Chapter 780: "The Heart's Curse"

Magi

@Galaxy:

Jinbe is not going to die.

It would serve no purpose in developing Luffy (or anybody, for that matter) and make his timeskip training to protect his friends meaningless..

Luffy says he'll never let his friends die all the time.
He said this in Enies Lobby and got a reality check afterwards.
This pretty much contradicts his words to Vivi on Sandy Island.

Luffy isn't so naive as to think that he can protect everyone's life. He doesn't really decide who dies either. That's on Oda. If this were written by a mangaka who has no qualms about killing off characters, everyone would have already been dead by now given the situations they've been in since the TS.

I'm also pretty sure this only extends to his crew members, which Jinbe is currently not.
He considers Bellamy a friend yet he assumes that he just killed him himself,

Galaxy 9000

@Magi:

Luffy says he'll never let his friends die all the time.
He said this in Enies Lobby and got a reality check afterwards.
This pretty much contradicts his words to Vivi on Sandy Island.

Yep, but the timeskip was there as a measure to prevent it from ever happening again.

Luffy saying that pre timeskip was a rookie talking, so he needed the reality check. But another reality check like that just isn't going to happen. He's learned that lesson already.

Luffy isn't so naive as to think that he can protect everyone's life. He doesn't really decide who dies either. That's on Oda. If this were written by a mangaka who has no qualms about killing off characters, everyone would have already been dead by now given the situations they've been in since the TS.

Luffy vowed to protect his friends from danger and it's the whole reason he decided that a two year break to train was needed.

If Oda's going to keep that consistent, no friend of Luffy is going to die as long as Luffy can help it again. That was the entire point of his crying on Amazon Lily and his vow to his friends via the timeskip.

I'm also pretty sure this only extends to his crew members, which Jinbe is currently not.
He considers Bellamy a friend yet he assumes that he just killed him himself,

It extends to all of his friends.

And no he doesn't. He'd know if he was actually dead via Observation Haki.

DHL

@Nitwit:

Also don't forget CN is doing a Thursday night of premiere episodes of Steven Universe, Uncle Grandpa, Teen Titans GO!, and, Regular Show.

Depending if you like American cartoons, that is? lol

Nahh not too interested in them. I don't have time to be interested in them

I get back late from work and just sleep.. Ohhh the travelling

DonPatch

@Galaxy:

Jinbe is not going to die.

It would serve no purpose in developing Luffy (or anybody, for that matter) and make his timeskip training to protect his friends meaningless. The recent 10th member hint on the cover story has pretty much confirmed that he will be the 10th member anyways.

The only person close to Luffy that will probably die is Shanks, and that's by the hands of Blackbeard.

How can you say that with such certainty? For all we know that's just Oda setting us up to do a complete turn around on us. Jimbei dying could serve to show that even when well prepared The New World is ruthless. Who's to say his death wouldn't be built up to serve some development for someone or something?

Mr. Luffy

A Bellamy death would be significant because he would have died by Luffy's own hand. Not even his most bitter mortal enemies have died in that way (aside from possibly no-name fodder)

Galaxy 9000

@DonPatch:

How can you say that with such certainty? For all we know that's just Oda setting us up to do a complete turn around on us. Jimbei dying could serve to show that even when well prepared The New World is ruthless. Who's to say his death wouldn't be built up to serve some development for someone or something?

We don't need to see Jinbe die to know that the New World is ruthless. Nor does Oda kill just to prove how dangerous things are. It either happens if the plot can't move forth without them dying (Whitebeard), or if it serves a character significant development (Ace).

It just isn't being built up by Oda in any way, and would quite frankly be a morbid twist that just doesn't fit his style.

DHL

@Galaxy:

He'd know if he was actually dead via Observation Haki.

I have nothing to do with what you guys are talking about..

But didn't Luffy think Doflamingo was dead in the palace?

