Chapter 767: Cora-san

Chimay

@Tangaroa:

ASo the question now is if Vergo was the first Corazon, who was the first Trebol?

Why not the current Trebol ?

Aohige_AP

@BernieCrane:

Someone on reddit seems to have figured it out:

This is correct.

A keen observer on 2ch actually spotted it as well when the cam raws came out yesterday.
It's just Rosinante backwards.

senjuitama

This panel was great, I love that oda added it

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Tangaroa

@Chimay:

Why not the current Trebol ?

Depends on if the group at that stage was Trebol, Corazon, Pica and Diamante.
Maybe they promoted Dofla to leader immediately, dunno.

desa

@Tangaroa:

ASo the question now is if Vergo was the first Corazon, who was the first Trebol?

Most likely Trebol. The reason there is a second Corazon is because Vergo had a secret mission who left the seat open.

Shadowgreed

@King:

He is still there all chopped up and seems interested in the fight.

We can't see him during the skirmish because of the angle.

@desa:

So abandoning Doffly when the opponents are here? I doubt he would do that. He's probably still around.

Yeah, but either way someone has to go up or someone has to come down since is pretty much a fact that Law will/should be out of commission pretty soon and Luffy cannot handle both of them unless Sabo shows up once more which will be cool I guess.

Primo11

Am I the only one who thinks law should take out doflamingo? I mean luffy hasn't had a really impressive opponent since the time skip sans maybe don chinjao but with this flashback it would be criminal for law to not take out dofla or at least do some significant damage

And thematically should doflamingo be killed? Is a defeat really enough?

valiantt

@Primo11:

And thematically should doflamingo be killed? Is a defeat really enough?

Considering how all the other major villains prior to Doflamingo followed the same fate of NOT being killed…..yeah I'm pretty sure this goes without saying. Oda is probably not going to change his formula for Doflamingo either.

abyssal_snarf

usually luffy gets his but kicked against a main villian and then round 2 he wins. its law who is in that position this time. same with vergo. i'd love to see kaidou chase dd down or get taken in by the marines.

Hanz

doflamingo is a very dangerous guy to keep alive, so im guessing he's either gonna get arrested by the marines and sent to a dungeon where no one can hear him, or he's gonna get killed by CP0 to keep him from talking about the secrets of tenryobo.

Hamburger Time

Am I the only one who thought Trebol seemed exceptionally sinister this chapter? It almost seemed the he was ordering Doffy around…

Primo11

@valiantt:

Considering how all the other major villains prior to Doflamingo followed the same fate of NOT being killed…..yeah I'm pretty sure this goes without saying. Oda is probably not going to change his formula for Doflamingo either.

Very true, Wishful thinking on my part. It's not even that I want doflamingo to be killed off because of killing rocinante specifically but I feel as though if law is the one to defeat him law would be an exception to the never killing a villain rule.

I guess they could just expose doflamingo s underground buisness after defeating him and get him thrown into impel down

Magi

@valiantt:

Considering how all the other major villains prior to Doflamingo followed the same fate of NOT being killed…..yeah I'm pretty sure this goes without saying. Oda is probably not going to change his formula for Doflamingo either.

It should be noted that both his character and defeat have been developed more than any other antagonist in the series.

He's also the first antagonist one of the protagonists actively seeks to kill rather than defeat. Everything Law has done up to now was done in order for DD to die. His downfall will also have a huge impact on the story.

He either gets arrested or killed. If he does get arrested then it'd be a repeat of Crocodile when this arc is supposed to be the opposite of Alabasta.

Doffy. D Evil

Or he could escape ?

desa

@Primo11:

Am I the only one who thinks law should take out doflamingo? I mean luffy hasn't had a really impressive opponent since the time skip sans maybe don chinjao but with this flashback it would be criminal for law to not take out dofla or at least do some significant damage

No you're not. But Luffy is still that will do it.

