Whitebeard Pirates, Commander of the 3rd Division…
Chapter 754: Please to make your acquaintance
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@Pk:
Jaws was how it was translated at that time.. Its bizzare as to what type of names there were..
Doula mongo..
Lofulamingo..
And my favorite, Bisoromi Bear. Still better than the notorious H-K subs which called Sanji "Hangis" and Luffy "Roof"
Story time kids! When I was watching OP for the first time back in 10th grade, I spent like 2 or 3 weeks torrenting a batch torrent for all of Skypeia from K-F Fansubs (I didn't realize to check their actual site for torrents, I would download batch torrents with like 50 episodes which would last me a while instead)
Anyway after 2 or 3 weeks I was so excited to watch Skypiea, except it ended up being the H-K subs and were unwatchable. It was so depressing, I think I cried.
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That's my sad backstory, and my dream is to become moderator of AP, so can I join the Straw Hats now?
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I'm kidding about the dream
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Blue Gilly got done in by one kick what a jobber. Hope Sai takes baby 5 out with out a problem, we need to see what the leader of the happo Navy is all about.
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And you keep disregarding the fact that commanders can't land a damaging blow with those situational advantages.
So yeah.
Yeah, Aokiji bleeding from his mouth after the shoulder barge from Jozu wasn't damaging. I guess you only see what you want to see.
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Blue Gilly got done in by one kick what a jobber.
Blue Gilly isn't even supposed to be alive. He took a direct freaKing Punch when the light version can destroy Pica's arm.
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Yeah, Aokiji bleeding from his mouth after the shoulder barge from Jozu wasn't damaging. I guess you only see what you want to see.
little bit of blood is hardly damaging. What Akaiun did to Jinbei now that was damaging.
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Blue Gilly isn't even supposed to be alive. He took a direct freaKing Punch when the light version can destroy Pica's arm.
Maybe this last kick was too much for him.That because he's jobber.
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What Whitebeard did to Akainu … damn
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@MJR.:
What Whitebeard did to Akainu … damn
whitebeard attack weren't really all that damaging to Akainu.
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And my favorite, Bisoromi Bear. Still better than the notorious H-K subs which called Sanji "Hangis" and Luffy "Roof"
Story time kids! When I was watching OP for the first time back in 10th grade, I spent like 2 or 3 weeks torrenting a batch torrent for all of Skypeia from K-F Fansubs (I didn't realize to check their actual site for torrents, I would download batch torrents with like 50 episodes which would last me a while instead)
Anyway after 2 or 3 weeks I was so excited to watch Skypiea, except it ended up being the H-K subs and were unwatchable. It was so depressing, I think I cried.
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That's my sad backstory, and my dream is to become moderator of AP, so can I join the Straw Hats now?
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I'm kidding about the dream
If it'syour dream.. Hold onto it.. You never know.. Just dont expect much to avoid dissapointment..
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Inb4Darth joins the whitebeard Akainu discussion..place your bets folks..
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I'm sure Darth will be happy if Sabo will fare the same way as Jozu vs Admiral.
Thing is, he obviously won't.
The only way i see Sabo loosing is if he accidentally does something stupid because he can't control his Devil Fruit yet and Fujitora takes advantadge of it. Otherwise, no, Fujitora can't defeat him.
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Whitebeard Pirates, Commander of the 3rd Division…
http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Jaws-smile-for-a-family-picture-richard-kiel.gif
Now that right there… that's true strongest man in the worlds :ninja:
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@Pk:
Inb4Darth joins the whitebeard Akainu discussion..place your bets folks..
Joins? Dear friend, I run that course and run it into ground. Not going to repeat myself on this one again. No sir.
Altough it was alway my stance that that fight was closer to a tie then complete and utter destruction of Akainu that everyone else see's… but as I said, not going down that road again.
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Yeah, Aokiji bleeding from his mouth after the shoulder barge from Jozu wasn't damaging. I guess you only see what you want to see.
And your argument boils down to: Because we haven't seen them fail without distraction, it's clear that Jozu and Marco could hold Admirals for days/possibly win.
And that's simply not true.
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Joins? Dear friend, I run that course and run it into ground. Not going to repeat myself on this one again. No sir.
Altough it was alway my stance that that fight was closer to a tie then complete and utter destruction of Akainu that everyone else see's… but as I said, not going down that road again.
