Damore's lawyer said that Google was a hostile work environment for conservatives because sharing that video of a Nazi getting punched in the face was popular on Google's internal forums.
So, yeah.
Damore's lawyer said that Google was a hostile work environment for conservatives because sharing that video of a Nazi getting punched in the face was popular on Google's internal forums.
So, yeah.
I hope he loses, because he's an asshole.
Well, I'm still waiting Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple to pay their taxes. Maybe after that, I'll complain about their do-gooder liberal quotas
Also, it's not because some scientists said something that it means anything.
Apparently James Damore is sueing Google. A few months back he wrote a long memo citing biological reasons Google was having trouble reaching 50/50 gender parity, suggesting ways in which google could make its job offers and overall environment more appealing to women. He was fired after employees at google got outraged and made the memo public. Annoyingly, most of what was written in the paper was backed up by peer reviewed papers… but obviously it didn’t fit the left wing narrative that men and women are mentally identical and equally suited and attracted to the same tasks, irrespective of their gender, so he was lynched by progressive outlets calling him “sexist” and promptly fired.
Ah yes we had this discussion in the senior member discussion area. And the "peer reviewed" citations consisted of largely discredited science pariahs, several of whom have their own pages on the Southern Poverty Law Center website!
So you were saying?
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Damore's lawyer said that Google was a hostile work environment for conservatives because sharing that video of a Nazi getting punched in the face was popular on Google's internal forums.
So, yeah.
Wait, are you telling me that Afro-Samurai has for the twenty fifth time woken up hungover in bed with white supremacist/fascist elements snoring next to him?
No that would be unprecedented and kooky.
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Here's two cool peeps our main man James Damore cited in his thing he wrote that got him fired.
James Damore is basically just fishing for a good payday in the conservative movement. Speaking at CPAC, Fox News contributor, that kind of stuff.
Also for the eight hundredth time I shall howl to the moon with peels of laughter at the idea that being a man makes me some sort of engineer by nature.
I've been humbled by too many women working in engineer, and by my teachers that I have no chance of overtaking (the female ones) to call bullshit on "Women can't code".
More in Venezuela than in Spain, I haven't met a female programmer here that was born here.
Bitch I couldn't put two lego blocks together without them falling apart.
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I've been humbled by too many women working in engineer, and by my teachers that I have no chance of overtaking (the female ones) to call bullshit on "Women can't code".
More in Venezuela than in Spain, I haven't met a female programmer here that was born here.
This for me too, except instead it's every woman to ever walk the earth.
@Monkey:
Ah yes we had this discussion in the senior member discussion area. And the "peer reviewed" citations consisted of largely discredited science pariahs, several of whom have their own pages on the Southern Poverty Law Center website!
Wait, are you telling me that Afro-Samurai has for the twenty fifth time woken up hungover in bed with white supremacist/fascist elements snoring next to him?
No that would be unprecedented and kooky.Here's two cool peeps our main man James Damore cited in his thing he wrote that got him fired.
Well, fair enough. I'm in no way qualified to debate the science, I'd heard the science was mostly accurate, I guess it wasn't so. That said, there are obviously differences between male and female brains, are you going to tell me that a gender dymorphic species is gender dymorphic throughout the entire body, except the brain? Come on, that's silly. Same goes for races, you can hate it, you can ignore it, but there are bound to be very slight differences in brain functioning across different races, because there are slight physical differences across races (aside from just melanin - think musculature, skull shape, bone density, genepool). Are they significant differences? No, I don't think so at all, and IQ tests are a dumb way of evaluating differences anyway due to IQ results being related to quality of education moreso than anything else. And even if there were differences, the correct approach is to treat and evaluate everyone as an individual, not as a group, so it wouldn't matter anyway.
