@Eat:
The only thing that's gonna bother me if they really do abolish the Shichibukai system now is Buggy's situation. I mean, his time to shine finally came and then BAM! F**k you, you stupid red nosed pirate!
I really like Buggy…
lol well that would be fitting for buggy. seems like that kind of stuff always happens to him
He was going to corner him either with Kaidou or Fujitora. This is why he gave Smoker that Green Bit tip.
Then Doula pulled that newspaper trick. Did you really forget all that?
I didn't consider an admiral to be instantly there as soon as a warlord resigns. Cause the new world is full of strong pirates who are as troublesome or even more to the WG and the marines.
If you want a reason then let him come late because of big mom or kaidou or the kidds alliance. I'm sure Oda can make it work.
What? They knew about Luffy and Law through Smoker's report and Doula through the newspaper. No need for eyes everywhere.
Really, they had everything they needed to start the investigation on the alliance and Doula. Why would they not do anything?
Smokers report and a trillion other things to make fuji appear at dressrosa is the Odas setup for him to be there. So if the outcome is Fuji arriving late at dressrosa or not then the setup will be different.
How do you know this? He might not appear until the Reverie.
And until then, establishing all those things is important. And what a better situation than in the face of the Warlord that abused his status the most?
You have a point with doffy being the warlord who abused his status the most. So you're aknowledging the awful things of doffys reign yet you're ok with a setup that completely ties an admiral hands. If he wasn't there then he can appear when the birdcage goes down and still bow down to riku in order to piss off the wg, akainu etc… The end result is the same . The world knows only about fuji and the marines bowing down apologizing. They don't know fuji was there before the birdcage went down.
The interaction with Doula gave us his goal, for starters.
Also, we know he trusts Luffy because of the bar scene, even betting on him. More insight on his tendency to gamble even with people.
Well i tell you that all that is not sooo important now we can learn about that later if that doesn't involve fuji gambling with 1000 lives.
@Jazzy:
They're not going to abolish the Warlords at this time. We don't even know who the mysterious seventh one is yet. It would be really dumb if one of the three great powers was able to be abolished over one incident, no matter how big.
This is just the groundwork for shit that's going to happen at the end of the series.
The first half of the Grandline was more of understanding the WG, who's in it, and what they have done and were a part of.
They're obviously hiding something, and that's when the new world comes in. Every detail is going to set up for the time in which everyone realises that the WG is the problem.
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They don't know fuji was there before the birdcage went down.
Fujitora was in contact with Akainu whilst on Green Bit. Unless he can argue that Greenbit is separate to Dressrosa.
However, Fujitora had a fight with Sabo and I think it was on purpose to show that Fujitora didn't do nothing.
I didn't consider an admiral to be instantly there as soon as a warlord resigns. Cause the new world is full of strong pirates who are as troublesome or even more to the WG and the marines.
If you want a reason then let him come late because of big mom or kaidou or the kidds alliance. I'm sure Oda can make it work.Smokers report and a trillion other things to make fuji appear at dressrosa is the Odas setup for him to be there. So if the outcome is Fuji arriving late at dressrosa or not then the setup will be different.
You have a point with doffy being the warlord who abused his status the most. So you're aknowledging the awful things of doffys reign yet you're ok with a setup that completely ties an admiral hands. If he wasn't there then he can appear when the birdcage goes down and still bow down to riku in order to piss off the wg, akainu etc… The end result is the same . The world knows only about fuji and the marines bowing down apologizing. They don't know fuji was there before the birdcage went down.
Well i tell you that all that is not sooo important now we can learn about that later if that doesn't involve fuji gambling with 1000 lives.
The setup that actually happened at least gave us an excuse for the Marines' incompetence.
Your setup ideas just makes the Marines look incompetent without an excuse.
"Look, the newspaper just said that Doula, the guy that's been chased by the Celestial Dragons since childhood, resigned his Warlord status." "Whatever, we think about him later."
