A daruma, huh? That makes a bit of sense..
Though I was kind of hoping for shape shifters to exist 
Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
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My main problem with Yamato is that her design is so fucking bland. And I'm not talking about "nami face" (altough, yes, that also). Kaido has one of the best designs on the series, super striking, and it's weird how much Oda dropped the ball with his daughter/son/whatever.
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I hope she turns to evil or something, that would help.
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My main problem with Yamato is that her design is so fucking bland. And I'm not talking about "nami face" (altough, yes, that also). Kaido has one of the best designs on the series, super striking, and it's weird how much Oda dropped the ball with his daughter/son/whatever.
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I hope she turns to evil or something, that would help.
How would that change the flaws you see with her design?:wassat:
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The use of Yamao by Luffy should be noted as significant as well.
Yes, I pointed that out on Twitter and it went viral.
I don't care what Yamato is, so long as he's fairly called what he wants.
And for now that appears to be he. Should that change, fine by me, so long as we're not avoiding calling a cartoon character what they want just bc of our own thoughts..
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Yamato has only been referred to as “he” by other characters so far. He said he “became a man”. I really cannot understand not calling him by male pronouns. And saying that there’s always Ivankov to clear things up…. Trans people do not need to fully transition for you to respect their pronouns. There doesn’t need to be that physical change for you to decide “ah ok he really is a man now”. Also I think it’s silly to say oda “dropped the ball” with yamato when he’s been in the series for less than 5 chapters.
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I also disagree that Oda dropped the ball. You only need to go back a few weeks when Yamato was THE topic of discussions for weeks on end. Not only in the new crewmate thread but in the chapter threads and others. The moment he was revealed, most people praised the instant success of his introduction, especially when comparing how remarkable it was compared to Carrot (for those who argue she is the last crewmate). And that extends to his design, with the eyelashes, the horns, the double coloured and double shape hair, rather unique fighting style, etc. I think Oda moved on from him a bit too quickly and he's been mostly just there in the last couple of chapters. But the intro was standout, no doubt about it. And he warrants a nice focused character arc, regardless of his future status after Wano is over. Plus, getting a likely flashback will also help develop his personality, goals, etc.
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It takes more than just 5 chapter to really get a feel for a character. I personally am enjoying Yamato as a character and I'm looking forward to that well deserved flashback and possible crew interaction, that i think will come.
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I also disagree that Oda dropped the ball. You only need to go back a few weeks when Yamato was THE topic of discussions for weeks on end. Not only in the new crewmate thread but in the chapter threads and others. The moment he was revealed, most people praised the instant success of his introduction, especially when comparing how remarkable it was compared to Carrot (for those who argue she is the last crewmate). And that extends to his design, with the eyelashes, the horns, the double coloured and double shape hair, rather unique fighting style, etc. I think Oda moved on from him a bit too quickly and he's been mostly just there in the last couple of chapters. But the intro was standout, no doubt about it. And he warrants a nice focused character arc, regardless of his future status after Wano is over. Plus, getting a likely flashback will also help develop his personality, goals, etc.
The reason, I think it feels Oda moved on from him, is simple because of all the other packed characters and plot lines, but Yamato is still heavily prevalent, but yes we need some more fleshing out etc to get a better feel.
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I also disagree that Oda dropped the ball. You only need to go back a few weeks when Yamato was THE topic of discussions for weeks on end. Not only in the new crewmate thread but in the chapter threads and others. The moment he was revealed, most people praised the instant success of his introduction, especially when comparing how remarkable it was compared to Carrot (for those who argue she is the last crewmate). And that extends to his design, with the eyelashes, the horns, the double coloured and double shape hair, rather unique fighting style, etc. I think Oda moved on from him a bit too quickly and he's been mostly just there in the last couple of chapters. But the intro was standout, no doubt about it. And he warrants a nice focused character arc, regardless of his future status after Wano is over. Plus, getting a likely flashback will also help develop his personality, goals, etc.
Dozens of characters are sporting horns un this arc though and Hiyori got underlashes too (i'd add that her very droopy eyes are way more striking than Yamato's eyes imo). And the Nami-esque feeling got pointed out as soon as the face got revealed. I guess the double colored hair are nice but overall the texture and the way it shapes his face is nothing new either. Oda could have def took more risks, we're talking about Kaido's only child here.