And thematically should doflamingo be killed? Is a defeat really enough?

He won't be killed.

Kurloz

Dat aishiteruze :sad:

I had a flashback to that one shoujo manga.

valiantt

@Magi:

He either gets arrested or killed. If he does get arrested then it'd be a repeat of Crocodile when this arc is supposed to be the opposite of Alabasta.

wuh…...? :wassat:

PS: When this arc is done and over with, I'm pretty sure Doflamingo is still going to be relevant in some ways to the overall OP universe. He's waaay too big and important to be shoved off. And considering he has ties to Kaidou, I'm sure he will still be relevant in a way regardless of what happens to him (considering it's 99.9% clear that Oda has no interest in killing him).

Hamburger Time

I want Luffy to take out Doffy. While I like Law I think he needs to hand back the main character slot at this point, plus beating up the cause of other people's problems is sorta Luffy's thing.

sabinis

@King:

He is still there all chopped up and seems interested in the fight.

We can't see him during the skirmish because of the angle.

Trebol is not chopped up anymore imo

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Shadowgreed is kind of right as we see difference between Trebols height on last and first panel with him.

valiantt

No…he's still chopped up. If anything, that's just a perspective mistake or something (or him just sitting up or something). Otherwise Oda wouldn't have drawn the trebol chunks in the FRONT perspective in the last panel.

Magi

@valiantt:

wuh…...? :wassat:

PS: When this arc is done and over with, I'm pretty sure Doflamingo is still going to be relevant in some ways to the overall OP universe. He's waaay too big and important to be shoved off. And considering he has ties to Kaidou, I'm sure he will still be relevant in a way regardless of what happens to him (considering it's 99.9% clear that Oda has no interest in killing him).

He'd still be important even after death like Ace and WB.

Anyways, we'll just have to see I guess.

valiantt

@Magi:

He'd still be important even after death like Ace.

Anyways, we'll just have to see I guess.

Except you know, Ace's death served a very significant purpose for Luffy's development, Sabo and him getting the fruit and other plot reasons such as boosting Akainu and Blackbeard, killing off Whitebeard, triggering off a bunch of other domino effects… whereas killing Doflamingo would do what exactly?

Remember, Oda has yet to kill a SINGLE major prior to this. He would need a really damn good plot reason to axe off Doflamingo.

He's not going to die. Anyone with that sort of thought should immediately push it out of their brains to prevent any further disappointment prior to this arc ending.

Hamburger Time

Law is more likely to die than Doflamingo IMO.

sabinis

@kouch_lee:

I don't wanna fuel anything here. . .but the Trebol line this chapter about giving Doffy the "power to extract revenge". . .and, back during chapter 700, the one responsible to bring Doffy the Mera Mera fruit was. . .

. . .I guess there's absolutely nothing here and it's just a coincidence. But it would be kinda cool if Trebol just happens to be the guy with all the underground connections and stuff.

Looks like Trebol was first master and then Doflamingo in time took over and they call him young master now. Mera Mera probably gotten to him through his contacts and not through use of fruit in basket kind of thing during Marineford war as few of us expected.
So Trebol was kind of Palpatine of this story with difference of Mingo being on dark side since start so to say.

With Trebol being "devil fruit dealer" I am thinking now..

Maybe Burgess is not searching anybody but more likely searching for treasure vault of Doflamingo family??? They keep there most probably all gold and devil fruits so it would make sense for Burgess to go and try to use chaos on island to get to Doflamingo treasures.

@valiantt:

No…he's still chopped up. If anything, that's just a perspective mistake or something (or him just sitting up or something). Otherwise Oda wouldn't have drawn the trebol chunks in the FRONT perspective in the last panel.

Well… Look at Trebols beard. At first panel its almost flat on ground, on last he has more body as his beard is straight and he still has some body lenght to the ground under end of beard so to say?
Dont you see it? Perspective is one thing, other that his bear/body thing changed.