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Shadowgreed

@DonPatch:

How can you say that with such certainty? For all we know that's just Oda setting us up to do a complete turn around on us. Jimbei dying could serve to show that even when well prepared The New World is ruthless. Who's to say his death wouldn't be built up to serve some development for someone or something?

Please explain us who will carry the weight that Jimbi currently carries? Which character has been in both black (Tiger) and white (Otohime) situation? Who understand Fishman Island situation better than Jimbi himself?

DonPatch

@Galaxy:

We don't need to see Jinbe die to know that the New World is ruthless. Nor does Oda kill just to prove how dangerous things are. It either happens if the plot can't move forth without them dying (Whitebeard), or if it serves a character significant development (Ace).

It just isn't being built up by Oda in any way, and would quite frankly be a morbid twist that just doesn't fit his style.

Law's flashback and him losing his arm are pretty morbid. I could see One Piece getting darker, but agree to disagree I guess.

I feel like people want Jimbei to join because they just want a new crew mate. Just my two cents. Jimbei's personality just doesn't seem to fit the crew for me.

Galaxy 9000

@DHL:

I have nothing to do with what you guys are talking about..

But didn't Luffy think Doflamingo was dead in the palace?

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I guess it would depend on how focused he was?

Seeing as it was an element of surprise (it happened pretty fast), it's safe to assume he probably just didn't realize it was the fake Doflamingo (or that the String Clone is alive and actually died?)

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@DonPatch:

Law's flashback and him losing his arm are pretty morbid. I could see One Piece getting darker, but agree to disagree I guess.

Well yes, there are morbid things in this manga (and there have been since the beginning).

But the spirit of the manga isn't going to change so that characters start dropping left and right, since it just isn't what Oda does. It needs a story purpose or character development purpose (and Ace and Shanks already fill the latter… so what could happen with the former?)

I feel like people want Jimbei to join because they just want a new crew mate. Just my two cents. Jimbei's personality just doesn't seem to fit the crew for me.

Well, also because Oda has set it up and "confirmed" it with the end of Fishman Island plus the 10 on the cover story page.

What's wrong with his personality though? He definitely opened up more and acted more "goofy" during Fishman Island.

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CaptainKid

I don't see Law dying. Apart from the fact Oda never kills characters, Luffy beating Dofla and "saving" him would be Luffy returning the favor Law gave him at Marineford. Luffy would be saving Law when he really has no reason to, much like Law simply saved Luffy out of respect or because he's a D.

DonPatch

@Galaxy:

Well yes, there are morbid things in this manga (and there have been since the beginning).

But the spirit of the manga isn't going to change so that characters start dropping left and right, since it just isn't what Oda does. It needs a story purpose or character development purpose (and Ace and Shanks already fill the latter… so what could happen with the former?)

I'm not saying the spirit of the manga has to change, but that it can explore darker subjects. I expect some dark topics when we get towards the end of the series, but why can't Oda explore them sooner as well? I could see Oda changing up his style every now and then. That's reasonable to imagine.

Well, also because Oda has set it up and "confirmed" it with the end of Fishman Island plus the 10 on the cover story page.

What's wrong with his personality though? He definitely opened up more and acted more "goofy" during Fishman Island.

I like to imagine that all that is setting us up to be blindsided as readers. I can't say it's certain, but it's the outcome I favor.

I think Jimbei is a fine character and has decent chemistry with the straw hats. For me though, his personality is lacking in some way. He can be fun and light-hearted while maintaining a serious persona overall, but there is something I find missing. Just to clarify, I'm not against him joining the crew. If he does I just don't think I'll be very enthusiastic unless he gets more development.

Cyan D. Funk

Nothing would actually be gained from a narrative perspective from killing Jinbe.

All the suggestions for it being said here reek of "MATURE THEMES CAN ONLY BE BUILT OFF DEATH"

DonPatch

@Shadowgreed:

Please explain us who will carry the weight that Jimbi currently carries? Which character has been in both black (Tiger) and white (Otohime) situation? Who understand Fishman Island situation better than Jimbi himself?