Now clearly, I'm pro-making the workplaces like engineering or computer tech less stigmatised against women. But, if despite these efforts, men still consistently apply to courses for IT and Engineering moreso than women, should we be forcing the correction? I think not. You could change the nature of the job to make it more appealing, I see no issue with that. We could increase pay for jobs that involve women more often - like nursing and midwifery. But quotas? Stifles talent to forward equality, especially when the quotas don't reflect the proportions of women compared to men applying. And if anything, the problem seems to be at the promotion stage, not the hiring stage. Only the most extreme quotas are going to fix that, perhaps we should be finding a better way to evaluate people who deserve a promotion to avoid sexism playing a part?
Also, are you going to deny that on average men tend to be attracted to more autistic tasks (chess, computing, engineering)? Are you going to tell me that evolutionary biology is bullshit, that gendered distribution of hormones play no part in people's behaviour, and that thinking back to hunter gatherer societies to explain evolutionary gender tendencies is "sexist"? I'm not saying women are worse at engineering, I'm saying women who enjoy engineering are less common than men who enjoy engineering, and I reject that it's just because of patriarchal constructs.
But yeah, I'm a sexist white nationalist. Yup. A sexist white nationalist whose in favour of meritocracy, equal pay for equal jobs, increased government spending, a normalisation of race relations, and equal educational systems among different immigrant and native populations within a country to avoid parellel societies and increase friendly intermingling and decrease antagonism. Yep, sexist white nationalist here. (now ban me for speaking my mind)
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@Monkey:
Also for the eight hundredth time I shall howl to the moon with peels of laughter at the idea that being a man makes me some sort of engineer by nature.
Again, maybe not you. It's on average. ie. more men are into engineering than women because the tasks involved in engineering appeal to a larger proportion of men than women. But sure, howl at the moon all you want if you find that so shocking.
It's not that you're the crypto-Nazi, it's that you're either realllllly naive, or in constant denial about the intellectual and informational company you often keep. Time and time and time again. Over and bloody over.
Either get comfortable with the call out, or take a long long look in the mirror on why this keeps happening and what has to change to avoid it.
Also yes thanks, I know you are insisting I have a vagina but I can ensure you I do not. I thought engineers understood how these technical things worked?
@Monkey:
It's not that you're the crypto-Nazi, it's that you're either realllllly naive, or in constant denial about the intellectual and informational company you often keep. Time and time and time again. Over and bloody over.
Either get comfortable with the call out, or take a long long look in the mirror on why this keeps happening and what has to change to avoid it.Also yes thanks, I know you are insisting I have a vagina but I can ensure you I do not. I thought engineers understood how these technical things worked?
I have no problem with admitting naivitè, though isn't that just a difference of opinion that you see as naive? As for my intellectual and informational company, I genuinely do try to scrutinise and not take everything I read or listen to at face value. I tend watch and read very left wing stuff, but I also enjoy sampling what the right/counter-progleft have to offer. I usually end up somewhere inbetween the two. I don't know if it's "denial" so much as being exposed to both sides and wanting to rationalise them both, in a way that makes sense. I'm happy to be called out, will defend my position initially, but if your argument is solid I'm happy to back down.
HOWEVER. The false equivalence of "more men tend towards engineering than women" and "you think I have a vagina because I don't like engineering" is clearly garbage intellectual dishonesty on your part. It's almost like you're the one in denial about gender dymorphism…
I have no problem with admitting naivitè, though isn't that just a difference of opinion that you see as naive?
This isn't about disagreements. It's about the "Oops I'm with the Nazis again??" comedy schtick you keep slipping up on.
As for my intellectual and informational company, I genuinely do try to scrutinise and not take everything I read or listen to at face value.
Naw, that's clearly not the case. I think generously I can say you have a better hidden case of the Roboblues, and have some strong magnetic urge to be the smart moderate in the room. Regardless of where the overton window shifts, and of whoopsie the right-wing end has shifted horrifically rightward! But you are obsessed with that magnetic smart guy in the middle South Park thing.
Generously.
I tend watch and read very left wing stuff, but I also enjoy sampling what the right/counter-progleft have to offer.
This is the most empty creedo in the whole world and it's getting to be a kind of tell for certain types of people.
I usually end up somewhere inbetween the two
On the contrary I think you've decided ahead of time that you want to be between, and stay in the between no matter what else shifts on the outside.
