This doesnt even deserve a post in this thread, but i just thought its kinda funny.
As important as Hachi is (or was) zoro in his pre grandline powerlevel was pretty much at 5% when he fought hachi, he was literally on the verge of death while fighting him. He still beat hachi easily.
Hachi is extremely weak while he was a fishman that was admired by many and had a decent position in both the sun pirates and arlongs crew.
It says a lot about how far the crew has gotten, imagine usopp now vs arlong then, he could probably beat him in a fist fight lol.
But i guess the story has to progress this way, or else there would be no feeling of progress.
Notions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads
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Now that we're this deep in Wano, I'm remembering that Moria's fate is unknown at this point in the story. So, I'm thinking, if Kaidou does go down, will Moria even be alive to see the news? Will he enjoy said news, or rage that Luffy has come so far in these years? If he's still alive, will he even be in a place where he can see the news?
I'm not sure what fate Moria deserves at this point. Death, shame, or some combination inbetween?
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Now that we're this deep in Wano, I'm remembering that Moria's fate is unknown at this point in the story. So, I'm thinking, if Kaidou does go down, will Moria even be alive to see the news? Will he enjoy said news, or rage that Luffy has come so far in these years? If he's still alive, will he even be in a place where he can see the news?
I'm not sure what fate Moria deserves at this point. Death, shame, or some combination inbetween?
I think his reappearance in chapter 925 was solely to justify his later involvement with Wano.
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So there are rumors that the upcoming chapter made one of the editors cry. As one post specified(forgot which thread that was) but definitely something to do with Kanjuro. Could it be Yasuie- related? I recall he was the one who held onto his corpse.
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So there are rumors that the upcoming chapter made one of the editors cry. As one post specified(forgot which thread that was) but definitely something to do with Kanjuro. Could it be Yasuie- related? I recall he was the one who held onto his corpse.
Or Kanjuro just draw a fighter that looked like Oden and Kiku cried because he cut him down. :ninja:
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I feel like there's room for Pedro to temporarily come back as a homie, if Big Mom's powers work that way. I only say this, because remember those homies that taunted Pedro before his death? That scenes always bugged me because it put the focus on homies yet it led nowhere. I admit, I'm only suggesting a Pedro comeback because I want that page to actually mean something. Right in the middle of chapter 875, when a strawfaced homie mentions Pedro by name. It's bothered me for…years frankly. What even was that?
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Uh, is that really a "homie"?
Okay, I did a little bit of digging and found out the guy's name is Fructose(viz); 28th son of Big Mom. So yeah, not a "homie".
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Onemoment can finally rest in peace lol.
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Uh, is that really a "homie"?
Okay, I did a little bit of digging and found out the guy's name is Fructose(viz); 28th son of Big Mom. So yeah, not a "homie".
Onemoment can finally rest in peace lol.
That thing was human?! :wassat:
I mean, yes I'm relived, but when and why did Big Mom sleep with a scarecrow? This answers a major question but raises many lesser questions.
But, more importantly I'm out of the Pedro revival camp. Yeah, that was a dumb theory.
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Uh, is that really a "homie"?
Okay, I did a little bit of digging and found out the guy's name is Fructose(viz); 28th son of Big Mom. So yeah, not a "homie".
Isn't his name kato?
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That thing was human?! :wassat:
I mean, yes I'm relived, but when and why did Big Mom sleep with a scarecrow? This answers a major question but raises many lesser questions.
But, more importantly I'm out of the Pedro revival camp. Yeah, that was a dumb theory.
It's alright, you weren't the only one curious about the Pumpkin guy lol, it really did come off as suspicious
It took the anime adapting that chapter to suggest that he was actually a Charlotte member (they added filler confirming the people chasing the Strawhats were all BM's children), then later on we finally got an official look at the entire family lol
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Isn't his name kato?
That means "fruit sugar" doesn't it? Thats how Viz has him on the volume 90 "SBS".
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That thing was human?! :wassat:
I mean, yes I'm relived, but when and why did Big Mom sleep with a scarecrow? This answers a major question but raises many lesser questions.
Even weirder, that guy has 2 brothers (Kanten and Montb) and they don't have pumpkin heads. I have no idea what that guy is supposed to be.
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Couldnt it be a mask?
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Wow, I really have to read this novel in full
In Vol. 2 of One Piece novel A, Thatch claimed that Marshall D. Teach wanted to eat the Suke Suke no Mi, unaware that Teach really wanted the Yami Yami no Mi. However, he was ultimately right to a degree, as the Blackbeard Pirates would go on to steal the Suke Suke no Mi and have one of their members eat it. Vol. 2 of novel A came out five months before Shiryu eating the fruit was revealed to have happened in the manga.
