At this point I'm more interested in what Blackbeard and his crew bounty raises will be after w/e they do (possibly against the marines). As well as Bonney, Sabo, other revolutionary commanders, and Buggy.
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That wouldn't make sense at all if Zoro and Sanji aren't worth more than 1 Billion after this arc.
I don't think Zoro having fought Kaidou will have any incidence in his bounty since there was no witness there. Just dealing the final blow on King that has a slighlty bigger bounty than Queen will be enough to return in the #2 spot in the crew and have Sanji be a bit behind.
The only thing I look forward really is Chopper getting a real bounty. No excuse this time since Drake was there when he turned into his monster form and fought Queen.
Overall, I expect that the bounties will reflect the strenght of the crew more than ever : Luffy > Zoro & Sanji > Jinbe & Yamato > Franky & Robin & Brook > Usopp & Nami & Chopper
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That wouldn't make sense at all if Zoro and Sanji aren't worth more than 1 Billion after this arc.
I don't think Zoro having fought Kaidou will have any incidence in his bounty since there was no witness there. Just dealing the final blow on King that has a slighlty bigger bounty than Queen will be enough to return in the #2 spot in the crew and have Sanji be a bit behind.
The only thing I look forward really is Chopper getting a real bounty. No excuse this time since Drake was there when he turned into his monster form and fought Queen.
Overall, I expect that the bounties will reflect the strenght of the crew more than ever : Luffy > Zoro & Sanji > Jinbe & Yamato > Franky & Robin & Brook > Usopp & Nami & Chopper
Witnesses aren't a problem since every fight in Onigashima should be monitored by CP-0, including Big Mom & Kaido's.
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I agree with the notion of Luffy doubling his current bounty. Something around 3 billion sounds about right.
Yes, it's bigger than Blackbeard's current bounty but I'm sure his bouty will also go up in the future after he raids some important place.Kidd and Law will also surpass the billion mark since they're captains. Maybe something close to the 2 billion mark without breaking it or at least around Luffy's current 1,5 billion.
Luffy's an emperor now so his underlings need to get on the same level as the other emperor's underlings.
Zoro's bounty will be 1,2 billion, mirrowing his second bounty of 120 million. Leaving him room to grow to 3,2 billion by the end of the series.
It's a shame we don't know Rayleigh's bounty yet, to make a comparison.Sanji will either double our triple his current bounty of 333 million, that way he gets 666 million or 999 million.
A way to show he has embraced some of his Germa side, he's already using the suit. 999 million would be great because he'd be so close to breaking the billion mark but falling short and Zoro would tease him so much for it.Jimbe will double his 438 million.
876 million, because he's a great warrior but he just now joined the crew. It would seem weird to me if he just broke the original monster trio dynamic as soon as he joined.Not sure about Usopp, I don't recall us having the bounties of other snipers like Van Auger or Yasopp to compare.
But maybe his bounty will double? Either that or he gets a round 500 million. I like the theory that he will be the main responsible for the defeat of the Numbers, since one of the stories he told Kaya was that he defeated 10 giants and the Numbers seem to tower over most people whenever they appear. I don't think he will be fighting giants when they get to Elbaf.All the other Strawhats will break the 100 million mark easily. Just double all their bounties.
Except for Chopper, I don't think this is where we part with the lowest bounty ever joke, I don't think we ever will. Chopper's bounty by the end of the series will be something like 1 million.
Feels like a "real" bounty would be a question for the SBS, the same way Oda revealed what Enel's bounty would be if the Marines knew/cared about him.So, the newly revealed Beast Pirates bounties some change things (and also the latest chapter)
I'm still betting on Luffy doubling his current bounty, so 3 billion, only to find out Blackbeard did the same in the meantime and now has 4 billion.
Zoro will get a bit more than what I expected, not only has in the rooftop battle but he recovered and came back to deal with 1, 390 billion King.So 1,5 billion for Zoro easy, and he'll double it by the end of the series.
Sanji is also getting to fight a Calamity after all so he'll get a bigger bounty than I thought.
His first bounty was 77 million, so how about a 1,4 14 billion? Bigger than Queen but lower than King.I'll keep my bet on Jimbe doubling his bounty of 438 million to 876 million.
His oponnent was "only" 546 million, but Jinbe absolutly dominated that fight and also learned some classified intel doing it.For the rest of the Strawhats I really don't know, in a sense they could all break the 500 millions mark. Robin and Franky took care of enemies in the range of 400 million.
Nami did too, and she's now carrying a piece of Big Mom's soul, but I'm not sure how much of that story the rest of the world undertood, since now Usopp is taking credit for Ulti and Page 1 while boasting about his conqueror's haki. And both of them can still pull a late game bluff to delay some other players from interfering with the rooftop battle.
Brook took care of a Number easily and still has energy to spare so I see him pulling a second stunt before the raid is over.