Hamburger Time

@sabinis:

Well… Look at Trebols beard. At first panel its almost flat on ground, on last he has more body as his beard is straight and he still has some body lenght to the ground so to say?
Dont you see it? Perspective is one thing, other that his bear/body thing changed.

At the very least, he's definitely reared up. His chunks also seem less angular in the second panel.

valiantt

@sabinis:

Well… Look at Trebols beard. At first panel its almost flat on ground, on last he has more body as his beard is straight and he still has some body lenght to the ground under end of beard so to say?
Dont you see it? Perspective is one thing, other that his bear/body thing changed.

Okay, so he sat up then. There's nothing to suggest that he is re-assimilating himself considering his chunks are still all over the place.

Magi

@valiantt:

Oda has yet to kill a SINGLE major prior to this. He would need a really damn good plot reason to axe off Doflamingo.

Here's what would happen after Doflamingo goes down

Kaido will obviously be pissed and Law+Luffy will be his targets.
This alone has a significant effect on the progression of the story.
Doflamingo's business will go down the gutter. Look what happened when he merely pretended to quit the Shichibukai.
The world was in chaos.

-Law and Rocinantlife's life long ambition will finally be fulfilled. Law did not become a punching bag and nearly die just for Dofla to get beat up.

Law and Luffy will obviously receive major public attention.

-He and Law will no longer be Shichibukai and thus the balance will be disrupted.

-Kuzan referred to Doflamingo as the biggest threat to the marines and that he's set a lot of things into motion

the Reverie
That shadowy figure in PH said that the situation was no longer only a problem of the underworld.

Remember, Oda has yet to kill a SINGLE major prior to this. He would need a really damn good plot reason to axe off Doflamingo.

He's not going to die. Anyone with that sort of thought should immediately push it out of their brains to prevent any further disappointment prior to this arc ending.

No one's claiming that he will. It's simply not outside the realm of reason.

Comparing him to past antagonists and basing your entire argument on that isn't very reasonable since Doffy has much more plot relevance, development, and pull than the others. Oda himself stated that he would kill off characters if the story flowed that that direction as well.

It's not impossible nor is is it asinine to assume that the story might flow in that direction.

valiantt

@Magi:

Here's what would happen after Doflamingo goes down

Kaido will obviously be pissed and Law+Luffy will be his targets.
This alone has a significant effect on the progression of the story.

Doflamingo's business will go down the gutter. Look what happened when he merely pretended to quit the Shichibukai.
The world was in chaos.

-Law and Rocinantlife's life long ambition will finally be fulfilled. Law did not become a punching bag and nearly die just for Dofla to get beat up.

Law and Luffy will obviously receive major public attention.

-He and Law will no longer be Shichibukai and thus the balance will be disrupted.

-Kuzan referred to Doflamingo as the biggest threat to the marines and that he's set a lot of things into motion

the Reverie

That shadowy figure in PH said that the situation was no longer only a problem of the underworld.

1.Considering the SMILE factory is probably going to be in ruins after this arc. His targets will probably end up being focused on the ones that destroyed it AND the Doflamingo family so it wouldn't matter if he died or not regardless.
2.Even if he's alive, he's still going to be stripped of his Shichibukai so…yeah again, this could still happen without him dying. (Assuming he doesn't pull any strings but since his headquarters is ruined, it's safe to say he's going to have problems)
3.So someone's "revenge wish" is fulfilled. Um...yeah terrible reason to kill off a character that's as important as Doflamingo.
4.They already will receive a lot of public attention regardless of whether Doflamingo dies or not.
5.Again, doesn't matter if Doflamingo dies or not for this to be accomplished. Both characters are still going to have their positions revoked. (Again, assuming Dofla doesn't pull any strings, but yeah even with Law getting his position revoked there will still be problems)
6.And with him dead, I guess that's a problem solved. Which...is boring and pretty much means that Kuzan's comment went nowhere since we never get to see it come to fruition on how he ends up being a major marine threat.
7. And?
8. Which means?

