Why is everyone thinking the spoilers will come today?
Because the chapter comes tomorrow? If they aren't posted today and just a little while before the chapter comes out then there wouldn't be any point in posting them in the first place.
Chapter 720: Convict Gladiators
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I think there will be at least one major player we haven´t seen yet on DR. Boa or Croco is my guess, helping the strahats or most likely aokiji.
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we still dont know who the 7th Schicibukai is , what if it's enel
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Enel cut off the arm of Z some years ago even if he knew shit about the Grand Line in his fight against Luffy
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it's enel bitches
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No 7th schicibukai is a new character. And if i judge from the introduction Oda has done for him i believe he's gonna be really badass.
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iiiiii want spoilersssssssss
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Enel cut off the arm of Z some years ago even if he knew shit about the Grand Line in his fight against Luffy
It was obviously Buggy the clown.
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It was obviously Buggy the clown.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/158793/one-piece_ch700_by_mangarule/13
Also Buggy joined 2 years ago not 1.
You might call me a young fool…Or a stake that sticks out...But I'm...Will never...Be hammered down by anyone!
BECAUSE I AM RUBBER !!!!
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Conqueror's Haki making the ground to tremble…
F'N
CONQUEROR'S
HAKI
!!!111111111111!!!!lol come to think of it, is this forshadowing?! :ninja:.
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@Warden:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/158793/one-piece_ch700_by_mangarule/13
Also Buggy joined 2 years ago not 1.
Kill my poor little joke why dontcha :(
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So is Kuzan gonna crash this party or what?
He made his appearance in Punk Hazard…he knows something is up with Dolfa and SHs.
He's communicating with BB and his crew...there's a very good chance he knows about the tournament.
I keep having this feeling he's just gonna pop up randomly somewhere....
Maybe Green Bit? Maybe we'll see a Aokiji and Fujitora encounter?
All I know is if Kuzan and Momonosuke don't meet... I'm going to be soooo pissed. -
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@Monkey:
Are you one of those idiots who thinks Zoro beat Mihawk over the time skip because loll.
Certainly not, If it only took two years for Zoro to achieve his dream, then it is by all means a cheap one. Don't tell me you're one of those idiots who underestimate Zoro? I for one wouldn't be surprised is he's the one to take out DD or hold off Fuji(keep him busy) for a while.
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BTW, I'm thinking, how the hell did Doflamingo organized a "mera mera no mi" tournament on a short notice (less than a day)? Assuming that he just thought of it as soon as he knew Luffy is allied with Law. Yeah, I know it is a bit late to ask these kinds of questions, but the only answer I can think of is that the participants are just from nearby islands and rush there as soon as they heard of it. Or, this fad has been going on for a while now and nobody seems to have claimed the fruit as of now.
Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!
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Certainly not, If it only took two years for Zoro to achieve his dream, then it is by all means a cheap one. Don't tell me you're one of those idiots who underestimate Zoro? I for one wouldn't be surprised is he's the one to take out DD or hold off Fuji(keep him busy) for a while.
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It would be nice if someone other than Luffy took out DD, but of all the Strawhats, Luffy actually makes more narrative sense this time (other than being main character) because he's already challenged DD himself and the others don't seem to have direct beef with him. So it definitely won't be Zoro. I say that if anyone beats DD, it's either Luffy through typical determination and strength, or Law with a trump card he hasn't been able to activate yet. Leaning to Luffy because that's just tradition (albeit a somewhat boring and predictable one, why did Jimbe not take Hody again?).
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There is not even the slimmest chance that Zoro will be the one to finish Dofla.
…It wouldn't make any sense.
Luffy or Law will finish Dofla...Cause you know...either WOULD make sense.
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Kill my poor little joke why dontcha :(
Haha sorry i didn't catch it. You should have said Sabo
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lots of people are viewing the Manga forum. guess everyone's waiting for the spoiler.