Luffy or the Straw Hats as a crew could carry on his will. You don't need a character who has experienced both sides to unify people. You can also have a group who unite people through compassion and understanding. Heck, I bet Hachi could do it. He knows humans are capable of being kind, but he also knows how cruel they can be due to his time in the Sun/Arlong Pirates. He's also a pretty prominent character in the series, so he could be a possibility.

Syphin

I am actually beginning to think that Law's "death" is being used for more than raising the tension of the arc. There may just be a genuine reason for Law being in the state he currently is in, one tied in directly with how Luffy is going to eventually overcome Doflamingo.

Regardless of the final panel of the chapter indicating that a flashback is about to be entered into or Luffy beginning to hear the "voice" of Law, I believe Luffy's ability to "hear the voice of all things" (like Roger) may be explored in this battle and possibly become key in how Luffy will defeat Doflamingo. Now Luffy may not have the same control over that ability as Roger did and Luffy may never end up developing the same level of control over that ability as Roger, but Oda has gone out of his way to carve out in the story the similarities in Luffy and Roger and how they were/are able to hear "voices" and I believe he did this for a reason - to arm Luffy with a new ability that can be used to enhance the way he fights.

I believe Doflamingo currently appearing stronger than Luffy is very intentional by Oda, especially when it has been highlighted to such a degree as in this arc. Something so obvious is definitely apparent to Oda and he knows that at this moment Doflamingo holds the upper hand over Luffy. So then why continue? Why continue to make Luffy look a step behind Doflamingo? I believe Oda has a plan to balance the gap in power between the two characters and create a path for Luffy towards Doflamingo's defeat that has Doflamingo becoming aware of exactly what kind of man Monkey D. Luffy is. And that is where Luffy's ability to "hear the voice of all things" comes in.

Doflamingo has made it repeatedly apparent that he has a hard time understanding what makes Luffy so special. He acknowledges that Luffy has a charm to win others over but he can't see Luffy being more than an idiot. This in turn leads to Doflamingo questioning Law as to his reasons for why he chose Luffy as the man to follow instead of him. Doflamingo recognises neither Luffy's fighting ability and intellect and when met with the notion that Luffy will show him a miracle (by Law), he couldn't help but snap and later on laugh when confronting Luffy with the faith/belief Law placed in him.

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Luffy does seem to be in need of a power-up or at least a show of force on a level beyond what he has currently displayed. I doubt getting angry will help as Doflamingo feeds of that and is a master at manipulating a person when they are blinded by negativity. A new gear is possible, but I am more interested in learning about what Luffy's ability to "hear the voice of all things" is and the significance of it. From what we have been told about Roger, it seems like an incredibly powerful ability, capable of allowing a person to understand words which their minds cannot interpret and/or read. If such an ability is to play a key role in developing Luffy's character and role in the story, the earlier such an ability is focused on and developed, the easier it will be to accept it as a natural characteristic of Luffy. This is why I feel Luffy had heard Law's "voice" at the end of this chapter as it will be key in him coming to understand that he does have such an ability (not to mention making him realise that Law is still alive which in turn will calm him down).

As for how hearing "the voice of all things" can be used in battle, I assume instead of operating as a mind-reading technique, it heightens the natural instincts of the user and makes them more sensitive to understanding other people/creatures/objects. Luffy could end up channeling this ability to enhance the way he fights by gaining a greater understanding of the way Doflamingo fights quicker than he would normally be capable of. By being able to understand the manner in how Doflamingo attacks, counterattacks and defends, Luffy will have a much easier time finding a weakness or weaknesses in Doflamingo's style of fighting.

Luffy displaying the unique ability to hear the voices inside people will be the first step in making Doflamingo realise exactly what Law saw within Luffy and consequently what makes Luffy so special. A "miracle" will indeed blossom within Dressrosa.

