomic energy. He's like a symbol of humanity's complicity in their own destruction. He doesn't have an emotion. He is an emotion.” — Jun Fukuda

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                                To be fair, if he did walk, he still would be taking the piss for getting red-faced and panting like a dying mule.

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                                  Not to go all ad hominem, but political cartoonists barely have to do any real work these days. His side profile in the pic MetaMario posted is full-on caricature already. The eyebrows stick out half an inch for fuck's sake.

                                  On the death/fate worse than death argument, I hope he ends up with several life sentences for high treason and conspiracy to whatever. Him and every last rat that refused to abandon the sinking ship.

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                                    This is why he can't last. Definitely not hork 8 years, probably not 4, hopefully 2, max. Because there's never going to be that magical 180 pivot that P90X and Yertle pray for every night to the ghosts of Reagan and Ayn Rand. The timeline over and over is "Trump did a thing without pooping himself. …Wait, this just in. He pooped himself and smeared it on Dignitary X's wall."

                                    The chaos alignment is only really useful in moderation, at least for the people who want to get evil, evil things done. Left unchecked, it'll just cause those beautiful 3X% approval numbers to keep on dropping, and we've got to believe that even the scum of the earth- Republican congresspeople- each have a threshold picked out (25%? 15%? 10%!?) for their time to flip on the Russia stuff. Trump won't disappoint. He doesn't know how not to.

                                    You reminded me that I did see an article that there are a lot of artists declining doing his portrait. And ones that have tried reported horrible behavior including peeing himself then blaming the artist. So who knows lol. I wouldn't find it surprising. Especially since he apparently has issues using restrooms not on his property. Of course I didn't link it here cause I was only 99% sure it was true.

                                    It's been a surreal experience watching this decline happen. Like has there been a day without some BREAKING NEWS? If feel like we never get a break and it varies from Melania not wanting to hold hands to high treason.

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                                      I expect we'll see the collective effects of this nonstop train to crazy town 10, 20, or 30 years down the road. Studies will be done and show higher rates of heart attack/high blood pressure, etc., with the timeline pointing to 2016/2017 as the trigger. Our bodies just aren't meant to cope with such visceral stress on a daily basis.

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                                        Not to go all ad hominem, but political cartoonists barely have to do any real work these days. His side profile in the pic MetaMario posted is full-on caricature already. The eyebrows stick out half an inch for fuck's sake.

                                        On the death/fate worse than death argument, I hope he ends up with several life sentences for high treason and conspiracy to whatever. Him and every last rat that refused to abandon the sinking ship.

                                        I would love it, but let's be honest. Someone with so immense a ego as Trump would either kill himself or try and flee the country before he was prosecuted.

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                                          Trump dropping dead was the easy out before he got into office. Now he needs to last as long as possible so there can be consequences to the republican party for not checking him sooner. If he dies they basically get to blame everything on him and hide through the midterms.

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                                            He allegedly had a button put on his desk to bring coca-cola to him. I'm not even slightly surprised at the golf cart story.

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                                            A magical strange Twilight Zone episode where no other education is offered, and the only option is Bill Nye the Science Guy videos

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                                              Not to go all ad hominem, but political cartoonists barely have to do any real work these days. His side profile in the pic MetaMario posted is full-on caricature already. The eyebrows stick out half an inch for fuck's sake.

                                              On the death/fate worse than death argument, I hope he ends up with several life sentences for high treason and conspiracy to whatever. Him and every last rat that refused to abandon the sinking ship.

                                              He looks very hitler-esque to be honest. It's quite entertaining, watching it all unfold from across the pond. You just have to mention Trump to get a laught out of people, he's a living walking (golf-carting?) meme.

                                              Other than Impeachment, does the US not have any other way of getting rid of the president? The UK has a vote of no confidence system, Italy has their own system that sees the Presidente del Consiglio dismissed by the Presidente della Repubblica (what eventually happened to Berlusconi).

                                              Is there no way for republicans and democrats in the house and senate to coalize, perhaps with a 2/3 majority or something, and get rid of this moronic piece of orange shit? Or a way to call a snap election when confidence in the President falls to an all time low?

                                              I mean, if the President were to suffer from debilitating dementia, but still refused to step down, what would happen? Could the V.P. take office against the sitting president's (unreasonable) will? Is there no way to just remove them, if they haven't done anything outwardly illegal?

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                                                It's quite entertaining, watching it all unfold from across the pond. You just have to mention Trump to get a laught out of people, he's a living walking (golf-carting?) meme.

                                                That is actually true, lol. It's pretty easy to make people laugh these days, just throw in a random Trump quote and it's always hilarious. 😁

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                                                  He looks very hitler-esque to be honest. It's quite entertaining, watching it all unfold from across the pond. You just have to mention Trump to get a laught out of people, he's a living walking (golf-carting?) meme.

                                                  Other than Impeachment, does the US not have any other way of getting rid of the president? The UK has a vote of no confidence system, Italy has their own system that sees the Presidente del Consiglio dismissed by the Presidente della Repubblica (what eventually happened to Berlusconi).