Yeah...more than half of these will still occur regardless of Doflamingo dies or not (which makes killing him even more pointless). So there's absolutely no good reason to kill off Doflamingo when 1.Oda just doesn't kill people 2.He's far more important alive than he would be dead 3.It would be far more interesting to see what he does AFTER losing power rather him just..."being killed off pointlessly" None of the reasons you listed are "good" to justify it.

PS: A character with so much buildup like Doflamingo is NOT going to go away after this arc either. Much like most other major defeated characters (Croc, Moria, Lucci, and so on), he most likely will serve a purpose again. There was a lot of planning that went into this guy and Oda definintely not going to toss him off to fulfill Law's revenge fantasy (assuming that's his main motivation.) Not to mention it'll be much more fun to so Doflamingo being kicked downwards and seeing him deal with the humiliation (especially seeing his flashback as an self entitled Celestial Dragon).

TheGreatestSwordsman

@valiantt:

1.Considering the SMILE factory is probably going to be in ruins after this arc. His targets will probably end up being focused on the ones that destroyed it AND the Doflamingo family so it wouldn't matter if he died or not regardless.
2.Even if he's alive, he's still going to be stripped of his Shichibukai so…yeah again, this could still happen without him dying. (Assuming he doesn't pull any strings but since his headquarters is ruined, it's safe to say he's going to have problems)
3.So someone's "revenge wish" is fulfilled. Um...yeah terrible reason to kill off a character that's as important as Doflamingo.
4.They already will receive a lot of public attention regardless of whether Doflamingo dies or not.
5.Again, doesn't matter if Doflamingo dies or not for this to be accomplished. Both characters are still going to have their positions revoked. (Again, assuming Dofla doesn't pull any strings, but yeah even with Law getting his position revoked there will still be problems)
6.And with him dead, I guess that's a problem solved. Which...is boring and pretty much means that Kuzan's comment went nowhere since we never get to see it come to fruition on how he ends up being a major marine threat.
7. And?
8. Which means?

Yeah...more than half of these will still occur regardless of Doflamingo dies or not (which makes killing him even more pointless). So there's absolutely no good reason to kill off Doflamingo when 1.Oda just doesn't kill people 2.He's far more important alive than he would be dead 3.It would be far more interesting to see what he does AFTER losing power rather him just..."being killed off pointlessly"

PS: A character with so much buildup like Doflamingo is NOT going to go away after this arc either. Much like most other major defeated characters (Croc, Moria, Lucci, and so on), he most likely will serve a purpose again. There was a lot of planning that went into this guy and Oda definintely not going to toss him off to fulfill Law's revenge fantasy (assuming that's his main motivation.) Not to mention it'll be much more fun to so Doflamingo being kicked downwards and seeing him deal with the humiliation (especially seeing his flashback as an self entitled Celestial Dragon).

How would his death be pointless?

Cora-san is very close to becoming one of my favorite characters. What an amazing character. He reminds me of Hiluluk, with their deaths being incredibly memorable and sad.

valiantt

@TheGreatestSwordsman:

How would his death be pointless?

Because there's absolutely NO point in killing him. Give me one "GOOD" reason why killing off Doflamingo would be a good direction. I have yet to hear how a dead flamingo could lead to a lot of ripe plot/character opportunities (as well as the complete absence of ANY foreshadowing or thematic connections that would lead to it).

Magi

@valiantt:

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You're missing the point entirely.

1.Oda just doesn't kill people

Oda's statement completely mitigates that.

2.He's far more important alive than he would be dead

Says who or what?

.It would be far more interesting to see what he does AFTER losing power rather him just…"being killed off pointlessly"

This is personal opinion.

he most likely will serve a purpose again.