And Chopper will finally get a serious bounty. CP0 saw him as a doctor, and now may even mistake him as a mink, and then he transformed (like a mink under the full moon) and slapped Queen. They may even connect the dots to some some reports of a monster tearing down part of the Tower of Justice in Ennies Lobby and retroactively count that as a crime.
Yamato (yes, tht's my pick), not sure yet. Around Jinbe for sure, but a bit higher near the Billion? A bit lower since there's barely any info on him for the WG to judge him?
These will most likely be their penultimate bounties, after this it's the endgame bounties and the Straw Hats are a small crew, there's no fodder, they're all big players.
Dream big, people!!!And now I'd also say Kidd and Law will get a bigger bounty than I thought.
After the roof top battle and now against Big Mom, thye can easily break the 2 billion mark, dividing BM's bounty in two, while still keeping their bounties ahead of Zoro.
Killer will also break the billion mark. Rooftop -> beating supernova captain -> maybe small bonus action before the end. Still below Zoro.
Drake 500 millions, maybe more, but lower than Jinbe.Now, what I wonder is: could Hawkins and Apoo escape the final capture and run away from Wano while getting their bounties raised just for the mess they helped create?
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Luffy - 3 Billion
Zoro - 960 Million
Sanji - 780 Million
Jinbe - 588 Million
Yamato - 550 Million
Usopp - 500 Million
Robin - 330 Million
Franky - 294 Million
Brook - 283 Million
Nami - 266 Million
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Sanji is also getting to fight a Calamity after all so he'll get a bigger bounty than I thought.
His first bounty was 77 million, so how about a 1,4 14 billion? Bigger than Queen but lower than King.1.4 billion is above King, King is 1.39 billion.
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1.4 billion is above King, King is 1.39 billion.
You're absolutly right.
I think I focused on the second part of the bounty. King's XX90 against Sanji's XX14.So I guess maybe Sanji does get a bigger bounty than King. I guess they can count this battle as a 2v2, even if it's mainly 1v1.
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I think it'll go something like this:
Luffy 3billion
I think his bounty will double, plus it goes with the trend of 30m -> 300m-> 3000m
zoro : 1.4-1.6 B
I'm not sure but i think he'll be within this range for 2 reasons. it'll be higher than kings and I feel like zoro's bounty might end up higher than luffy's 1.5 like when zoro got 120 from when luffy upgraded from 100.
Sanji: 1.33 - 1.5B
A direct billion minimum upgrade. however i feel like it'll be higher than that but lower than luffy's 1.5yamato (when she joins :-)): 0-1 billion (special case of getting the exact bounty as oden)
Because she's never left wano I feel like she definitely don't have a bounty. so she might actually leave wano with a 0 bounty. however if cp0 realize she's joining strawhats crew and that she's kaido's daughter than a blanket 1 billion. i doubt it'll be higher but I wouldnt be surprised either way.Jinbei: 643-868
Bounty will double no special reason. That or a 200M increase.robin/franky: 300-500
I dont think they'll get such high raises. however i dont have much justification since they both beat ppl with 480 and 472. As for the others I do feel justified.Brook: 183M Generic 100m
nami: 166M Generic 100m
While nami landed the final blow on Ulti, ussop claimed credit and the fight was all over. Brook hasn't done "much" so a generic increaseUsop: 500M
The declaration of Haki will be another god ussop moment for him. I also dont think anyone else will surpass his bounty who already isn't higher (besides yamato) like luffy, zoro, sanji, jinbei.chopper: a joke
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A part of me feels like besides the top 5 fighters (jinbei, yamato, luffy, zoro, sanji) that the crew won't go up that much They'll hover somewhere around 200-400. Daifugo and Oven are my reasons why. They're old, strong and seemed like main fighters but also had low bounties (300M). But then you have Snack, Perospero, Tomago and Pekoms who all have higher bounties making the big mom crew feel a little more spread. But then even with Kaido's crew the main fighters of the tobiroppo we still have Hawkins and apoo with higher bounties than page 1. In their defense, they were once captains. And if I use that logic, then tomago and pekoms and even bege were all outside ppl who may have gotten their bounties higher before joining big mom.
