Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)
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So…Jimbei is the only one left? How are your feelings regarding him?
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Yeah, you didn't bet your account… Hmmm.
Either way, you had issued some of those promises back in those "olden days" concerning this topic.
You are the fellow that I want to rub it in the most that Hancock doesn't join.
I remember your posts, they were those Pro-Hancock kinds…
I remember your posts, they were those Pro-Hancock kinds–-where are those posts that indicate I am **Pro-Hancock kinds–--**please point them out, Mr Liar.
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Yeah, you didn't bet your account… Hmmm.
Either way, you had issued some of those promises back in those "olden days" concerning this topic.
You are the fellow that I want to rub it in the most that Hancock doesn't join.
I remember your posts, they were those Pro-Hancock kinds...
you wa shock
@Suicu:So…Jimbei is the only one left? How are your feelings regarding him?
Unlike Perona and possibly Hancock, Jinbei's role in the story hasn't been exhausted yet. He either joins when Fishman Island wraps up or doesn't.
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such an idiot dare to written down–-You are the fellow that I want to rub it in the most that Hancock doesn't join.
I remember your posts, they were those Pro-Hancock kinds
someone's IQ is too low
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I remember your posts, they were those Pro-Hancock kinds–-where are those posts that indicate I am **Pro-Hancock kinds–--**please point them out, Mr Liar.
He's become paranoid; you only have fifteen posts, and you clearly state that you're neutral on the subject (at the very least, you don't support any of the current candidates).
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does anyone think that silvers will tell them what position they need to fill in order to get to raftel
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@JERK:
It must be nice to live in the fantasy land where you don't have the remotest fuck as to why One Piece is great, and why it maintains greatness. No appreciation for the hard work Oda does, and all the painstaking pieces he puts into proper place after proper place.
Nope.
Instead you're just LoLLl AH TAHnk OdA CUD MKake ANytHing WOrK, Anay Chjracater CocuLd join Nd It COuld worRk
Clueless and pathetic.
Yes that exactly what I said, am trying to say how great oda is, by using the example of how he can take any background characters and make them noticable and likeable, theres no need to say all that stuff jerk.
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Such a shame that won't happen
But, if it makes you feel better, I would love if Perona joined, the chaos would be so fun to watchBut there'd be no one of value around to cause said chaos if Perona did in fact join.
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What are you going to do if Perona isn't with Zoro?
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Sorry new people, you just have to get used to JERK DISEASE being…well...a jerk. He gets away with it for some mystery reason.
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I'm not sure what Zik's beef is with Hancock supporters.
They've been relatively reasonable debaters, and those who weren't made it quite obvious they weren't serous and just wanted a hot babe like her to join. I know I'd enjoy that.Nothing like the delusional rants of HORORORORORO
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such an idiot dare to written down–-You are the fellow that I want to rub it in the most that Hancock doesn't join.
I remember your posts, they were those Pro-Hancock kinds
someone's IQ is too low
I'll look, later though. Don't worry, I'll check out the previous part.
Something about your name that reminds me of Part 4, not part 5…
IQ, that's a good one!!
Good joke.He's become paranoid; you only have fifteen posts, and you clearly state that you're neutral on the subject (at the very least, you don't support any of the current candidates).
I'm getting some vibe that his name looks awfully familiar with some fellow from "Part 4" that supported Hancock. The joining date shouldn't match up, but I get that feeling that just won't go away.
Who knows, might be a member that just has the same username or something…
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I had said: "She will be a temporary member like Vivi…"
Then, I upgraded that to "eventually" she will possibly join the crew.
Statements that have absolutely nothing supporting it.
Her being taken from one place to another place, and if she is found to be on SA wouldn't it mean she's undergone a Vivi?
No.
Move from the Twin Capes to Whiskey Peak and then end up in Alabasta as a plot device to advance the speed of the crew, and keep the story at a faster pace than normally expected…
Why and how would Perona be used as a plot device for anything when the plan is to go to the Gyojin island and then the NW? Vivi convinced the SHs shortly after meeting to help her and set up the next saga.
There is a possibility Oda could very well do this sort of thing.
If you're willing to say this with no hints or any support from the story you can say Oda could do any sort of thing with any character.
We didn't know who Vivi was or what she was doing… We have about the same going on for Perona, and a faint idea that could have her on SA, if need be.