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I also disagree that Oda dropped the ball. You only need to go back a few weeks when Yamato was THE topic of discussions for weeks on end. Not only in the new crewmate thread but in the chapter threads and others. The moment he was revealed, most people praised the instant success of his introduction, especially when comparing how remarkable it was compared to Carrot (for those who argue she is the last crewmate). And that extends to his design, with the eyelashes, the horns, the double coloured and double shape hair, rather unique fighting style, etc. I think Oda moved on from him a bit too quickly and he's been mostly just there in the last couple of chapters. But the intro was standout, no doubt about it. And he warrants a nice focused character arc, regardless of his future status after Wano is over. Plus, getting a likely flashback will also help develop his personality, goals, etc.
It's hard for Oda not to move on from Yamato because he introduced them right at the middle of the arc's climax (or at least, Act 3's climax). There are yonkou to be fought, no time to make friends. I suspect there will be more time for that after Act 3 ends since I don't think this is the last battle of the arc.
He's still making a point to give Yamato a line of dialogue or two every chapter, though.
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My reason for liking Oden is simple.
"Going over the top" is a big theme of the series. And he did that, a lot. He was both selfless sometimes and selfish others. He had flaws. He was strong. He had a, in my opinion, very memorable death.I really don't need much more than that. I've liked characters in this series for their funny laugh.
I feel like I would have to try to actively dislike him combining confirmation bias and negativity bias to hate him.
Croc or Enel would never.Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
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That's how I read it, and the only thing I'd ask is an understanding that if read that way, it can be understandable. That said, I wouldn't dare suggest it must be read that way. But if you're wondering why people can appreciate what Oden did, that's part of it.
It is probably more in tune with the authors intent for how it should be read too. But that sort of hones in on my main issue with Oden, that there always is supposed to be a read where Oden comes out smelling like roses, to me it feels like he never really gets to own his consequences or feel flawed since anything questionable he does is supposed to be excused due to X, while anything good he does is lifted up and deified to the extreme. Like contrast how the Roger pirates remember Roger fondly, but more like a great friend, with how the scabbards venerate Oden like he could've done no wrong. But eh that's enough Oden rambling from me, ready the well thought out rebbutals
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I know you were discussing with Silence, but if I might comment.
Sure, go nuts.
But they didn't.
He was hated in the country, and during that time he gave zero effs despite pretty much everything he did was either misunderstood, misconstrued, or actively turned against him. And yet, he kept doing what he felt was right for the greater good, albeit a very roundabout way of it. Like Luffy.
When he straightened himself up because of what social norms demanded (for the good of the country), then they took notice and respected him.
He leaves. He comes back, he wants to stay but now he can't for what he strongly believes is a far greater good. The people rejoice.
….And promptly they find him to be a complete loser, meeting all their previous suspicions and accusations. We know, of course, he's doing this on their behalf so it might not feel as personal, but Oden was genuinely hated.
And that is precisely how he would have died if not for Shinobu.
So I don't think it's fair to gloss over that relationship.
Almost everything Oden did, to his great disadvantage, was to benefit a greater good for the country without asking for anything in return.
Dancing in the street like a fool is that commitment.
He dies smiling because he knows the dawn will come and he was part of it.
I wouldn't call it compelling because it's classic OP to a T. But it is a tragedy. The way you've interpreted his actions and relationships I can understand why it might not appear that way, but if one follows his motivations it's quite clear that a very small slice of the country only realized what they had in him where moments before they gathered to jeer at his death, a death where he literally helped pave the way for saving the future of the country.
I apologize for responding all in bulk and not doing it point by point, but thishas been stewing in my head for a few days, and with limited time for forum’ing this is the easiest way for me to get it out.
I agree that the whole dancing in the streets thing does serve as a showcase of Oden doing something for his country, and that there was conflict being wrung out of it in terms of his reputation, but only in the most factual, practical sense. Because t it is also a sequence of like, 8 pages before taking off to confront Kaidou, happening 10 chapters into a flashback absolutely loaded with other things, and as a reader, it doesn’t sell me on a deep, personal bond between Oden and his people. I don’t feel it. I don’t care.