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Okay I will try it out. As I believe this is the before last bounty raise for the crew; I think that we will have significant raises:
Luffy: 3 billions, following the 3 multiple pattern
Zoro: 1.5 billion
Sanji: 1,43 billion, slightly under zoro
Jinbe: 734 million; Jinbe is still quite in shape and probably will do something else apart from WsW defeat
Robin: 513 million: defeating BM; however world government could also consider her intel threat and in this case I would go for 666 million
Usopp: 500 million with the COC and 2 tobiroppo defeat rumor, I think Dressrosa bounty was foreshadowing this one;
Franky: 494 million; reproducing the scheme where Franky was envying Usopp bounty
Nami: 366 million; it's getting tricky here but nami should be aknowledged as a major contributor of Ulti's defeat
Brook: 288 million: not much apart the number defeat but still have room to do sth, I think brook will be the one stealing the road poneglyph
Chopper: 200 millions raise for medical knowledge demo and monster point showcaseOther predictions:
Kid - Law: between 1,5 billion and 2,5 billion; between zoro and luffy
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Now I really want Yamato to join and somehow manage to land a "Kozuki Oden" wanted poster with her face on it :ninja:
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Luffy 4.8 billions
Zoro 1.5 billions
Sanji 1.5 billions
Yamato 1.4 billions
Jinbe 1 billion
Robin 800 million
Usopp 500 million
Franky 450 million
Nami 300 million
Brooke 300 milion
Chopper 200 millionCarrot 600 million
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Luffy 4.8 billions
Zoro 1.5 billions
Sanji 1.5 billions
Yamato 1.4 billions
Jinbe 1 billion
Robin 800 million
Usopp 500 million
Franky 450 million
Nami 300 million
Brooke 300 milion
Chopper 200 millionCarrot 600 million
Interesting you included Carrot - she's in a tricky spot as no one's seen her fighting nor any given significant exposure on-panel for her fights. If anything, I'd like Neko and Inu to be highlighted. Their sulong form ripped Jack apart.
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We don't usually get too much banter, gossip or dialogue between characters and their bounties but when it does come I relish the moments!
We got a few snippets of the world getting load of Luffy's 1.5 billion but we didn't get anything close to the decks of the world right? Just the Emperors and Dragon commenting? Last major world wide insight was the Dressrosa update.
If it's just cover stories we'll only get so much so I hope we get a chapter or 2 or 3 on just the home town and important ally responses.
Luffy - 3,500,000,000B
Dragon, Garp, Woop Slap, Sabo, locals of Wind Mill village? Man I want to know what Krieg or Arlong thinks about it!Zoro - 1,500,000,000B
Zoro's teacher, teacher's kids, the weapon seller from Logue Town! What does Mihawk, Kaku and Daz Bones think! I know I'm asking a lot but I can dream!Sanji - 1,450,000,000B
I want to see Zeff look at that bounty and compare it to his own! Patty, Carne, Judge and the siblings! Between Zoro and Sanji I wonder if from this point on Oda is going to keep their numbers relatively close in the way they are now. Much like the way King and Queen's are now."Generic" 400million increases. I like that I idea King Cannon. Jinbei - 838,000,000B Maybe a bit high after taking out a 546million Berry bounty but what ever Jinbe is the king! Oh how I'd love to get just one thought bubble from Arlong or any of his old officers about Jinbe joining the Straw Hats.
Yamato - 600,000,000B
I feel like an epithet "Son of an Emperor" or "Demon Prince" or "Demon Princes" would earn her quite a bit. If it looks like Yamato influences some major portion of the battle maybe I see a bigger raise. Not that I think Jinbei is stronger mind you.Robin - 530,000,000B
Not much to say. She ain't got no friends. Koala and Sabo aint no body.Franky - 495,000,000B
Seems just about right! I'd like to see him arguing about not breaking the 500million mark yet."Generic" 300million increases.
Usopp - 500,000,000B
That Doflamingo foreshadow! Plus the double lie Flying 6 defeat! That's gotta count toward something! More than anything I would love to see how Kuro reacts!Brook - $383,000,000B Laboon and Crocus, meh.
Nami - 366,000,000B Arlong, Genzo, I want them to be stunned at such an increase!
"Generic" - 100million increase.
Chopper - 100,000,000B
I feel like at the very least someone is going to notice what Chopper really is!I'm hoping islands start putting up the Straw Hat flag everywhere. I want randos to imagine the crew as big scary monsters and such.
I love new bounty chapters.
I wonder if we'd get a few epithet changes? Happened with Usopp and Brook right? Could happen with anyone.
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We don't usually get too much banter, gossip or dialogue between characters and their bounties but when it does come I relish the moments!
We got a few snippets of the world getting load of Luffy's 1.5 billion but we didn't get anything close to the decks of the world right? Just the Emperors and Dragon commenting? Last major world wide insight was the Dressrosa update.
If it's just cover stories we'll only get so much so I hope we get a chapter or 2 or 3 on just the home town and important ally responses.
Luffy - 3,500,000,000B
Dragon, Garp, Woop Slap, Sabo, locals of Wind Mill village? Man I want to know what Krieg or Arlong thinks about it!Zoro - 1,500,000,000B
Zoro's teacher, teacher's kids, the weapon seller from Logue Town! What does Mihawk, Kaku and Daz Bones think! I know I'm asking a lot but I can dream!Sanji - 1,450,000,000B
I want to see Zeff look at that bounty and compare it to his own! Patty, Carne, Judge and the siblings! Between Zoro and Sanji I wonder if from this point on Oda is going to keep their numbers relatively close in the way they are now. Much like the way King and Queen's are now."Generic" 400million increases. I like that I idea King Cannon. Jinbei - 838,000,000B Maybe a bit high after taking out a 546million Berry bounty but what ever Jinbe is the king! Oh how I'd love to get just one thought bubble from Arlong or any of his old officers about Jinbe joining the Straw Hats.