Literally, there was no reason for an Admiral not to be there immediately. Doula is not just a Warlord, but also a king of a nation, a former Celestial Dragon and an important underworld figure. He blackmailed the WG in order to obtain a Warlord status, had insiders in the Marines and was being hunted by Vice-Admirals 15 years ago. This guy is as troublesome as one can get.
Also, Fuji's plan required him to meet someone like Luffy, so he would have someone to trust to take Doula down. That again would be impossible if he had been late. He couldn't just go there and bow down if he didn't know what was going on. He needed insight on the situation.
None of your ideas are actually plausible now that we know what was up with Fuji. His plan is going to be important for future events, so he was required to be there.
I still don't get it why Doflamingo was introduced so early in the manga, his introduction is almost as old as Blackbeard's introduction.( even was in 5 arcs, was he?) He's not even the main warlord villain, The new warlord could be even be better. It's clear the yonkous are the main villains( except Shanks) in the new world along with admirals but DD's hype was just crazy.
Unless he will be a very important ally in the future( not just in the kaidou arc), all the hype he got over the years doesn't look justified.
@uniaka:
I still don't get it why Doflamingo was introduced so early in the manga, his introduction is almost as old as Blackbeard's introduction.( even was in 5 arcs, was he?) He's not even the main warlord villain, The new warlord could be even be better. It's clear the yonkous are the main villains( except Shanks) in the new world along with admirals but DD's hype was just crazy.
Unless he will be a very important ally in the future( not just in the kaidou arc), all the hype he got over the years doesn't look justified.
If you look at Doflamingo in just the perspective of overall strength, then he does look a little bad. Though I always question the hype that was gathered around him. At most I was interested in who he was and what role he would play, but I never got so hyped that I believed he would be one of the greatest forces ever faced. In earlier parts, we learned he was one of the strongest, or at least had the greatest bounties at the time. We had a hint to his power as well. Later we learned he had dealings in the slave trade. Then during the war, we saw the side of him when it came to fighting, where he gets into it and just has fun with it. There was some other things here and there, but nothing screaming out to me. Black Beard has had much more hype from the few things he has done.
That said, we have to look at Doflamingo less through the idea of strength, but more of relevance of the overall story. He's always been shown before now to be part of some kind of business. He was one of the few Warlords actively going to the various meetings with the Marines. We know Kuma went because of his background, and Mihawk only went because of Zoro. After the war, we see Doflamingo telling that one Marine to shut up, threatening him that he would leave and not care. From there, we can see that he had quite a bit of dealings with the WG, which in this arc we can see why he would keep a close relationship with them. His status his based on information he knows, and his presence can be there to remind them of that fact. This one piece of information will determine his fate after this arc.
After learning about his dealing with the slave trade, we later learned about him having a whole underground trade, dealing in weapons of various kinds as well as smiles. He also had a hold over a kingdom, and held other information pertinent for other parties. With him now down, all the trade is gone and open to the public. Kaido no longer has smiles coming to him, which seems vital to him being an Emperor. Their are groups that seemed to rely on weapons being distributed for who knows what reasons (we know for a fact Kidd had dealings with him, and that will come in play). We also know that many wars against countries have been continued by Doflamingo supplying both sides. For good or bad, everyone will be thanking/blaming the Luffy/Law alliance for what happened.
Last but not least, we have what is the start of a shift in the WG, which is the foundation of abolishing the Shikibukai, but also the WG image falling apart. All the others before were covered up and deemed inconvenient at most. With Doflamingo dabbling in all these practices, which was possible due to his position, questions can now arise about if the position is a good thing. Unlike others which were doing their own thing, Doflamingo was doing many things that would go against the WG. That would be bad enough, but we have something that will shake things up more, and that's this incident not being covered up, along with the events being amplified by Fujitora's theatrics. Citizens are going to start questioning the WG, which can help the Revolutionaries cause. Then there's the Marines, which will eventually start being fractured by people of certain beliefs not wanting anything to do with a government they deem corrupt.