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Wow, I really have to read this novel in full
In Vol. 2 of One Piece novel A, Thatch claimed that Marshall D. Teach wanted to eat the Suke Suke no Mi, unaware that Teach really wanted the Yami Yami no Mi. However, he was ultimately right to a degree, as the Blackbeard Pirates would go on to steal the Suke Suke no Mi and have one of their members eat it. Vol. 2 of novel A came out five months before Shiryu eating the fruit was revealed to have happened in the manga.
that's pretty cool, i think vol 2 is due for next month.
also, it makes sense now why they skipped Ace going to wano, because they would have to omit Yamato from the novel anyway.
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that's pretty cool, i think vol 2 is due for next month.
also, it makes sense now why they skipped Ace going to wano, because they would have to omit Yamato from the novel anyway.
Imagine if Ace would've mentioned meeting a future bewitching ninja during his travels… It wouldn't be spoiling, but it would've been a year before Tama's introduction
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Imagine if Ace would've mentioned meeting a future bewitching ninja during his travels… It wouldn't be spoiling, but it would've been a year before Tama's introduction
has it really been that long since the novel came out? damn
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Just realized King possibly gave Raizo that scar on his forehead. He doesn't have it in 962, 963 or in 969 (right before the battle). In 970, you can see a shadowy figure with King's head shape (or helmet idk) and the wings attacking Raizo and he finally has a wound that goes from his widow's peak to his forehead. From then on, he has the bandage on his head.
In 973, you can see the scar a little bit. I checked 920's flashback and as they appear in front of Toki, Raizo has the scar. I wonder if he was scarred and he added to it to make the moon shape or did King purposely do that to mock their clan.
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So what do people around here think of Big Mom being used as a joke character?
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So what do people around here think of Big Mom being used as a joke character?
There are two guys i really should introduce you to
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Cool detail, I love finding little details like that.
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So what do people around here think of Big Mom being used as a joke character?
I think just about everything that has happened to her has fit her character. In particular, the Olin stuff fulfilled a what-if that was apparent after her flashback (what if Streusen wasn't her main influence in life after adulthood).
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There are two guys i really should introduce you to
Ivotas? Haha I got no idea, but I've recently seen a post by him and remembered him from years ago.
I've become quite disillusioned with OP sadly.I think just about everything that has happened to her has fit her character. In particular, the Olin stuff fulfilled a what-if that was apparent after her flashback (what if Streusen wasn't her main influence in life after adulthood).
That's at least one positive aspect, if you'd like to put it like that, I guess.
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So what do people around here think of Big Mom being used as a joke character?
In this chapther (988) I liked Franky getting a cool entrance. In general? I find fascinating how she's so bad at killing the strawhats. And how someone so empenatrable keeps getting in those bs situations.
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I’ve seen Yasopp talked about as a bad character we’re meant to dislike on the basis of him not only not being there for Usopp, but seemingly not doing anything to help his sick wife. That said, Usopp and Banchina didn’t seem to hold it against him, so I won’t either. Other people can be ready to condemn him all they want, but I’m honestly interested to see what he has to say once he and Usopp meet up again, and eventually confronts the fact that he wasn’t there for him in a way many would interpret as purposeful abandonment. I sense quite a bit of angst and perhaps some self-deprication about him seeing himself as a useless dad and leaves an opportunity there for potential character development whenever it would come around to that.
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Every deadbeat dad has his excuse.
I'm sure Yasopp has a whopper to tell
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Every deadbeat dad has his excuse.
I'm sure Yasopp has a whopper to tell
Like father, like son.
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Blackbeard was the one who outed Buggy to the Marines.
When Buggy was captured the marines appeared to have no idea that he was an apprentice on Roger's ship but by the time he breaks out they managed to find out he was "like a brother" to Shanks.
Teach was at the Headquarters just before he invaded Impel Down. Seems like before he set sail, the Shichibukai were warned to be on their toes 'cause Monkey D. Luffy and some Buggy the Clown were wrecking havoc in the prison. "Buggy, you say? I remember him from my days at Whitebeard's crew…" -
Just consciously realized that Nami doesn’t have the self-inflicted scar anymore by the time she gets her first wanted poster, even though she had it at Reverse Mountain.
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Chopper joined since then, maybe he fixed it up.
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It has bothered me for a long time, but it really is unimportant. Just wanna vent.
How come Shakki and Rayleigh discovered that Luffy went to Amazon Lilly using just some clues while Smoker (the observant marine genius who identified the right Crocodile that had swallowed the key) saw Hancock betray the WG and fight him while declaring that "love is a hurricane", and also run after Luffy at the end of the battle and still not put 2 and 2 together and see that Luffy was helped by her??
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You have to know that Luffy was there to figure out that that's how he got to Impel Down.
And all the stories of Amazon Lily (a notoriously closed off island) and the Kuja warriors (kill any man who sets foot on the island) would make her aiding Luffy sound pretty far-fetched to begin with.