Prove that.

not going to toss him off to fulfill Law's revenge

The reason we even have this arc or punk Hazard is specifically for this ambition.

Not to mention it'll be much more fun to so Doflamingo being kicked downwards and seeing him deal with the humiliation

Again, personal opinion.

valiantt

@Magi:

You're missing the point entirely.

Oda's statement completely mitigates that.

Says who or what?

This is personal opinion.

Prove that.

The reason we even have this arc or punk Hazard is specifically for this ambition.

Again, personal opinion.

1. Again: name one major villian Oda killed off.
2.Says the plot
3.Ok. Tell me one reason he would far more interesting dead than alive. And I'll give you 3 more reasons why he's far more interesting alive.
4.By the sheer fact that nearly every major toppled villain is still DOING something (sans mysteriously disappearing East Blue villains)
5.You do realize that Oda didn't write both arcs to KILL OFF Doflamingo as his main incentive? And besides, when was Luffy's objective = Law's objective?
6.Refer to point 3.

Ripcat

I don't see a big problem with Doffy dying. Yeah you lose some opportunities for future arcs, and hell he doesn't even have to be killed this arc but he really deserves to die maybe by the hands of Kaido latter down the line to hype Kaido even further but I don't see Law just letting him get away with just crushed dreams like everything will be fine and dandy.

Magi

@valiantt:

1. Again: name one major villian Oda killed off.
2.Says the plot
3.Ok. Tell me one reason he would far more interesting dead than alive. And I'll give you 3 more reasons why he's far more interesting alive.
4.By the sheer fact that nearly every major toppled villain is still DOING something (sans mysteriously disappearing East Blue villains)
5.You do realize that Oda didn't write both arcs to KILL OFF Doflamingo as his main incentive? And besides, when was Luffy's objective = Law's objective?
6.Refer to point 3.

1. In what way would this affect what we're talking about? There has to be a first for everything. That's like someone saying " name one protagonist Oda killed off in the past! " And then they get to marineford. Terrible logic.
Also, how would you possibly decide what reason is good enough to do what? You're not the author. You don't automatically get to decide what happens to the characters based on how good the ideas or reasonings are to you.

2. The plot doesn't claim anything. You are. You can't give a single reason for that. You're merely making assumptions. Never did it state or hint to what would happen if DD were to stay alive.

3. What does being interesting have to do with this? What you find interesting won't have an effect on anything.

4. Your answer was how you personally feel. It has no relevance to the argument.

5. Obviously there's a bigger scheme to what's going on now, but how does this discredit what I said? You do realize that Luffy is helping in what Law was setting out to do right? This whole alliance as well as the objective was Law's idea.

6. P. E. R. S. O. N. A. L . W. I. S. H.

Psycrow

Well I won't be abridging this chapter. Oda did so good that it even overshadowed Mangapanda's typical screwups. And far be it from me to disgrace something that's actually all-in-all good :P
I may "recap" it at the top of next chapter, though.

maxterdexter

@King:

It was never stated that Vergo blocked the Ope Ope no Mi before PH. Just that Haki can be used to block it, which Smoker also knew.

The "weak can't pick the way they die" was a recall to Punk Hazard, when we didn't know about Law and Doula.

Also, top left panel.

The lead bullets are a reference to Flevance and Law's sickness, all already explored in the flashback.

You know that these phrases lack context don't you? The weak can't decide where they die has to be something that Doflamingo said in the past, by the way that it's set up.

The only thing that was explored was.. the lead bullets, topic that I used as an example on how to give context to the things that needed it.

valiantt

@Magi:

1. In what way would this affect what we're talking about? There has to be a first for everything. That's like someone saying " name one protagonist Oda killed off in the past! " And then they get to marineford. Terrible logic.
Also, how would you possibly decide what reason is good enough to do what? You're not the author. You don't automatically get to decide what happens to the characters based on how good the ideas or reasonings are to you.