(Side note: This is always my default foundation for criticism I give; Not whether things “made sense” from a logical viewpoint, but whether it was compelling narratively, did it work to provoke an emotional response in the moment, was I invested, was it satisfying? Which is of course highly subjective, so all I can do here is lay out my reasoning for my response, or lack of)
Where the absolute focus something like Choppers flashback was his relationship with Hiruluk, which was mined for maximum emotional impact, over the course of Odens flashback, we cover:
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His father
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9 retainers, most of which have wildly different circumstances- Odens history with Kawamatsu is wildly different from his history with Kinemon, which is different from his history with Ashura, which is different from the 2 kings etc
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Whitebeard
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His time travelling void-century Wanoese wife
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His two children
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Hyogoro and his random yet very important nameless wife
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Two different villains (one the main villain of the new world, another with a deep history of conflict with Odens clan
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And finally, The Wano citizenry in general
With so many balls in the air, theres’ no time to dig deep into any one of these relationships, least of all from Odens perspective. They just sort of bubble to the surface in waves at the story demands it. That’s what I mean when I say it doesn’t “commit”.
Now, you can absolutely do a story just about a single guys relationship with His People (which isn’t what happened here), but in terms of making the reader emotionally invested it has the innate problem of one side of the equation, The People, being a nameless faceless mass, compared to, well, relationships with named people with faces (of which Oden have quite many). And it doesn’t help that Oden makes it explicit from page one that he doesn’t care about how he is perceived by people.
It’s a relationship that starts off with Oden doing what he pleases and people being mad at him (though secretly all admiring him).
Then through the process of Oden continuing to do what he pleases (the independent carefree would-be voyagers abrupt desire to become a local landlocked-lord doesn’t seem motivated by a desire to change on behalf of anyone else), everyone comes to love him.
When he follows his ultimate dream and abandons everyone, his wife makes sure they all love him anyway, which mostly seems a jogging-in-place necessity for Oden to then lose his goodwill instantly with the 5-year-gap-bridging Dancing Fool period.Now here, Oden is doing the “right thing”, truly not doing something for himself but for others- but it doesn’t feel like its weighing on him, it doesn’t feel like he’s losing much because, apart from the whole thing being a rather short segment as mentioned above, he didn’t care about prestige in the first place. It just feels like something Oden…does.
The decision to do this is the most selfless thing Oden does after years of being gone, it’s a huge turning point for his character – but we don’t get to see him making said decision. Thats’ kept hidden to turn his foolishness into a “mystery”, but it keeps us as readers at a distance. And when the solution comes to said mystery it is not from Oden himself expressing his love and dedication to his country, but from another character - Shinobu – laying out how nice and selfless Oden is. Again, putting us at a distance.The most emotion he shows during his dancing days is A) at the death of travelling companion Roger, and B), the death of a completely new character we don’t know or care about.
In the end, Oden –after a brief (in paneltime) dancing interlude- regains the love of Wano (which he never cared about), and makes a final speech not about his love for his country, or regret for its current state, but about the importance of something that means nothing to the people of Wano. It doesn’t feel like a huge gesture or sacrifice on their behalf, because we have no idea what he’s talking about, and its not relevant to the present moment.It just feels very flat. Theres dramatic bits and pieces here and there, but ultimately I think the flashback tried covering too much, and was too hobbled by the need to hide Odens entire motivation. The Skypea flashback didn’t provide all the puzzle pieces of Shandoras history either, but that didn’t matter because the characters and motivations of Noland and Calgara were clear, and the story was 100% dedicated to making you feel for the tragedy of their friendship. There just isn’t that focus In Odens flashback, and so, to me, he ends up coming off simply as a guy loved by everyone who died happy and content (different from “dying with a weary smile straight after incredible emotional anguish”), which just isn’t particularly interesting or memorable to me.
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On the discussion about Kaido wanting to have an epic death, this video elaborates on it:
He also gives out an interesting point: just like Roger, WB and Oden got their epic deaths, Rocks doesn't seem to have gotten one, and may have been forgotten by history. So Maybe Kaido's biggest fear is ending up like Rocks.
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On the discussion about Kaido wanting to have an epic death, this video elaborates on it:
He also gives out an interesting point: just like Roger, WB and Oden got their epic deaths, Rocks doesn't seem to have gotten one, and may have been forgotten by history. So Maybe Kaido's biggest fear is ending up like Rocks.
If Xebec doesn't get un-silhouetted soon, I'm pretty darn sure he's alive.