In the end, Doflamingo's hype was less about strength, and more about his role in the overall story and plot. Even then, one can argue that he was still impressive. He took a number of hits from Luffy and Law, and was able to fight quite well after taking the Gamma Knife. After that, he still had to force Luffy to show his new gear. He took a number of hits and was able to keep going, and it took a King Kong Punch to finish him, which by all means should've killed him. I know some wanted more from the fight, and even I felt it could've been better, but if you look at it from a story perspective, I think it worked out very well in the end.
@uniaka:
I still don't get it why Doflamingo was introduced so early in the manga, his introduction is almost as old as Blackbeard's introduction.( even was in 5 arcs, was he?) He's not even the main warlord villain, The new warlord could be even be better. It's clear the yonkous are the main villains( except Shanks) in the new world along with admirals but DD's hype was just crazy.
Unless he will be a very important ally in the future( not just in the kaidou arc), all the hype he got over the years doesn't look justified.
You think he's going to become an ally?
The setup that actually happened at least gave us an excuse for the Marines' incompetence.
No. The setup made fujitora present at dressrosa. It's not the excuse. The excuse for fujitoras "inaction" is what he did this chapter.
Your setup ideas just makes the Marines look incompetent without an excuse.
Your assumption there.
"Look, the newspaper just said that Doula, the guy that's been chased by the Celestial Dragons since childhood, resigned his Warlord status." "Whatever, we think about him later."
i recall mentioning him getting there but being too late. It would have made sense if smoker had to report back and fuji wasn't magically near to dressrosa but had to travel there first.
Literally, there was no reason for an Admiral not to be there immediately. Doula is not just a Warlord, but also a king of a nation, a former Celestial Dragon and an important underworld figure. He blackmailed the WG in order to obtain a Warlord status, had insiders in the Marines and was being hunted by Vice-Admirals 15 years ago. This guy is as troublesome as one can get.
And yet the marines needed aokiji to inform them indirectly through smoker of the importance of q
what will happen in dressrosa. Doesn't credit their competence does it¿
Also, Fuji's plan required him to meet someone like Luffy, so he would have someone to trust to take Doula down. That again would be impossible if he had been late. He couldn't just go there and bow down if he didn't know what was going on. He needed insight on the situation.
How cool is that luffy had the plot luck to be the one fujitora was gambling on. God help us if he failed against doffy. Those poor citizens would have been dead even even if fuji could have stopped doffy because of you know… the whole pushing thing..... Your luck that it didn't happen.
None of your ideas are actually plausible now that we know what was up with Fuji. His plan is going to be important for future events, so he was required to be there.
Yeah and those future events need to have fujitora doing what he does now. It can't happen later in the next arc. Or the next one.
But do you aknowledge that fujis bowing would have also worked if he entered dressrosa just after the birdcage went down and broadcasted it¿
You think he's going to become an ally?
Seeing Croc saving Luffy and Ace just because he felt to, kinda gives you that feeling. Apart from BB, in a confrontation vs the Marines even the filthiest pirate scum and surprisingly Shichibukais seem to ally with Luffy.
Doffy murdered his own father and his own brother. It has been made explicit that luffy can't ally with someone like that. Plus he owned the whole slave trading houses. Yeah he was on another level as king croc
I said ally because what other important role could he have in the future? Arc villain again? If he plays a role at all. An if someone doesn't hurry to rescue him, looks like Impel down will be his home from now on, unless he breaks out like Shiki or the incident 2 years ago.
@The:
If you look at Doflamingo in just the perspective of overall strength, then he does look a little bad. Though I always question the hype that was gathered around him. At most I was interested in who he was and what role he would play, but I never got so hyped that I believed he would be one of the greatest forces ever faced. In earlier parts, we learned he was one of the strongest, or at least had the greatest bounties at the time. We had a hint to his power as well. Later we learned he had dealings in the slave trade. Then during the war, we saw the side of him when it came to fighting, where he gets into it and just has fun with it. There was some other things here and there, but nothing screaming out to me. Black Beard has had much more hype from the few things he has done.