I don't know if it's "denial" so much as being exposed to both sides and wanting to rationalise them both, in a way that makes sense.
Whoopsie! The overton shift means you are rationalizing literal neo-nazis!
Let's twist the knife some more on scrutiny levels. So this poor poor lawsuit maker who is NOT a sexist and is actually a scienceman, and was complaining about poor conservatives being blacklisted by Google…
....for his examples of such discrimination, lists people like Vox Day being blacklisted from Google campuses.
Vox Day has written in support of: Keeping women uneducated, the pros of honor killings and acid attacks, women being unable to vote, and many forms of rape.
Rationalize that paisano.
@Monkey:
This isn't about disagreements. It's about the "Oops I'm with the Nazis again??" comedy schtick you keep slipping up on.
Ah well, I guess one can't agree with the right in any circumstance then? I'm not going to let something like "being afraid of people online thinking I'm sympathising with bad people" stop me from defending some arguments they make as valid. The argument itself might be valid, but the exactities or the extremes to which said person (ie. Damore) takes the fairly sensible premise goes outside what is reasonable. That doesn't make a more nuanced take on the general point being put forth illegitimate though, it is possible to pick and choose elements that are valid and defend the general point based on them.
Besides, you call em Nazis, yet most of them are not Nazis. Some of them are Neo-Nazis, like Bannon, Milo, Spencer and co. But others aren't, and calling them Nazis when they're just right-wing social-libertarians (and european economic right) (The Sargon crowd) isn't helpful.
That said, I do agree that these people (including Damore, Sargon, etc) have, in their circle, a far more right-wing slanted overton window, that often goes all the way to the Neo-Nazis (see Sargon vs Spencer recently). This is very unfortunate, because some of their points can be legitimate, but the whole point is undermined when someone notes that one of the sources they use is a racist sexist crazy woman (Vox Day, for example).
Now, if I trusted the media, I might immediately dismiss everything they say when an article "exposing someone" comes up. But the media's lost credibility in my eyes, so I can't just take what the Wall Street Journal or the BBC say at face value. Let alone something like Salon or Vox. They all labelled PEWDIEPIE a Nazi, and left it up to the reader to go watch unedited clips in context to see if that way actually the case… and no, it wasn't. This is a real problem, because there are real, f'ed up Nazis around, yet often you have to go into and read their stupid racist rabbithole to confirm it, simply because the WSJ has lost all credibility when it comes to calling people out.
But enough about Nazis and the reason they're successfully co-opting the right, lets move on to the ad hominem!
Naw, that's clearly not the case. I think generously I can say you have a better hidden case of the Roboblues, and have some strong magnetic urge to be the smart moderate in the room. Regardless of where the overton window shifts, and of whoopsie the right-wing end has shifted horrifically rightward! But you are obsessed with that magnetic smart guy in the middle South Park thing.
Generously.
Yeah, you might be right, I haven't thought about why I gravitate to the centre, so perhaps it is a magnetic smart guy complex. Oh well, guess my genuine opinions are just a personality complex, that's too bad. But you know, I've actually moved a lot more to the left in the past 3-4 years, so… either your analysis of the overton shift is wrong, or I've stayed the same and our perception of what is left has changed... or perhaps I'm still young and change my mind on things as I'm coloured by experiences and new arguments? Either way, thanks for letting me know I need to fix my centrism psychologist-senpai.
This is the most empty creedo in the whole world and it's getting to be a kind of tell for certain types of people.
Sounds like you're telling me you don't like my lack of partisanship, I'm not really sure what you mean. Bear in mind I grew up in Italy, our party system is goddamn nuts and maintaining support for a single party is pretty hard to do unless you're a devout "Berlusconiano" or "Grillino"
On the contrary I think you've decided ahead of time that you want to be between, and stay in the between no matter what else shifts on the outside.
Again, I'm giving my genuine opinions, but thankyou for telling me what my subconscious does psychologist-senpai.
Whoopsie! The overton shift means you are rationalizing literal neo-nazis!
