Chapter 582: "Luffy and Ace" Discussion Thread
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Dadan is Moria's big mom.
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its clear dadan it's the mother of diamond joz….they have the same head!!
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Moria isn't dead. He is now fodder and gay
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6391/52351211.png
Hopefully the Ap-girls don't draw some Sanji vs. Moria pics :sick::ninja:
Not that I like the idea, but I'm just so tempted right now since you asked Too bad I can't draw.
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Not that I like the idea, but I'm just so tempted right now since you asked Too bad I can't draw.
:shocked:Please. Noooooooooo:shocked:
I'm really happy that you can't draw.
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Well at least we know that Dadan is dissapointment really. All these years and this. Oi oi… but yes, they were rivals, enemies at the begining. How unique. Oi oi...
Crying all out and those three steps of sadness are rrreally greatly done. Not many can do that, only the best. Kid Luffy is cute, Ace otherwise looks like... yeah, just small ace. Grap is evil man, rreally.
Overall, good and bad chapter combined. Not waiting next next week in that much of care. Shame.
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@Thousand:
People who cry TEND to look ugly. It's beautifully realistic.
Then hopefully no one will complain about that crying girl from Tate's episode anymore.
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I wonder if the flashback will mention Luffy's real mom in any way.
I hope so, especially since the flashback is as good a time as any to mention it.
Or we can continue to speculate that Dragon is able to reproduce asexually. That work's too. -
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I hope so, especially since the flashback is as good a time as any to mention it.
Or we can continue to speculate that Dragon is able to reproduce asexually. That work's too.And its hot. <3 ;)
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And its hot. <3 ;)
And it explains this scene:
Dragon doesn't want Iva to know that he is really an asexual alien that plants a honing device in each of his spawn! -
Then hopefully no one will complain about that crying girl from Tate's episode anymore.
I said ugly not constipated.
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Well at least we know that Dadan is dissapointment really.
Actually it was a surprise, in a good way, to me. Who would think that the one who trained Luffy and Ace is a woman? And what good it is if Dadan is a guy?
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@Thousand:
I said ugly not constipated.
Eh? What episode?
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Eh? What episode?
420. Basically a little girl is driven to tears (in a very unpretty manner), and Lion-chan constantly uses that one screenshot to harp over how ugly and awful animation director Naoki Tate's artstyle is. Most people tend to ignore him on that.
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420. Basically a little girl is driven to tears (in a very unpretty manner), and Lion-chan constantly uses that one screenshot to harp over how ugly and awful animation director Naoki Tate's artstyle is. Most people tend to ignore him on that.
Ah, I see.
Euh…getting back on topic...
Well, actually, that's a bit difficult. It's a pretty straightforward chapter. Though I do love how it's Jinbei that's able to calm him down. Sort of. -
I wonder if the flashback will mention Luffy's real mom in any way.
I don't think so. I think Luffy's mom will be mentioned when Dragon and Luffy meet. Since Luffy's mom is connected to Dragon (obviously), we'll probably learn about her then. Although I wouldn't complain if we learned of her now, I just don't think it will happen.
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Jimbei's reaction was perhaps more telling.
Yeah, I can only imagine how bad Jimbei feels for Luffy. Seriously, the guy was ballsy enough to break into Impel Down and fight against Marine HQ's strongest forces to rescue Ace, only to see Ace die right in front of him! Jimbei is definitely heartbroken to see Luffy suffer after such a horrible turn-of-events.
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Yeah, I can only imagine how bad Jimbei feels for Luffy. Seriously, the guy was ballsy enough to break into Impel Down and fight against Marine HQ's strongest forces to rescue Ace, only to see Ace die right in front of him! Jimbei is definintely heartbroken to see Luffy suffer after such a horrible turn-of-events.
Definately agree with you there.
And it was a great idea for flashblacks….instead of just Luffy...crying...
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Yeah, I can only imagine how bad Jimbei feels for Luffy. Seriously, the guy was ballsy enough to break into Impel Down and fight against Marine HQ's strongest forces to rescue Ace, only to see Ace die right in front of him! Jimbei is definintely heartbroken to see Luffy suffer after such a horrible turn-of-events.
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Even though this little panel is so sad, I really, really like it. He's really struggling to hold back the tears as he watches Luffy go through his inner turmoil. -
For me it was a fair chapter, not specially awesome, but thrilling anyway.