Luffy ability to "hear voices" is definitely key to his character as well as the overall story of One Piece (connected to Gol D Roger) and I believe with him in the New World, the Dressrosa Arc and his battle against Doflamingo is a good way to make both Luffy and the reader's aware of what Luffy can be capable of (especially with the confrontation with the Yonko incoming) and why he is the man Roger is "waiting" for.

Shadowgreed

@DonPatch:

Luffy or the Straw Hats as a crew could carry on his will. You don't need a character who has experienced both sides to unify people. You can also have a group who unite people through compassion and understanding. Heck, I bet Hachi could do it. He knows humans are capable of being kind, but he also knows how cruel they can be due to his time in the Sun/Arlong Pirates. He's also a pretty prominent character in the series, so he could be a possibility.

None of the Strawhats understand the struggle of Fishman Island, they might have a small grasp of the situation but that does not give them the right to carry such responsibility on their back, Nami is the only character who has face a similar discrimination on her life but that doesn't even come close to the weight that this "dream" represents.

Jimbi is the only living fishman regarded as a hero despite being a pirate, the only living fishman pirate who has been involved directly with the World government, hell you can us the whole scene between Ace and Jimbi as prove that he won't be going anywhere.

Hachi is not a leader, he's a follower!

Magi

@Galaxy:

the timeskip was there as a measure to prevent it from ever happening again.

The Shinokuni, for example, would have killed them all if it weren't for Law and Brownbeard. Luffy was completely helpless.

Sugar and Trebol could have killed Usopp and he wouldn't have been able to do a thing about it.

I could go on.

And no he doesn't.

Luffy sure is livid at doflamingo for forcing him to safely knockout bellamy and for tricking bellamy into thinking he would care if bellamy got knocked out

The entire setup was that Bellamy's taken so much damage up until now, his HP is so low that anything hard enough to knock him out would kill him too yet Luffy hit him with with the same kind of punch he used to destroy a pacifista and still thinks that he's alive? Luffy went through all that for nothing?

He'd know if he was actually dead via Observation Haki.

And yet he's incapable of telling if Law is currently dead or not or that DD was a clone, twice?

Galaxy 9000

@Magi:

The Shinokuni, for example, would have killed them all if it weren't for Law and Brownbeard. Luffy was completely helpless.

Sugar and Trebol could have killed Usopp and he wouldn't have been able to do a thing about it.

I could go on.

You and I are talking about two different things.

If Luffy is in a position where he can protect his friends, he won't allow them to be killed. This applies to situations like Akainu killing Ace, where Luffy was there, but unable to do a thing because he was too weak, and with Kuma/Kizaru/Sentomaru on Sabaody, where he couldn't protect them from being sent away.

So nobody is going to die as long as Luffy is protecting them. That was the point.

What you're describing are things that would obviously kill people if Oda wasn't scared to kill people, but that's not even close to Luffy's personal promise to protect his friends from harm's way.

Luffy sure is livid at doflamingo for forcing him to safely knockout bellamy and for tricking bellamy into thinking he would care if bellamy got knocked out

He's mad because Doflamingo used Bellamy as a tool even though Bellamy idolized him. Not because he thinks he killed him.

The entire setup was that Bellamy's taken so much damage up until now, his HP is so low that anything hard enough to knock him out would kill him too yet Luffy hit him with with the same kind of punch he used to destroy a pacifista and still thinks that he's alive? No.

Uh yeah, and yet he isn't dead anyways, so what's your point? Luffy hasn't said a thing about thinking he's dead past punching him.

And that punch definitely was not the same punch he used against the Pacifista. It's a replica of his attack on Jaya.

And yet he's incapable of telling if Law is currently dead or not or that DD was a clone, twice?

Again, I'd say it depends if he's actually paying attention and not just filled with rage.

