Are we actually getting another chapter before the end of the year now or do we have to wait until January?
I think we'll get a chapter around 27th December.
Are we actually getting another chapter before the end of the year now or do we have to wait until January?
I think we'll get a chapter around 27th December.
Meh chapter, but considering what it followed, that's understandable.
@CCC:
Lol.
It was definitely racism. Or did you miss the unbelievably explicit KKK allegory?
Sorry, but for me that wasnt racism, at all. Hody wasn
t just a racist he was an terrorist…he didn`t care at all for his people. He just justified his actions with racism.
Meh chapter, but considering what it followed, that's understandable.
Get hyped. We still have the D block chapter to go through.
Get hyped. We still have the D block chapter to go through.
I'm sure it will be good, but chapter by chapter these things have their ups and downs.
Yeah, fuck it. I'm out.
I wish the circlejerk thread reopens. I'm not disgusted at the chapter, nor did I find it overtly funny.
But I am disgusted with the thread.
That´s the only thing i actually dislike about the discussion. Criticizing a piece of art is an essential part of discussing it and everybody is free to express any kind of uncomfortable feeling they got while reading the chapter, heck i would go as far as to say that someone who can sit back and try to look at something objectively is certainly a better participant in a discussion than the fanboys who only have praise for everything but there is a serious case of double standards going on around here which is something i actually can´t understand or tolerate which is why i actually ask the mods to open the thread, at least then i can avoid it.
Yeah that is probably the thing that i've reacted to about the how women are treated thread
It has some hallmarks of an in-house debate. There's no worthwhile opposition so the house rules stand.
So the air gets a bit stale, when it sort of feels like it's one group just reassuring other parts of that group that they are right.
Discussions can be good from time to time, but it feels too narrow, pinned down and sectional, not open and fresh like i feel it should be.
Btw, didn´t know you and CCC got green, so congratz
Why thank you very much.
many,many things.
e coup d'etat like that is gonna need a lot more preparation and effort than just akainu's will after a "no" from the gorousei
also,most of the marines are there as salary man to defend the civilians,they are notta gonna fight a civil war just for akainu,destroying the lives of the same paople they swore to protect.do you think that sengoku was ok to something like not telling the civilians that a big number of terrible criminals were now on the streets?ans still he had to do that,because no matter how you look at it,the marines are just subordinates of the WG
Eh, if marines stand behind Akainu who will they be fighting against… exactly? Or are you saying that civilians love Gorosei so much that they will rise against marines to avenge them?
Also, from purely storytelling point of view, why Oda would give us panel of Akainu saying "I'm going to speak with Gorosei about this", if nothing was to come of it? It's a rather obvious chekhovs gun, you know.
And seriously, taking places just like that (x,y, and z forum users, you did the right thing! the rest didn't!) in a case where a debate DOES exist and where we can discuss if this was offensive or not, of things are being blown out of proportion or not. . .that's not what I was expecting, seriously. Not from this forum.
Sorry, that's not how I meant it. Right/wrong are obviously subjective. I meant "…for saying what I would have said if I'd been around." I appreciated them taking up the torch. Debate is absolutely healthy.
But, just sorta bothered that Usopp would then have to go through with scaring a girl (given it's a rehash and getting no comeuppance for having that attitude kinda bothers me, though I guess there's a chance he'll fail and get turned into a toy/have to deal with her crazy DF abilities). Guess Robin having a challenging opponent though is worth more than my issues with Usopp just wanting to scare a girl instead of showing bravery.
Personally I love the idea of Ussop vs. Sugar. Being turned into Pinnochio is something, but I would like to know how specifically Usopp would react if everyone around him forgets about his existence. He cares a lot about how people see him, more than any other SH, and some of his past fights were motivated by "I can't lose face here, the others are fighting too!". What if there would be no gain from being brave, no "good job, Usopp!" at the end of the day? The dwarves assume that people will regain their memories about the person they lost, but what about the time they spent with the toy?
That said, Usopp giving everything he got despite the chance that people won't remember his deeds would be honest character development for me, maybe even more than him being brave enough to face a seat.