I'm pretty much in this same boat. Akainu really fucked up everyone on Marineford. He tore half of poor Whitebeard's face off. That is really, really frightening to me.
God I love Akainu
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I've always believed had Akainu not set his sights on killing Luffy. He could have easily got back up and contained his fight with WB.
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An attempt to avoid the Power Level Discussion (though only an attempt): I'm surprised that there's no discussion of the village Jinbei is going with the sea kitten and the sea dog police officer.
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An attempt to avoid the Power Level Discussion (though only an attempt): I'm surprised that there's no discussion of the village Jinbei is going with the sea kitten and the sea dog police officer.
For Example: Where's this village? What might be in it? and so forth…It's a trap! A police officer don't need wanted pirate Jinbe to escort a seakitten back to his house.
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It's a trap! A police officer don't need wanted pirate Jinbe to escort a seakitten back to his house.
this video has everything you said covered fish and traps
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^ So much in 2 seconds. (frightening) ^
But on a serious note, on the basis of this post and the fact that G-5 is very close to the Red Line, it seems that this village is very near Fishman Island. (which makes sense)
Now, to me it raises the question of how the hell will Jinbei make it to the Straw Hats (or the Curly Hats) after he finishes all he said he needed?By the time he finishes the sea kitten escort and/or escaping a possible trap AND what he said to Luffy he needs to do the SH will probably be heading or already at Zou.
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^ So much in 2 seconds. (frightening) ^
But on a serious note, on the basis of this post and the fact that G-5 is very close to the Red Line, it seems that this village is very near Fishman Island. (which makes sense)
Now, to me it raises the question of how the hell will Jinbei make it to the Straw Hats (or the Curly Hats) after he finishes all he said he needed?By the time he finishes the sea kitten escort and/or escaping a possible trap AND what he said to Luffy he needs to do the SH will probably be heading or already at Zou.
(though, I have no idea when exactly Caribou's Kehihihihi adventures and Jinbei's are happening)I highly doubt Jinbei will join the Strawhats anytime soon. I'm still on the fence about him joining in an official capacity at all, the Sun Pirates are under Big Mom right now because she claimed FI and because without Jinbei's Shichibukai status they probably don't have pardons (and since Jinbei was pretty much all in the Marines face during the war, his crew is probably then pretty high on the Marines shit list), so they need all the protection they can get. I don't think he can effectively disband them with the idea that they'll be safe, as such I really still see him as an ally, much in the way I expect Law and his crew to become allies. Though Luffy's direct way of asking Jinbei may be the kicker in proving he's going to be there as a constant member.
But getting there before this arc resolves I find to be highly unlikely, if anything he'll show up when the whole group is partying on Zou or something.
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I highly doubt Jinbei will join the Strawhats anytime soon. I'm still on the fence about him joining in an official capacity at all, the Sun Pirates are under Big Mom right now because she claimed FI and because without Jinbei's Shichibukai status they probably don't have pardons (and since Jinbei was pretty much all in the Marines face during the war, his crew is probably then pretty high on the Marines shit list), so they need all the protection they can get. I don't think he can effectively disband them with the idea that they'll be safe, as such I really still see him as an ally, much in the way I expect Law and his crew to become allies. Though Luffy's direct way of asking Jinbei may be the kicker in proving he's going to be there as a constant member.
But getting there before this arc resolves I find to be highly unlikely, if anything he'll show up when the whole group is partying on Zou or something.
I share your thoughts on Jinbei joining the crew. (ever since FI)
My point was that with the distance there's no way that Jinbei could reach Zou when everyone gets there.(if Jinbei joins)
And as things sound Zou won't be a big arc but an in between regrouping mini arc so even when the crew leaves Zou Jinbei won't catch up with them.But I can totally see Jinbei becoming Luffy's first commander. (and sun pirates under that)
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Where the hell is Sanji?
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Why wouldn't he have it with him? He always has that thing on him.
Doesn't he always have his haramaki with him too?
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My wounds in this case are eternal debates like Zoro Vs. Sanji and Commanders Vs. Admirals.
…oh, the battles.
By the way, what is the general consensus of Zoro Vs Sanji? The majority still think Zoro is light years ahead of him?
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@Zik:
Where the hell is Sanji?
This question has been tossed around a lot.