If he's panicked and not focused… I wouldn't expect him to realize it. Could also attribute it to his training in Observation Haki as well.

choperman

@Cyan:

Nothing would actually be gained from a narrative perspective from killing Jinbe.

All the suggestions for it being said here reek of "MATURE THEMES CAN ONLY BE BUILT OFF DEATH"

Why don't you and Darth argue more?

DEE JAY

You guys are so boring, I tried to read y'all, ya ain't saying something interesting, just wait for the next chapter already, you lack of imagination.

d0h >.<' !!
How I feel:

ZoroVsLuffy

LOL
Umm why are there so many people in spoiler? We get early chapter this week or something?

Magi

@Galaxy:

You and I are talking about two different things.

If Luffy is in a position where he can protect his friends, he won't allow them to be killed. This applies to situations like Akainu killing Ace, where Luffy was there, but unable to do a thing because he was too weak, and with Kuma/Kizaru/Sentomaru on Sabaody, where he couldn't protect them from being sent away.

So nobody is going to die as long as Luffy is protecting them. That was the point.

What you're describing are things that would obviously kill people if Oda wasn't scared to kill people, but that's not even close to Luffy's personal promise to protect his friends from harm's way.

So why include Luffy's "promise" as a reason as to why Jinbe wouldn't die?
Big Mom killing Jinbe when they meet up again wouldn't be included in the vow according to the logic you just used in this post.

He's mad because Doflamingo used Bellamy as a tool even though Bellamy idolized him. Not because he thinks he killed him.

Prove that.
Give me a scan of Luffy stating that this is the case after he finished the battle. until then, there's no reason to accept this.
You're completely ignoring the point of the entire confrontation.

Uh yeah, and yet he isn't dead anyway

This is completely irrelevant.

Luffy hasn't said a thing about thinking he's dead past punching him.

And yet Luffy kept reinforcing notion hat he would die if he attacked him during the fight.
If you're using this as your logic, why do you keep on insisting that Luffy doesn't think he his despite the fact that he didn't say otherwise?

And that punch definitely was not the same punch he used against the Pacifista. It's a replica of his attack on Jaya

A G2, Haki infused punch was exactly what was used against that pacifista.

Again, I'd say it depends if he's actually paying attention and not just filled with rage.

If he's panicked and not focused… I wouldn't expect him to realize it. Could also attribute it to his training in Observation Haki as well

Where was it stated that your emotional state affected your CoO?
He was filled with rage yet he could still apparently tell that Bellamy's still alive with his CoO according to your previous statement.

cyclone

@ZoroVsLuffy:

LOL
Umm why are there so many people in spoiler? We get early chapter this week or something?

lol yeah saw 207 and thought the chapter was out sheesh

Tyrano

@ZoroVsLuffy:

LOL
Umm why are there so many people in spoiler? We get early chapter this week or something?

I think the number of people in spoiler sectionn is a testament to how much eagerly anticipated the chapter 781 is for us fans :)

Galaxy 9000

@Magi:

So why include Luffy's "promise" as a reason as to why Jinbe wouldn't die?
Big Mom killing Jinbe when they meet up again wouldn't be included in the vow according to the logic you just used in this post.

Because it's pretty obvious that Oda isn't killing Jinbe at all, and if Jinbe was actually foreshadowed to die, he certainly wouldn't die in some one-off chapter without Luffy there.

And with Luffy there, he isn't going to allow his friend to die.

Prove that.
Give me a scan of Luffy stating that this is the case after he finished the battle. until then, there's no reason to accept this.
You're completely ignoring the point of the entire confrontation.

It's pretty obvious. You don't need Luffy to tell you this, but rather his actions.

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You think he's mad because he thinks he killed him? No, he's mad because Doflamingo is the reason Bellamy acted that way.

Plus the panel showing Bellamy's defeated face next to Luffy's rage in this very chapter (yes, this is Oda's depiction, and not Luffy's inner thoughts, but it doesn't nullify it):

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This is completely irrelevant.