Yamato - 600,000,000B
I feel like an epithet "Son of an Emperor" or "Demon Prince" or "Demon Princes" would earn her quite a bit. If it looks like Yamato influences some major portion of the battle maybe I see a bigger raise. Not that I think Jinbei is stronger mind you.Robin - 530,000,000B
Not much to say. She ain't got no friends. Koala and Sabo aint no body.Franky - 495,000,000B
Seems just about right! I'd like to see him arguing about not breaking the 500million mark yet."Generic" 300million increases.
Usopp - 500,000,000B
That Doflamingo foreshadow! Plus the double lie Flying 6 defeat! That's gotta count toward something! More than anything I would love to see how Kuro reacts!Brook - $383,000,000B Laboon and Crocus, meh.
Nami - 366,000,000B Arlong, Genzo, I want them to be stunned at such an increase!
"Generic" - 100million increase.
Chopper - 100,000,000B
I feel like at the very least someone is going to notice what Chopper really is!I'm hoping islands start putting up the Straw Hat flag everywhere. I want randos to imagine the crew as big scary monsters and such.
I love new bounty chapters.
I wonder if we'd get a few epithet changes? Happened with Usopp and Brook right? Could happen with anyone.
If there are epithet changes, I’m hoping for something like:
Demon King (Maou) Zoro
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People are forgetting about Zoro killing Kaido in their bounty predictions.
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Luffy - 5,000,000,000 Berry
Yamato - 2,300,000,000 Berry
Zoro - 1,500,000,000 Berry
Sanji - 1,400,000,000 Berry
Jinbei - 590,000,000 Berry
Robin - 520,000,000 Berry
Franky - 510,000,000 Berry
Nami - 430,000,000 Berry
Brook - 380,000,000 Berry
Usopp - 310,000,000 Berry
Chopper - 1,000 BerryKid - 2,500,000,000 Berry
Law - 2,000,000,000 Berry
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People are forgetting about Zoro killing Kaido in their bounty predictions.
I'm at the stage where I don't even think Zoro can kill Kaido let alone if he will actually do it.
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I once made a post in this thread, ay back when the fights didn't even begin yet. Back then I thought this:
! I don't think the crew will be quite on Yonkou level after this. They will win because of the alliance, and the other Worst Gen characters will benefit from it as well, so:
! Luffy: 2 billion (+500 million)
Zoro: 820 million (+500 million)
Jinbe: 738 million (+300 million)
Sanji: 730 million (+400 million)
Usopp: 400 million (+200 million)
Robin: 320 million (+200 million)
Franky: 294 million (+200 million)
Brook: 283 million (+200 million)
Nami: 266 million (+200 million)
Chopper: 200 million and 100 bellies (+200 million, no more pet bounty joke)
! The other worst gen characters:
Kid: 1.470 billion (+1 billion, like Luffy in WCI, will be the MVP of the arc)
Law: 1.1 billion (+600 million)
Drake: 1.022 billion (+800 million)
Hawkins: 920 million (+600 million, will betray Kaido)
Bege (if he joins the battle): 850 million (+500 million)
Killer: 600 million (+400 million)
! And, just for fun, former Shichibukai bounties if all of them were to escape:
Mihawk: 1.8 billion (Yonko level as an individual, but no crew or influence to back him up)
Buggy: 1.5 billion (100x original frozen bounty. Former Roger crewmate, must die at any cost)
Weevil: 880 million (+400 million for all the crews he decimated by himself)
Hancock: 800 million (10x original frozen bounty)After all that happened, I'm correcting my prediction:
Luffy: 2.5 billion (+1 billion)
Zoro: 1 billion (+680 million)
Sanji: 1 billion (+670 million)
Jinbe: 838 million (+400 million) (I think he will get another fight yet)
Franky: 494 million (+400 million)
Robin: 420 million (+300 million)
Usopp: 400 million (+200 million) (I think he will still have a fight)
Brook: 383 million (+300 million) (I think he will still have a fight)
Nami: 266 million (+200 million) (I think she will still have a fight)
Chopper: 200 million and 100 bellies (+200 million, no more pet bounty joke, I still think he will get a fight)The other worst gen characters:
Kid: 1.07 billion (+600 million)
Law: 1.05 billion (+550 million)
Killer: 600 million (+400 million)
Drake: No idea.And the Warlords bounties remain as I predicted before:
Mihawk: 1.8 billion (Yonko level as an individual, but no crew or influence to back him up)
Buggy: 1.5 billion (100x original frozen bounty. Former Roger crewmate, must die at any cost)
Weevil: 880 million (+400 million for all the crews he decimated by himself)
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I mildly feel like end of story the weakest Strawhats are meant to be worth around the billion belly each. I mean, Neko, Inu and Shanks who were nothing in yonko and pirateking crew are now fighting against Jack (and one is even an emperor). I know there is Buggy out there, so that's why I'm not certain about this thought
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As for this particular arc. I hope that Brook and Chopper will fight that someone who will arrive in Wano after the big bad villain is defeated
