@access-timeco said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

@Chrior said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

But I think the way Oda depicted Jinbe's hair changing throughout the years is also a nod to the Japanese young rebel hairstyle thing. As Jinbe grew, calmed down and matured, his hair naturally reflected that. Going from a blonde spikey haired thug into an honorable "oyabun" with black hair in a topknot. Just, y'know, naturally. Of course.

I wouldn't be surprised if, just like Kin'emon, Jinbe's light hair on his younger years was also meant to be dyed and Oda just forgot about it when drawing this chapter.

If so, we'll probably see him with a black hair when the chapter makes into a volume.

Nah, you can see his hair gradually shift from golden to black throughout the years. It's not just a simple 100 % gold -> 100 % black. His eyebrows and sideburns are still gold even today. I think it's an artistic thing, to represent his personality shift, but occurring naturally.

Totally agree. Really fun to follow, with a very focused and contained story. Fun, well rounded characters. Beautiful ending. Hope the author doesn't pull an epilogue like kimetsu no yaiba in the last chapter.

Like other have said, I really liked the fact that they culminate all of these different bits of build up we've been getting for years and years:

• Vegapunk research in general;
• the first Pacifista generation as Kuma clones with a different devil fruit derived from Kizaru;
• devil fruit cloning, not only in the original Pacifistas but also with Momo's dragon fruit;
• child experimentation and gigantification being a line of research for a really long time.
• finally, the lunarians recently introduced through King, as well as ancient races in general;

It's been such a slow but methodic craft to get us to the point where the introduction of Seraphims as warlord replacements just seemed natural. I'm really curious to see where Oda is taking this plotline element.

Plus, the Jinbe Seraphim fighting with Señor Pink's devil fruit was such a fun and clever mode by Oda!

@Seafarer33 said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

@Captain-M said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

The grey from Film Z going to black seems reasonable, but the beigey shade from the colour manga Fishman Island flashback is a much bigger shift than I've ever heard of happening in real life.

It could be the black hair of the manga that is misleading and his color is meant to be a dark brown. As .access said, around here as well (northern Europe) a blonde kid growing up to darker hair is very common. Not going all the way to asian black hair of course, but the difference can be stunning.

Southern Europe-rep here. My wife was naturally blonde, as in Northern European blonde, as a kid. In her teenage years, her hair became deep-dark brown. As you said, not actually black, but it could be mistaken by black in dimmer light. So it is a thing in real life. Just for the record, she keeps dying her hair blonde because that's how she's always seen herself

But I think the way Oda depicted Jinbe's hair changing throughout the years is also a nod to the Japanese young rebel hairstyle thing. As Jinbe grew, calmed down and matured, his hair naturally reflected that. Going from a blonde spikey haired thug into an honorable "oyabun" with black hair in a topknot. Just, y'know, naturally. Of course.

@RomanceDawn Funny how I thought that was just an urban myth, but I ended up researching the etymology of 'slave' and learned that it is indeed true! Interesting!

@RomanceDawn Funny how I thought that was just an urban myth, but I ended up researching the etymology of 'slave' and learned that it is indeed true! Interesting!

I'm liking it so far. It's been a really long time since I started following a series in Jump like this. I hope I'm not bored/disappointed after 2 months yet again.

Like other have said, I really liked the fact that they culminate all of these different bits of build up we've been getting for years and years:

• Vegapunk research in general;
• the first Pacifista generation as Kuma clones with a different devil fruit derived from Kizaru;
• devil fruit cloning, not only in the original Pacifistas but also with Momo's dragon fruit;
• child experimentation and gigantification being a line of research for a really long time.
• finally, the lunarians recently introduced through King, as well as ancient races in general;

It's been such a slow but methodic craft to get us to the point where the introduction of Seraphims as warlord replacements just seemed natural. I'm really curious to see where Oda is taking this plotline element.

Plus, the Jinbe Seraphim fighting with Señor Pink's devil fruit was such a fun and clever mode by Oda!

I don't think I would eat a regular devil fruit in the real world because I really love swimming, so I wouldn't want to lose that ability. But if I was a One Piece character, I'd totally get a devil fruit. Never in my frigging life would I eat a SMILE though. That shit is creeeeeepy. Even if I was sure it would 100% work to give me fruit powers, the things it does to your body are way too freaky. No way in hell. It's almost torture. Like Nina from Fullmetal Alchemist.

@access-timeco said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

@Chrior said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

But I think the way Oda depicted Jinbe's hair changing throughout the years is also a nod to the Japanese young rebel hairstyle thing. As Jinbe grew, calmed down and matured, his hair naturally reflected that. Going from a blonde spikey haired thug into an honorable "oyabun" with black hair in a topknot. Just, y'know, naturally. Of course.

I wouldn't be surprised if, just like Kin'emon, Jinbe's light hair on his younger years was also meant to be dyed and Oda just forgot about it when drawing this chapter.

If so, we'll probably see him with a black hair when the chapter makes into a volume.

Nah, you can see his hair gradually shift from golden to black throughout the years. It's not just a simple 100 % gold -> 100 % black. His eyebrows and sideburns are still gold even today. I think it's an artistic thing, to represent his personality shift, but occurring naturally.