As for Jimbei joining… hmmm I think the crew really needs another woman rather than a fishman. Furthermore, Jimbei is right now several times stronger than Luffy, Hancock is stronger too, so I bet my life savings on a woman from Amazon Lily (Marguerite) or Perona... The crew really needs another girl, an so do the ero-fans out there...
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Nothing astounding, nothing special but this chapter was really handled well. Can't be done better.
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@The:
Nothing astounding, nothing special but this chapter was really handled well. Can't be done better.
Adding Moria would make this chapter a lot better.
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Oh brother…shouldn't moria be dead by now?
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Theres proof that Moria won't die: Jimbei never said he'd give his life for him.
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http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/LauraRiddle/Picture1-2.png
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Even though this little panel is so sad, I really, really like it. He's really struggling to hold back the tears as he watches Luffy go through his inner turmoil.Its kind of funny but out-of-context, it kind of looks like Jinbei is looking with disgust. Its like, "Aw, dude, seriously?".
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Jimbei's mouth is a triangle. :<
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I bet we ll see Luffy talking about Shanks to Ace and how great pirates are…
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I don't think it's physically possible for Jinbei to smile.
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@Cyan:
I don't think it's physically possible for Jinbei to smile.
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Aww dang it, no Buggy/Shanks interaction in this chapter either.
Ah well if nothing else Dadan seems interesting, but i mean even if she seems nice the setup really makes you wonder why Garp entrusted the kids to Dadan. I mean he wanted them to be marines, so it's kinda hard to imagine that he just entrusted them into the hands of a bunch of criminals he knew and just hoped that it all would turn out great:ninja:
Also i'm really warming up to Bepo, poor guy cant get laid until they get to the all female bears island.
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I did a second more attentive read-through of the chapter, and noticed this:
Disregarding her speech quirk, she says it's a.. nuance? Eh? I'm guessing it is supposed to be "nuisance" (/annoyance).
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Probably they meant "nyusance".
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Also i'm really warming up to Bepo, poor guy cant get laid until they get to the all female bears island.
There was a pandawoman sighting in Amazon Lily arc.
Oh, is it just me, or does it look like after the flashback, Luffy will tell Jimbei: "I want to be strong. Teach me how to beat 'them'!"
Jimbei looks like the perfect sensei
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There was a pandawoman sighting in Amazon Lily arc.
You think Bepo is gonna settle for any ol' transvestite bear?
He's gonna be the bear who works under that guy who saved that guy who went on to become pirate king's life!
He could score way hotter bear tail than that:ninja:
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There was a pandawoman sighting in Amazon Lily arc.
Oh, is it just me, or does it look like after the flashback, Luffy will tell Jimbei: "I want to be strong. Teach me how to beat 'them'!"
Jimbei looks like the perfect sensei
It seems that Jinbei doesn't possess Haki, according to Akainu's words.
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@Hancock-chan:
freedom I'M sorry if I talked too much here …
No worries, you're fine :)
There was a pandawoman sighting in Amazon Lily arc.
Oh, is it just me, or does it look like after the flashback, Luffy will tell Jimbei: "I want to be strong. Teach me how to beat 'them'!"
Jimbei looks like the perfect sensei
I've been saying something to this effect for a while now. We don't need 10 chapters dedicated to Luffy training. All we need is a scene of Luffy saying he wants to make sure he can protect the people he cares about, and then Jinbei can say that he can show him a few things, but it'll be up to Luffy to find the methods that work best for him. This could also be done via a flashback, if we get another time skip of a few weeks after the probable upcoming flashback.
You think Bepo is gonna settle for any ol' transvestite bear?
He's gonna be the bear who works under that guy who saved that guy who went on to become pirate king's life!
He could score way hotter bear tail than that:ninja:
I liked Bepo from the start just because he was a talking bear who was also a pirate (just like Luffy did), but the more scene time he gets, the more I like him. I'm sure Oda has a special fem-bear planned for Bepo.
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I liked Bepo from the start just because he was a talking bear who was also a pirate (just like Luffy did), but the more scene time he gets, the more I like him. I'm sure Oda has a special fem-bear planned for Bepo.
Obviously there wont be any romance in one piece, but there's nothing romantic about some bear on bear action:ninja:
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So even Garp has an ass backwards sense of justice. Blackmail some bandits to train your kids to become marines instead of using actual marines or WG agents?
Does Oda want us to see Garp from this perspective or did he just not think this through?