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I mildly feel like end of story the weakest Strawhats are meant to be worth around the billion belly each. I mean, Neko, Inu and Shanks who were nothing in yonko and pirateking crew are now fighting against Jack (and one is even an emperor). I know there is Buggy out there, so that's why I'm not certain about this thought
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As for this particular arc. I hope that Brook and Chopper will fight that someone who will arrive in Wano after the big bad villain is defeated
Wouldn’t be surprised if Chopper got a really high bounty based on what Drake saw Chopper doing to Queen, and that Usopp gets a higher bounty than Sanji like he did back at Dressrosa for being assumed to have been the mastermind in defeating two of the Flying Six, while Sanji is only seen as “support” at most. Haha.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if Chopper got a really high bounty based on what Drake saw Chopper doing to Queen, and that Usopp gets a higher bounty than Sanji like he did back at Dressrosa for being assumed to have been the mastermind in defeating two of the Flying Six, while Sanji is only seen as “support” at most. Haha.
Sanji’s showcase in dressrosa was losing to doflamingo and escaping. For all intents he didn’t do anything and got a generic bump. Sanji is currently fighting an all star worth 1.32 billion berry and you think he’ll just be seen as support?
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Sanji’s showcase in dressrosa was losing to doflamingo and escaping. For all intents he didn’t do anything and got a generic bump. Sanji is currently fighting an all star worth 1.32 billion berry and you think he’ll just be seen as support?
Depends on how much Oda wants to play up a joke. He's played up jokes with Sanji already after all. lol
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Depends on how much Oda wants to play up a joke. He's played up jokes with Sanji already after all. lol
It can be as easy as Drake and CP0 not knowing Sanji had anything to do with the defeat of an all star. Zoro's fight can easily move to anywhere on Onigashima or beyond seeing he is fighting a pteranodon so Zoro's fight might get noticed and Sanji's might not. However I think the joke has gone on long enough now. We are at a stage the SH's should be getting bounties that are more in line with their threat level. The only funny bounty to me would be Ussop getting a massive upgrade again but that is because this joke has only been with us since the end of Dressrosa, which is not that long. The ridiculousness with Sanji's bounties have been with us since the flying fish riders. Ussop proclaiming to have defeated 2 of the flying six and acting like he was using CoC and perhaps still having a role to play makes me think the marines, if they know about all of this stuff, will think his threat level is much higher.
The one 'person' that is in urgent need for a decent upgrade though has to be Chopper. He'll be so happy when that finally happens. And I say "when" and not "if" because at a minimum Drake saw what Chopper's capable of so, depending on how SWORD works, this should have some kind of effect I'd presume.
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When he gets a real bounty, I expect his epithet to change to something opposite of his current joke one. From Cotton Candy Lover to The Monster Doctor ?
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So the guy being watched by everybody on the live floor fighting a current yonko commander already. Who was seen by all defending and attacking a yonkou commander, is portraying feats of strength similar to Marco…. You know what, thats all important but the most important thing is he’s being watched by everyone on the live floor and this is the guy y’all think is gonna be seen as support?
Also what joke are y’all even talking about. He’s gotten a bounty increase every time the crew gets one except alabasta when (guess what) he wasn’t seen by anyone. If it’s the bounty pic then it’s inconsequential cause it’s not a joke about his bounty but his pic. And then the second bounty? 177 higher increase than everyone except ussop luffy and zoro who did shit in dressrosa. And then another bump in whole cake to surpass zoro. So what joke are y’all even talking about???
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So the guy being watched by everybody on the live floor fighting a current yonko commander already. Who was seen by all defending and attacking a yonkou commander, is portraying feats of strength similar to Marco…. You know what, thats all important but the most important thing is he’s being watched by everyone on the live floor and this is the guy y’all think is gonna be seen as support?
Also what joke are y’all even talking about. He’s gotten a bounty increase every time the crew gets one except alabasta when (guess what) he wasn’t seen by anyone. If it’s the bounty pic then it’s inconsequential cause it’s not a joke about his bounty but his pic. And then the second bounty? 177 higher increase than everyone except ussop luffy and zoro who did shit in dressrosa. And then another bump in whole cake to surpass zoro. So what joke are y’all even talking about???
Yeah, seems more like wishful thinking than something that was actually happening. Also the CP0 would have to be extremely incompetent to miss all of this lol.