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It has bothered me for a long time, but it really is unimportant. Just wanna vent.
How come Shakki and Rayleigh discovered that Luffy went to Amazon Lilly using just some clues while Smoker (the observant marine genius who identified the right Crocodile that had swallowed the key) saw Hancock betray the WG and fight him while declaring that "love is a hurricane", and also run after Luffy at the end of the battle and still not put 2 and 2 together and see that Luffy was helped by her??
And why did no Marine inteligence service realise that Luffy infiltrated Impel Down right after the unusual request of Hancock to visit Ace?The Smoker is indeed ridiculous but you always say that he did make the connection and make a report but when they showed up Luffy was on that island full of beasts and the government didnt want to spend more energy on chasing Luffy and having to lose another warlord.
For the prison they have no idea Luffy made contact with Handcock and she is know to detest all men. For all they know Blackbeard and Luffy coordinated. Or Buggy was a trojan horse. Or Luffy was sent by his dad to free one of his top officers. Between Blackbeard and Baggy and the giant escape I think they wrote off the whole thing as a giant clusterfuck that is better forgotten instead of investigated.
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A brief preview for the Nico Robin post.
First,
Now reread the scene in the manga.
How are they different from each other?
Also, how do you interpret Nico Robin’s smile in the final panel? Did Toei meet the mark?
“Nico”
To me, Robin seems to still be nervous about what just happened in the manga, whereas the anime goes a bit further and the Straw Hats have cleared her nerves. I don't see much else different worth going into.
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To me, Robin seems to still be nervous about what just happened in the manga, whereas the anime goes a bit further and the Straw Hats have cleared her nerves. I don't see much else different worth going into.
The interesting part here is the filler the anime chose to include, which clearly was based on the director’s interpretation of the scene.
Nico Robin’s initial trembling and heavy breathing upon noticing Aokiji’s presence is gone in the anime. She is more solid and resolute. Robin in the manga is clearly still fearful.
The framing of the conversation between Aokiji and Robin is different. Even upon Aokiji leaving, Nico Robin remains fearful and her breathing stays heavy in the manga. She weakly smiles at Luffy’s joke, but is this a genuine smile or an instance of what Sauro taught her? “To smile when you feel bad.”
I’d argue so.
In fact, Nico Robin doesn’t disclose what happened to her new crew… for what reason? Will she truly not betray them?
The final 1:10 of that anime clip is all filler. It ascribes feelings to Robin that don’t appear in the manga, which consequently change her character. Toei has gotten many things wrong in the past (Zoro cutting steel; Robin’s eye color; Oden; etc) and this is another instance of it.
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How did Toei get Zoro cutting steel wrong? I've never heard of this.
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How did Toei get Zoro cutting steel wrong? I've never heard of this.
It’s in the Apis filler arc pre-Reverse Mountain. If I still recall this correctly, Luffy asks Zoro to cut through some giant steel chains — who promptly responds “there’s nothing I can’t cut!” … as he cuts through steel
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It’s in the Apis filler arc pre-Reverse Mountain. If I still recall this correctly, Luffy asks Zoro to cut through some giant steel chains — who promptly responds “there’s nothing I can’t cut!” … as he cuts through steel
Oh yeah, haven't watched the filler in ages that's pretty funny
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We never see Luffy steal the Gomu Gomu no Mi and the only person serving food was Makino. What if she gave it to Luffy for Shanks?
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My 8 year old daughter is obsessed with One Piece right now. Has been for the last 2 years. She asked how I got into One Piece and it brought so many wonderful memories of Luffy fighting Don Krieg.
It was 2003, I was about 17 or so, still in high school. Up until the end of high school I still watched the Saturday morning cartoon line up but One Piece always looked stupid to me. One day I was so tired I just didn't have the energy to get up, find the remote, or otherwise change the channel manually. The Pirate Rap was always pretty cool to me, had and still does have a good beat to it.
At some point Luffy tried to run at Don Krieg, Krieg threw a bomb and made a huge splash. I thought ok this weird kid is going to have to figure out how to get past the bombs. Before I could blink Luffy ran through the wave! I thought "oh?" Then Krieg pulled out that gun and started blasting away. I thought ok, now the kid needs to figure a way to avoid the gun before he can get close. Luffy kept running with bullets(poison suction cups lol) stuck in his body! I thought "Oh!" Then Luffy stretched his arm running full speed and here came the spiked cape. I thought ok, here we go, now the kid will really need to stop to figure out a new plan to get around the spikes. Typical anime BS, why doesn't he just sock em right through the spikes? Ugh. Luffy socked him right through the spikes! I was like "OHHHHH!!!OHHHH!!!! OHHH!!!"
