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Awesome list, thanks for that! You forgot Burgess' awesome laugh btw
@sanji''s_dad:
This is something that should be on the one piece wiki instead not much to talk about with their laughs lol.
Maybe predict the laughs of future characters?
Sanji's dad: "Swirlhihihihi"
Let me clarify, by "widen imagination" I mean actually creatively thinking through plot points and what not. Something I assure you I've done for the popular Government as final villain thing. In fact I was one of the first people to ever propose that idea on here thanks!
Narratively speaking there are huge fucking issues with the government as THE final villain.
While narratively speaking there are a million reasons it makes sense by this point for Blackbeard.
I've gazed upon the government idea, once long ago it made more sense but it has ever increasingly been clearly no good. I've thought about it. My mind opened and let it come in to be considered.
All a y'all though? There is not a reason on earth to consider the final war as somehow inherently two sided. Something you people keep stating like a banal fact.
Now then, widen your imagination and think other people might have done the same thing the other way around. It's exactly the other way around for me, doesn't mean I don't think your option of BB as the final villain is invalid. Nowhere did I even imply this was a fact. I even started my whole thought on "I feel like". You're extrapolating these "two sides" statement as fact when that wasn't said anywhere in my post, and not implied either.
Did you not relegate him to Raftel boss fight? Because you call him Luffy's ultimate goal toward being pirate king. That's exactly what that suggests.
No, I only said I feel that BB will likely be the final fight towards becoming pirate king, not the only one. For you it may be the final villain, for me it feels like BB will the final pirate villain. Though the former is very much possible and perhaps even more likely, it's definitely not set in stone just yet to me. Shounen just have that tendency to have an overarching godlike villain that isn't the main atagonist during the story trope.
So you don't see the really glaring connection that Blackbeard has with the Void Century plot? (Hint: It's in his name).
Also let's see.
We have the government/marines…and we have the good guys like the Strawhats and allies and likeminds....
We have three ancient weapons.
Hmm...
2 =/= 3
Hmmmmm...The continued inability of people to widen their imagination to the idea that a huge mega super war at the end could involve more than one side will never cease to baffle me. Christ even the Marineford battle had that be the case, and it was even literally Blackbeard who was the third party there. But the huge mega war? People cant' seem to see more than two sides. No idea why folks.
Yeah could happen, could not happen. Your inability to widen your imagination to the idea that there might be different ways to go about it baffles me. The irony… Nowhere did I say there were gonna be two sides. I only stated that I'm not certain Blackbeard will be the final villain.
What part exactly of Blackbeard and his presentation throughout the series leads you to think of him as in middling plot tier solely involved in the vanilla journey to the end plot alone? What part? A guy who at an almost preview of the mega war on Marineford crashed in and made all sides freak out as he wrecked shit and performed horrible miracles. This guy is just gonna exist as a obligatory fight before Raftel? Really?
Where did I say they will fight before Raftel?? Luffy won't become Pirate become Pirate King until after Raftel. I clearly said that Luffy might have his final battle as Pirate King. Seriously if you're going to try and belittle people at least try to read their posts right… Wouldn't be the first time you extrapolated on a point I didn't even make :getlost:
THIS IS AN EGG
http://www.instituteofmaking.org.uk/images/sized/assets/_files/uploads/640_egg-400x300.jpg
THIS IS NOT:
Wrong. All eggs in One Piece have polka dots in some color on them…
Ok. Who will?
I kinda feel the same way, though that doesn't mean I know for sure it will be true. Feels to me like Blackbeard will be Luffy's ultimate opponent towards his goal to become Pirate King, but as the story is laid out the WG, Celestials, Void Century, Revolutionaries, Ancient Weapons etc seem to be things that are meant for after that journey is completed. Becoming a Pirate King and ruling the seas going up against the marines and BB seems to be a tier below. Like Marines-Shanks(Yonkou)-BB-Pirate King and after that WG-CD's-Void Century- Ancient Weapons- Revolutionaries
Luffy having a final battle as Pirate King seems to be at least an option to me still.
Oh yeah, I also have to say that Thriller Bark restored my faith in One Piece.
As I mentioned before, Ennies Lobby got me disinterested in One Piece.
So some 2-3 years later, I picked it up again. I was so anxious while watching Thriller Bark, thinking that something BS was gonna happen: the strawhats would asspull an attack on Oars, or the strawhats would decide to fight Gecko Moriah because Brook was their "friend", etc. But luckily, Oars kicked their ass, allowing Nightmare Luffy (which is probably one of the best transformations I've seen in any anime, just because of how much it works within the plot), and the strawhats decided to fight Moriah because they knew he was horrible person who needed to be taken down (the old man and Brooke's suffering was a very legitimate reason).
It worked, like how a good story should. Plus the storytelling is an example of what makes One Piece, One Piece. The story progressed in a way that shows that Oda really spent time planning and proofreading literally everything in the arc; from the laws of the shadows to the situations the characters get into.
For instance, Oda - and the viewer - know that Moriah is a powerful, important character. You wanna know why this is significant? Because characters that are important should be doing things independent of the main characters. And that's what happened in Thriller Bark; the characters dictated the story. **Characters should dictate the story.
EDIT:** The only reason why I wouldn't give the arc a perfrect 100/100 is because I disliked the way Oda handled Bartholemew Kumatowards the end of Thriller Bark. Though, I'm only on early Marineford so maybe they explain it.
lol, I think I'm your mortal enemy. I'm the complete opposite in that Water 7/Enies Lobby solidified One Piece for me as a great manga while Thriller Bark made me lose interest again up until Kuma's appearance, which imo was great.
With all this Raftel end game talk, does anyone else feel like Luffy becoming pirate king might not be the end of the story?
At the moment I feel like the yonkou with Blackbeard at the forefront are the big hurdles for Luffy to take to become the pirate king with Shanks obviously playing a big role as well. After that though there's still the World Government(Gorosei, Nobles and their allied kingdoms not so much the marines), the ancient weapons, the void century and Dragon and the revolutionaries. These feel like seperate entities that operate on a much more global scale than the yonkou who are pretty much only interested in the New World.
I don't think so since he didn't mention it during this chapter where we were given true introductions.
Speaking of introductions, I think everyone called the Momo reveal lol.
This chapter was nice. I was definitely not expecting a poneglyph. But it makes sense I suppose. A lot of the older countries swen to have one..But Zou was 700 years old right? Does that match the time line of the others? Or does the color possibly indicate some more special?
I think it's over a 1000 years old
I love how even Zoro and Law join in on the ninja fanboyism 
Well his name refers to 3 o clock so it could foreshadow to his first siblings being Ichiji and Niji, 1 o clock and 2 o clock respectively.
On a side note, thanks to everyone that wished me good luck for my surgery! Reread chapter again and I can say I'll go in satisfied lol. Well guys, see you in a couple days!!!!
Ah thanks for the explanation and good luck with your surgery!
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