And when was that time? Robin's first and only full fight was in Skypiea and there she didn't fight any of the four priests.
Yama was definitely one of the big guys of the arc, even if he wasn't involved in the trials. He fodderized one of the Shandian leaders and was mentioned in the same breath with the priests, which is good enough for me.
And that was what I tried to adress as well. Oda is known to mix and switch the opponents, but only inside a single location. Therefore, I find it more logical for Franky to move from - just examples - Pink to Trebol
So Senor Pink moves underground and fights Robin, Franky makes quick work of Dellinger & Lao-G (which were send to the toyhouse last chapter) + Trebol after?
(Thank you CCC)
Wait, is the next chapter in COLOUR? Is there a chapter next week?
I honestly have no strong feelings about diaper man whatsoever. I didn't think it was funny but i'm not offended either.
But hey i could see how some could feel that those women aren't being portrayed in a good light.
But i mean that's life, some people have no respect for themselves. The world can't all be a bunch of Belle-mare's.
The men in one piece run the gamut from role model to horror story, shouldn't the women do to?
Or are women only supposed to be shown in a positive way to induce some sort of aesop?
This man deserves a round of applause
seriously this discussion is going in circles and already has 25 pages, it needs to stop
here's something for you guys: Do you guys think crews will usually be this big from now on??? I mean Doflamingo has 15 noteworthy subordinates, that's the same amount as whitebeard had during the war….. but then again Doflamingo is supposed to be super well connected and the center pin of the underworld
and we've seen that both Shanks and Black Beard have 9 noteworthy subordinates, what do you think the numbers will be like for Big Mom and Kaidou will they have huge amount of note worthy cast, or will it resemble shanks and BB
by "noteworthy" I mean have an intresting character design, ability, hold some rank in the crew and seem to be of some importance, so for Big Mom, Pekoms Tamago Bobbin and that cyclops girl seem to stand out, and for Kaidou we have X. Drake
@CCC:
Oh jesus I didn't realize there were already 25 pages of garbage posting.
Kind of glad I missed it.
But good job, Glibby/DF/Daz/Lawlord for saying what had to be said, even though it's clearly a losing battle :P
Yeah, good job at being offended over nothing.
Wait, is the next chapter in COLOUR? Is there a chapter next week?
Color cover page. Next chapter should be Dec. 27th.
Some people seem to have forgotten the utter douche-nozzle that was Spandam and the beatings Robin got from him. There's already been women being treated badly - this is just in another way. Hell, look at Luffy beating Alvida or punching Vivi.
The Alvida one was brushed off with an 'oh, she's fat and evil and totes deserved it lawl' by most people.
Don't get on your high-horses now.
Here's something for you guys: Do you guys think crews will usually be this big from now on??? I mean Doflamingo has 15 noteworthy subordinates, that's the same amount as whitebeard had during the war….. but then again Doflamingo is supposed to be super well connected and the center pin of the underworld
and we've seen that both Shanks and Black Beard have 9 noteworthy subordinates, what do you think the numbers will be like for Big Mom and Kaidou will they have huge amount of note worthy cast, or will it resemble shanks and BB
by "noteworthy" I mean have an intresting character design, ability, hold some rank in the crew and seem to be of some importance, so for Big Mom, Pekoms Tamago Bobbin and that cyclops girl seem to stand out, and for Kaidou we have X. Drake
Well from how a Yonkou has commanders with fleets and pirate allies. Oda will most likely give them names and abilites. Of course there will always be fodder underlings. It should be common in the New World that there's going to be numerous enemies and the scale will be bigger. I wouldn't be surprised if during some arcs the SHs fight two different pirate crews that are allied with a Yonkou and past known characters come to end up helping the SH fight them.
