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**Eiichiro Oda
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Who knew that Shanks tearing off Kidd's arm would be somehow beneficial to him.
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**Eiichiro Oda
I underestimated the anime Uma Musume. It has so much respect for the horses. This longtime horse racing fan is moved to tears!**
Not you too Oda.
Cool chapter! Killer surely delivered during the Wano Arc. Excited to see more from his captain.
I thought the stolen fire/prometheus bit was a fun little nod.
The whole Killer fight was great, given good time, looked pretty as can be, some thought put into the end. The only thing that irks me is that Kidds sidekick rated this, but you know who couldn't even get a third off this effort put into his "fight"
Killer has been a surprising delight this arc
I thought the stolen fire/prometheus bit was a fun little nod.
The whole Killer fight was great, given good time, looked pretty as can be, some thought put into the end. The only thing that irks me is that Kidds sidekick rated this, but you know who couldn't even get a third off this effort put into his "fight"
Jack was cheated. It's so weird that Raizo and Killer have more focus than Jack. It's a weird choice.
#Vergoshotfirst #Doflaisapunk
Quite enjoyed the chapter.
I enjoy Sanji having some conflict about his transformation. If we gonna do this lets mine some nice drama out of it first. Am I the only one that was puzzled about how people keep talking about Saji breaking the sword with his neck when his face is the part caved in? clearly that was his face not his neck. Stop saying neck.
The fight had some nice moment. Law so much more of a dynamic fighter then Kidd and him doing the electric attack at Big mom is cool. And big mom doing that cool flip to maximize power is pretty great. I wish she would be allowed the impact she should. Cause that attack should have messed up kidd quite a bit.
Pillar headbutting is silly but I like the idea of the sadic Hawkins. His internalize doubt that Killer points out. And him getting his arm cut off was an image I didnt expect in full display (I thought he would attack the arm not cut it completely).
I dont care about the relation between Killer and Kidd but Killer telling his friend to go forward is a pretty dope line. Give me shades of Zoro/Sanji blocking the goons behind Luffy when he was about to attack Hody.
I am sure once BM betrays Kaido Jack and Smoothie will have a fight for the ages.
Who knew that Shanks tearing off Kidd's arm would be somehow beneficial to him
Good guy Shanks. I guess he knows a thing or two about losing an arm.
Killer has been a surprising delight this arc
I think what helped was the strength of bond/relationship between Kidd and Killer. It's also what draws the reader to SHs, their relationships. Sometihing I hope oda shows more now that he's developed the main players who aren't SHs and giving them backgrounds.
Very surprised Killer vs. Hawkins got this much attention, it was a good fight and added some depth to both characters, but it seems like an odd area to focus on compared to some of the other fights that have been sidelined.
Also glad to see Sanji still conflicted, hope it leads to something.
I was already a fan of WCI, but seeing these long-term developments for Sanji make that arc feel even more worth it. Love to see this struggle as well as the power up.
Hawkins vs Killer was well done. Not a fight I was excited about, one that I wouldn't really care to see offscreened, but I'm glad that Oda gave a satisfactory resolution to this conflict. Great visuals too.
Overall, this chapter was great. Have to say that the official translation felt a little awkward to me in some places, but it's alright.
That was a good fight. I still don't see what Kidd will be able to do against Big Mom, unless he suddenly learned advanced haki and figured out how to weaponize conquerer's haki like the big guys.
I like Sanjis new powerup and how worried he is about losing his humanity.
This will be good for him going forward, it's gonna take him to a new level.
That was a good fight. I still don't see what Kidd will be able to do against Big Mom, unless he suddenly learned advanced haki and figured out how to weaponize conquerer's haki like the big guys.
Yeah, this shows how big the impact of haki on One Piece has been. After the time skip, if you don't have haki you suck, and if you have haki but not advanced haki, you suck less but you still suck. Over the years, villains and good guys have shown a variety of styles and techniques, but now there's much less room for that because haki counters everything, especially "broken" powers like Law's chambres (but curiously, not Hawkin's dolls).
Honestly, I would be more than happy if Oda backtracked on this and made Kid win by evolving his magnetic powers.