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Just a quick thought about this chapter's last page. The scene with Rebecca crying because she realizes the need to get stronger can be paralleled to when Luffy was protected by the support of his 2 older brothers when he was a child or to when he realized at the end of the first half that he would need to train even further to move ahead. In the three cases the protectee wanted to become the protector by brushing up their skills .I´m sure Luffy´s empathy to her will grow even stronger from now on. What takes Rebecca apart from some other characters that have been portrayed in the series, is that instead of wanting to play the damsel in distress (as many people would love to call her … ehmm whine over her) she is actually striving to get stronger and she´s found at least a goal, an utopic one but nontheless. Even if I think a df is a cheap way to gain power, I cannot deny that it is one of the ways within OP. Gutsy gal indeed. I Like her. (No NN supporter btw)
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WAT? Are you a bot?
BTW, I'm thinking, how the hell did Doflamingo organized a "mera mera no mi" tournament on a short notice (less than a day)? Assuming that he just thought of it as soon as he knew Luffy is allied with Law. Yeah, I know it is a bit late to ask these kinds of questions, but the only answer I can think of is that the participants are just from nearby islands and rush there as soon as they heard of it. Or, this fad has been going on for a while now and nobody seems to have claimed the fruit as of now.
I was wondering about that as well. My best bet is that the prize had been announced in advance, allowing people to travel to Dressrosa, and Laws shenanigans made Doffy decide to hold the tournament that particular day, as a trap. It seems highly unlikely that Doffy managed to find the higly particular fruit in the small timeframe between PH and dressrosa, so more likely he's had it for a while, and teased it through his underground network…particularly to agressive countries like Elizaberros or the Funk Bros.
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I was wondering about that as well. My best bet is that the prize had been announced in advance, allowing people to travel to Dressrosa, and Laws shenanigans made Doffy decide to hold the tournament that particular day, as a trap. It seems highly unlikely that Doffy managed to find the higly particular fruit in the small timeframe between PH and dressrosa, so more likely he's had it for a while, and teased it through his underground network…particularly to agressive countries like Elizaberros or the Funk Bros.
My bet is that Doffy announced a tournament with a prize of a "very powerful Logia DF" and only recently revealed what it is. either that or he held it in his safe (in that little chest) for ~1 year and announced the tournament maybe a week ago at best. (maybe he had a spy/intelligence at FI :ninja: )
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I'm thinking that maybe he has tournaments often for random prizes on short notice, but most prizes aren't that good to get so many people interested. So this time he announced the mera mera which he was holding, to get luffy and obviously plenty of people were interested and came in.
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So Im reading the newest volume, and Kinemon says he can cut ANY flame… what do you guys think of an enemy winning the mera mera and eventually facing Kinemon? Or Kinemons goals eventually pitting him against the SHs, if they possess the mera mera?
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It would be nice if someone other than Luffy took out DD, but of all the Strawhats, Luffy actually makes more narrative sense this time (other than being main character) because he's already challenged DD himself and the others don't seem to have direct beef with him. So it definitely won't be Zoro. I say that if anyone beats DD, it's either Luffy through typical determination and strength, or Law with a trump card he hasn't been able to activate yet. Leaning to Luffy because that's just tradition (albeit a somewhat boring and predictable one, why did Jimbe not take Hody again?).
I would love to see Zoro finishing off Doflamingo, and then leaving Luffy to shine in Kaidou arc but.. the chances are so low it is probably going to be Luffy :getlost:
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Certainly not, If it only took two years for Zoro to achieve his dream, then it is by all means a cheap one. Don't tell me you're one of those idiots who underestimate Zoro? I for one wouldn't be surprised is he's the one to take out DD or hold off Fuji(keep him busy) for a while.
You seriously think someone other than Luffy is taking the boss? And particularly Zoro who probably don't care much about the guy?
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With Zoro and Franky (and the powerful dwarves) going wild? I doubt so :)
He's right, we're talking about an underground factory that might be 2 to 3 layers deep in the ground (Impel Down style level 2 to 3), so the people above won't know shit
@peeko:lol come to think of it, is this forshadowing?! :ninja:.