This man deserves a round of applause
seriously this discussion is going in circles and already has 25 pages, it needs to stop
here's something for you guys: Do you guys think crews will usually be this big from now on??? I mean Doflamingo has 15 noteworthy subordinates, that's the same amount as whitebeard had during the war….. but then again Doflamingo is supposed to be super well connected and the center pin of the underworld
and we've seen that both Shanks and Black Beard have 9 noteworthy subordinates, what do you think the numbers will be like for Big Mom and Kaidou will they have huge amount of note worthy cast, or will it resemble shanks and BB
by "noteworthy" I mean have an intresting character design, ability, hold some rank in the crew and seem to be of some importance, so for Big Mom, Pekoms Tamago Bobbin and that cyclops girl seem to stand out, and for Kaidou we have X. Drake
It'll be interesting to see. I think, maybe, we'll see more commanders and maybe one or two prominent underlings. Think Baroque Works for example - lots of fodder crew with 'bosses' hanging about. Or Whitebeard's crew - where Blackbeard was a subordinate under Ace. Maybe a small amount of 'Blackbeards' (more noteworthy underlings) and more 'Aces'. Plus Boss-man/lady/person/thing (you never know in OP).
I really hope that wasn't one of Kaido men at the end of the chapter, I would hate the thought of one of his crew members been mugged off by some nobody in DD crew.
This man deserves a round of applause
seriously this discussion is going in circles and already has 25 pages, it needs to stop
here's something for you guys: Do you guys think crews will usually be this big from now on??? I mean Doflamingo has 15 noteworthy subordinates, that's the same amount as whitebeard had during the war….. but then again Doflamingo is supposed to be super well connected and the center pin of the underworld
and we've seen that both Shanks and Black Beard have 9 noteworthy subordinates, what do you think the numbers will be like for Big Mom and Kaidou will they have huge amount of note worthy cast, or will it resemble shanks and BB
by "noteworthy" I mean have an intresting character design, ability, hold some rank in the crew and seem to be of some importance, so for Big Mom, Pekoms Tamago Bobbin and that cyclops girl seem to stand out, and for Kaidou we have X. Drake
Kaidou has at least 500 DF users under his sleeves, although you can argue that 495 of them are probably just fodders, but hey DF used to be really scary 10 years back.
That being said, imo, Kaidou has the biggest pirate fleet right now in the New world..
The chapter was not as good as the last one, but it's still ok imo.
I did read previous posts and had a little discussion already. If your stance on this is the same as the others' then I don't need to know it in detail. But if it's something more fundamental- your words gave off that vibe- I sure as hell would like to know.
I feel very uncomfortable because of what happened in last chapter, because, while I know it probably wan't Oda's intention, what he portrayed, is quite close to stereotypes of women used to justify gender based violence. To put in very simplified "she enjoys it, than it's all right (seeming enjoyment being seen as consent)". It wouldn't be such a problem if this attitude wasn't present in culture so widely. Usually it goes along with portraying women in question as not worthy of respect (as unfortunately in this case). Now, I know that, when you read chapter carefully, Pinks intention weren't at all to mistreat or humiliate the girl (which kinda saves the scene), but for many people, what we first saw was mistreatment. The scene may be not as bad as it seems initially, but it still is problematic, as it corresponds (unintentionally) with dark places in culture.
It hits much harder, than other instances of stereotyping, regardless if it were towards men or women, as it has connections (again unintentional) with other similar cases of portraying female behaviour, where similar stereotypes were used in much less innocent way.
I think others touched this aspect as well.
I don't know very much about this social phenomenon of "groupies" or what they are called, so I can't say how this problem relate to this particular group of individuals, however from I read in this thread so far one problem does not reduce to the other.
@kuma:
I really hope that wasn't one of Kaido men at the end of the chapter, I would hate the thought of one of his crew members been mugged off by some nobody in DD crew.
that's just some underground traders, if he's from kaidou's crew, he'll just ring a dendenmushi and shit storm will come to dressrosa like how big mom wants to destroy fishmen island when her subordinates got somewhat screwed the other side of the ocean
Yup, my suspicion of him being the strongest instead of just the title of right handed man seems more and more plausable now.
According to Aohige, they're all the same rank.