For similar reasons, even though I don't like Sanji's new Germa body particularly, I am relieved his confrontation with Queen won't be won by haki alone.
NOT EVEN CLOSE, SIR!
That was a good fight. I still don't see what Kidd will be able to do against Big Mom, unless he suddenly learned advanced haki and figured out how to weaponize conquerer's haki like the big guys.
I like Sanjis new powerup and how worried he is about losing his humanity.
This will be good for him going forward, it's gonna take him to a new level.
Yeah, this shows how big the impact of haki on One Piece has been. After the time skip, if you don't have haki you suck, and if you have haki but not advanced haki, you suck less but you still suck. Over the years, villains and good guys have shown a variety of styles and techniques, but now there's much less room for that because haki counters everything, especially "broken" powers like Law's chambres (but curiously, not Hawkin's dolls).
Honestly, I would be more than happy if Oda backtracked on this and made Kid win by evolving his magnetic powers.
For similar reasons, even though I don't like Sanji's new Germa body particularly, I am relieved his confrontation with Queen won't be won by haki alone.
We've already seen an example of how they might when he worked with Law to push her off of the skull roof. If the answer ends up being haki, fine, but I don't get this particular complaint in this context when we've already been given one sort of answer.
Okay trying to put myself in the brilliant mind of Kidd i have now deduced that his hidden ace will be the trojan fist! A seemingly innocent mega death fist, but inside is even more fists. These fists are also mega death fists, but smaller, medium death fists. But there are a lot of them. I'll accept the noble prize for most likely manga theory now.
nah, Kidd will awaken his DF and go full Magneto
Oh, it's good to be back! The last chapter felt like it ended kind of in the middle of Sanji's scene, not quite feeling like a natural break point, so it's good to go straight back into it for this one. I appreciate that Sanji's negative reaction to his new powers stems from a fear that he'll lose his emotions the way his brothers did. Getting anxious about turning into someone else or losing your humanity is a much more existential angle than "I don't want these cool superpowers because they have my dad's cooties on them" and I'm legitimately curious to see the development of it. I hope this is the new Sanji angle I've been wanting for years now.
Seeing Big Mom in action here really emphasises how downplayed she's been as a fighter. Whole Cake Island was mostly running away and the rooftop brawl was decidedly Kaido-centric, but she's turning out to be great in a stand-and-fight battle. I love the unhinged look on her face, and the way her poses show momentum and impact despite her rotund, seemingly inflexible figure. If she's to go down here, there better be a few scenes of fighting left. It makes you wonder what could have been if Oda had decided give a chapter or two to Luffy's attempt to fight her at the wedding, rather than letting him throw one punch before the retreat.
I feel Killer is somewhat slept on by the fanbase, even after holding his own among the monsters on the roof, but this chapter makes it clear that Oda's got a whole lot more affection for the guy than us readers ever expected. His fast, acrobatic fighting style makes for some incredibly dynamic panels.
It's perhaps a little odd that Hawkins took damage when Zoro attacked his strawman at the start of this arc but is unaffected by Killer's beheading of it now. But since it was powered by different cards each time, I guess there'll be a copout SBS explanation about the Heirophant transferring damage to the user while Death does not, or only reversed taking damage if the card is reversed or something equally contrived. Takedowns in Wano have been unexpectedly but pleasingly brutal. Hawkins joins the ranks of Who's Who and Black Maria in suffering violent finshers, but taking it to the next level with some permanent disfigurement in at least his lost arm, if not also his slashed-up face. The visual of the deck scattering around him is an obvious end point to a character who uses cards to fight, but damned if it doesn't look great every time. Hawkins' role in the story ends a little flat. He's a character with some great visual design - especially his final scarecrow form, but very little of note in the personality department. I wonder if we'll ever get back to the man with a 1% chance of survival…
With Kid and Law now ready to fight Big Mom properly, the final stage of the battle draws ever closer. I think we might get one or two pages of their fight with her next week to make it clear Kid's a force to reckon with now that he's not hobbled, but then we need to cut away to deal with the last of the scrubs like Apoo, Orochi and Fukurokuju. I still think it's likely we'll be down to just Big Mom and Kaido as enemies before the end of this volume, but Oda definitely needs to keep his foot on the gas if things are going to reach a conclusion that feels decently paced.