I was thinking the same thing and now more that we know that Conqueror's Haki is Luffy's strongest area, so I'll be expecting an earthquake within the story
You seriously think someone other than Luffy is taking the boss? And particularly Zoro who probably don't care much about the guy?
That's insane but everyone will have to fight strong opponents in this arc and some of those fighter might very well end up in Impel Down
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@Master:
I would love to see Zoro finishing off Doflamingo, and then leaving Luffy to shine in Kaidou arc but.. the chances are so low it is probably going to be Luffy :getlost:
I agree about the chances are low, though now that I think about it having DD's fruit being revealed to be string based so that Zoro can cut it via that "rhythm of all things" stuff would be awesome. Not gonna happen though.
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So Im reading the newest volume, and Kinemon says he can cut ANY flame… what do you guys think of an enemy winning the mera mera and eventually facing Kinemon? Or Kinemons goals eventually pitting him against the SHs, if they possess the mera mera?
This is actually … a really great thought. I don't think it's going to happen, but a great idea! It would certainly be interesting, in the Haki-filled world we now live in, to see non-Haki users having to take on Logias.
I agree about the chances are low, though now that I think about it having DD's fruit being revealed to be string based so that Zoro can cut it via that "rhythm of all things" stuff would be awesome. Not gonna happen though.
Yeah I think Zoro versus Puppet Law would be awesome too.
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@The:
It seems highly unlikely that Doffy managed to find that particular fruit in the small timeframe between PH and Dressrosa, so more likely he's had it for a while, and teased it through his underground network…particularly to aggressive countries like Elizaberros or the Funk Bros.
I've always assumed that due to his relationship with Caesar he knows how a Devil Fruit is reborn, and that is why he has Ace's, he just acquired it after the War. I'm not going to go as far as to say it's as simple as having a bag of apples with you when a Devil Fruit user dies, but Smiley's death at least shows us there is a way to recover a fruit. Anyway, it makes sense that he could have teased it for a while and just made the short term announcement, but it's still highly coincidental that so many powerful characters could make it in such a short time frame. I wouldn't mind more explanation at some point.
So I'm reading the newest volume, and Kinemon says he can cut ANY flame… what do you guys think of an enemy winning the mera mera and eventually facing Kinemon? Or Kinemons goals eventually pitting him against the SHs, if they possess the mera mera?
I highly doubt both. Zoro was definitely interested in his foxfire techniques, but for now I'm just taking that as world building (for Wano). Maybe Zoro will copy some of their techniques, maybe not, but it shows that even Zoro who was trained by Mihawk is seeing sword techniques he didn't know existed, and of course they come from Wano.
Don't tell me you're one of those idiots who underestimate Zoro? I for one wouldn't be surprised is he's the one to take out DD or hold off Fuji (keep him busy) for a while.
Probably not a good place to start, taking his phrasing and firing back with it. That aside, Law is obviously weaker than Doffy, though to be fair he's trapped between him and an Admiral. Still, I think the readers are meant to see it that way. Luffy's had special and concentrated growth, so he should be above Law in terms of power. It would make more sense to assume that Zoro is on the same level as Law, and rather than versus arguments I'd look at the plot and say it's not Doflamingo's time yet. Regardless of where Luffy stands against Doffy now, they most likely won't fight here and now.
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I know I haven't logged in for a while and I'm a bit late for the party, but the "Is Rebecca weak?"-discussion kinda got stuck in my head, so I thought I'll leave my thoughts here before the next chapter comes XD
I think that Rebecca will indeed be "weak" (compared to most of the Strawhats). Loosing to Luffy really is no shame, but loosing to him in a matter of seconds, with him using only one "attack" while both of his hands are occupied is a shame. However, it's interesting how Rebecca clearly states that she doesn't want to be protected anymore. I'm curious how this'll develop (even though we can be pretty sure that her plan to fight for herself will fail more or less and Luffy has to save the day).