And what stops Akainu from killing them all and establishing military junta when they try something like that? Remember, marines are most likely more loyal to him and the cause of absolute justice then they to WG. And if junta is established, they just need to take stuff they need. Supplies are also probably held in marine bases, so the next few days of survival wouldn't be a problem.
The 40 or so nations allied to the WG. And also all the potential new pirates that would appear if the WG disappeared. Not to mention the threat of the Revolutionaries and Emperors taking advantage of the situation.
And the fact that the WG are the ones who propagate the idea of Absolute Justice in the first place. If the Marines are loyal to Akainu because of the Absolute Justice doctrine, then they won't rebel against the guys who tell them to enforce it.
@MJR.:
How come you think Robin will fight Trebol?
She had no real fight since ever
Trebol is an extraordinary disgusting male, just like every other opponent she had before
She is currently the most powerful character in the SOP group, unless Leo & the bug zoans are unexpectedly strong
Trebol appears to have an intangible body, logia or not. Perfect to counter to her Devil Fruit. She doesn't have haki, but outsmarting her opponent used to be part of her fighting style.
80% wishful thinking on my part.
I feel very uncomfortable because of what happened in last chapter, because, while I know it probably wan't Oda's intention, what he portrayed, is quite close to stereotypes of women used to justify gender based violence. To put in very simplified "she enjoys it, than it's all right (seeming enjoyment being seen as consent)". It wouldn't be such a problem if this attitude wasn't present in culture so widely. Usually it goes along with portraying women in question as not worthy of respect (as unfortunately in this case). Now, I know that, when you read chapter carefully, Pinks intention weren't at all to mistreat or humiliate the girl (which kinda saves the scene), but for many people, what we first saw was mistreatment. The scene may be not as bad as it seems initially, but it still is problematic, as it corresponds (unintentionally) with dark places in culture.
It hits much harder, than other instances of stereotyping, regardless if it were towards men or women, as it has connections (again unintentional) with other similar cases of portraying female behaviour, where similar stereotypes were used in much less innocent way.
I think others touched this aspect as well.
I don't know very much about this social phenomenon of "groupies" or what they are called, so I can't say how this problem relate to this particular group of individuals, however from I read in this thread so far one problem does not reduce to the other.
You should read up on the definition of groupies then. Because that is exactly what those women around Senor Pink are. And it's not that Oda was going for a masochistic type of woman to portray there (I assume that is what you meant with 'but she enjoys it) but rather depicted the term groupie 1:1. I am most certain this is not what Oda thinks of women. He simply went with that kind of woman that would suit someone like Senor Pink- a groupie.
If you disapprove of women offering themselves like that then you should criticize the world in general, and not just One Piece. It wasn't Eiichiro Oda that came up with that stereotype; he merely made use of it by using it in his own manga, in order to match the arc's atmosphere.
The 40 or so nations allied to the WG. Not to mention all the new pirates that would appear if the WG disappeared. Not to mention the threat of the Revolutionaries and Emperors taking advantage of the situation.
And the fact that the WG are the ones who propagate the idea of Absolute Justice in the first place. If the Marines are loyal to Akainu because of the Absolute Justice doctrine, then they won't rebel against the guys who tell them to enforce it.
Hmm… Okay, I will concede on that point. But I still think that Fuji will go against Doffy on Sakazukis orders. That talk with Gorosei is just to much of a chekovs gun to not pay off in any way.
I feel very uncomfortable because of what happened in last chapter, because, while I know it probably wan't Oda's intention, what he portrayed, is quite close to stereotypes of women used to justify gender based violence. To put in very simplified "she enjoys it, than it's all right (seeming enjoyment being seen as consent)". It wouldn't be such a problem if this attitude wasn't present in culture so widely. Usually it goes along with portraying women in question as not worthy of respect (as unfortunately in this case). Now, I know that, when you read chapter carefully, Pinks intention weren't at all to mistreat or humiliate the girl (which kinda saves the scene), but for many people, what we first saw was mistreatment. The scene may be not as bad as it seems initially, but it still is problematic, as it corresponds (unintentionally) with dark places in culture.