That said, we have to look at Doflamingo less through the idea of strength, but more of relevance of the overall story. He's always been shown before now to be part of some kind of business. He was one of the few Warlords actively going to the various meetings with the Marines. We know Kuma went because of his background, and Mihawk only went because of Zoro. After the war, we see Doflamingo telling that one Marine to shut up, threatening him that he would leave and not care. From there, we can see that he had quite a bit of dealings with the WG, which in this arc we can see why he would keep a close relationship with them. His status his based on information he knows, and his presence can be there to remind them of that fact. This one piece of information will determine his fate after this arc.
After learning about his dealing with the slave trade, we later learned about him having a whole underground trade, dealing in weapons of various kinds as well as smiles. He also had a hold over a kingdom, and held other information pertinent for other parties. With him now down, all the trade is gone and open to the public. Kaido no longer has smiles coming to him, which seems vital to him being an Emperor. Their are groups that seemed to rely on weapons being distributed for who knows what reasons (we know for a fact Kidd had dealings with him, and that will come in play). We also know that many wars against countries have been continued by Doflamingo supplying both sides. For good or bad, everyone will be thanking/blaming the Luffy/Law alliance for what happened.
Last but not least, we have what is the start of a shift in the WG, which is the foundation of abolishing the Shikibukai, but also the WG image falling apart. All the others before were covered up and deemed inconvenient at most. With Doflamingo dabbling in all these practices, which was possible due to his position, questions can now arise about if the position is a good thing. Unlike others which were doing their own thing, Doflamingo was doing many things that would go against the WG. That would be bad enough, but we have something that will shake things up more, and that's this incident not being covered up, along with the events being amplified by Fujitora's theatrics. Citizens are going to start questioning the WG, which can help the Revolutionaries cause. Then there's the Marines, which will eventually start being fractured by people of certain beliefs not wanting anything to do with a government they deem corrupt.
In the end, Doflamingo's hype was less about strength, and more about his role in the overall story and plot. Even then, one can argue that he was still impressive. He took a number of hits from Luffy and Law, and was able to fight quite well after taking the Gamma Knife. After that, he still had to force Luffy to show his new gear. He took a number of hits and was able to keep going, and it took a King Kong Punch to finish him, which by all means should've killed him. I know some wanted more from the fight, and even I felt it could've been better, but if you look at it from a story perspective, I think it worked out very well in the end.
say what, Kid, relied on weapon trafficking? Thought he told killer on punk hazard, he is not interested but knowing about them won't hurt. Did i miss something?
How fujitura become admiral where was he before time skip is still unsolved
I will say this chapter did quell some of my concerns with Fujitora. It's interesting to see the risk that this "gamble" carried. If Doflamingo had managed to kill Luffy during battle, we can assume that at that point Fujitora might have stepped in to finish him off. However if he had managed to kill Luffy right before the King Kong Gun, there is no way Fujitora would have been able to reach Doffy and take him out without many casualties. However I guess that's all it was to him, a gamble.
You think he's going to become an ally?
Maybe not an ally as in "fighting side by side against a common enemy". However there still are blanks in Doflamingo's past and what secrets of the WG/CD he holds, which when (and if) revealed might confer to Doffy a great weight in the course of events. Shall this situation arise, it would be very much like Luffy to disregard what the whole world may think and take him onboard the Sunny (cue Swirlyhats + Usop in terror and a hurried leave from Dressrosa with the Marines, pirates, etc. on their tail)
Burgess being all scummy and asshole to Sabo… love it.
@The:
In the end, Doflamingo's hype was less about strength, and more about his role in the overall story and plot.
Agreed, and I hope we get more of that through further exploration of his knowledge of the secret of Mariejois.
I agree aswell. He is still a monster in term of power though.
I agree aswell. He is still a monster in term of power though.
Yet we didn't get a full explanation on his powers particularly parasite strings and how it works (why he didn't use it earlier). Now we know you can rip them off your body at least.
Your assumption there.
I've already pointed out several problems that you don't bother justifying.
It's not an assumption. An island was confirmed to have two Warlords and one of them had just resigned. You really think not sending an Admiral there immediately would be something smart to do?
i recall mentioning him getting there but being too late. It would have made sense if smoker had to report back and fuji wasn't magically near to dressrosa but had to travel there first.