                                                  Is there no way for republicans and democrats in the house and senate to coalize, perhaps with a 2/3 majority or something, and get rid of this moronic piece of orange shit? Or a way to call a snap election when confidence in the President falls to an all time low?

                                                  I mean, if the President were to suffer from debilitating dementia, but still refused to step down, what would happen? Could the V.P. take office against the sitting president's (unreasonable) will? Is there no way to just remove them, if they haven't done anything outwardly illegal?

                                                  The 25th amendment, but it is even harder to pass through congress than impeachment (it requires a two thirds majority in both houses instead of a simple majority in the House and two thirds in the Senate).

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                                                    @AfroSamurai:

                                                    Is there no way for republicans and democrats in the house and senate to coalize, perhaps with a 2/3 majority or something, and get rid of this moronic piece of orange shit? Or a way to call a snap election when confidence in the President falls to an all time low?

                                                    That's basically what the impeachment process IS. Like, exactly that, right down to the 2/3.

                                                    ANd it's not going to happen with the super controlled Republican house and senate unless/until the FBI start officially arresting people and accusing official crimes.

                                                    I mean, if the President were to suffer from debilitating dementia, but still refused to step down, what would happen? Could the V.P. take office against the sitting president's (unreasonable) will? Is there no way to just remove them, if they haven't done anything outwardly illegal?

                                                    25th amendment is there for exactly that. Like, exactly that.

                                                    But again, same issue. Mostly republican setup isn't going to pursue that until they absolutely have to or they have no choice, no matter how terrible Trump is being.

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                                                      It's been a surreal experience watching this decline happen. Like has there been a day without some BREAKING NEWS? If feel like we never get a break and it varies from Melania not wanting to hold hands to high treason.

                                                      I feel the same, to me it's like living in an episode of Seinfeld where George Costanza becomes President.

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                                                        I'd rather Trump be an….interesting chapter in our nation's history than a martyr.

                                                        ....oh god guys, one day Trump will be in history textbooks in classrooms.

                                                        On the upside, depending on how things go down, those entries will mostly be about how he lost the election by 3 million but still became president, and hopefully, was the first president to be actually impeached and fired and sent to jail. Look at Nixon. He had a productive first 4 years and was super popular but the impeachment is the only thing he's remembered for.

                                                        He's stuck in history books now… but he's going to be one of the all time worsts. And always always outshined by the first black president, and the first woman that's bound to come eventually. He'll always be a dumpster fire to us, but to most kids he'll just be one of the checklist presidents, one of the forty guys no one can actually name that did nothing important or interesting.

                                                        Hillary is probably honestly still going to get as much if not more history book time, depending how it all goes.

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                                                          The worst part of the unicorn brigade is that it seems to be compossed of the people who the damage of not compromising would affect the least. There's a reason that it was "bernie bros" and not "bernie minorities".

                                                          The same happened in Colombia, the elections to decide if they would decriminalize the FARC had way more negatives in the regions far away from the jungles, the places that aren't in direct danger of continuous guerrilla presence

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                                                            Merkel warns US, Britain no longer reliable partners

                                                            Trump did in 6 months what the Russians have been attempting for 72 years: break up the American-German alliance. So much winning!

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                                                              The Britains are playing against the EU to get the best deal for the Brexit they can. They're even trying to divide the Union to get a better deal.

                                                              Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre

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                                                                @Kaiolino:

                                                                Trump did in 6 months what the Russians have been attempting for 72 years: break up the American-German alliance. So much winning!

                                                                You say that as if Trump weren't also Russian for all intents and purposes.

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                                                                  The EU isn't an ally to the U.S., more like an american semi-colony, or lackeys if you will.

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                                                                    The EU isn't an ally to the U.S., more like an american semi-colony, or lackeys if you will.

                                                                    If that were true I don't think Trump would be as against them as he has been. He likes lackeys.

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                                                                      The EU isn't an ally to the U.S., more like an american semi-colony, or lackeys if you will.

                                                                      The word you're looking for might be "protectorate".

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                                                                      If that were true I don't think Trump would be as against them as he has been. He likes lackeys.

                                                                      Militarily speaking they are the lackeys of the US. European leaders are afraid of Poutine, so they're kind of anxious when it comes to Trump being anti-EU and pro-Poutine.
                                                                      Also, the US has always been patronizing toward the EU (and everyone else).

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                                                                        Julian Assange about Kushner's channel:

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                                                                          Nobody cares .

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                                                                            Nobody cares .

                                                                            16 chars Who are you?

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                                                                              He doesn't have to be anybody to dismiss Julian Assange and his bullshit (nor the rest of us).

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                                                                              I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                                                                Julian Assange believes that having uninterrupted channels to the Russians is a necessity, water remains wet, sun to rise tomorrow.

                                                                                Really, he's probably figured out that undermining American democracy to get Trump elected wasn't going to get him any thanks so he's switched to trying to personally ingratiate himself with Trump's people.

                                                                                Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                                  He doesn't have to be anybody to dismiss Julian Assange and his bullshit (nor the rest of us).