It hits much harder, than other instances of stereotyping, regardless if it were towards men or women, as it has connections (again unintentional) with other similar cases of portraying female behaviour, where similar stereotypes were used in much less innocent way.
I think others touched this aspect as well.
I don't know very much about this social phenomenon of "groupies" or what they are called, so I can't say how this problem relate to this particular group of individuals, however from I read in this thread so far one problem does not reduce to the other.
Groupie's are basically really obsessed fans who hang around their idols. No matter what demeaning acts they do to them. They still love them for it.
Groupie from wiki
The term groupie is derived from group, in reference to a musical group, but the word is also used in a more general sense, especially in casual conversation, to mean a particular kind of female fan assumed to be more interested in relationships with rock stars than in their music. A groupie is generally considered a devoted female fan of a band or musical performer. The term originates from the female attaching herself to a band. A groupie is considered more intense about her adored celebrities than a fan and tends to follow them from place to place. A groupie will attempt to have a connection with the band and may seek sexual or intimate contact. Obsessive groupies will almost certainly involve themselves sexually with any members of the band including the roadies. Further, there are now groupies of sports teams and other types of celebrities.
Western views are in a state of embarrassment,
I enjoy One Piece for how it remains so quirky and fun on the outside, yet displays in relative detail, many errors in the World today
From racism, to slavery and corrupt governments. Providing emotional connection to problems that readers see in day to day lives.
The scene, in question, as awkward and uncomfortable as it may be, should not be seen as a form of sexism in a negative way
He is merely portraying an antagonist with deeds that aggravate and spur emotion from the reader, sometimes it's just more noticeable than other circumstances
Oda has depicted many situations in similar fashions, he takes what is wrong and has subtly written an act that symbolizes a characteristic aligned with the character's personality.
For Oda to move onto more traumatic and controversial subjects, I implore thee.
I bet you if Doflamingo grouped Bellamy he'd still like him :ninja:
Personally I love the idea of Ussop vs. Sugar. Being turned into Pinnochio is something, but I would like to know how specifically Usopp would react if everyone around him forgets about his existence. He cares a lot about how people see him, more than any other SH, and some of his past fights were motivated by "I can't lose face here, the others are fighting too!". What if there would be no gain from being brave, no "good job, Usopp!" at the end of the day? The dwarves assume that people will regain their memories about the person they lost, but what about the time they spent with the toy?
That said, Usopp giving everything he got despite the chance that people won't remember his deeds would be honest character development for me, maybe even more than him being brave enough to face a seat.
Usopp's no Cavendish. His bravery isn't done for the fame, he just doesn't want to lose face as a human being which I think is a different than doing it for glory. And even if no one is around he would still tell people what happens in the end anyways, even if no one believed him.
That said, I also forgot that Don Chinjao and the King still haven't been turned into a toy yet either. Along with the Resistance, I'm hoping they'll also play a part and help out with the action (along with Rebecca and possibly the other Block D losers, though I'm not quite sure what Oda plans to do with them).
I bet you if Doflamingo grouped Bellamy he'd still like him :ninja:
He tried to kill him twice and he still worships him. He would love the attention.
I don't even want to imagine what the things Barto would let Luffy do to him.
I kind of want a Robin and Usopp team outsmarting a Trebol and Sugar team. Trebol's supposed to be Sugar's bodyguard, so it'd feel kind of silly if he let's himself get distracted or distanced from her during a solo fight (it is a shonen manga though, so suspension of disbelief would allow for him to do so). Trapping (Trebol's power) and then incapacitating (via Sugar's power) would make their team's combo something Robin and Usopp would have to outsmart and could be interesting. Not sure if it'd be as interesting as Usopp turning into a toy though.
Personally I love the idea of Ussop vs. Sugar. Being turned into Pinnochio is something, but I would like to know how specifically Usopp would react if everyone around him forgets about his existence. He cares a lot about how people see him, more than any other SH, and some of his past fights were motivated by "I can't lose face here, the others are fighting too!". What if there would be no gain from being brave, no "good job, Usopp!" at the end of the day? The dwarves assume that people will regain their memories about the person they lost, but what about the time they spent with the toy?