Let's twist the knife some more on scrutiny levels. So this poor poor lawsuit maker who is NOT a sexist and is actually a scienceman, and was complaining about poor conservatives being blacklisted by Google…
....for his examples of such discrimination, lists people like Vox Day being blacklisted from Google campuses.
Vox Day has written in support of: Keeping women uneducated, the pros of honor killings and acid attacks, women being unable to vote, and many forms of rape.Rationalize that paisano.
Nah, I don't rationalise the Neo-Nazis, I do my best to completely ignore their existence. At most I'll confirm they are actually Neo-Nazis and then never look at anything they write or say ever again. That said, as I mentioned early, I tend to read and watch people who are right of centre, and I explained why this causes some problems earlier in this post.
Still… what choice do I have? Point me to an anti-pc person whose coherent and doesn't ever engage with the extreme right. Either I seal myself in an echochamber like you guys, or I expose myself to right wing views and run the risk of being very wrong at times when the facts don't check out. I'd rather the latter, and you guys let me know when I'm wrong af, I have no problem with looking bad or being wrong, that's all part of self-improving and learning new perspectives. Most of the time I'm wrong I take some useful nugget of information away from the discussion, so I'm always encouraging debate even when it's a controversial point.
On a side note, I wouldn't take arguments run in a courtroom as true representations of a person's view. Lawyers are bloodthirsty and will run the crazies most extreme argument if it gives them half a shot at improving their winning chances. And even if Vox is insanely insanely racist/sexist, does that make the whole entire argument for keeping in mind gender dymorphism when trying to fix gender ratios wrong? I struggle with that, I don't think it does.
(sorry for clogging up the entire page guys :ninja:)
This has been recently leaked
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An enlightening view inside Egypt's "politics" and why Shafik recently said he won't present himself to elections…
Basicly, military intelligence orders public personalities what to say pretty much word for word.
Aren't we all millennials on this forum though ? except a few ones who are a little bit older and some who haven't left high-school yet (I don't know how many there are. It always seemed to me that people here are like 30)
Hell no, Gen-X here.
There are dozens of them.
What generation does being born in 1982 put me in?
It puts you into Millenial–- technically. But you could also be counted as a gen-x
but whatever let's just make a poll and see how old is everyone
Now that I know why some people here are only posting on the politics thread---
What generation does being born in 1982 put me in?
Which definition speaks to you more?
Members of Generation X were children during a time of shifting societal values and as children were sometimes called the "latchkey generation", due to reduced adult supervision as children compared to previous generations, a result of increasing divorce rates and increased maternal participation in the workforce, prior to widespread availability of childcare options outside the home. Because they post-dated the baby-boom and were born during a period of lower birth-rates, they have also sometimes been referred to as the "baby-bust generation".[1] As adolescents and young adults, they were dubbed the "MTV Generation" (a reference to the music video channel of the same name). In the 1990s they were sometimes characterized as slackers, cynical and disaffected. Some of the cultural influences on Gen X youth were the musical genres of grunge and hip hop music, and indie films. In midlife, research describes them as active, happy, and achieving a work–life balance. The cohort has been credited with entrepreneurial tendencies.
Although Millennial characteristics vary by region, depending on social and economic conditions, the generation is generally marked by an increased use and familiarity with communications, media, and digital technologies.[1] In most parts of the world, their upbringing was marked by an increase in a liberal approach to politics and economics; the effects of this environment are disputed. The Great Recession has had a major impact on this generation because it has caused historically high levels of unemployment among young people, and has led to speculation about possible long-term economic and social damage to this generation.
What generation does being born in 1982 put me in?
Seems like you kinda fall in the cracks between X and Millennial. Probably both will seem a little familiar to you in description, but not overwhelmingly.
It puts you into Millenial–- technically. But you could also be counted as a gen-x
but whatever let's just make a poll and see how old is everyone
Now that I know why some people here are only posting on the politics thread–-
I never see you in that thread. Do you just browse it?
I never see you in that thread. Do you just browse it?