No, it really isn't. We know he isn't dead, and so does Luffy.

Luffy hasn't said a thing about thinking he's dead past punching him.
And yet Luffy kept reinforcing notion hat he would die if he attacked him during the fight.
If you're using this as your logic, why do you keep on insisting that Luffu doesn't thinking he his despite the fact that he didn't say otherwise?

Just like Luffy/Chopper both thought Usopp would die if he continued to fight Luffy at Water 7. That certainly didn't happen.

A G2, Haki infused punch was exactly what was used against that pacifista.

Even so, it wasn't meant to be seen as a "pacifista blowup" punch. It's a callback to Jaya, just with more strength to it.

Where was it stated that your emotional state affected your CoO?
He was filled with rage yet he could still apparently tell that Bellamy's still alive with his CoO according to your previous statement.

Both of those are speculation on my part. We know very little about how Observation Haki is activated other than it varies depending on the users' skill. Since Luffy is a novice in it, it isn't unlikely that he doesn't know how to control it while panicked or enraged (basically, without a clear mind).

shanksa

i cant wait for the spoiler to come "D

Sarrik

@shanksa:

i cant wait for the spoiler to come "D

Me too, also I'm praying it doesn't say there is a break next week that would just kill my vibe.

Galaxy 9000

@Sarrik:

Me too, also I'm praying it doesn't say there is a break next week that would just kill my vibe.

Well, the last break was after 779, so this is only the second chapter since the last break.

Plus, the TOC preview for the next Jump Issue doesn't list One Piece as absent.

DHL

@Sarrik:

Me too, also I'm praying it doesn't say there is a break next week that would just kill my vibe.

Ruin

clearly the break is actually this week and we've all been tricked

sabinis

@DonPatch:

That's exactly how I feel about Jimbei. I think Oda is hyping him up for the crew so much that he's going to pull a big twist and have him die in the conflict with Big Mom. I can see him messing with readers like that.

@Razh:

Really doubt that. Characters won't start dying left and right just because Oda is teasing us with Law now.

And I don't see Luffy being the one who takes down both Big Mom and Kaido. Should be either or. And right now, the fight with Kaido seems a lot more likely, all things considered.

Jinbei is going to meet Big Mom possibly around time when Kidd with his alliance will attack her.
It is possible he might not die by Big Mom hands but for example against Kidd(I think he will be one of biggest bastards in this manga).
I see death omen over Law, Jinbe and Shanks(and of course Doflamingo). So just that feeling is for me rising a bit tension while waiting for future arcs and I find it cool. It would not be that cool if they all would die though

Galaxy 9000

@sabinis:

Jinbei is going to meet Big Mom possibly around time when Kidd with his alliance will attack her.
It is possible he might not die by Big Mom hands but for example against Kidd(I think he will be one of biggest bastards in this manga).
I see death omen over Law, Jinbe and Shanks(and of course Doflamingo). So just that feeling is for me rising a bit tension while waiting for future arcs and I find it cool. It would not be that cool if they all would die though

Why in the world would Kid kill Jinbe?

mario time

i really hope luffy one shots trebol for hype

lokilasher

I wonder how Mansherry is going to get to Law.

DHL

@Ruin:

clearly the break is actually this week and we've all been tricked

April fools happens between the chapter release of this week and next week.

Interesting fact,

This time last year on April 1st Doflamingos head got chopped off.

Galaxy 9000

@lokilasher:

I wonder how Mansherry is going to get to Law.

Well, the bird cage is currently receding, so everybody is going to be pushed towards where Law, Luffy, and Doflamingo are.

Tyrano

@DHL:

April fools happens between the chapter release of this week and next week.

Interesting fact,

This time last year on April 1st Doflamingos head got chopped off.