Killer was always more cooler than than the other worst generationials. Except Zoro and Urouge of course. Kaido crippled him, but holy shit, after that it's just magic.
With Queen's repetitive insistence, those MAD scientists must've been really secretive about their individual work.
Do the official translators read the scans from the chapter that leaks and purposely translate to English differently?
Yeah, I have the same feeling about the translation. Target sounds way more natural than conduit. His name is Killer, not Killua. No need for fancy lingua.
“As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon
@Zik:
With Queen's repetitive insistence, those MAD scientists must've been really secretive about their individual work.
Do the official translators read the scans from the chapter that leaks and purposely translate to English differently?
The official translation is basically done before the spoilers even come out. Steven is either currently translating 1030 or has already finished it.
#Vergoshotfirst #Doflaisapunk
Sanji ran away… eh so it is for his frightening Raid Suit battle to be not seen by anyone else?
Killer's fight is so dynamic with good angles, it's good! Now, compare that with what Nami and Usopp did, or even Jack. Kinda sad.
I said it in the spoiler thread and I will say it again: Big Mom will fall here.
No matter if there is an Elbaf arc after this or what, her role as a villain will end on Wano. This chapter made sure of that, with the Tower from Hawkins' destiny draw (heh).
I gotta say, it's been a while since any character improved my opinion of them so much in single chapter as Killer did this week.
Not that I disliked him before, but he was one of the least interesting supernovas, which are an amazing group on average. But this chapter really sold him as a worthy counterpart to Zoro in the "new generation first mate" business. Both because of the "please take me in my captain's place" moment and the arm cutting thing.
All more impressive because this is the supernova that Oda allegedly half-assed when he created him, and ended up being one of the more fleshed out members of the group.
Oda, please please please don’t get addicted to gacha mobage. Please.
One Piece already has so many breaks as it is. Oda. Fuck.
Yeah, I have the same feeling about the translation. Target sounds way more natural than conduit. His name is Killer, not Killua. No need for fancy lingua.
I'm confused, did someone use the word "target" in the place of "conduit?" These words are not alike at all and conduit is perfect in this situation considering the spiritualist/psychic connotations of Hawkins powers.
I mean in a sense, he'll probably unleash the evolved form of the punchy fist.
Bigger, more aerodynamic and with flashy cool flames painted on the side.
Funny thing I can actually see this happening, I was personally picturing him creating a giant hand that covers pic mom head and giving her a WWE under taker slam to the ground
This chapter felt like a classic One Piece chapter from start to finish and I enjoyed every second of it. Don't remember the last time a OP chapter could get such a reaction out if me.
I really happy that Sanji is making such a big deal out of this because the possibility to lose his emotions is a very valid assumption here.
As far as the Killer vs Hawkins fight is concerned, I absolutely loved it. I said often that I prefer story over fights but when the time for fights arrives I don't want Oda to just skim over them. And for side characters I don't even need a full chapter of actual fighting. Half is enough if the confrontation itself and the actual moves use the screen time wisely to show more then a generic move or one big named attack. The Ace vs Teach aswell as the Law vs Smoker fights were good on that front. And this one was good too. Really, I can't stress enough how much I liked the chapter this time around.^^
Sanji is going to go from being a sentai to being the Guyver.
Jack was cheated. It's so weird that Raizo and Killer have more focus than Jack. It's a weird choice.
I expect Jack to get back up as this arc fighting closes and Luffy smacking him a one good hit as he said he will on Zou ;) Sending him flying into the sea again.
Point of Jacks character is possibly that even though he is really evil and sadistic very strong villain he always looses. Its cartoony and in contrast with what he is capable of doing to others but Oda seems to be going for it every time for Jack. Like R team from Pokemon loosing every episode and returning for one more L all the time.
Commenting on the last two chapters… I can't say I'm fond of this direction for Sanji's character. I can get the excitement behind it but the whole charm of his backstory in WCI was that this regular human kid managed to stand up to his family and become strong on his own. While not nearly as bad, it's giving me eerily similar vibes to when Naruto threw out the idea that hard work could overcome raw talent.