Except that Perona had played her role in the TB arc and has not changed since. There's nothing hinting that she will be a plot device to initiate any arc or saga. If you had speculated that type of stuff for Vivi when she was still Ms. w/e it would be baseless then just like it is now with Perona. You're literally explaining how your thought process is basically throw shit against the wall and hope it sticks.
Could Oda have had this in his mind, and decided to speed up the story's pace?
He doesn't need Perona to speed up the pace to Gyojin island. We already have Jinbei and the mermaid princess.
If you're talking about some upcoming saga well then you're guessing and acting as if it's a valid theory.
@Aohige_AP:I'm not sure what Zik's beef is with Hancock supporters.
They've been relatively reasonable debaters, and those who weren't made it quite obvious they weren't serous and just wanted a hot babe like her to join. I know I'd enjoy that.Nothing like the delusional rants of HORORORORORO
Haven't been reasonable from the stuff I've seen in this topic. This goes back to Croy and his ridiculous guess that'd she join when she was basically first introduced (around when the love sickness plot device happened). I've read a good amount of bad theories from them to not separate them that much from the Perona supporters and to me they help ruin this thread.
A "hot babe" joining can happen at any time really, don't really have to worry about that with Oda but that can't be the foundation for theories.
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I'll look, later though. Don't worry, I'll check out the previous part.
Something about your name that reminds me of Part 4, not part 5…
IQ, that's a good one!!
Good joke.I'm getting some vibe that his name looks awfully familiar with some fellow from "Part 4" that supported Hancock. The joining date shouldn't match up, but I get that feeling that just won't go away.
Who knows, might be a member that just has the same username or something...
take your time, Mr Liar. Something about your name that reminds me of –-- Something about your post that reminds me of an ASShole.
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You mean other than the fact that she wasn't there and nobody mentioned her? And that she has no reason to be there?
Forget it, I'm joining team Zephos.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Demescus/images-2.jpg@TiT:
Which means you leave the forum when Perona joins?
Did you chicken out?
You call yourself "team Zephos", then you better stick with your captain till the bitter end.
If you want to talk the talk, you got to walk the walk.
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Oh AGOG, now I understand why people tend to ignore you.
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@Zik:
Statements that have absolutely nothing supporting it.
No.Alright.
Why would Perona be used a plot device for anything when the plan is to go to the Gyojin island and then the NW? Vivi convinced the SHs shortly after meeting to help her and set up the next saga.
Alright. I'll bite.
Perona's history is unknown. She's just got an epitaph that claims, "Ghost Princess." Is there anything that defines where she was born or anything that claims truth? No. It's a big unknown. There is leeway room for Oda to create a plot line that connects Perona to some island in the New World… Allowing him a chance to create a pace-breaker.
The strawhat crew will follow their logposes, naturally so. Therefore, they'll go to FI. Depending on how long he makes the logposes reset, it will stall them for a very long time. Other pirate crews obviously already are ahead of them. What would Oda have to do to have the SH crew catch up? Speed up their pace, and advancement. How? Add a situation where they have to skip islands.
I'm only using Perona as an example because she's the only character that currently has this situation open. Other than her, you'd have to basically rely on Lola's mom's vivre card... My opinion has always been that making the connection that Perona was a member of Kaidou's crew is a great way to speed up the pace. Rather than have the SH crew chase Crocodile, they'd chase a Yonkou-- same pace, same stuff... Only thing different is Oda would have to give Perona a deliberative backstory that pieces this all together.
If you're willing to say this with no hints or any support from the story you can say Oda could do any sort of thing with any character. Except that Perona had played her role in the TB arc and has not changed since. There's nothing hinting that she will be a plot device to initiate any arc or saga. If you had speculated that type of stuff for Vivi when she was still Ms. w/e it would be baseless then just like it is now with Perona. You're literally explaining how your thought process is basically throw shit against the wall and hope it sticks.
It's just a thought. Not only does seem to "attempt" to answer what point Oda had with Perona's return, but it makes up the fill in the blank routine that forces the SH crew to ignore Logpose rules, in order to catch up.
Truth is, they won't be playing "rescue the princess/ fishman" from any character in FI, now will they? No. Those characters are bound to be distinctively from their islands, just like all other native cultures end up being. Then, they shouldn't have another conflict where they'll meet some girl on the first island they pick and then a quickened race starts. I'd end up completely repetitive.