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It can be as easy as Drake and CP0 not knowing Sanji had anything to do with the defeat of an all star. Zoro's fight can easily move to anywhere on Onigashima or beyond seeing he is fighting a pteranodon so Zoro's fight might get noticed and Sanji's might not. However I think the joke has gone on long enough now. We are at a stage the SH's should be getting bounties that are more in line with their threat level. The only funny bounty to me would be Ussop getting a massive upgrade again but that is because this joke has only been with us since the end of Dressrosa, which is not that long. The ridiculousness with Sanji's bounties have been with us since the flying fish riders. Ussop proclaiming to have defeated 2 of the flying six and acting like he was using CoC and perhaps still having a role to play makes me think the marines, if they know about all of this stuff, will think his threat level is much higher.
The one 'person' that is in urgent need for a decent upgrade though has to be Chopper. He'll be so happy when that finally happens. And I say "when" and not "if" because at a minimum Drake saw what Chopper's capable of so, depending on how SWORD works, this should have some kind of effect I'd presume.
I expect Chopper’s bounty to go beyond 50 million then.
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It can be as easy as Drake and CP0 not knowing Sanji had anything to do with the defeat of an all star. Zoro's fight can easily move to anywhere on Onigashima or beyond seeing he is fighting a pteranodon so Zoro's fight might get noticed and Sanji's might not.
This doesn't make sense.
Everybody currently knows Sanji and Zoro are fighting King and Queen.
Somehow Drake and CP0 don't know Sanji is fighting on the main floor but They do know who Zoro is fighting cuz King might fly somewhere else with him and be seen?
On top of that they'll know Usopp beat two tobi roppo cuz he's walking around claiming he did?
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This doesn't make sense.
Everybody currently knows Sanji and Zoro are fighting King and Queen.
Somehow Drake and CP0 don't know Sanji is fighting on the main floor but They do know who Zoro is fighting cuz King might fly somewhere else with him and be seen?
On top of that they'll know Usopp beat two tobi roppo cuz he's walking around claiming he did?
Well, perhaps I assumed too much in thinking that Oda would joke around with bounties in some way or form with the Wano bounties. I guess those days are over and that Drake, CP0, and eventually the rest of the Marines will know the exact value Sanji and the others very much deserve.
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CP0 are watching everything via Maries, so their info is going to be very accurate.
(Also there was that ominous Mary watching Robin collapse after her fight… something will come out of it)
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Well, perhaps I assumed too much in thinking that Oda would joke around with bounties in some way or form with the Wano bounties. I guess those days are over and that Drake, CP0, and eventually the rest of the Marines will know the exact value Sanji and the others very much deserve.
I mean this is the arc Sanji and Zoro are being called the wings of the pirate king.
Cant really see a joke where Usopp ends up with a higher bounty than Sanji.
I do expect something out of Zoro's and Sanji's new bounties
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II do expect something out of Zoro's and Sanji's new bounties
Well I expect something good from all of their bounties then, not just wings since no part of the Pirate King is worthless after all. :)
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Alright, wittier calculations aside, a possible bounty for Jinbe after Wano, accounting for defeating Who's-Who and being higher than Cracker's bounty:
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Two observations:
- CP0 and Marines are different organizations. We know that they don't share every info they have. CP0 has especially never told the marines that they had deals with Orochi and visited Kaidou in Wano.
- Drake ows the Strawhats his life, and he clearly was charmed by Luffy a little bit (influenced by Koby). Not sure if he would draw them as a dangerous crew when he reports to the marines. Maybe he won't even try to enhance Chopper's bounty because he admires him for saving everyone from the virus, even enemies.
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Luffy - 3 Billion
Zoro - 960 Million
Sanji - 780 Million
Jinbe - 588 Million
Yamato - 550 Million
Usopp - 500 Million
Robin - 330 Million
Franky - 294 Million
Brook - 283 Million
Nami - 266 Million
Chopper - 10I agree with most of this. Only changes I would make are:
-Luffy probably at 2B. He’ll get a 500M increase this time around for basically defeating a yonkou. I think Zoro will be decapitating Kaido. It will be Luffy’s last increase before his final bounty increase to 5.656B.
-Zoro is exactly right because Luffy got to 1.5B by defeating two commanders as well as wreaking havoc on a yonkou’s home turf as well as attempted assassination of BM. So under 1B sounds right if he doesn’t do finishing blow on Kaido. However, if Zoro takes off Kaido’s head like I think he will, then the bounty will be around 1.2-1.5B.
-Usopp probably won’t get a Sugar moment so we’ll just get a $100M bounty to $300M.
-Robin I think will shine at the end of the arc regarding a ponyglyph so I could see her getting up to $750M area.