Man… How time flies by.
That was an awesome chapter btw

Ravaha

@Syphin:

I am actually beginning to think that Law's "death" is being used for more than raising the tension of the arc. There may just be a genuine reason for Law being in the state he currently is in, one tied in directly with how Luffy is going to eventually overcome Doflamingo.

Regardless of the final panel of the chapter indicating that a flashback is about to be entered into or Luffy beginning to hear the "voice" of Law, I believe Luffy's ability to "hear the voice of all things" (like Roger) may be explored in this battle and possibly become key in how Luffy will defeat Doflamingo. Now Luffy may not have the same control over that ability as Roger did and Luffy may never end up developing the same level of control over that ability as Roger, but Oda has gone out of his way to carve out in the story the similarities in Luffy and Roger and how they were/are able to hear "voices" and I believe he did this for a reason - to arm Luffy with a new ability that can be used to enhance the way he fights.

I believe Doflamingo currently appearing stronger than Luffy is very intentional by Oda, especially when it has been highlighted to such a degree as in this arc. Something so obvious is definitely apparent to Oda and he knows that at this moment Doflamingo holds the upper hand over Luffy. So then why continue? Why continue to make Luffy look a step behind Doflamingo? I believe Oda has a plan to balance the gap in power between the two characters and create a path for Luffy towards Doflamingo's defeat that has Doflamingo becoming aware of exactly what kind of man Monkey D. Luffy is. And that is where Luffy's ability to "hear the voice of all things" comes in.

Doflamingo has made it repeatedly apparent that he has a hard time understanding what makes Luffy so special. He acknowledges that Luffy has a charm to win others over but he can't see Luffy being more than an idiot. This in turn leads to Doflamingo questioning Law as to his reasons for why he chose Luffy as the man to follow instead of him. Doflamingo recognises neither Luffy's fighting ability and intellect and when met with the notion that Luffy will show him a miracle (by Law), he couldn't help but snap and later on laugh when confronting Luffy with the faith/belief Law placed in him.

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Luffy does seem to be in need of a power-up or at least a show of force on a level beyond what he has currently displayed. I doubt getting angry will help as Doflamingo feeds of that and is a master at manipulating a person when they are blinded by negativity. A new gear is possible, but I am more interested in learning about what Luffy's ability to "hear the voice of all things" is and the significance of it. From what we have been told about Roger, it seems like an incredibly powerful ability, capable of allowing a person to understand words which their minds cannot interpret and/or read. If such an ability is to play a key role in developing Luffy's character and role in the story, the earlier such an ability is focused on and developed, the easier it will be to accept it as a natural characteristic of Luffy. This is why I feel Luffy had heard Law's "voice" at the end of this chapter as it will be key in him coming to understand that he does have such an ability (not to mention making him realise that Law is still alive which in turn will calm him down).

As for how hearing "the voice of all things" can be used in battle, I assume instead of operating as a mind-reading technique, it heightens the natural instincts of the user and makes them more sensitive to understanding other people/creatures/objects. Luffy could end up channeling this ability to enhance the way he fights by gaining a greater understanding of the way Doflamingo fights quicker than he would normally be capable of. By being able to understand the manner in how Doflamingo attacks, counterattacks and defends, Luffy will have a much easier time finding a weakness or weaknesses in Doflamingo's style of fighting.

Luffy displaying the unique ability to hear the voices inside people will be the first step in making Doflamingo realise exactly what Law saw within Luffy and consequently what makes Luffy so special. A "miracle" will indeed blossom within Dressrosa.

Luffy ability to "hear voices" is definitely key to his character as well as the overall story of One Piece (connected to Gol D Roger) and I believe with him in the New World, the Dressrosa Arc and his battle against Doflamingo is a good way to make both Luffy and the reader's aware of what Luffy can be capable of (especially with the confrontation with the Yonko incoming) and why he is the man Roger is "waiting" for.

I would really like for something like this to happen. Your post got ignored over fighting over pointless and improbable things.