All we can assume is
a) He has somehow taken out Tamango and Pekoms and the rest of the crew.
b) Big Mom's subbordiantes overwhlemed him and captured the rest of the strawhats.
c) He is peacefully talking to Tamango and Pekoms negotiating trading Caesar for their freedom.
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About Zoro and his haramaki and bandana and the suit.
People, remember that Kinemon made the 'disguises' for the SHs when they first went into Dressrosa and no, it was not just the silly fake beard/moustache.
Luffy, got the Hawaiian shirt and hat over his strawhat, while Zoro, Franky, Usopp, & Robin got new outfits.Zoro was wearing his usual outfit - including the haramaki & bandana when Kinemon changed his clothing.
So we won't see those items again until Zoro ends the entire (not just the beard n 'stache) disguise. -
Zoro wears a suit to make up for the lack of KuroAshi.
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This question has been tossed around a lot.
All we can assume is
a) He has somehow taken out Tamango and Pekoms and the rest of the crew.
b) Big Mom's subbordiantes overwhlemed him and captured the rest of the strawhats.
c) He is peacefully talking to Tamango and Pekoms negotiating trading Caesar for their freedom.
d) They coup de burst outta there annd got to Zou?
e) They got captured and Sanji offered to cook for Big Mom in exchange for the freedom of the rest of the crew, so they can continue their mission
f) Lola's on the boat and they get a one time free pass
Just some random thoughts :P
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Sanji had his duels with Vergo on PH and looked bad, had his fight with Doflamingo here and looked bad, next on list: have a fight with big mom/ some strong commander from her crew and look bad. At least I hope he gets away… unless Oda wants Luffy to go after yonkou big mom first, and the perfect excuse is for her to capture sunny team so they need rescue.
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This question has been tossed around a lot.
All we can assume is
a) He has somehow taken out Tamango and Pekoms and the rest of the crew.
b) Big Mom's subbordiantes overwhlemed him and captured the rest of the strawhats.
c) He is peacefully talking to Tamango and Pekoms negotiating trading Caesar for their freedom.
This is Sanji we are talking about he' most likely made jobbers out of Tamango and Pekoms.
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Something tells me that we're gonna get Chinjao vs. 5 executives.
Basically, a Franky vs. 3 executives + Marines all over again.
This is Sanji we are talking about he' most likely made jobbers out of Tamango and Pekoms.
Only Pekoms. Tamago is protected under the rule of mystery.
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KC your avatar is scaring the hell out of me. >.>
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KC your avatar is scaring the hell out of me. >.>
Took me a bit to realize it was Dodoria. Probably would have helped if he was wearing a scouter.
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By the way, what is the general consensus of Zoro Vs Sanji? The majority still think Zoro is light years ahead of him?
Shhhhh… let's not... We just got that put to rest. Let's not poke the sleeping hive anymore, let it sleep.
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Shhhhh… let's not... We just got that put to rest. Let's not poke the sleeping hive anymore, let it sleep.
It can't be that bad, I said this a couple hours already and nothing happened yet.
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Something tells me that we're gonna get Chinjao vs. 5 executives.
Basically, a Franky vs. 3 executives + Marines all over again.
I'm sorry but Chinjao vs 5 executives? do you even realize how absurd that sounds
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I'm sorry but Chinjao vs 5 executives? do you even realize how absurd that sounds
Yeah, it would be more like Chinjao vs. 5 executives + a bunch of grunts.
Not that he will win of course.
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Luffy going up against three admirals without haki, now that's absurd!
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Yeah, it would be more like Chinjao vs. 5 executives + a bunch of grunts.
Not that he will win of course.
Yeah, that seems way better lol
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By the way, what is the general consensus of Zoro Vs Sanji? The majority still think Zoro is light years ahead of him?
Yeah, pretty much.
It'll turn around when we see Sanji firing on Big Mom's ship though.
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Yeah, pretty much.
It'll turn around when we see Sanji firing on Big Mom's ship though.
Firing the chefs on the boat you mean and cooking up some delicious food for food addict Big Mom.
Seriously though, isn't Sanji always fighting handicapped to begin with? He used his hands only once on the sea train right?
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Firing the chefs on the boat you mean and cooking up some delicious food for food addict Big Mom.
Seriously though, isn't Sanji always fighting handicapped to begin with? He used his hands only once on the sea train right?
Yeah, he used kitchen knives to combat Wanze's Ramen Armour thing.