-Chopper’s gag bounty is currently at 100 so I think he’ll get to 150 if Oda continues the gag. But monster point is out of the bag in CP0’s eyes (I think) so I could see him getting to $100M. This is justified by him being able to heal everyone too. -
Two observations:
- CP0 and Marines are different organizations. We know that they don't share every info they have. CP0 has especially never told the marines that they had deals with Orochi and visited Kaidou in Wano.
- Drake ows the Strawhats his life, and he clearly was charmed by Luffy a little bit (influenced by Koby). Not sure if he would draw them as a dangerous crew when he reports to the marines. Maybe he won't even try to enhance Chopper's bounty because he admires him for saving everyone from the virus, even enemies.
While CP0 may hide sone info from the marines, I see no reason why they’d cover for wanted criminals. We’ve seen in the past that the government isn’t above raising bounties while covering the reasons behind it. Pitting high bounties on every Straw Hat would probably be in the government’s interest.
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While CP0 may hide sone info from the marines, I see no reason why they’d cover for wanted criminals. We’ve seen in the past that the government isn’t above raising bounties while covering the reasons behind it. Pitting high bounties on every Straw Hat would probably be in the government’s interest.
Agreed. They could choose not to tell about Who's Who, their agent gone rogue, and still ask for a bounty raise for Jinbei on par with defeating a CP agent
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Okay, i'm reviving this thread since we probably only has at most three more chapters before the only fight we have left is Kaido vs Luffy. Let's see if anyone wants to change their bounty figures since last time.
SH(including Yamato) Post Want bounties:Luffy:3,500,000,000 I believe Oda will break the tradition of having Luffy with a higher bounty than the person he defeated. I just don't want Luffy to have a higher bounty than Shanks until Luffy becomes the PK.
Zoro:1,550,000,000 Zoro's bounty will be higher than Luffy's previous one, and will be higher than Kings
Sanji: 1,350,000,000 Higher than Queen's bounty
Yamato:950,000,000 I can see Yamato getting an inflated bounty if CP0 knows of Yamato's connection with Kaido plus she has a Mythical Zoan DF.
Jinebei: 850,000,000 I think the mid level and low level SH's(yes including Chopper) may get an inflated bounty because the WG will see Luffy as a new Yonkou).
Robin: 700,000,000 Since Robin will slip through the Cipher Pols' hands again(against CP0 no less) I can see her bounty sky rocketing.
Brook: 666,666,666 Since Brook is a skeleton maybe people will see him as a bad omen.
Franky:590,000,000 Franky's bounty needs to be above Ussop now.
Ussop: 500,000,000 Ussops's joke bounty from Dressrossa. Ussop's final bounty needs to be more than Yassop's IMO, and I can't see Yassop's, Lucky Roux, or Ben Beckman having a bounty below 1 billion
Nami: 316,000,000 If CP0 or someone else realizes Nami now owns one of Big Mom's homies I can see this bounty.
Chopper: 250,000,000: Yes Chopper gets a real bounty. Someone may find out he is the SH's doctor.Non Straw Hats:
Kid: 2,300,000,000
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3.5 Million for Luffy seems right since it would be a +2B increase. This would set up nicely for a subsequent +2.1B increase so Luffy gets his expected 5.600.000.000 bounty by the manga's end.
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I love this topic. Bounties are just the coolest badges of honor that could somewhat give an idea of threat level.
Big Mom - 4,388,000,000.B
Kaido - 4,611,100,000.B3.5 Billion for Luffy does seem like a nice sweet spot. Though a part of me wonders if a flat 4 billion won't be warranted. I think most of us agree that Luffy keeping under the bounties of Lin Lin and Kaido still gives room for growth and the idea that he needed a lot of help to take them down.
Black Beard - 2,247,600,000.B
Shanks - 4,048,900,000.BI look at these bounties and wonder what Oda is going to do with Black Beard to shoot up under our nose again. A good while has passed since Teach's declaration of not letting the Marines have it, what ever that may be. An easy excuse to make sure that Luffy's bounty is never above Teach's again. Then again I think it would be kind of awesome if by the time Teach and Luffy clash for real the Straw Hats have higher bounties than the Black Beards do but things go heavily in the Black Beards favor.
With the ever looming meeting with Shanks I don't see Luffy going beyond his bounty but just on par, give or take a few hundred million.
Jack - 1,000,000,000.B
Queen - 1,320,000,000.B
King - 1,400,000,000.BZoro - 1,500,000,000.B
Sanji - 1,400,000,000.BI'm sure there are some neat puns and references to throw in there, smarter people than me would have to guess on that. Seems like they'd float around this range for a good while. Don't want them getting too close to Luffy just yet.
It's also interesting to me that we were made aware of Jack and Queen's bounty so early in the story and absolutely no mention of the Flying 6 outside of trivia cards. I forget when King's came along and how. I have a feeling Oda wanted us to feel like the Billion Bounty pirates would have been too much for any Straw Hat so they were going to be saved for allied captains. I mean had we learned of Page One's 290 million bounty during his introduction I don't think anyone would have been counting on a Sanji rematch when his bounty was already higher form the outset.