2. The plot doesn't claim anything. You are. You can't give a single reason for that. You're merely making assumptions. Never did it state or hint to what would happen if DD were to stay alive.

3. What does being interesting have to do with this? What you find interesting won't have an effect on anything.

4. Your answer was how you personally feel. It has no relevance to the argument.

5. Obviously there's a bigger scheme to what's going on now, but how does this discredit what I said? You do realize that Luffy is helping in what Law was setting out to do right? This whole alliance as well as the objective was Law's idea.

6. P. E. R. S. O. N. A. L . W. I. S. H.

1.Except you know, I read OP long enough to know how Oda writes certain elements of the story. And one commonality about his villains is that he likes to keep them alive for them to experience the consequences of their actions (ever remember that ruined dreams quote Oda pulled out for his rationale for not killing villains?)
2.Remember when Ace and Whitebeard died? Remember all that heavy foreshadowing Oda did? Yeah…where is that for Doflamingo? The plot says no.
3.Because unlike Kubo and Kishi, Oda is actually trying to write an interesting story with ample opportunities (heck he could have killed of Croc and Mr.3 but he never did. I wonder why?)
4.How I feel? Um...I'm pretty sure Croc, Lucci, Enel, Moria, and a whole bunch of other people are doing STUFF in the background. I'm pretty sure not imagining this.
5.So I assume Luffy has no say in the matter nor will have any part in it? Meh, he's the main character but whatever. He's not important.
6.Congratulations, you know how to spell.

PS: Remember the last time someone died? It was so big and monumental that it led to a time skip, a bunch of character development, chaos in a global sense, rearranging of powers, and so on. Yeah...Doflamingo's death will certainly do the same.

BernieCrane

@maxterdexter:

You know that these phrases lack context don't you? The weak can't decide where they die has to be something that Doflamingo said in the past, by the way that it's set up.

If it helps your case, Doflamingo clearly says it was him that taught Law that lesson: http://puu.sh/cQaWU/ce0e58cf7d.jpg (ch. 759)

Sereques

Looking back, Vergo not fooderizing Sanji is a testament to Sanji's strength. Vergo has been doing full body Haki for the longest time.

DynamiteShikoku

his wealth and power was robbed from him, he got betrayed by his own family TWICE, he was forced to kill his own blood TWICE, he ended up having to play pretend/make believe by creating his own family and make himself king, those are some of the horrible things that he had to endure since he was a kid, he even still have nightmare about these horrible things, he is more than deserved to be pitied by us, Doflamingo for nakama ! :ninja:

Magi

@valiantt:

1.Except you know, I read OP long enough to know how Oda writes certain elements of the story.

1. The point was that your argument was poor and could be contradicted at any moment. You're no different than the people who've claimed that no one would die before Marineford.
2. What foreshadowing are you even referring to? You should really stop trying to base everything off of one thing that happened in the past. That's not enough to form a good hypothesis.
3. No one even came close to killing Croc and Mr. 3 is a walking plot device.
4. And I'm pretty sure none of them were ever put in a situation that could potentially result in their death. Moria came close, but he didn't survive because of plot, specifically. There was actually a legetimate reason as to why he wasn't killed.
5. Why the hell would Luffy care if Law or Kaido finished DD? Seriously.
When everyone thought that Kyros decapitated DD what happened exactly? Are you seriously suggesting that Kyros would immediately go for the kill, but someone's who's life long ambition was to do just that, wouldn't?

PS: Remember the last time someone died? It was so big and monumental that it led to a time skip, a bunch of character development, chaos in a global sense, rearranging of powers, and so on. Yeah…Doflamingo's death will certainly do the same.

You do realise that the timeskip only existed because it's a convinient way to power up characters and create more plot points, right?
Timeskips don't happen specifically because someone dies. Have you never read an action manga?