I don't really get what relevance that has to firing on Big Mom's ship though?
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Yeah, he used kitchen knives to combat Wanze's Ramen Armour thing.
I don't really get what relevance that has to firing on Big Mom's ship though?
Oh, I just meant that as Sanji not being as weak as people think in comparison to Zoro.
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Oh, I just meant that as Sanji not being as weak as people think in comparison to Zoro.
Thing is, Zoro generally fights right hand man/second in command, whereas Sanji fights the person under that level. Which leads to the next point, which is the fact that Zoro have shown his limits in his battles to a much wider degree than Sanji has. This probably leads onto the illusion that he is miles ahead off Sanji, but to be honest, I doubt that the gap between the monster trio is even noticeable in the end of the day.
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Oh, I just meant that as Sanji not being as weak as people think in comparison to Zoro.
Oh, right.
That isn't really like Sanji being handicapped though just because he doesn't use his hands.
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Thing is, Zoro generally fights right hand man/second in command, whereas Sanji fights the person under that level. Which leads to the next point, which is the fact that Zoro have shown his limits in his battles to a much wider degree than Sanji has. This probably leads onto the illusion that he is miles ahead off Sanji, but to be honest, I doubt that the gap between the monster trio is even noticeable in the end of the day.
Then we've got things like the caught dinosaurs in Little Garden being the same size, or Kaku and Jabra being within 5 doukiri or something of each other.
Oda's gone to great lengths to make Zoro and Sanji look like equals, even if Zoro usually takes the right hand guy, while Sanji takes the left hand.
Sanji not having great showings against 2 plot armoured opponents in the last 2 arcs Vs. Zoro pretty much only just having a real fight in the New World in the last few chapters tends to skew people's perspective on the matter.
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If anything I don't find it fair to Zoro. Sanji and Zoro are pretty much equals while Sanji is a great cook as well. Zoro works his ass off doing exercises daily just to keep that same skill level/slight edge on Sanji, who barely if ever trains AND is a great cook.
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The doriki do not count that Kaku is a swordsman and Zoro beat Kaku with one Asura attack when Sanji need to Diable Jambe to beat Jabura. Futhermore Kaku was more hurt than Jabura after EL:
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As you can see Jabura is fresh enough to hold Kaku who can't walk.The Dinosaurs' hunt was comic-relief.
Everything in the manga ,strenght-wise, shows that Zoro is clearly stronger than Sanji. Which do not mean that Sanji is weak.
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^That coverstory page is one of my favorite, because it adds to Jabra's character.
He has took his clothe off so that Kalifa can wear them, and he's carrying Kaku who we saw him arguing the most against earlier. Tsundere much?I really think that shouldn't be used to discuss a power-level.
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Everything in the manga ,strenght-wise, shows that Zoro is clearly stronger than Sanji. Which do not mean that Sanji is weak.
I don't agree with this for a few reasons.
What is even the point of Douriki? Oda's not the kind of guy to put something like Douriki in his series. And it's never ever seen again. It was just to give us a concrete idea of how powerful the CP9 members are in relation to each other, and the average Marine. Kaku being 2200 and Jabra being 2180 is no coincidence, it was to show that they are very close in terms of raw physical power. They had a rivalry that was similar to the one Zoro and Sanji had, which was great. The thing is, their rivalry doesn't mean anything if Zoro outclasses Sanji in any significant regard. It's not a rivalry if both members aren't close to each other in terms of skill or power, think about it. The dinosaur hunt was more than just comic relief. When you see that, your mind registers these guys as equal.
Part of the misconception I think comes from Zoro getting more fights than Sanji. Typically, that's because that's all Zoro can do. He's fairly one note. Sanji's the one who always ends up messing with the enemy's plans. Messing with Crocodile, sabotaging the Maxim, opening the Gates of Justice. Sanji has roles in every arc that go beyond just beating up people. We've seen Sanji knocked out or incapacitated in more arcs, but Zoro never falls into these situations. Also they've yet to really have proper fights post TS (besides Zoro fighting Pica), so there's that.
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The whole Douriki discussion is so stupid. Once Jabra transforms he is MUCH stronger than Kaku.
Wolf > Giraffe. Even kids know this!
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Zoro is a supernova and vice-captain of the crew, and has more ambition. Obviously he was destinated to create a gap. Oda is highlighting Zoro more than Sanji for readers to understand they aren't as close in power as they used to
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I don't agree with this for a few reasons.