Now, why Perona? Simply because even though her original role did expire, she returned in some kind of quasi-role for some reason… What's her new role? Unfinished, and unneeded... It's just a scam, I'd say. What for? Maybe build-up, maybe extending her towards the future, heck maybe even a small plot device. Nonetheless, there's really no point in having her appear and do the things her character had done. It's wasteful.
He doesn't need Perona to speed up the pace to Gyojin island. We already have Jinbei and the mermaid princess.
No No No… What I meant is to speed up the pace from [now] until the future… If you look at the logpose set time, in general, Oda has made some places take longer than a week and even one that took a year. We don't know how long Skypiea took, but it took a time as well. So, if Oda continues adding "times" to logposes, then the situation will be that every other character around the world will be waiting on the Strawhats.
Having Jinbei and the Mermaid Princess there won't instantly allow the SH crew to just bypass everything and quicken their pace into the NW, it just keeps them on Fishman Island. MP and Jinbei aren't going to have a super chase story about the same thing as Vivi, they'll meet and part at the same island.
The situation will still be that Luffy and crew has to rest on island A until Island C, with the same pace that the logpose tells him. Which is something that could go against Oda or help him--if he makes the times too short, then the other pirate crews lose value, but if he makes them longer, then the SH crews have to SKIP the logpose intervals in order to catch up with their rivals. Remember, the SH crew is fighting against time, not the world... They are the ones that are currently behind, not in front. They have to skip islands just to basically catch up.
If you're talking about some upcoming saga well then you're guessing and acting as if it's a valid theory.
Yes. I've been thinking about the bigger picture, the overall plot. Before, the other crews weren't ahead of the SH crew for two whole years… Now, they are behind the times and have to overcome that by skipping islands.
You may offer a better solution, but I honestly think that out of all of the current characters shown, Perona is the best to work with for this sort of set up.
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I've finally found the answer!
The last two crewmates have joined already!
They're "Wet haired" Cariboo and "Bloody" Koriboo!
They're already confirmed by fake Luffy in this very chapter !
Problem solved, close the topic.
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I actually thought about that for a minute during my second read through. I hope we at least get to meet them.
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@Robo:
I actually thought about that for a minute during my second read through. I hope we at least get to meet them.
There's like two odd strange brutes behind Robin, before the shift is taken to Lobin.
You could check if you like, I doubt they look similar…
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AGOG still at it, eh?
some things never change, I guess
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AGOG still at it, eh?
some things never change, I guess
So, you think that Oda isn't going to set up a hastened rush through the early portions of the NW?
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Yes that exactly what I said, am trying to say how great oda is, by using the example of how he can take any background characters and make them noticable and likeable, theres no need to say all that stuff jerk.
Wrong. I do not agree with you at all.
Oda isn't some shit writer who pulls twists out of nowhere, if he intends for something as major as crew status he builds to it ahead of time.
Robin is NOTHING like Perona, don't even think of comparing their crew statuses.Perona won't join ever precisely because Oda has done NOTHING to make her viable.
You don't seem at all aware of Oda's hard work in building toward things.
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How low the chances are… I still think and hope Margueritte joins somehow..
Hancock is out of the picture. The only thing I keep thinking a Kuja would join is cause of the name of the tribe 'Nine Snakes' and b'cause of the Risky Brothers comparing both Hancock and Mermaid Princess.. the latter just felt as a little forshadowing, but it could also be dreamin xD...
Oh well, Kanbare! :c
Anyways, I just feel that Margueritte is a girl who would follow Luffy.. or maybe got ordered by Hancock to do so... you never know with that obsessed empres :(
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So, you think that Oda isn't going to set up a hastened rush through the early portions of the NW?
Whatever happens none of us are going to be discussing it with you when it comes around!
Sorry new people, you just have to get used to JERK DISEASE being…well...a jerk. He gets away with it for some mystery reason.
Give me a ring when you contribute even an ounce of what I have to the forum.
Anyways, I just feel that Margueritte is a girl who would follow Luffy.. or maybe got ordered by Hancock to do so… you never know with that obsessed empres :(
Seriously, why the fuck do you think a completely cardboard nothing with boobs is going to join the main cast.
Like fucking honestly. Margritte is even more indefensible then fucking Perona.
I mean jesus man, get with the program and stop wasting time with meaningless crypto bullshit like "9 SNAKES, THE NUMBER NINE MANNN", and start paying attention to characterization and story patterns. -
I FiNd tHis JERK DISEASE pErson so aNnoYing. He cOnsTantly BreAks the rUle and inSuLts peOple. WHy haVeN't the mOds baNned hIm yeT?