Fuji can make ships float. Travelling is not a problem for him. Also, Marine Admirals tend to stay at Marineford when not on missions, so it's not like he was near.
Also, the report had arrived a day prior. The Marines had plenty of time to do something about it.
And yet the marines needed aokiji to inform them indirectly through smoker of the importance of q
what will happen in dressrosa. Doesn't credit their competence does it¿
That has nothing to do with my argument.
In fact, Aokiji knowing all that means that the top brass of the Marines were all aware of Doula's activities. You can't compare the top Marines of Marineford with the rejects of G-5.
How cool is that luffy had the plot luck to be the one fujitora was gambling on. God help us if he failed against doffy. Those poor citizens would have been dead even even if fuji could have stopped doffy because of you know… the whole pushing thing..... Your luck that it didn't happen.
He needed someone to take the credit for Doula's defeat, or else his plan would not have come to fruition.
Had he not met Luffy, he probably wouldn't have devised this plan.
Yeah and those future events need to have fujitora doing what he does now. It can't happen later in the next arc. Or the next one.
But do you aknowledge that fujis bowing would have also worked if he entered dressrosa just after the birdcage went down and broadcasted it¿
Your "alternative" scenarios are not better. They bring a ton of problems that were already previously mentioned. Problems that you just ignore.
Don't make me repeat what I've been saying for several posts already. I already said why the bowing would not happen. He needed the insight of what was happening inside the cage to formulate a plan.
Before Dressrosa, Fuji didn't know what was Luffy's nature, or whether Doula was behaving himself. He didn't know about the toys either, or that Riku was innocent, or why Doula had put a Birdcage around the island. All those things were learned in Dressrosa and influenced his plan. Had he been late, Luffy and the Straw Hats would've been arrested by now.
You think he's going to become an ally?
Well if Doflamingo is going to be in the "End Game" he will have a role, he might be an actual ally, or Doflamingo simply just shares the same goal. Same as Croc before, he and Luffy had the goal of getting out of Impel Down and they did it.
Crocodile hated the Marines/WG more than Luffy so he chose to in a way help him.
Doflamingo wants to make the Celestial Dragons/WG suffer.
You don't need a full newspaper article stating "Doflamingo and Luffy have made an alliance".
They'll have a mutual goal and/or indirectly help each other.
Doflamingo has knowledge of something in Mariejois in which "its very existence can shake the world".
In years time we may even get the comeback of Doflamingo into the story and maybe this revelation.
Well if Doflamingo is going to be in the "End Game" he will have a role, he might be an actual ally, or Doflamingo simply just shares the same goal. Same as Croc before, he and Luffy had the goal of getting out of Impel Down and they did it.
Crocodile hated the Marines/WG more than Luffy so he chose to in a way help him.
Doflamingo wants to make the Celestial Dragons/WG suffer.
You don't need a full newspaper article stating "Doflamingo and Luffy have made an alliance".
They'll have a mutual goal and/or indirectly help each other.Doflamingo has knowledge of something in Mariejois in which "its very existence can shake the world".
In years time we may even get the comeback of Doflamingo into the story and maybe this revelation.
The problem with Doula is that he seems to be mentally broken beyond repair, and he was also responsible for killing 3 named characters. He has more character deaths under his belt than any other.
And Crocodile might even have a sympathetic backstory if the most recent SBS is anything to go by, whereas Doula was just a bastard throughout his whole life.
I'll be very surprised if he even goes the "we share the same goal" route. His goal is not only making the WG suffer, especially because he's been doing that for a long while already through blackmail, warmongering and supplying Emperors with more power. Crocodile has nothing on this guy in terms of sheer evilness.
So, about this list that was referred to in this chapter by the Revs, is it a list of all those affiliates of Doffy that bought weapons from him? If so, what do they intend to do with such a list, just be weary about which countries and organisations pose a threat and should be investigated next?
Yet we didn't get a full explanation on his powers particularly parasite strings and how it works (why he didn't use it earlier). Now we know you can rip them off your body at least.