Croc or Enel would never.Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
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On the discussion about Kaido wanting to have an epic death, this video elaborates on it:
He also gives out an interesting point: just like Roger, WB and Oden got their epic deaths, Rocks doesn't seem to have gotten one, and may have been forgotten by history. So Maybe Kaido's biggest fear is ending up like Rocks.
I still think Kaido has a good chance of dying at the end of Wano - just not the way he intented. I could either see someone considered relatively unremarkable or weak swooping in at the last moment - after the battle even perhaps - and just leaving him for dead. Moria might fit that bill, it would grant him his revenge and could also directly tie into Blackbeard, as this is where we last saw him.
Another possibilty would be that Kaido actually has some change of heart towards the end and goes out in a way that doesn't seem that grand relatively but has an actual meaning to it like finally being a good father and protecting Yamato from something.
I just don't really see either Big Mom or Kaido just rotting away in a jail cell towards the finale of the series, but I don't see them much participating in the final war as well.
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Yes, I pointed that out on Twitter and it went viral.
I don't care what Yamato is, so long as he's fairly called what he wants.
And for now that appears to be he. Should that change, fine by me, so long as we're not avoiding calling a cartoon character what they want just bc of our own thoughts..
Yamato has only been referred to as “he” by other characters so far. He said he “became a man”. I really cannot understand not calling him by male pronouns. And saying that there’s always Ivankov to clear things up…. Trans people do not need to fully transition for you to respect their pronouns. There doesn’t need to be that physical change for you to decide “ah ok he really is a man now”. Also I think it’s silly to say oda “dropped the ball” with yamato when he’s been in the series for less than 5 chapters.
Yep, I agree entirely.
I also wonder if meeting Ivankov is part of Yamato’s desire to go to sea. Could factor into his dream.
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https://one-piece.com/special/greg/detail/20200812_1167.html?l=en
Gerg talks about the battle taking place all across Wano with all the forces splitting up. Sounds fun and exciting and I hope it comes true. It does make total sense that the locals should see the fall of their monster. Does that mean Orochi manages to slither his way back there and the towns folk see him for what he really is? Yes.
Greg you mentioned you'd like to see a battle atop Mt Fujiyama, have you made a formal request to the man himself? Did he respond with a wink and nudge? Request Sanji to fight King there just to mess with the Zoro hopefuls.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Yamato has only been referred to as “he” by other characters so far. He said he “became a man”. I really cannot understand not calling him by male pronouns. And saying that there’s always Ivankov to clear things up…. Trans people do not need to fully transition for you to respect their pronouns. There doesn’t need to be that physical change for you to decide “ah ok he really is a man now”. Also I think it’s silly to say oda “dropped the ball” with yamato when he’s been in the series for less than 5 chapters.
Thats not entirely true. She used terms that often women in Japan uses when they want to appear "tomboyish" but not necessarily males. Also when Luffy says "Yamao" she corrects him telling to call her Yamato.
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This guy.. he posted spoiler for next chapter in youtube and said it came from his friend in japan.
I actually dont believe him but it could be real. Perhaps his friend is among oda circle.
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…It's the term for when you are X but want to appear Y?
Who feels the need to include such a function in their language.
Japanese reigns supreme as the most out there language i'm aware of.
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Also when Luffy says "Yamao" she corrects him telling to call her Yamato.
Because that's not his name? He showed no indication of being annoyed with the gender aspect of the nickname, just that Luffy got his name wrong to begin with.
Also there's certainly an irony in listening to Yamato correct Luffy, but dismissing him when he explicitly states that they became a man and consider themselves to be Kaido's son.
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Thank you Blissed!! Exactly what I wanted to say. Couldn’t agree more.
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Yamato correcting Luffy reminds of when Brook corrected Luffy lol
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Hey Greg this could be old news/information at this point but is Kaido at all in any shape or form an allegory as China to Wano's/Oden's Japan?
Edit: I'm pretty sure I used the wrong word here but I hope you get my point.
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Hey Greg this could be old news/information at this point but is Kaido at all in any shape or form an allegory as China to Wano's/Oden's Japan?
Edit: I'm pretty sure I used the wrong word here but I hope you get my point.
Eh, maybe my history needs brushed up but I feel this is closer to the Mongol invasion (but I could be wrong here)
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Kaido does feel much more like a Gengis/Kublai Khan type than a typical Chinese emperor of non-mongolian dynasties.