@Seafarer33 said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

@Captain-M said in Chapter 1064: Egghead Labophase:

The grey from Film Z going to black seems reasonable, but the beigey shade from the colour manga Fishman Island flashback is a much bigger shift than I've ever heard of happening in real life.

It could be the black hair of the manga that is misleading and his color is meant to be a dark brown. As .access said, around here as well (northern Europe) a blonde kid growing up to darker hair is very common. Not going all the way to asian black hair of course, but the difference can be stunning.

Southern Europe-rep here. My wife was naturally blonde, as in Northern European blonde, as a kid. In her teenage years, her hair became deep-dark brown. As you said, not actually black, but it could be mistaken by black in dimmer light. So it is a thing in real life. Just for the record, she keeps dying her hair blonde because that's how she's always seen herself

But I think the way Oda depicted Jinbe's hair changing throughout the years is also a nod to the Japanese young rebel hairstyle thing. As Jinbe grew, calmed down and matured, his hair naturally reflected that. Going from a blonde spikey haired thug into an honorable "oyabun" with black hair in a topknot. Just, y'know, naturally. Of course.

I seriously thought this moment would never come again. I can't remember a damn thing about the "current arc" at this point.

@Robby said in Vinland Saga:

@Chrior said in Vinland Saga:

But then it's ruined by the fact that we're promised a journey to find One Piece and then we stop for ages in the Alabasta civil war and, by the time it's finished, instead of continuing the journey, we have a big timeskip and go straight to the final war, while being just informed that yes, they found One Piece.

Okay, I know this is from two years ago but... was it really THAT upsetting that there was a time skip? We saw the part of the journey that ended the civil war and the major character arcs for everyone involved in it... and then the next two years of the journey were relatively uneventful. They peacefully made it to town, traded somehorns, got rich, then came back. Covered in a super quick flashback, no biggie.

If the author has been doing the series for 17 years and is burning out, I'd much rather they high speed it through a not-important part in the middle that is JUST about "getting money so we can then start the real adventure" so they can spend proper time on the ending, rather than spending months or years just going through a filler town where the characters don't grow or change or do anything super new or interesting....

only to then end up hyper rushing the actual finale because they're tired of the series and burned out and just desperately want to be done.

I'm looking at you Oda.

Oh hey, AP forums is back up! I had not really noticed yet. Glad to see it up and running and all brand new!

And it's nice to see you picked up Vinland Saga and loved it! It is still an incredible series, despite my previous complaints.
On this topic, I think other posters have already mostly explained my point of view in the meantime. To answer directly to your post, yes, I absolutely stand by what I said before. I think the timing with which we followed this story makes a huge difference in how we perceived these developments. And I think the same applies to people who started following it during the Askelad plot and had to deal with the farm saga as it was coming out. I loved the farm saga because I got to read the whole thing in one go and could adapt quickly to the change in tone and pace compared to the previous part of the story. But I can imagine that the people who picked up the story early on would be a bit weirded out by how it turned out then.

Although Vinland Saga is mainly about exploring character developments and not about events per se, I think it's also a really good historical series. And I have a deeeeeep fascination with this time period. And, in particular, I have a deeeeeeep fascination with the Byzantine Roman Empire exactly in this time period. So the promise of a seafaring adventure where we could explore the viking trading routes across eastern Europe all the way down to Constantinople was GOLD for me.
So I was left really disappointed when we were cut really short and just treated to a one-page flashback saying nothing really happened over the rest of the journey. You can say that it might have been the author's intention from the start, but it didn't feel that way AT ALL, from my perspective. It feels much more likely that the author really got tired of that idea and decided to skip all the way to Vinland proper and get to the end of the series faster. Which might be a wise decision, like you argued by comparing it to the way OP has been developing lately. But it was still greatly disappointing for me. It was a missed opportunity, and claiming that "nothing really happened so it was better to skip straight to the end" just feels like an excuse for "the author didn't want to come up with anything for that portion of the story". It was the author's decision to write that "nothing really happened", not an inevitable thing.
The fact that the Roman Emperor's personal bodyguard and elite regiment of the army was a VIKING UNIT had an immense potential for exploration in this series. We could have gone all the way to the different theatres of war that the Empire fought in during Basil II's reign, in the Balkans, in Armenia, in Syria/Levant... So many different settings and cultures and experiences that could have been shown...

I still enjoy reading Vinland Saga, but I have to keep trying to forget that part of it, otherwise I will just get mad at the author over and over again.

@pariston_hill:

We're cutting you from SWIFT but we're not cutting the oil/gas buying.

Also Jesus Fucking Christ the amount of racist/xenophobe/bigoted spoken by western anchors and on site reporters is just absurd. It's like were back at the XIX century and only US and Europe are civilized parts of the world.
Also african an brazilian residents of Ukraine are being barred in the Poland border.

https://bantumen.com/2022/02/28/portugueses-retidos-na-ucrania/

Jesus fucking Christ. Racism at a refugee crisis is so appalling.

@pariston_hill:

Also african an brazilian residents of Ukraine are being barred in the Poland border.

That is so f'ing sad. Ridiculous. Even at a time like this, Poland's government can behave like mongrels. Just let'em come to Portugal, dammit!