Page One - 290,000,000.B
Ulti - 400,000,000.B
Sasaki - 472,000,000.B
Black Maria - 480,000,000.B
Who's Who - 564,000,000.BUsopp - 500,000,000.B
Nami - 416,000,000.B
Franky - 495,000,000.B
Robin - 580,000,000.B
Jinbe - 650,000,000.BI know it's all head cannon and pseudo science but I like how the Flying 6 match ups lined up with their respective Straw Hats in the exact "strength level" I perceived them as. Though ever since Enies Lobby I perceived Franky as a slightly bigger threat than Robin. I mean that fighting ability wise as well as Ancient Weapon awakening wise. Looking at the match ups and bounty numbers after the fact it just screams Oda is telling me otherwise.
It was also cool seeing Jinbe settle into his place among the crew. Even if we didn't know through Greg, we could all guess that Oda and the team are painfully/gleefully aware of status/power level debates that fans have. Having characters make a bigger deal about seeing Jinbe instead of Sanji seemed to play right into those long fan discussions about Jinbe joining the monster trio. I personally feel like Jinbe sits among the Monster Quartet just fine especially with how well he handled Who's Who. However after all this time fighting at Wano it looks like Oda wants a clear distinction between the King and his wings. I'm cool with that Jinbe still my favorite!
With Usopp I'm still banking on Daflamingo's bounty becoming his official bounty. I just don't know if he's earned that yet.
With Nami I don't know if she should be that high just yet with how Ulti was defeated but maybe to some outsider reporting in, Ulti was defeated by Nami and thats all that needs to be said.
Brook, Chopper, Yamato just don't know yet. Chopper and Yamato have made an impact on the war in very noticeable way that I don't feel Brook has yet. So still trying to figure Brook out the most.
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Will be very interesting in the event Kid and Law get higher bounties than Zoro. lol
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Luffy's bounty doesn't even matter to me anymore. It's gonna explode. I'm more interested in the others to how big they can get by the end of the story
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Will be very interesting in the event Kid and Law get higher bounties than Zoro. lol
That's prretty much inevitable. Beating an Emperor is the biggest pirate feat one can achieve save for reaching Laugh Tale.
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I think Robin's bounty will rise to at least a billion. Luffy will be a fully-fledged emperor after this battle and therefore dangerously close to the One Piece. I don't think the government will have any reason anymore to hide Robin's true threat to them, especially if they find out that the strawhats only need one more road poneglyph.
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So this old thread!
Luffy, Law and Kid at B3,000,000,000 each. Lower than both Kaidou and Big Mom. Reasonably so since it was a huge group effort to take them on.
But the Calamities and Flying 6 more or less went down without such massive team ups. Still expecting Sanji and Zoro to cross the billion mark going above King and Queen and the others beating out their Flying 6 opponents by a few hundred million.
Bepo, Heat, Killer... At least Killer had a go against Kaidou and Big Mom and defeated Hawkings but I don't expect him to get anywhere near what the Calamities had. Well maybe Killer gets close...
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My current expectations:
Post-Wano SH bounties thoughts:
- Zoro, Sanji: 1.2-1.5 billion range each. I hope they’ll tie.
- Jinbe: 600-900 million range
- Robin, Franky: 300-600 million range each.
- End of Chopper’s bounty gag. 100-300 million range
- Nami, Usopp, Brook: token increases (+50 million?)
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i've got luffy's right at least lol
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Don't think anyone expected Luffy, Law and Kid to share the same bounty, although Big Mom + Kaidou led to 8,9 billion, which sorta gave away that the three Captains would end with 9 billion split apart.
Considering Luffy had an increase of 1.5b, I expect the others to have lower, but significant increases.
Zoro: 1.52 billion. His current bounty + 1.2b. Fits the pattern of him having Luffy's previous bounty plus 20mil.
Sanji: 1.33 billion. His current bounty + 1b. Zoro surpasses him due to his involvement in Kaidou's fight. This bounty does allow Sanji to surpass Queen by 10mil at least.
Jinbe: 938 million. His current bounty + 500m. Almost 1b, but not quite there, since he just defeated a Tobiroppo. He does get extra cred for being a Warlord though.
Usopp: 700 million. His current bounty + 500m. Yes, I'm assuming the WG will believe the whole "I beat two Tobiroppo by myself" lie, because it's just like Usopp to be the SH's Buggy.
The rest will likely get flat increases of 250-300 million because we know that's a thing for Emperors, so:
Nami: 316-366m
Robin: 380-430m
Franky: 344-394m
Brook: 333-383mChopper will surpass the million mark, but I'm not sure he will completely escape the pet denomination, so I'm giving him a +3mil increase to make his bounty 3.000.1 mil.