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Yeah that's true! It's the dragon part why my mind went to China.
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https://one-piece.com/special/greg/detail/20200812_1167.html?l=en
Gerg talks about the battle taking place all across Wano with all the forces splitting up. Sounds fun and exciting and I hope it comes true. It does make total sense that the locals should see the fall of their monster. Does that mean Orochi manages to slither his way back there and the towns folk see him for what he really is? Yes.
Greg you mentioned you'd like to see a battle atop Mt Fujiyama, have you made a formal request to the man himself? Did he respond with a wink and nudge? Request Sanji to fight King there just to mess with the Zoro hopefuls.
Marco is still the most likely option for king, so either sanji team up with marco on king or gets something else. But sanji is still second option after marco, not zoro. If 9 scabbards gets defeated, maybe the 10 straw hats team up on kaidou and then sanji's flight will be fully used with dragon kaidou.
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Greg any idea who are the pheasant and the dog in team Momoluffytarou ?
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Oh man! The fighting is finally starting! I love One Piece in it's entirety, but I've been waiting for a good fight arc for a while now
Also Monquito mentioned in another thread, did anybody notice that VegaPunk's head, from the silhouette we saw of him, looks an awful lot like the head of the Jolly Roger of the Space Pirates?
I wonder what that means
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Oh man! The fighting is finally starting! I love One Piece in it's entirety, but I've been waiting for a good fight arc for a while now
Also Monquito mentioned in another thread, did anybody notice that VegaPunk's head, from the silhouette we saw of him, looks an awful lot like the head of the Jolly Roger of the Space Pirates?
I wonder what that means
I wouldn't put it behind Vegapunk to have created an android pirate crew to explore the moon lol
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I wouldn't put it behind Vegapunk to have created an android pirate crew to explore the moon lol
Oh man, that's a pretty cool theory
maybe what he found up there has something to do with this new superpower SSG he made
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@Joy:
Greg any idea who are the pheasant and the dog in team Momoluffytarou ?
It was so obvious nobody ever expected it. Suddenly Akainu, Kizaru, and Aokiji (now Kuzan) show up and blast Kaido away.
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@Joy:
Greg any idea who are the pheasant and the dog in team Momoluffytarou ?
I personally am on board with the Marco is the pheasent theory that's been around for years but I was never keen on having Inuarashi as being the dog, like some people sugested.
For one, it was always too obvious. Yes Luffy is the monkey, but that's just a coincidence with his name, while Dogstorm is a literal dog, it's too on the snout. And he was presented as a duo with Nekomamushi, why would you separate them for the final battle? And after all the flashbacks and story with the rest of scabbards it makes even less sense to separate them, if you one the scabbards was going to fill that role with would probably be Kinnemon or Denjiro, who knew Oden the longest.
So right now I'm leaning to the newly introduced Yamato. He cleary has some important role to play before this is all over and he wants to fight his father, that clash will happen at some point even if he ends up not being the Dog of this story. And there's room for some nice metaphors, a son rebelling against his father is a dog biting the hand that feeds him but dogs are also very loyal and protective of the people who treat them well so you can build some nice/cool scenes based on that.
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Minks as a whole could symbolise "The Dog", the Pheasant is clearly Marco.
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Yeah Oda is clearly not going for a strict parallel of the Momotaro story but it's there.
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law always looked like dalmatian dog to me.
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Also Monquito mentioned in another thread, did anybody notice that VegaPunk's head, from the silhouette we saw of him, looks an awful lot like the head of the Jolly Roger of the Space Pirates?
I wonder what that means
Oftenly I just get along with other's people theories because main are usually garbage, and I been under the impression that most people already noticed that but turns out, not really.
So imma elaborate other details so that Greg might do a notice me senpai:wub:The truth is, I was already sold to this theory before we got to see Vegapunk's silhouette from PH, that only kinda made it even more obvious to me, but the real suspicious stuff, is that Professor Tsukimi(that one old man who dies at the beggining of Enel's cover story), it's a resident of Karakuri island, that's Vegapunk's birthplace and where Franky was sent to by Kuma, that alone already points out a certain connection here.