That said, Usopp giving everything he got despite the chance that people won't remember his deeds would be honest character development for me, maybe even more than him being brave enough to face a seat.
Really? I thought Ussop out grew that in Arlong Park. Otherwise good point out of all the Straw hats he's the one who would most devastated by having people forget him.
Has anyone else noticed, Eyewear is a thing this saga.
Aviators, Aviators everywhere.
About the whole "sexism" issue:
It's pretty obvious that the problem doesn't lie on Señor Pink, but the groupies themselves.
Oda is doing nothing but taking a jab at those kind of people through Señor Pink himself.
You shouldn't have never closed the women thread Foolio. Folks are just gonna argue about it anyway, so why not keep them in one thread instead of all over AP?
Anyway maybe it's because I'm a pervert myself but I thought it was a funny and edgy joke! We are in the 2010s ladies! I think most of us guys already know that you're not just sex objects, even if we're not reminded of it every time some fictional girl does something submissive.
You should read up on the definition of groupies then. Because that is exactly what those women around Senor Pink are. And it's not that Oda was going for a masochistic type of woman to portray there (I assume that is what you meant with 'but she enjoys it) but rather depicted the term groupie 1:1. I am most certain this is not what Oda thinks of women. He simply went with that kind of woman that would suit someone like Senor Pink- a groupie.
If you disapprove of women offering themselves like that then you should criticize the world in general, and not just One Piece. It wasn't Eiichiro Oda that came up with that stereotype; he merely made use of it by using it in his own manga, in order to match the arc's atmosphere.
Oh, I'm well aware of the fact, that Oda didn't create the stereotype, and I'm certainly criticise world a whole (just in other places than this thread). I'm aware that Oda doesn't try to enforce the stereotype here.
I do not know from the experience any such group of women who would express similar behaviour. They may exist, it may be even inter-cultural phenomenon. Wikipedia does not give me enough information or insight on this on this, I have no idea how does it tie into rest of society. The term doesn't even have an equivalent in my language.
On the other hand, after thinking about it, I don't think a "groupie" suits Senor Pink very well.
I really hope the SH get tested in this arc I want to see just how strong they are. On another note I love Franky's don't give a fuck attitude, he's slowly becoming my favourite SH.
Oh, I'm well aware of the fact, that Oda didn't create the stereotype, and I'm certainly criticise world a whole (just in other places than this thread). I'm aware that Oda doesn't try to enforce the stereotype here.
I do not know from the experience any such group of women who would express similar behaviour. They may exist, it may be even inter-cultural phenomenon. Wikipedia does not give me enough information or insight on this on this, I have no idea how does it tie into rest of society. The term doesn't even have an equivalent in my language.
On the other hand, after thinking about it, I don't think a "groupie" suits Senor Pink very well.
That monkey with the cymbals in the last panel has gotta be Sai right? I think he'll be able to help with the attack once Sugar is knocked out and possibly free the other the other fighters that are trapped. http://www.batoto.net/read/_/203351/one-piece_ch726_by_powermanga/12
I see a toy with cymbals in the last panel but he is no Monkey:wassat:.
As I can see its a sort of Clown.
About the little girl maybe going unconscious, wont all the people just be extremely tired? Afterall they barely sleep during the night as it was stated:wassat:
Oh, I'm well aware of the fact, that Oda didn't create the stereotype, and I'm certainly criticise world a whole (just in other places than this thread). I'm aware that Oda doesn't try to enforce the stereotype here.
I do not know from the experience any such group of women who would express similar behaviour. They may exist, it may be even inter-cultural phenomenon. Wikipedia does not give me enough information or insight on this on this, I have no idea how does it tie into rest of society. The term doesn't even have an equivalent in my language.
On the other hand, after thinking about it, I don't think a "groupie" suits Senor Pink very well.