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@TiT:
Did you chicken out?
You call yourself "team Zephos", then you better stick with your captain till the bitter end.
If you want to talk the talk, you got to walk the walk.
Calling me chicken? Really? You've seriously degraded yourself to schoolyard taunts?
But to reiterate, there have been far better posters than I who have continually broken your "logic". If they can't shut you up, I'm not even going to try to change your stupid opinion.
Just enjoy your time here for the next few weeks. Perona ain't coming. You shall see.
Oh and in case you have forgotten:
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Next week, when hopefully we will see Zoro alone, I'm buying the drinks guys.
No more AGOG.Ps : Insert pic "you're alredy dead".
Theories : Buggy will become a shichibukai just cuz of the Impel Down lvl 6 prisioners behind him, Moria is alive but in a coma, Ivankov will find Sabo in the New World as 1 of the Rev. Army commanders, next nakama is a fishman something like a Great White 
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@JERK:
Whatever happens none of us are going to be discussing it with you when it comes around!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Demescus/images-2.jpg
Give me a ring when you contribute even an ounce of what I have to the forum.
Seriously, why the fuck do you think a completely cardboard nothing with boobs is going to join the main cast.
Like fucking honestly. Margritte is even more indefensible then fucking Perona.
I mean jesus man, get with the program and stop wasting time with meaningless crypto bullshit like "9 SNAKES, THE NUMBER NINE MANNN", and start paying attention to characterization and story patterns.Funny how serious you took my post ):
Re-read it again and then post something again.
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Now, why Perona? Simply because even though her original role did expire, she returned in some kind of quasi-role for some reason… What's her new role? Unfinished, and unneeded... It's just a scam, I'd say. What for? Maybe build-up, maybe extending her towards the future, heck maybe even a small plot device. Nonetheless, there's really no point in having her appear and do the things her character had done. It's wasteful.
she's only shown up in a few pages but all thats focusing on is zoro i mean someone had to heal him i doubt it was gunna be mihawk or the baboons….
i mean
Now, why Perona? Hachi showing back should have been undeniable proof that he was going to become a nakama
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It would be an interesting compromise if Perona joined the Fake Strawhats.
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It would be an interesting compromise if Perona joined the Fake Strawhats.
Or Buggy's Band of Misfit Side Characters.
Or never to be seen again. Either or.
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It would be an interesting compromise if Perona joined the Fake Strawhats.
I would like this if I weren't confident that some Perona supporters would try and count is as a victory for them.
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Next week, when hopefully we will see Zoro alone, I'm buying the drinks guys.
No more AGOG.Ps : Insert pic "you're alredy dead".
I literally want to go drinking with yall over this.
Whose gonna be in Savannah nxt weeknd
1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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wE'Ve LOsT tHe CoUnT aLREadY.
Im tOrGo I WAtcH tHe pLAcE wHiLe tHe MaSter iS aWay
@JERK:I literally want to go drinking with yall over this.
Whose gonna be in Savannah nxt weeknd
I'll be there in spirit.
And by spirit, I mean "Send me pictures".
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We can all go to the local pub with our laptops and webcams and pretend we're drinking together.
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she's only shown up in a few pages but all thats focusing on is zoro i mean someone had to heal him i doubt it was gunna be mihawk or the baboons….
i mean
Now, why Perona? Hachi showing back should have been undeniable proof that he was going to become a nakama
Hachi's future role was told, immediately: hey, y'all! let's go and find the coating engineer and then let's have MY guiding skills lead you to FI!!
Perona, however, hasn't had any information told about what she is going to do or supposed to do. "Vacation?" I don't bite on that bait.
Wouldn't it have been a lot "smarter" for Oda to just let Zoro meet up with a character that actually KNOWS what medical procedures to take? Honestly, I'd think so… Perona's no doctor, and if anything, she's nothing at all like that. What use does she have concerning this? None. Therefore, why would Oda use her in this regard?
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Alright. I'll bite.
Perona's history is unknown. She's just got an epitaph that claims, "Ghost Princess." Is there anything that defines where she was born or anything that claims truth? No. It's a big unknown. There is leeway room for Oda to create a plot line that connects Perona to some island in the New World… Allowing him a chance to create a pace-breaker.