I don't think that's something that really needs explaining. The victims just become big puppets that Doffy can control. He uses the strings attached to their body to control their movements, like an actual puppet.
The problem with Doula is that he seems to be mentally broken beyond repair, and he was also responsible for killing 3 named characters. He has more character deaths under his belt than any other.
And Crocodile might even have a sympathetic backstory if the most recent SBS is anything to go by, whereas Doula was just a bastard throughout his whole life.
I'll be very surprised if he even goes the "we share the same goal" route. His goal is not only making the WG suffer, especially because he's been doing that for a long while already through blackmail, warmongering and supplying Emperors with more power. Crocodile has nothing on this guy in terms of sheer evilness.
Hence his Epithet "Heavenly Demon".
By the looks of it, Doflamingo was supplying emperors with more power so they could destroy for him. I'd truly wonder what Kaido's goals are too, time will tell.
Doflamingo said himself that, he himself, to the WG/Celestial Dragons is a threat as he holds knowledge that can "shake the world".
To Doflamingo it's the biggest trump card to get away with anything, that's not to how he's succeeding in his plans.
Doflamingo has failed his current plan, all the blackmail and underworld broker status was to build up to his goal, it has now been destroyed, he will most likely have to change his course.
All there really was to Doflamingo was a kid who had the high life and was then dumped to nothing, had almost been killed and then was denied return into the land he was born in. He swore that from that day he would ruin the CD's and he's stayed committed.
Can you give me a link to the latest SBS please
Can you give me a link to the latest SBS please
I don't think the SBS really puts him in a sympathetic light because of the fact that the old fan theory that Crocodile was beaten before he became a Warlord was proven to be false. Not to mention it seems he was planning taking over Alabasta for 14 years which would put a wedge in that he was once a idealistic dreamer headcannon.
Can you give me a link to the latest SBS please
Just always keep an eye out for Volume X Prediction/Discussion threads. Eventually they get updated with the SBS.
Since the newspaper news has already shown up I guess we are having a "world reacts to the news" next, and the ones I really wanna see are the WG, maybe the CP0, and more importantly Kaidou!
@Eat:
The only thing that's gonna bother me if they really do abolish the Shichibukai system now is Buggy's situation. I mean, his time to shine finally came and then BAM! F**k you, you stupid red nosed pirate!
I really like Buggy…
I was thinking that too! I wanted to see him as a Shichibukai for awhile at least before they abolish the system all together! Luckily I don't think they will yet..and I definitely hope they don't yet.
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@The:
If you look at Doflamingo in just the perspective of overall strength, then he does look a little bad. Though I always question the hype that was gathered around him. At most I was interested in who he was and what role he would play, but I never got so hyped that I believed he would be one of the greatest forces ever faced. In earlier parts, we learned he was one of the strongest, or at least had the greatest bounties at the time. We had a hint to his power as well. Later we learned he had dealings in the slave trade. Then during the war, we saw the side of him when it came to fighting, where he gets into it and just has fun with it. There was some other things here and there, but nothing screaming out to me. Black Beard has had much more hype from the few things he has done.
! That said, we have to look at Doflamingo less through the idea of strength, but more of relevance of the overall story. He's always been shown before now to be part of some kind of business. He was one of the few Warlords actively going to the various meetings with the Marines. We know Kuma went because of his background, and Mihawk only went because of Zoro. After the war, we see Doflamingo telling that one Marine to shut up, threatening him that he would leave and not care. From there, we can see that he had quite a bit of dealings with the WG, which in this arc we can see why he would keep a close relationship with them. His status his based on information he knows, and his presence can be there to remind them of that fact. This one piece of information will determine his fate after this arc.
! After learning about his dealing with the slave trade, we later learned about him having a whole underground trade, dealing in weapons of various kinds as well as smiles. He also had a hold over a kingdom, and held other information pertinent for other parties. With him now down, all the trade is gone and open to the public. Kaido no longer has smiles coming to him, which seems vital to him being an Emperor. Their are groups that seemed to rely on weapons being distributed for who knows what reasons (we know for a fact Kidd had dealings with him, and that will come in play). We also know that many wars against countries have been continued by Doflamingo supplying both sides. For good or bad, everyone will be thanking/blaming the Luffy/Law alliance for what happened.