                                                                                  Don't tell me, he's with the russians too!

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                                                                                  Someone with a little more seniority when it comes to this discussion topic.

                                                                                  No need to tell me, I just caught a glimpse of your "seniority". 😉

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                                                                                    16 chars Who are you?

                                                                                    Someone with a little more seniority when it comes to this discussion topic.

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                                                                                      Don't tell me, he's with the russians too!

                                                                                      He's with the Russians, too.

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                                                                                        The EU isn't an ally to the U.S., more like an american semi-colony, or lackeys if you will.

                                                                                        That's the second dumb nothing post we've gotten from you in a week. If you maybe have anything beyond clueless one liners to commit, then maybe you can do something other than stop posting altogether.

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                                                                                        Julian Assange about Kushner's channel:

                                                                                        Oh nevermind, I guess you just want to smear your slug trail of Useful Idiot slime across our threads. Guess I should be careful what I wish for.

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                                                                                        Don't tell me, he's with the russians too!

                                                                                        This sort of comment was irritating four months ago, now its just hilarious.

                                                                                        We get it, you're a soft in the brain who laughs at people who don't get their news from youtubes, 4chan, reddit and Russian propaganda wings.
                                                                                        Yet thinks major newspapers are bad sources.

                                                                                        Go post in some other thread, the adults are talking in this one.

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                                                                                          Broccoli will enquire about Seth Rich's murder next.

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                                                                                            Let's not get personal, here.

                                                                                            Anywho

                                                                                            8th graders refuse to take photo with Paul Ryan

                                                                                            http://thehill.com/homenews/house/335479-8th-graders-refuse-to-take-photo-with-paul-ryan

                                                                                            Nearly a hundred, in fact. There were plenty who would, one even saying it was interesting to see him close up despite not agreeing with him, but that many middle schoolers saying "nuh-uh" feels like a new low on how he's regarded.

                                                                                            Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

                                                                                            Statler: No you haven't.

                                                                                            Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!

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                                                                                              Let's not get personal, here.

                                                                                              Anywho

                                                                                              8th graders refuse to take photo with Paul Ryan

                                                                                              http://thehill.com/homenews/house/335479-8th-graders-refuse-to-take-photo-with-paul-ryan

                                                                                              Nearly a hundred, in fact. There were plenty who would, one even saying it was interesting to see him close up despite not agreeing with him, but that many middle schoolers saying "nuh-uh" feels like a new low on how he's regarded.

                                                                                              I'm so proud of those kids. That's awesome.

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                                                                                                http://www.politico.eu/article/macron-says-long-trump-handshake-not-innocent/

                                                                                                French President Emmanuel Macron said his extended handshake with Donald Trump before a NATO summit was “not innocent” and intended to show he did not make even small concessions.

                                                                                                In an interview with the Journal du Dimanche published on Sunday, the French leader said his interaction with the American head of state was “a moment of truth.”

                                                                                                “My handshake with him was not innocent,” Macron said. “We need to show that we won’t make small concessions, even symbolic ones, while not overhyping things either.”

                                                                                                In the interview, Macron went on to compare Trump’s attitude to power with that of Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

                                                                                                “Donald Trump, the Turkish president or the Russian president believe in the logic of the trial of strength, which doesn’t bother me. I don’t believe in the diplomacy of public invective, but in my bilateral dialogues, I don’t let anything pass, that is how we are respected,” he said.

                                                                                                Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

                                                                                                Statler: No you haven't.

                                                                                                Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!

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                                                                                                  He allegedly had a button put on his desk to bring coca-cola to him. I'm not even slightly surprised at the golf cart story.

                                                                                                  To be fair, I'd probably do the same thing if I were president. Just a little indulgence to help with the stress. 😉

                                                                                                  Although since I gave up drinking soda I'd change it to iced tea.

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                                                                                                    http://www.politico.eu/article/macron-says-long-trump-handshake-not-innocent/

                                                                                                    I miss having a leader that sounded this educated…

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                                                                                                      To be fair, I'd probably do the same thing if I were president. Just a little indulgence to help with the stress. 😉

                                                                                                      Although since I gave up drinking soda I'd change it to iced tea.

                                                                                                      I had a discussion with someone I work with today who said the same thing. I thought about it and decided that I would be tempted to put a Pepsi button, but because I'm trying to stop drinking soda I'd have to compromise and at least let my ass get up and walk to the fridge if I'm gonna drink something bad like that.

                                                                                                      I wonder if the button is really some type of Pavlovian experiment conducted by the FBI?

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                                                                                                      A magical strange Twilight Zone episode where no other education is offered, and the only option is Bill Nye the Science Guy videos

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                                                                                                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/28/merkel-says-eu-cannot-completely-rely-on-us-and-britain-any-more-g7-talks

                                                                                                        Sounds more and more like we get a USA+Britain (if USA really has any interest in making trade deals with UK first, which is if the UK can stay the UK after Brexit is done and Scotland pushes for another indyref after knowing the consequences of Brexit) and a G5. I think Putin is sitting at home wondering what the hell happened that the world went crazy so quickly.

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