What's really awfully lookalike here, it's that the Automata Professor Tsukimi created look exactly like the Automatas in the moon, as if they just copied the model from observing it themselves, and these robots were capable of reaching the moon, so it makes me believe, both Vegapunk and Tsukimi at some point, travelled to the moon and discovered the Automatas but left them behind and probably just copied or took a couple of them for research purposes. And when Vegapunk went to work with the WG, unable to keep visiting the moon by himself, he created and sent the Space Pirates to keep looking for more stuff like these.
By the time Coby mentions there's this amazing scientist who's like a huge genius, I already pictured in my main the usual large brain dude stereotype of a mad scientist we get in manga/anime like all of the time, and made the connection to the Space Pirate's Jolly Roger, so when Vegapunk's silhouette came in, I was perplex, it all really seems like it.Plus, this could be like a real good excuse to either send the SH's to the Moon, or bring back Enel, cause they can go and check what happened to the Space Pirates, or send even stronger androids to fight Enel and the Automatas.
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Is this official spelling of Calm Belt? or is it misspelling from PREMICO?
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It must be the name of the guy who produced it, Mr. Bert Carm
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Why is Vivi the only one on there not exposing massive amount of cleavage? For cripes sake Robin, zip that thing up, you're about to fall out!
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@uniaka:
law always looked like dalmatian dog to me.
maybe because according to the sbs he is a spotted seal, and according to the animal toyline he is a snow leopard, all white with black dots, so not too far off.
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Is this official spelling of Calm Belt? or is it misspelling from PREMICO?
There's a picture out there somewhere (can't believe I didn't save it) of one of Oda's own notebooks with GLAND LINE written in it, so yes, obviously retcons of all existing translations are in order.
But really, this is a great example of why you can't just take every romanisation used in official merch (or even in the manga itself) is the one true official one. They're prone to misspellings and inconsistencies, and are only written that way for aesthetic reasons, not to give western fans an "official" spelling.
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Is this official spelling of Calm Belt? or is it misspelling from PREMICO?
Before reading, I thought this was another Nami face meme
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https://one-piece.com/special/greg/detail/20200812_1167.html?l=en
Gerg talks about the battle taking place all across Wano with all the forces splitting up. Sounds fun and exciting and I hope it comes true. It does make total sense that the locals should see the fall of their monster. Does that mean Orochi manages to slither his way back there and the towns folk see him for what he really is? Yes.
Greg you mentioned you'd like to see a battle atop Mt Fujiyama, have you made a formal request to the man himself? Did he respond with a wink and nudge? Request Sanji to fight King there just to mess with the Zoro hopefuls.
Still have a general theory that Orochi is alive and due to being betrayed, will physically try and Destroy Wano, with each region holding a key to doing so. I think Orochi knows how the island came to be how it is, and possibly knows how to break it down. This will cause Kaido's and Luffy's sides to pursue each location in each region to stop it from happening while simultaneously face each other.
This will be the ticking time bomb portion of the arc, which is pretty staple of Oda to do each arc at this point to increase tension
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@Gia:
Still have a general theory that Orochi is alive and due to being betrayed, will physically try and Destroy Wano, with each region holding a key to doing so. I think Orochi knows how the island came to be how it is, and possibly knows how to break it down. This will cause Kaido's and Luffy's sides to pursue each location in each region to stop it from happening while simultaneously face each other.
This will be the ticking time bomb portion of the arc, which is pretty staple of Oda to do each arc at this point to increase tension
It's Hodi Jones and Vander Decken all over again, lol.
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It's Hodi Jones and Vander Decken all over again, lol.
Its unfortunately a lot of arcs.
Crocodile and his Utopia bomb
Enel and his Maxim
Doflamingo and Bird Cage
BM and her hunger pangsReally nothing new and tbh I expect it this arc from Oda. Since Kaido wants to transform Wano to a lawless land, its either going to be him destroying Wano himself and reshaping it or Orochi trying to destroy Wano in his own way because its part of his Kurozumi revenge.
Edit: Not sure how I forgot these but:
- Kuro and his pirate raid
- Spandam and the Buster Call on Enies Lobby
- Moria and holding in shadows as a race against time before sunrise
- Caesar and Shi no Kuni
Pretty much every major arc has this type of desperation plot. I'm not saying its bad at all, in fact I appreciate the increase in tension, but its something Oda gravitates to.
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@Gia:
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Huh… I know.
I think you missed why I made such a specific reference.