Monquito

@DynamiteShikoku:

his wealth and power was robbed from him, he got betrayed by his own family TWICE, he was forced to kill his own blood TWICE, he ended up having to play pretend/make believe by creating his own family and make himself king, those are some of the horrible things that he had to endure since he was a kid, he even still have nightmare about these horrible things, he is more than deserved to be pitied by us, Doflamingo for nakama ! :ninja:

Homing didn't betray shit, and nobody forced him to kill none of them. He's just a butt.

Alaska Saedelaere

@Vectorkov:

Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't make the connection the first time.

I think in this moment he yells to his father.

Sent from Atari 512ST

Dohs

@Roronoa:

The kanjis on the cover page mean "god of the sea". Am I right, blue one (or any other japanese-Speaker)? Off to read the rest.

Sorry if already answered (but I looked at first few pages and it wasn't answered)

http://jisho.org/words?jap=海神ŋ=&dict=edict

meaning:

| sea god; Poseidon; Neptune |

Darth

@Monquito:

Homing didn't betray shit, and nobody forced him to kill none of them. He's just a butt.

No, a psychopath. One is a condition, other personality flaw.

Homing was a terrible idiot whom I dislike because of that quality, but he didn't deserved to be shot in the head, execution style, by his own son.

Dohs

@Tangaroa:

Very cool chapter. Frankly I'd read a spin off series of the Dofla family rise to power. How they all joined and things like Pink's change of style or the true story of Monet are just as fascinating as our main crew.

Such a dense, rewarding narrative this flashback has turned out to be; Dofla killed his dad and then Sengoku raised Roci. And maybe Drake and Law?
It seems from the Movie Z marines poster even Bepo has links. It's funny, when Law's crew were first shown with Penguin & the other guy I though 'huh, Oda's designed them like marines'. Seems he was hiding the point in plain sight.
I don't think Law is a marine, but that golden bastard's fingers are appearing all over the place. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Sakazuki. His predecessor looks like he's left him completely in the dark on multiple long-term plots.

Nice to see marines doing their work in some crafty ways ;) But who's to say that sengoku didn't inform Sakazuku of everything he's been plotting etc?

–- Update From New Post Merge ---

Also, can anyone show me X-drake in this chapter? I can't find him.

Razh

@Dohs:

Also, can anyone show me X-drake in this chapter? I can't find him.

First 3 panels.

http://readms.com/r/one_piece/767/2601/7

Light Bro

@Darth:

No, a psychopath. One is a condition, other personality flaw.

I thought we both agreed that Doffy isn't a psychopath. He does care of his crew, twisted as his caring is.

Aohige_AP

@Light:

I thought we both agreed that Doffy isn't a psychopath. He does care of his crew, twisted as his caring is.

That doesn't exclude him from being a psychopath at all.
Psychopath is a state of reduced empathy, not lack of. Doflamingo draws a clear borderline where empathy stops, and cares not for those out of the line. This line is true for anyone, but drawing such a tight nit zone and limiting empathy and remorse for all indicates psychopathy.

Psychopath doesn't mean one can't love his mother. If one can only extend his/her empathy to his/her close kinsmen and no one else, then yes, it's a sociopath, and with ruthlessness mixed in, a clear sign of psychopath.

MarquesaIV

@Aohige_AP:

That doesn't exclude him from being a psychopath at all.
Psychopath is a state of reduced empathy, not lack of. Doflamingo draws a clear borderline where empathy stops, and cares not for those out of the line. This line is true for anyone, but drawing such a tight nit zone and limiting empathy and remorse for all indicates psychopathy.

Psychopath doesn't mean one can't love his mother. If one can only extend his/her empathy to his/her close kinsmen and no one else, then yes, it's a sociopath, and with ruthlessness mixed in, a clear sign of psychopath.

I like your posts blue wise man, I wish to thank them them and like 'em like I do to posts in Manga Helpers. Maybe we can implement those features?

Also, I knew that someone would start the Doflamingo for nakama sarcastic charade.