What is even the point of Douriki? Oda's not the kind of guy to put something like Douriki in his series. And it's never ever seen again. It was just to give us a concrete idea of how powerful the CP9 members are in relation to each other, and the average Marine. Kaku being 2200 and Jabra being 2180 is no coincidence, it was to show that they are very close in terms of raw physical power.
Yeah the Douriki show the différence between Kaku(without swords) and Jabura not the difference between Zoro and Sanji.
As i already said, Zoro beats Kaku with one Asura when Sanji need two Diable Jambe to beat Jabura. And then we saw that Jabura was fresh enough to walk with Kaku on his back.They had a rivalry that was similar to the one Zoro and Sanji had, which was great.
No the rivalry is between Jabura and Lucci.
The thing is, their rivalry doesn't mean anything if Zoro outclasses Sanji in any significant regard. It's not a rivalry if both members aren't close to each other in terms of skill or power, think about it.
I would agree with that if they rivalry was strenght-wise but it's just that they can't stand each other.
What i mean is that Sanji is not a obstacle for Zoro in the way to WSM and Zoro is not an obstacle for Sanji in the way of All blue.The dinosaur hunt was more than just comic relief. When you see that, your mind registers these guys as equal.
So when Sanji put poison and razors in Zoro's bento that was not a comic relief neither, i guess..
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Yeah the Douriki show the différence between Kaku(without swords) and Jabura not the difference between Zoro and Sanji.
As i already said, Zoro beats Kaku with one Asura when Sanji need two Diable Jambe to beat Jabura. And then we saw that Jabura was fresh enough to walk with Kaku on his back.Yeah I know it was a measure of physical power. In that case you can say Jabra's would go up too cause his Zoan transformation. I could also easily point out that Jabra is a carnivorous Zoan, which Chopper said leads to increased physical aggression and skill. Kaku was not a carnivorous Zoan, just a regular Zoan, and furthermore just got his fruit like 5 minutes ago. Jabra'd be more skilled with his fruit than Kaku, who fumbled around trying to get a hold on his fruit the entire time. There's no merit to how many attacks Zoro used to defeat Kaku, or how many Diable Jambes it took to beat Jabra. It generalizes the whole thing too much. Kaku was also fumbling around himself so you could say Kaku wasn't as strong as he possibly could have been if he had better handle on his fruit. On the other hand, Sanji had just gotten his ass kicked by Califa, so you could say there was previous damage from that, which is why it took 2 attacks.
No the rivalry is between Jabura and Lucci.
Oh yeah you're right. I misremembered on this one.
I would agree with that if they rivalry was strenght-wise but it's just that they can't stand each other.
What i mean is that Sanji is not a obstacle for Zoro in the way to WSM and Zoro is not an obstacle for Sanji in the way of All blue.I know their rivalry isn't based on strength. But they each make fun of the other at every chance they can. Zoro's even chided Sanji for having a lower bounty, I think. But neither of them say the other is weaker than they are, they definitely respect each other's strength. You can't take either of them seriously if one is significantly weaker than the other.
So when Sanji put poison and razors in Zoro bento that was not a comic relief neither, i guess..
You're not seeing what I'm saying here. Everything in One Piece has a point. What you mentioned is definitely straight up comic relief, it doesn't have a deeper meaning. However, the Little Garden dinosaur thing does. You know why? Because there's context to it, it's not just a gag.
Dorry and Broggy had been fighting the entire arc, and they were shown to be a total physical match for each other, neither of them was stronger than the other, even if they use slightly different weapons. Then we get the context with their original argument, over whose catch is bigger. This was important because it showed that they're pretty much equal on all things. When they catch fish it's the same size, when they fight they're pretty much evenly matched. So when Zoro and Sanji get the dinosaurs later on, it's the very first indication Oda gives in the story that Sanji and Zoro are on the same level. Your mind instantly registers that connection, because you've just seen it.
I do think Zoro is stronger than Sanji, but only barely, the same way Kaku only had 20 more Douriki than Jabra. Rayleigh is Roger's right hand right? Then could Scobber Gaban be the left hand, and introduced someday? If we consider Zoro to be Luffy's right hand man, then Sanji is definitely his left. I see them as equal in terms of power, with Luffy obviously surpassing them both.