This thread here, and the european one are about politics too
I've noticed that lots of people are only posting on the politics threads and the one about "nerd" movie (StarWars, Marvel, DC).
In the end, a lot of people aren't even talking about OnePiece
We came for the One Piece; we stayed for the community of loosely like-minded people talking about anything and everything.
The only thing more mind-numbing than presidential shitposts is shitposts about Jimbei not fitting through a door or Pedro and Carrot being crewmate material because they can jump high.
The only thing more mind-numbing than presidential shitposts is shitposts about Jimbei not fitting through a door or Pedro and Carrot being crewmate material because they can jump high.
Here, a present for you:
@Nakamates:
The American Politics thread just stated that "there is a lot of controversy in their group at all times". Will someone from their highly moderated and strictly controlled discussion group please remind them we too have a controversial thread, but it is much more mind-numbing and far stupider that theirs, and ours is actually about One Piece!
Nakamates : AP :: Elephant Graveyard : Pridelands
"but what about that shadowy place?"
"You must never go there, Simba."
Those of us that have been here forever have already discussed most of the OP stuff there is to discuss Ad nauseam, and there's only so many times you can educate a new poster on something that was discussed at length and agreed on years ago, or argue why something might be the case.
Why Blackbeard is the final villain and not the elder stars or Aikanu, Shanks is going to die, why Mihawk isn't Zoro's final fight anymore, no Oda didn't just kill that character no matter how dramatic a scene it was, there will be ten crewmates, no it won't be this random new character just because its a girl, skypeia wasnt filler. Oda plays fair so you can figure out the long game super clearly, but not the next week when he makes up characters and actions on the fly… but thats not the same as "anything can happen." or "the Wiki is a terrible resource for a bunch of reasons" or "the anime is problematic because it changes A and leaves out B and pads out C" etc. Yes, a new forum member can get excited about and want to talk about those things for the first time, but for those that have been around... well...
As a result some arguments that used to go for pages of length get boiled down to thee sentences of bullet points now without much further elaboration.
So just sort of stick with the general community for other discussion and a convenient news source.
hey robby monet is alive :ninja:
@CCC:
Nakamates : AP :: Elephant Graveyard : Pridelands
"but what about that shadowy place?"
"You must never go there, Simba."
Absolutely correct :ninja:
hey robby monet is alive :ninja:
That's exactly an example. Three years ago there'd be multiple page debates about it for entire threads. Now it just has to boil down to "look, Oda drew the icepick in a weird way the next chapter clearly having not hit, she's a logia, and Oda is Oda. She'll be alive whenever we get the Dofla pirates cover story."
If feeling really saucy will also mention that Monet was coughing blood earlier because of Tashigi attack, and also that Law and Smoker were similarly taken out by their hearts being jostled, so Ceaser even shaking it should would have had the same effect on her.
Which then leads into even further argument that the anime extrapolated and made it a blatant stabbing, which then has to be counterpointed with the fact that the anime messes things up all the time, while simultaneously demonstrating that if Oda picked the exact one angle he could to fake the heart being stabbed and sell it, whereas the anime picked a different angle and made it super clear… and also failed to showcase the awkward icepick in the following episode.. and that since the anime leaves out coverstories she may well be dead there forever until the series finale, much like Bon Kurei... but not Pell since he survived outside of the covers.
Some things get debated enough times they just refine and whittle down to bullet points eventually.
Same way "there will be ten crew members" has boiled down to "BB's crew, what luffy said in the first chapter, Oda likes Soccer." Yeah the soccer thing sounds silly and like a weird thing to include, but that's because it used to be two page explanation of how Oda thinks and how important it is to him and also had a whole bunch of examples and interview quotes and various references. Now it's a sentence.
Of course now people are going to be arguing about Pedro being dead until he's not.
https://www.rappler.com/nation/193687-rappler-registration-revoked
The one, news organization that's not afraid to take a different tone in criticizing the Duterte government is now being shut down by the government itself.
Fuck my country.
Of course now people are going to be arguing about Pedro being dead until he's not.