! Last but not least, we have what is the start of a shift in the WG, which is the foundation of abolishing the Shikibukai, but also the WG image falling apart. All the others before were covered up and deemed inconvenient at most. With Doflamingo dabbling in all these practices, which was possible due to his position, questions can now arise about if the position is a good thing. Unlike others which were doing their own thing, Doflamingo was doing many things that would go against the WG. That would be bad enough, but we have something that will shake things up more, and that's this incident not being covered up, along with the events being amplified by Fujitora's theatrics. Citizens are going to start questioning the WG, which can help the Revolutionaries cause. Then there's the Marines, which will eventually start being fractured by people of certain beliefs not wanting anything to do with a government they deem corrupt.
In the end, Doflamingo's hype was less about strength, and more about his role in the overall story and plot. Even then, one can argue that he was still impressive. He took a number of hits from Luffy and Law, and was able to fight quite well after taking the Gamma Knife. After that, he still had to force Luffy to show his new gear. He took a number of hits and was able to keep going, and it took a King Kong Punch to finish him, which by all means should've killed him. I know some wanted more from the fight, and even I felt it could've been better, but if you look at it from a story perspective, I think it worked out very well in the end.
That's a really good summary! I hope something came of Usopp's actions in the future too though..and I'm dissappointed at whom Zoro fought…
@uniaka:
I still don't get it why Doflamingo was introduced so early in the manga, his introduction is almost as old as Blackbeard's introduction.( even was in 5 arcs, was he?) He's not even the main warlord villain, The new warlord could be even be better. It's clear the yonkous are the main villains( except Shanks) in the new world along with admirals but DD's hype was just crazy.
Unless he will be a very important ally in the future( not just in the kaidou arc), all the hype he got over the years doesn't look justified.
From a writers standpoint Oda used Doffy beautifully so far advancing the story and plot through him in multiple ways such as pushing Luffy to a new gear, showing off the underworld, forming a strong connection between the readers and Law and forming Luffy's first hands on alliance, keeping the reader always guessing and speculating about Doffy after all these years, introducing devil fruit awakening, Oda having a villain that's killed multiple named characters is refreshing, being so patient to explain Doffy's devil fruit must have been hard to keep a secret not to mention the whole eye obsession, also Doffy had one of the more interesting back stories in the manga, he had a whole sack of pretty bad dudes with him (decent and devote crew), he is insane, smart, and strong, only failing because he overestimated his enemies (a shared trait with one piece villains towards Luffy), he's responsible for Law being trained, he had the intelligence to hire a mad scientist and enslave dwarves to create SMILES, he has ties with tons of important charachters, he had an absolute hatred and fear for D.'s, and he holds a huge secret concerning the WG. This isn't the last we've seen of Doffy.
P.S. he had a badass brother.
Since the newspaper news has already shown up I guess we are having a "world reacts to the news" next, and the ones I really wanna see are the WG, maybe the CP0, and more importantly Kaidou!
What the actual real fuck?
Nothing should be more worrying than Sanji's safety.
Jokes apart, i want my entirely world reaction chapter.
Dragon's reaction; that's my boys.
First we need to have the banquet on Big Mom ship.
Banquet comes first, then world reaction. Fujitora would probably have to report what occurred before the world reacts to what happened.
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Banquet comes first, then world reaction. Fujitora would probably have to report what occurred before the world reacts to what happened.
A party without knowing how the other SHs are doing against a freaking Yonkou crew… Dunno if this feels right
I doubt there's going to be a party like in previous arcs. For all they know, Akainu himself could have taken a fleet of ships towards Dressrosa after communication break.
And I wouldn't mind if the arc didn't follow OP arc formula in EVERY part. Even though running away from marines has happened before too. Maybe cut the banquet part and jump straight to escape marines part. :ninja:
And there is no Sanji who can cook for them. No Brook who can sing and no Usopp lies :cwy:
lol I just remembered poor Bellamy is still lying there with his face mushed in the ground, I hope his character arc gets some decent resolution after everything is said and done.