This is nothing but if's, might's, and maybe's. Nothing definitive. There's nothing in the story pointing to this. You're going of lack of knowledge to establish something in the story.
This is nothing but a possibility with a low probability.
What would Oda have to do to have the SH crew catch up? Speed up their pace, and advancement. How? Add a situation where they have to skip islands.
Utter nonsense. All of those pirates 2 years ahead and 10 years ahead are all stuck in the NW pussy footing around making alliances, giving up for other dreams or other treasurers, getting killed. The ONLY real threat is BB and Oda will pace his progress accordingly so that he doesn't just blow the SHs out of the water where they don't even have a chance.
I'm only using Perona as an example because she's the only character that currently has this situation open. Other than her, you'd have to basically rely on Lola's mom's vivre card… My opinion has always been that making the connection that Perona was a member of Kaidou's crew is a great way to speed up the pace. Rather than have the SH crew chase Crocodile, they'd chase a Yonkou-- same pace, same stuff... Only thing different is Oda would have to give Perona a deliberative backstory that pieces this all together.
This is poor reasoning AGOG. Oda doesn't need to quicken the pace so the SHs have to catch up and you're simply saying we don't know shit about Perona so why not use her in some way you have no idea he could to speed things up under the false sense of them being left behind.
Truth is, they won't be playing "rescue the princess/ fishman" from any character in FI, now will they? No. Those characters are bound to be distinctively from their islands, just like all other native cultures end up being. Then, they shouldn't have another conflict where they'll meet some girl on the first island they pick and then a quickened race starts. I'd end up completely repetitive.
Now, why Perona? Simply because even though her original role did expire, she returned in some kind of quasi-role for some reason… What's her new role? Unfinished, and unneeded... It's just a scam, I'd say. What for? Maybe build-up, maybe extending her towards the future, heck maybe even a small plot device. Nonetheless, there's really no point in having her appear and do the things her character had done. It's wasteful.
No No No... What I meant is to speed up the pace from [now] until the future… If you look at the logpose set time, in general, Oda has made some places take longer than a week and even one that took a year. We don't know how long Skypiea took, but it took a time as well. So, if Oda continues adding "times" to logposes, then the situation will be that every other character around the world will be waiting on the Strawhats.
Having Jinbei and the Mermaid Princess there won't instantly allow the SH crew to just bypass everything and quicken their pace into the NW, it just keeps them on Fishman Island. MP and Jinbei aren't going to have a super chase story about the same thing as Vivi, they'll meet and part at the same island.
The situation will still be that Luffy and crew has to rest on island A until Island C, with the same pace that the logpose tells him. Which is something that could go against Oda or help him--if he makes the times too short, then the other pirate crews lose value, but if he makes them longer, then the SH crews have to SKIP the logpose intervals in order to catch up with their rivals. Remember, the SH crew is fighting against time, not the world... They are the ones that are currently behind, not in front. They have to skip islands just to basically catch up.
Yes. I've been thinking about the bigger picture, the overall plot. Before, the other crews weren't ahead of the SH crew for two whole years... Now, they are behind the times and have to overcome that by skipping islands.
You may offer a better solution, but I honestly think that out of all of the current characters shown, Perona is the best to work with for this sort of set up.
It seems like the more the story continues you'll just keep changing this hollow idea you call a theory to have Perona fit in to it.
A bit character is going to join or play a larger role than previously just so the entire crew can catch up to the SNs from 2 years ago. sigh
Go write a fanfic AGOG.
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AGOG just doesn't give up.
Even when it's impossible, he still goes on and on.
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@JERK:
I literally want to go drinking with yall over this.
Whose gonna be in Savannah nxt weeknd
Only if you know good songs to sing while plastered.
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why would Oda use her in this regard?
For comical purposes, It wouldn't be the first time Oda did something for the lulz (I.E. Sanji's wanted poster, aka the gag that keeps on giving).
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Thank god hancock was knocked out
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Thank god hancock was knocked out
She is hiding in his backpack. :ninja:
More persistent than Perona supporters.
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Do you think any of the new super rookies might apply to become part of the crew with the really SH crew, when luffy kicks the ass of fake luffy?
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Thank god hancock was knocked out
I was expecting to see discussion of her being knocked out in this thread, but I got AGOG instead…
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Only if you know good songs to sing while plastered.
Go. Take some picture of you guys and post it somewhere.