Perhaps Garp let them in care of bandits instead of marines because of their fathers (Roger and Dragon). Bandits are outlaws and undercover, the perfect cover for two brats with those relatives.
Think about it, the very moment a marine officer realized the conection between the childs and the criminals, would kill them in no time.
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There was a pandawoman sighting in Amazon Lily arc.
Oh, is it just me, or does it look like after the flashback, Luffy will tell Jimbei: "I want to be strong. Teach me how to beat 'them'!"
Jimbei looks like the perfect sensei
Hell, he LOOKS like my karate sensei! Big belly, speaks very formally, and even frowns like this: :<
Actually, it looks more like this: >: <
Anywho, I'm with freedom and wouldn't want to waste 10 chapters on Luffy training. Maybe if it's hinted at that he's training under Jimbei while finding his nakama, then OK. -
Obviously there wont be any romance in one piece, but there's nothing romantic about some bear on bear action:ninja:
Oh, you mean like this?
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You think Bepo is gonna settle for any ol' transvestite bear?
He's gonna be the bear who works under that guy who saved that guy who went on to become pirate king's life!
He could score way hotter bear tail than that:ninja:
Dammit, your on a roll with the quotables reguarding Bepo today. I can't sig them all, man!
We don't need 10 chapters dedicated to Luffy training. All we need is a scene of Luffy saying he wants to make sure he can protect the people he cares about, and then Jinbei can say that he can show him a few things, but it'll be up to Luffy to find the methods that work best for him.
Luffy learned Soru, gear 2 and gear 3 off camera. It's not Oda's style to show a training arc, just the implication he's about to train. A panel or two of "I need to get better", followed later by the results, will be enough. Ditto for ALL the strawhats, who are getting off camera training arcs at this very moment.
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Sanji meets Iva. Robin meets Dragon. Lucky for Sanji, he will reunit with Robin first.
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@The:
It seems that Jinbei doesn't possess Haki, according to Akainu's words.
I always thought he did because he was able to fight Ace, I am still not quite sure how haki works so there could be another way how he could of fought Ace
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@robbybedfart:
Luffy learned Soru, gear 2 and gear 3 off camera. It's not Oda's style to show a training arc, just the implication he's about to train. A panel or two of "I need to get better", followed later by the results, will be enough. Ditto for ALL the strawhats, who are getting off camera training arcs at this very moment.
also luffy is a genius in fighting man vs. man..
techniques he created he used to bring to perfection in real fights..
there he tests them and even come up with new creations of it (like gigant jet pistole"..i think WHEN we see a training arc(most likely a few panels nothing more) than it will be most likely to learn to control his haki..
a gear 4 or any other new attack will be leanred of screen and brought to perfection in an actual boss fight ^^ -
Sadly no Moria. =(
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So what do you think happened to Inazuma? and Mr. 3, Mr. 1, and Crocodile? and Mr. 2? and Buggy? We never found out where they went, only jimbei, law boa and hancock are together and Ivankov left…
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@Elektrik:
So what do you think happened to Inazuma? and Mr. 3, Mr. 1, and Crocodile? and Mr. 2? and Buggy? We never found out where they went, only jimbei, law boa and hancock are together and Ivankov left…
More important, what happened to Whitebeard pirates and his allies??
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Obviously there wont be any romance in one piece, but there's nothing romantic about some bear on bear action:ninja:
Bepo is the Bibble of One Piece :ninja:
Oh, you mean like this?
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/LauraRiddle/baby_Winnie_the___Bepo_by_RayTezuka.jpgBlasphemer! Bepo is not into that kind of stuff!
@robbybedfart:
Luffy learned Soru, gear 2 and gear 3 off camera. It's not Oda's style to show a training arc, just the implication he's about to train. A panel or two of "I need to get better", followed later by the results, will be enough. Ditto for ALL the strawhats, who are getting off camera training arcs at this very moment.
Yeah, I totally agree. Personally though, I'd like more than a few panels, I like to see the start of the training, just enough to get the idea of what the end result will be :happy:
@Elektrik:
So what do you think happened to Inazuma? and Mr. 3, Mr. 1, and Crocodile? and Mr. 2? and Buggy? We never found out where they went, only jimbei, law boa and hancock are together and Ivankov left…
Inazuma went with Ivankov to Kamabakka Kingdom.
Mr. 3 probably went with Buggy, who probably went with Shanks.
Crocodile probably went off on his own and took Mr. 1 with him.