At that moment I knew there was something special about this Story. Even after the battle I kept wondering how strong was this kid? My cousins and I used to love and laugh at the Power Rangers all day every day. One episode they are walking through missiles and laser fire like they are just leaves in the wind. Next episode the slightest bump happens and everyone and their Zords are doing back flips from the damage lol. I used to question the consistency even in elementary school. Why is the next bad guy always stronger than the last? Or at least perceived that way.
With One Piece I never got that feeling and felt like the power scale always stayed very reasonable and logical. Mostly. After the time skip I could never relate to the need for more struggle. I mean at certain points if a character is fighting a War Lord, Admiral, Vice Admiral, Emperor or Emperor's Commander, then yes there should be some clear resistance. But I love the crew going in more or less prepared for most any obstacle ahead.
Just something that came to mind as I reminisced about days long passed.
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In the Naruto thread we were wondering what Oda would do after One Piece ends, and many of us though he'll likely keep drawing ocasional side stories and sutff. It ocurred to me that he could do mini chapters about off panelled stuff, including many of the fight we don't get to see anymore. It would be cool if that happens.
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If Drake was in the navy the whole time, does that make his place in the Supernova 100 mil+ bounty club null and void?
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If Drake was in the navy the whole time, does that make his place in the Supernova 100 mil+ bounty club null and void?
Also where is he going after this arc? Is he rejoining the Navy? If not where the hell will he go
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I feel Drake joining SWORD was probably because he just didn't want to be a rank and file Marine, meaning he could be forced into doing any atrocities the WG orders. Even after Wano, I expect Drake still be labeled a pirate to the world at large,
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If Drake was in the navy the whole time, does that make his place in the Supernova 100 mil+ bounty club null and void?
Depends on who knows about his pirate life and what the timeline is. Maybe he was a pirate 2 years ago and turned since then?
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Some weird idea here.
Law befriended a marine infiltrated in a pirate organization and found out his secret.
Law and Drake come from the same sea and have a common past event, thought they never met (as far as we know).
Years later, Drake, as a marine, becomes a pirate to infiltrate a pirate organization.
In Sabaody, Law meets Drake and compliments him (sort of).
After Marineford, Law mentions to want the right throne to sit on (later we found out this was the Shichibukai position).
Law became a Shichibukai after the Rocky Port incident.
Cobby was the hero of the Rocky Port incident.
Cobby and Drake know each other. Cobby is Drake's contact in the navy.
Law became a Shichibukai do defeat Doflamingo.
Doflamingo killed Drake's father.
After the fall of Doflamingo, Drake reads the paper and comments about Doflamingo killing his father, but having no feelings about it.
In Wano, when Drake learned of Law's capture, he was immediately shocked by it. Hawkins even comments on his behavior.
Later, Drake frees Law, allowing him to escape.Cobby/Drake/Law stories seem to be intertwined, and there may be more details about their connection than we know so far.
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Then Luffy stretched his arm running full speed and here came the spiked cape. I thought ok, here we go, now the kid will really need to stop to figure out a new plan to get around the spikes. Typical anime BS, why doesn't he just sock em right through the spikes? Ugh. Luffy socked him right through the spikes! I was like "OHHHHH!!!OHHHH!!!! OHHH!!!"
Well… isn't typical anime BS exactly what Luffy did? the fact that anyone would just sock someone right through spikes (and not face any consequences like needing immediate surgery to not amputate the hand).
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Some weird idea here.
Law befriended a marine infiltrated in a pirate organization and found out his secret.
Law and Drake come from the same sea and have a common past event, thought they never met (as far as we know).
Years later, Drake, as a marine, becomes a pirate to infiltrate a pirate organization.
In Sabaody, Law meets Drake and compliments him (sort of).
After Marineford, Law mentions to want the right throne to sit on (later we found out this was the Shichibukai position).
Law became a Shichibukai after the Rocky Port incident.
Cobby was the hero of the Rocky Port incident.
Cobby and Drake know each other. Cobby is Drake's contact in the navy.
Law became a Shichibukai do defeat Doflamingo.
Doflamingo killed Drake's father.
After the fall of Doflamingo, Drake reads the paper and comments about Doflamingo killing his father, but having no feelings about it.
In Wano, when Drake learned of Law's capture, he was immediately shocked by it. Hawkins even comments on his behavior.
Later, Drake frees Law, allowing him to escape.Cobby/Drake/Law stories seem to be intertwined, and there may be more details about their connection than we know so far.
Well, this is actually a popular theory right now, that Law has always been a member of SWORD.
Randy from this forum is the author of the theory.
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Well, this is actually a popular theory right now, that Law has always been a member of SWORD.
Randy from this forum is the author of the theory.
Interesting theory, thought I don't think Law is a SWORD member. I feel like he and Drake may have been working together but not that Law was ever a marine. Law may not even know about Cobby, but maybe Drake pointed Cobby to Rocky Port so he could ensure no civilians were harmed while Law did his thing.