Oh silly people. Nobody dies in One Piece unless it's in a flash back or Oda makes it completely ambiguous. If there's any room for debate whatsoever, then guess what? The character is alive.
Why Blackbeard is the final villain and not the elder stars or Aikanu, Shanks is going to die, why Mihawk isn't Zoro's final fight anymore, no Oda didn't just kill that character no matter how dramatic a scene it was, there will be ten crewmates, no it won't be this random new character just because its a girl, skypeia wasnt filler.
yeh, these are pretty much theories and notions. I'm talking about simple reaction to the chapter and stuff like that.
Apparently home schooling makes the process of keeping your kids under constant lock an key for nearly 30 years easy who knew?
I made a bet about Monet being alive and while I still think that's the case, I took a break from the forum. Was I supposed to change my avatar at some point?
I made a bet about Monet being alive and while I still think that's the case, I took a break from the forum. Was I supposed to change my avatar at some point?
I made the same bet. We still haven't gotten to the Dofla crew cover story so…. typically the Punk Hazard follow up would have been two years ago already, but since it tied so directly into Dresserossa and that ran for a solid two years, well...
it should be the next cover story though. THis current one only has a few more to go I think, and then 10+ chapters of playing with animals and color spreads and hopefully then the damn thing will finally start.
How does one even manage to put on ten layers and still waddle to the check-in was my first thought. Still quite an inspiring feat of attempted cheapness. Too bad whitey racially profiled his clearly not just plain stupid attempt to save a few bucks
Ordinarily I'm leery around sending people to prison for the rest of their lives but this is one of the few instances where I don't mind in the slightest.
What are the odds that two people with this mindset meet and actually decide to have a family and all ?
I mean, they probably met in a cult or something.
How does one even manage to put on ten layers and still waddle to the check-in was my first thought. Still quite an inspiring feat of attempted cheapness. Too bad whitey racially profiled his clearly not just plain stupid attempt to save a few bucks
How can one not afford the bag fee on norwegian airlines? Business must be going slow
How can one not afford the bag fee on norwegian airlines? Business must be going slow
In my experience even high up corporate dudes will fight tooth and nail to avoid paying what to them is a pittance in excess baggage costs. I've stopped counting how many times i've been shouted out over the "principle" of it. Dudes who run their own companies will fight you in the streets over 35 dollars in excess luggage fees
Amazon opened its first shop
Looks great, but I'm not sure I want them to know everything I eat.
Well shit they had a "lot" of free time on their hands
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/12/us/ohio-jail-computers-trnd/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
MSU's reputation has so gone to shit, and it's only going to get worse until more than just their now resigned President is gone.
It hurts to see all the help and coverups Larry basically got.
Some local news:
Racist letter warns Idaho youth soccer coach to ‘be careful.’ Instead, he’s fighting back.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/soccer/article196558079.html
The gist is the coach of a youth soccer club find a letter on his Jeep referring to the (7-10 year old) boys he coaches with racial slurs and threatening him to quit or "be careful". He's doing nothing of the sort, instead reporting and publicizing what's happened to get some action going. One thing I thought worth mentioning in particular:
Tarkon, who is white, said he wasn’t surprised by the racial slurs used in the letter because he’s heard them before on the soccer field. But he said delivering the letter to his home, where he lives with his wife and two young sons, brought the issue to a head.
“We’ve had a kid referred to as the n-word twice,” Tarkon said. “We’ve had our families told: ‘Quit speaking your stupid language. If you don’t speak English, get out.’ Or: ‘Here comes the future convicts. Watch your wallets.’ ”
Idaho Juniors FC includes boys from Ethiopia, Kenya, Israel, Colombia, Guatemala, Mexico, Portugal, Bosnia, Ukraine and Russia. Tarkon said he never set out to establish a multicultural soccer club, and it’s not uncommon to hear up to eight different languages on the field.
“It just happened. And man, what a blessing,” Tarkon said. “How cool is that?”
The coach's Facebook post on the matter:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1392441384199152&id=794215060688457
There's a special place in hell for racists who target children in any regard.