On the upside I loved the second half of this chapter. By now the supernovas have become my favourite cast in the series, even outclassing the Strawhats. Killer is definitely the surprise standout of Wano, every appearance has been enjoyable and felt like it fleshed out a character who by all logic should've remained a one-note background guy. He's like the anti-Bellamy, I expected nothing and got everything I didn't know I wanted.
Don’t care for killer, don’t care for Kidd,
Don’t care for rivalry that Oda’s pushed in.
I’ve been glad that Kidd haven’t had any highlights,
Hope the keep it that wayyyyyy
It’s the power of Luff
Btw, Killer's acrobatic fighting style is pretty cool. It makes for some amazing panels.
NOT EVEN CLOSE, SIR!
Btw, Killer's acrobatic fighting style is pretty cool. It makes for some amazing panels.
Yes.
And that's one of the reasons I wanted Carrot to join, because she also fights doing aerial acrobatics like mid-air double jumps and spins. Really good for coreographies.
Oh, and forgot to say that Hawkins giving Kid a headache by banging his head against the wall is bloody hilarious.
I love Hawkins vs Killer so much.
So killer spins his blades and then spins his own body as well to get some sort of momentum boost to his slashes?
The question is will Oda bump up Kidd to advanced CoC during this fight with Big Mom?. Most of the chapter was about giving Kidd importance. Oda has pushed a rivalry with Luffy in this arc and has shown many panels about it thou some also includes Law. Luffy has been bumped up, and I’m very happy about it, but he got trained and Kidd was not.
I don’t think Oda will put Kidd on equal level to Luffy in this battle but maybe give Kidd a couple of CoC hits vs Big Mon in which he doesn’t know how to control it and it comes and goes away, will that be how this fight will go?.
Do we think Kidd can really take on Big Mom? What kind of power up would let him beat her? Maybe the same Conqueror’s haki coating Luffy has? And what kind of bounty increases will he get if he does?
I think he’ll beat her because what’s the entire point of the whole Tower Card and that last page set up if not?
I mean there's no reason to forget Law is there.
I just don't see Kid doing it by himself. Law has remained solid and can be a great partner if one guy is taking the brunt of the beating. Just going back to his fight with Doffy he can last pretty long in a fight and has a bunch of deadly attacks.
I don't think they'll defeat Big Mom. At best stalemate or interruption that sidelines BM or changes her priorities but if in the off chance they do I think it'd have to parallel something like Rocks vs Garp and Roger even though that was a bunch of D.s fighting.
@Zik:
I mean there's no reason to forget Law is there.
I just don't see Kid doing it by himself. Law has remained solid and can be a great partner if one guy is taking the brunt of the beating. Just going back to his fight with Doffy he can last pretty long in a fight and has a bunch of deadly attacks.
I don't think they'll defeat Big Mom. At best stalemate or interruption that sidelines BM or changes her priorities but if in the off chance they do I think it'd have to parallel something like Rocks vs Garp and Roger even though that was a bunch of D.s fighting.
Many of us don’t want big mom to go down here and hopefully that will be the case but you got to admit, Oda is setting up Kidd for some highlights. How big those highlights will be, who knows, but the set up is there. What do you think of Hawkings card in relation to both emperors?
If Oda really intends to keep Kid and Law relevant as worthy rivals for Luffy then there's no way that the two of them combined will not take her out while Luffy by himself will take down Kaido. Also it is the perfect cop out for Luffy ones again avoiding a direct fight with the female representative of a big antagonist group.
Many of us don’t want big mom to go down here and hopefully that will be the case but you got to admit, Oda is setting up Kidd for some highlights. How big those highlights will be, who knows, but the set up is there. What do you think of Hawkings card in relation to both emperors?
I think Oda is just recognizing his lack of attention to Kid among the supernova especially when he is suppose to be one of two main rivals to Luffy from that group but it seems that Kid basically had the fate Luffy would've had he not stopped to train for 2 years having learned his lesson from Saboady and failing to save Ace; Kid basically got his ass kicked all over the New World with some minor victories and then got betrayed.