I think that's kind of the point. He is the last person you would expect to have groupies so him having groupies is funny.
She had no real fight since ever
Trebol is an extraordinary disgusting male, just like every other opponent she had before
She is currently the most powerful character in the SOP group, unless Leo & the bug zoans are unexpectedly strong
Trebol appears to have an intangible body, logia or not. Perfect to counter to her Devil Fruit. She doesn't have haki, but outsmarting her opponent used to be part of her fighting style.
80% wishful thinking on my part.
I'll add my support to that :D
Sorry we can't be all flowers and rainbows all the time.
Fair, still the things in real life are f! up because we wants to impose our differences before having solidified what makes us similar
And that's still a stupid argument. So I see something that bothers me in a chapter, and the correct response is to… drop everything and commit to real world activism to solve that problem in general? I don't want to. I just want to enjoy the damn manga.
Obviously you can vent but maybe, before thinking you hold the only truth, you should find an answer in yourself and your personal experience, how it does effect what you see and touch your sensitivity in a way that others are not touched, before venting on internet.
The big problem is that you and others, me too at times, come here expecting to find a common vision, and got upset more for the others that think differently. and we blow things out of proportions.
Everyone has his own sensitivity to read into things, forcing that vision unto others is wrong.
Doing it aggressively is even more wrong.
And this place does not help at all, since ban policies for attacking other users are not enforced.
So at the end, since you don't enjoy the damn manga you end up here shouting to other people because they're not as outraged as you are.
You're free to do it, I just encourage you to stop and think how much it's worth.
If there's a problem, it's not in a manga that just depicts some "likely" real life events/STEREOTYPES.
Some men won't stop to look at women as objects and some women won't stop selling their image because men are beasts only because OP is a sexuality-friendly manga.
I wish. I don't think him having groupies is particularly funny. Jokes are supposed to be funny.
Seriously, SP is coming off more as a sort of voice of reason who is desperately trying to (literally) slap some sense on those girls because he is aware that he is himself a big parody of people who have those sort of fans and knows how stupid that is.
"Good lord, girls! What the fuck do you see on a guy like me? Go do something better with your lives! Seriously."
I wish. I don't think him having groupies is particularly funny. Jokes are supposed to be funny.
Jokes are subjective. Just because you didn't find it funny doesn't mean nobody else found it funny.
Good chapter.
-It's great to see Franky in action
-I laughted at Señor pink attitude, and there are all types of women in One piece, some are very traditional like Makino, other are strong and independient like Robin, etc, etc… so I don't think what Oda did was over the top, maybe unexpected, but there are girls like that in real life (they are usually high tho)
Oh, I'm well aware of the fact, that Oda didn't create the stereotype, and I'm certainly criticise world a whole (just in other places than this thread). I'm aware that Oda doesn't try to enforce the stereotype here.
I do not know from the experience any such group of women who would express similar behaviour. They may exist, it may be even inter-cultural phenomenon. Wikipedia does not give me enough information or insight on this on this, I have no idea how does it tie into rest of society. The term doesn't even have an equivalent in my language.
On the other hand, after thinking about it, I don't think a "groupie" suits Senor Pink very well.
I'm honestly surprised you aren't familiar with that term. But I guess something like that is possible too. We live on a vast world after all. Now I wonder though how much sense it makes to continue this conversation. What I can do is assure you that those girls around Senor P are most certainly groupies. As to why they fit a man like Senor P- that's basically the joke like it's been mentioned by other people already. And how does that correlate with Dressrosa as a whole? I feel like Oda's been especially paying attention to making the villains as antagonistic as possible. Doffy has usurped the kingdom, Trebol is disgusting both figuratively and literally, Diamante's supervising all that slaughtering in the colosseum, and now we have Senor Pink who's treating his girls in such a peculiar way. It all just works together. Every piece of the puzzle is where it's supposed to be.
LOL..what the hell happened to this thread..im assuming the people just so hype about sabo n koala..
come on guys XD
Am I the only one jealous of Senor Pink? it seems looks aren't everything after all.