The Spaceman

@Galaxy:

Why in the world would Kid kill Jinbe?

to stop the Strawhats from having to remodel the Sunny

DHL

@Tyrano:

Man… How time flies by.
That was an awesome chapter btw

I still remember it's release.

A moment i could never forget.

sabinis

@Galaxy:

Why in the world would Kid kill Jinbe?

If all out attack from alliance would happen during time of Big Mom meeting with Jinbe I doubt that Jinbe would say "Oh you know Im not with her I was just about to break alliance with her as you came here"

I think its more likely that we will see Sun Pirates in conflict with alliance and even as Jinbe most likely wont die I think he might get beaten to close to death state by Kidd for example to create more tension and enemity between Luffy and Kidd.
I know its trying to predict stuff that is far away but I am sharing thoughts, not saying that its in any way certain thing to happen

jazzflower92

@sabinis:

If all out attack from alliance would happen during time of Big Mom meeting with Jinbe I doubt that Jinbe would say "Oh you know Im not with her I was just about to break alliance with her as you came here"

I think its more likely that we will see Sun Pirates in conflict with alliance and even as Jinbe most likely wont die I think he might get beaten to close to death state by Kidd for example to create more tension and enemity between Luffy and Kidd.
I know its trying to predict stuff that is far away but I am sharing thoughts, not saying that its in any way certain thing to happen

I still think that it will be Kaido or Big Mom will be depicted as the series biggest douches.

valiantt

@jazzflower92:

Dweeeeeh!

Are you like…a dumbass or something? Get rid of that.

Nitwit

Has the new chapter been leak yet?

Robby

Keep spoilers and spoiler related questions within the appropriate threads, NOT within the previous week's chapter.

CrazyMerlyn

@Kurloz:

Whose vivre card is leading the crew to Zou then?

How can we be sure it's pointing to Zou? If Law has lied about everything else, one more fake detail won't hurt.

@Jabberwok:

Eh, I could see Jinbe dying. He became something of a guardian/mentor to Luffy during Marineford, which is never a good sign. More importantly, Jinbe's presumed dream of peaceful fishman and human relations is distinct from the Strawhats in that it doesn't personally involve him. Most of the Strawhats' ambitions are focused on their own personal accomplishments with the exception of maybe Franky and Robin, who have both established that they're the only ones capable of facilitating their respective goals. Jinbe's will could easily be carried on by another.

I personally expect Jinbei to die too. A fishman joining Luffy's crew would only strain the Fishmen/Government situation even more.

Nitwit

@Robby:

Keep spoilers and spoiler related questions within the appropriate threads, NOT within the previous week's chapter.

crap… At least nobody got hurt. Am I right?

Jabberwok

@CrazyMerlyn:

I personally expect Jinbei to die too. A fishman joining Luffy's crew would only strain the Fishmen/Government situation even more.

On the contrary, if you expect Luffy to become the symbol of a new era, having a fishman on his crew would reflect their equal integration into the new paradigm the Strawhats will bring about. There's no reason to pacify the government when it's going to be torn down anyway.

From an in-universe perspective, Jinbe has worked in the past two years to distance himself from King Neptune so as not to draw the WG's ire down upon them. Pirates are generally recognized to be rogue individuals independent of any country; the only pirate who's known to have caused the government persecution of those associated with him is Roger, and that's only cause he was the Pirate King.

On the other hand, Luffy IS supposed to cause the destruction of Fishman Island…

Galaxy 9000

@CrazyMerlyn:

I personally expect Jinbei to die too. A fishman joining Luffy's crew would only strain the Fishmen/Government situation even more.

And why should the relationship between a corrupt government and the Fishmen matter? Why in the world does he need to die to "not strain relations"?

This government isn't even going to be in place at the end of the series, and Fishmen and humans will surely live together by then.

And Jinbe will be on the Pirate King's crew to help accomplish that.