I think the first showing of that is the strawhat level showing of Killer in this recent chapter. It's quite the leap in character building and hyping the character up.
I think Kid may get some sort of power up Enies Lobby style and beat up Big Mom a bit but not definitely beat her even with Law fighting with him.
Kid will get his focus and spotlight but I think it's just a start as to establish how Oda will use him in the future.
I had several interpretations of the tower card in the spoiler thread and after reading the leak chapter and official I see it as the typical outcome we all knew was going to happen. Hawkins was extremely reliant on his tarot reading and percentages of the alliance's chances against Kaido. Oda would lap back to it more than once. So it was only a matter of time that when going back again Hawkins would be shocked to see how things took a 180 and now he's on the losing side.
I think the card just points to Kaido's downfall mainly. The theme of the old generation falling to the new has been stressed aplenty but I don't think the theme just ends with this saga. Kid and Law will play their part in beating up Big Mom but I cant see her dying here or beaten to the point she's unconscious.
I have dabbled with the new notion (not yet a theory) that Kid will kill Kaido after Luffy beats him. Making that tower card have significance to several key characters.
Really an enjoyable chapter!
As for Big Mom, I'm fine with any possibly outcome of the fight. However, I just hope that we won't get a result until after Kaido is down.
This was the best chapter in a while. I really like what Oda did to Killer over the course of Wano, and to me this the benchmark I expect for him when dealing with secondary characters.
However, despite how much I enjoyed this chapter on its own, I find myself more and more tired of Wano. Maybe I overhyped myself with expectations, but 2021 has been so… unsatisfying...? so far. We started the year with chapter 1,000 and I expected a rollercoaster after that, and yet I feel this ride hasn't gotten any high highs nor steep drops, nor has gotten the speed I was hoping for. The best moments are probably still ahead, but patiently waiting for them hasn't paid off yet.
About Big Mom falling, I always expected her to fall in Wano, so if she's defeated it's no surprise. I don't think she needs to be in Elbaf for her presence to be felt, just like we don't need Whitebeard nor Ace alive in order for them to still move the plot.
What I'm dreading, however, is that Big Mom will fall as a "lesser" threat rather than Kaido's equal. I find her a far better villain than Kaido, and she was incredibly threatening in WCI, but here she's just there for being there. I was expecting her role would grow way further as the arc progressed, and I'm still hoping for it (I'm looking at you, Act 4), but those expectations seem less likely to be fulfilled with each chapter, which just diminishes my enthusiasm for the conclusion of the arc.
Another random thought. Does anybody think, like I do, that it's strange that Killer understands the weaknesses of Hawkin's fruit better than Hawkins himself?
Hawkins seemed to be genuinely shocked when he lost his arm: but he knew very well Kidd had already lost his arm. He should have seen it coming.
Honestly, with Hawkins we have reached a new and unexplored level of incompetence.
NOT EVEN CLOSE, SIR!
Another random thought. Does anybody think, like I do, that it's strange that Killer understands the weaknesses of Hawkin's fruit better than Hawkins himself?
Hawkins seemed to be genuinely shocked when he lost his arm: but he knew very well Kidd had already lost his arm. He should have seen it coming.Honestly, with Hawkins we have reached a new and unexplored level of incompetence.
That's not how it was written. Killer didn't know anything, he was gambling since it was his only chance. As for Hawkins, he had completely forgotten about Kid's arm. This fact just doesn't come up very often for him.
That's not how it was written. Killer didn't know anything, he was gambling since it was his only chance. As for Hawkins, he had completely forgotten about Kid's arm. This fact just doesn't come up very often for him.
I didn't literally mean Killer "knew". But he figured it out.
Hawkins, on the other hand, just forgot about Kidd's arm? That's one hell of a forgetfulness…
NOT EVEN CLOSE, SIR!
I didn't literally mean Killer "knew". But he figured it out.
Hawkins, on the other hand, just forgot about Kidd's arm? That's one hell of a forgetfulness…
Killer knows Kid better than Hawkins does. Hawkins forgot a detail because of overconfidence. Killer had over 90% chance of losing. Why would Hawkins worry? Victory was his from the start!
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