A party without knowing how the other SHs are doing against a freaking Yonkou crew… Dunno if this feels right
I doubt there's going to be a party like in previous arcs. For all they know, Akainu himself could have taken a fleet of ships towards Dressrosa after communication break.
And there is no Sanji who can cook for them. No Brook who can sing and no Usopp lies
We'd probably get word of what happened to the Sanji crew. Unless they've been completely wiped out, I doubt that anything that happened to them would cause the Luffy crew to worry so much to the point of leaving immediately after all that's happened. If there's one thing Oda has been incredibly consistent about, it's giving the Straw Hats a break after a huge battle. Someway or another, we're gonna get a celebration complete with food, music, and wine. Also Usopp is in Dressrosa. Whether or not the banquet is gonna get cut short is up in the air, but since when did that ever happen?
I wonder if Sanji defies Sugars DF power by not forgetting Robin in her short toy time. I hope Oda addresses this somehow lol.
I think Fujitora would be pushing it a little too far if he allowed 2 of most wanted pirates to have a party even after they took down Doflamingo. He has no more excuses to stand on the side.
Besides, capturing both Dofla and Law would only help his cause.
I'd have to suspend my disbelief a little too hard to buy that party.
Aokiji did just that though. Let reaaaally wanted pirates of the hook. Actually, his situation was worse because the Straw Hats just annihilated CP9 and "destroyed" Enies Lobby. Fujitora just apologized and knelt down faced on the ground in this chapter - I'd think he can (somehow) let Luffy and Law take a breather since they did save Dressrosa and everyone in it. There'd be some scuffle of sorts or whatever, but I very much doubt fujitora would go on the offensive especially how the whole kingdom is debt to Straw Hat
I think Fujitora would be pushing it a little too far if he allowed 2 of most wanted pirates to have a party even after they took down Doflamingo. He has no more excuses to stand on the side.
Besides, capturing both Dofla and Law would only help his cause.
I'd have to suspend my disbelief a little too hard to buy that party.
Maybe Fujitoa will ask the returning king for permission to arrest them with them being in his kingdom and all. Of course fully aware that Riku will refuse.
I should hope we'll see more Flamingo in the future. So far all the previous shichbukai that were stripped of their position, ended up back on the open sea once more…i shoul hope that will be the case with Flamingo, given his connections that that 1 major trump card he has in his pocket.
Guys it's not going to be that deep. Fuji is going to turn a blind eye to them like he did Doffy and evacuate the marines. I kind of want him to join in on the party but I don't think that's going down.
I should hope we'll see more Flamingo in the future. So far all the previous shichbukai that were stripped of their position, ended up back on the open sea once more…i shoul hope that will be the case with Flamingo, given his connections that that 1 major trump card he has in his pocket.
I imagine Doffy will reappear since the whole reason he wanted the Ope Ope no Mi/the great Tenryuubito secret was never revealed.
I think Fujitora would be pushing it a little too far if he allowed 2 of most wanted pirates to have a party even after they took down Doflamingo. He has no more excuses to stand on the side.
Besides, capturing both Dofla and Law would only help his cause.
I'd have to suspend my disbelief a little too hard to buy that party.
They're probably about to leave the island, there's no way in hell Oda can create a party in this island and expect the audience to be happy about it.
Why do I feel like it might happen…
I think Fujitora would be pushing it a little too far if he allowed 2 of most wanted pirates to have a party even after they took down Doflamingo. He has no more excuses to stand on the side.
Besides, capturing both Dofla and Law would only help his cause.
I'd have to suspend my disbelief a little too hard to buy that party.
He is going to turn a blind eye ba dum tsssssshhhhhhhh
But seriously Oda always has a banquet, I'm expecting one somwhere to happen, Green bit or somwhere else since Dressrosa is destroyed.
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What about Gambia? poor Gambia, he is still knocked out from the beating Maynard gave him.
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