As much as I love One Piece, and I love it dearly, it's not above all doubt. If you ask me, its' depiction and treatment of female characters is its' biggest flaw (and I'm not just talking about the size of boobs). Of course, as a shonen manga, so it's supposed to appeal to male readers. Still, I think the story could be even greater if Oda could improve in that case. Looking back on the plot so far, One Piece really has quite a big share of "Women in refridgerator"-moments.
So I doubt Rebecca will be any different. It's a common problem even in american comics. The artists often simply don't know any other way to develop female characters than the "fridge"-way. Letting them develop like male characters usually rubs them off as wrong. And in the Japanese society, this problem might be a little worse.
Phew, this got a little deeper than I intended to, but I guess it's something I've wanted off my chest. XD
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I'd look at the plot and say it's not Doflamingo's time yet. Regardless of where Luffy stands against Doffy now, they most likely won't fight here and now.
the only problem is that we are at DD island and the only way the SH will leave the island is if they liberate it. it might be a bit too early to fight him here and now but the only way for DD to flee the island without clashing with the SHs and losing is if the marines turn on him something highly unlikely at this point but you never know what sakazuki will do since we know that he went to have a chat with the higher ups.
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The only problem is that […] for Doffy to flee the island without clashing with the crew and losing is if the Marines turn on him, something highly unlikely at this point.
It's not highly unlikely, and it's certainly not the only way. The direction of this saga is definitely a little confusing, given we have two plot threads to resolve that are each connected to a different Emperor, but at least in Doffy's case his future is tied to Kaido. That's the real reason for being on Dressrosa in teh first place, and a major goal for the alliance with Law; destroy the factories, capture Caesar, and Doffy gets a target on his back from Kaido. Doflamingo can't stick around after that, he'd be a sitting duck. And that's assuming things don't completely unravel for him with the Marines.
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Seriously I don't understand how people think Dofla won't be dealt with in this arc, I mean Luffy been getting hyped up since forever nobody has been any challenge for him and I don't see anyone on Dressrosa pushing Luffy to full limit except Fujitora and Dofla. So if Luffy won't fight Dofla this arc then that means another long ass arc without Luffy fighting full strength which I don't see happening..
Luffy been oneshot people since he entered Dressrosa, then a 500mil bounty old geezer wasn't even a match for him, now please explain to me how someone like Diamentai be able to be a challenge to Luffy?
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@Monkey:
And Luffy is probably somewhere near lower Warlord level by now, like around Jimbei. And certainly around if not above Law.
…And yet Luffy took out two warlords pre-timeskip. Luffy around Law? Don't make me laugh.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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If you think Dofla will get beaten down here, you're underestimating Dofla.
Also, like others said, at the moment Dofla is just an obstacle on the road to Kaido, while it's clear that Dofla is something much more in the story.
Oda wouldn't have pulled all the stuff about the relation with the nobles for a character that would have gone down so fast.
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…And yet Luffy took out two warlords pre-timeskip. Luffy around Law? Don't make me laugh.
Luffy beating Crocodile was extremely circumstantial since he lost twice in situations where he really should've died, and even the time when he won he still would've been the ultimate loser if Robin didn't give him the antidote to Croc's poison. Luffy was definitely below Croc's level, he won through determination, learning to counter Croc's strengths, and putting himself in situations that really should've killed him. And Moria must have been far below the level that earned him the title, considering the Marines ditched him after Marineford for being too weak. In other words, Moria was probably below the level of a typical shichibukai when he lost
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No power level talk here, but the lower shichibukia level statement just funny.
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Luffy beating Crocodile was extremely circumstantial since he lost twice in situations where he really should've died, and even the time when he won he still would've been the ultimate loser if Robin didn't give him the antidote to Croc's poison. Luffy was definitely below Croc's level, he won through determination, learning to counter Croc's strengths, and putting himself in situations that really should've killed him. And Moria must have been far below the level that earned him the title, considering the Marines ditched him after Marineford for being too weak. In other words, Moria was probably below the level of a typical shichibukai when he lost
I don't care how it happen. He defeated Croc. End of story. Have you taken time to think that the World Government ditched Moria because he lost to Luffy? The level that got Moria the title was he was once a pirate that stood up to Kaidou, no evidence that his fighting ability dropped. What da hell is a Shichibukai Level anyways? Buggy is a Shichibukai.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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I don't care how it happen. He defeated Croc. End of story. Have you taken time to think that the World Government ditched Moria because he lost to Luffy? The level that got Moria the title was he was once a pirate that stood up to Kaidou, no evidence that his fighting ability dropped. What da hell is a Shichibukai Level anyways? Buggy is a Shichibukai.
Losing to one guy shouldn't be enough to make him lose the position, as evidenced by the fact that they were initially going to keep him on and just keep the incident quiet. The WG care more about the reputation a Warlord has then actual power, which is why buggy could get in. That said, while they may have been afraid of his defeat to Luffy becoming known, they shou8ldn't have gotten rid of him so quickly over just that. So I have to assume his performance in the war played a huge part, as well as a decrease in his general reputation. And no, it isn't as simple as Luffy beat Crocodile. Just because you can win 1 out of three matches with a guy doesn't mean you're better, since circumstances will always play a major part in a fight. Luffy beat Crocodile in such a way where he SHOULD HAVE DIED, and only survived due to Robin's help. And he only managed this because of his previous matches, and because of his determination. Hunter x Hunter has an explanation that is pretty applicable:Even if A is objectively better than B, depending on circumstances like environment, condition, and matchup, it's possible for B to beat A some of the time. Even if A will win 9/10 times, B will still win that one other time
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Caesar beat Luffy once. Does that mean that at that point in time, Caesar was stronger than Luffy, or does it just mean he had favorable circumstances and a good trick?
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On the last battle between Crocodile and Luffy, Crocodile did just hit Luffy one time, while Luffy mashed his head like 7 or 8 times. Just saying.
In fact, the chapter where Luffy defeats Crocodile is called "Exceeding the oponent".
Btw, isn't this the chapter 720 topic? how have we ended speaking about this?
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On the last battle between Crocodile and Luffy, Crocodile did just hit Luffy one time, while Luffy mashed his head like 7 or 8 times. Just saying.
In fact, the chapter where Luffy defeats Crocodile is called "Exceeding the oponent".
Btw, isn't this the chapter 720 topic? how have we ended speaking about this?
Sorry to derail topic. It's because someone said something like "Luffy is in lower Shichibukai level now". I have no idea what that means. It's a meaningless debate anyway, if people still don't know Luffy's strength after 720 chapters.
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What da hell is a Shichibukai Level anyways? Buggy is a Shichibukai.
Although there are obviously no power levels in One Piece, it is generally expected of the Shichibukiai for them to be strong enough to be able to easily defeat lesser pirate crews like at Marineford, to handle stronger pirate crews' elites.
Of course, the WG thinks Buggy is a secretly powerful super-badass, hence why he is now in the group.
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Lower shichibukai seems about right. In the sense that his casually applicable strength is about that level
With situational, and emotional factors he could go beyond that, just like he did with Croc
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…And yet Luffy took out two warlords pre-timeskip. Luffy around Law? Don't make me laugh.
Luffy took out Crocodile through great pains and two completely lucky survivals that would have killed him otherwise.
And Gecko Moria? ahahaha, Luffy wounded the crap out of him and took out his super weapon not on his own power whatsoever, but on the 100 shadows power. After that the wounded Moria overloaded his own self with too many shadows, and then had a HUGE TOWER fall on him to defeat him.
Saying it like Luffy took them down mano a mano is bullshit.
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I don't care how it happen. He defeated Croc. End of story. Have you taken time to think that the World Government ditched Moria because he lost to Luffy? The level that got Moria the title was he was once a pirate that stood up to Kaidou, no evidence that his fighting ability dropped. What da hell is a Shichibukai Level anyways? Buggy is a Shichibukai.
Just thought I'd point out that Moria didn't 'stand up to Kaido' so much as get smushed by Kaido.
