Why does Sanji think Law is focusing to much on Doflamingo?
One Piece 724 : Law’s Plan.
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Doflamingo latching on… to clouds? I guess since Smoker's smoke is solid enough, clouds can be too (hence Skypeia).
Anyway, I remember Dofla mentioning his path got cut off in 697, which probably refers to his cloud-swinging:
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/697/15 or
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/154527/one-piece_ch697_by_mangarule/13 for a second translation.I didn't really understand the "sky walk/road" then, but now it makes more sense.
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@.access:
And Zoro showed nothing new after the time skip only sword attacks with different names and another Fruit is the solution.
Monster Trio, pff…
Lol you are joking no? Winning against a Logia, using Fear to attack, a Tornado slicing, learning cutting fire, winning ALONE against one of the best swordmans in fisherman, cutting a PX in two, destroying a galeon etc.. Zoro is progressing, Sanji looks the same with a moustach and more nose blookd. Sanji is using the same fire jambe with DIFFERENT NAMES. Hell Memories is a burning attack with the leg like the other ones, and the sky walk is a copy of CP9 nothing new from him.
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@wolfwoof:
Yes i can just envision it. A small retainer of rent-a-guards holding off an admiral, a vice-admiral, 3000 grunts and their armada of flying battle cruisers
You shall not pass!
wait, what?:wassat:
did you even read what i said in my post?
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Doflamingo latching on… to clouds? I guess since Smoker's smoke is solid enough, clouds can be too (hence Skypeia).
Anyway, I remember Dofla mentioning his path got cut off in 697, which probably refers to his cloud-swinging:
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/697/15 or
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/154527/one-piece_ch697_by_mangarule/13 for a second translation.I didn't really understand the "sky walk/road" then, but now it makes more sense.
I'm thinking law used his room to manually change the cloud formation. Thus interrupting doflamingo's technique "sky road"
Or maybe he got nami to change the cloud formation idk if she could do that though.
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Damn, another really good chapter. Sanji's strength was acknowledged by Doflamingo which is cool, and it's not like he was KOed by that single attack from Doflamingo.
On that note - finally, the Ito Ito Fruit. For such a non-threatening-sounding power, Doffy obviously has found ways to utilize it very dangerously (reminds me about Crocodile's whole speech of honing your Devil Fruit abilities).
On a much wider note, I've been comparing the fighting in this chapter to scenes we'd see in East Blue or the early part of the Grand Line, and seeing how far the crew and enemies have come in this series. It's sorta hard to appreciate when the threat level is slowly rising one arc at a time, but if you had told me about this chapter a decade ago around the Alabasta arc, I would've called you straight coocoo bananas.
Flying cooks, levitating warships, meteors, mile-long cutting whips, teleportation hi-jinks and everything else. Dang, One Piece. This shit rules.
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Lol you are joking no? Winning against a Logia, using Fear to attack, a Tornado slicing, learning cutting fire, winning ALONE against one of the best swordmans in fisherman, cutting a PX in two, destroying a galeon etc.. Zoro is progressing, Sanji looks the same with a moustach and more nose blookd. Sanji is using the same fire jambe with DIFFERENT NAMES. Hell Memories is a burning attack with the leg like the other ones, and the sky walk is a copy of CP9 nothing new from him.
Nothing you said actually counts as something new, except the use of Haki (something Sanji also has shown) and the tornado. All the others are simply "he got stronger".
So, Zoro -> Haki, Tornado, got stronger.
Sanji -> Haki, Geppou, got stronger.If people think Zoro still has a lot to show, I don't see we should think Sanji has exhausted all his new abilities. People are just digging excuses to justify he eating the Mera Mera.
For all we know, Sanji can have a plethora of Newkama abilities he is too ashamed (or afraid as it could call back painful memories) to show unless completely necessary.
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fuji can fight pirates. if he so happens to call a meteor that is big enough to destroy both the colosseum and the factory then it was just an unfortunate accident. ;) what's doflamingo going to do? fight him?
The colleseum is off-limit. Marine don't have the right to enter in it. And I doubt Fuji would do such a thing as risking the life of a bunch of civilians by sending a meteor.
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Lol you are joking no? Winning against a Logia, using Fear to attack, a Tornado slicing, learning cutting fire, winning ALONE against one of the best swordmans in fisherman, cutting a PX in two, destroying a galeon etc.. Zoro is progressing, Sanji looks the same with a moustach and more nose blookd. Sanji is using the same fire jambe with DIFFERENT NAMES. Hell Memories is a burning attack with the leg like the other ones, and the sky walk is a copy of CP9 nothing new from him.
Could you atleast try to be even handed about it all?
It's not doing your theory any favors when it's presented like the fox news of arguing
wait, what?:wassat:
did you even read what i said in my post?
I did. And i was just noting that when purple guy decides to storm the coloseum, which it to me seems appareant that they eventually will, there's shit all that any DD family protection is or would be able to do about it.
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soo is the taking down kaidou plan done now too?
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The colleseum is off-limit. Marine don't have the right to enter in it. And I doubt Fuji would do such a thing as risking the life of a bunch of civilians by sending a meteor.
well good thing the dwarves are invading the colloseum and most likely forcing the people to evacuate.
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For all we know, Sanji can have a plethora of Newkama abilities he is too ashamed (or afraid as it could call back painful memories) to show unless completely necessary.
As if Sanji has anything up his sleeve. He did what he could against Doffy and it wasn't enough. Stop acting like he would hold back some of his secret okama strength in a dire situation like this
Sanji is now where he belongs
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I think others probably said this already, but it seems like Doflamingo really cares about his nakama.
And his nakama are so willing to give up their life and support Doflamingo. Is this due to his Conquerer's Haki?
Jora and Monet along with Vergo and others are so caring for their "young master".
He is probably the most complex villain so far in One Piece.To overstretch this, He might not be such a bad person after all..?
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Even Tsuru was pretty nice(?) to him and called him a "good boy"
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Man, what a friggin great chapter and blah blah blah….......I knew Sanji was gonna get his ass handed to him. Just makes you think a) Who the hell is gonna beat Doflamingo? and b) Just how freakin powerful is Kaido if DD is afraid of this guy? Well Law looks like he could do it next chapter; the 13 year previous incident probably has something to do with Law being related to the previous Dressrosa King. Law just skyrocketed in respect from me in this chapter just from how clever he was; keeping CC's heart inside his own body and leaving his heart on the ship so that if DD pulled something and killed Law, CC would die and DD would be screwed all the same............G-E-N-I-U-S!!
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@wolfwoof:
I did. And i was just noting that when purple guy decides to storm the coloseum, which it to me seems appareant that they eventually will, there's shit all that any DD family protection is or would be able to do about it.
it's the world government by the hands of akainu and the entire navy that is going to do something if the marines (well,fuji and his subordinates) storms the colosseum…
it has never been a problem of "if the doflamingo family can do something about it",but a problem of "doflamingo is a shichibukai,and the WG gave them some liberties,one of them is that dofla can do whatever he wants inside his colosseum,and the marines can do shit about it",if fuji is gonna do something about it anyway,well it's insubordination,that under akainu's reign of terror i suppose doesn't only means that "you are fired",but probably also that "you are dead"..ruining the relationship between the WG and a shichibukai is not laughing matter,they still need those seven bastards
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As if Sanji has anything up his sleeve. He did what he could against Doffy and it wasn't enough. Stop acting like he would hold back some of his secret okama strength in a dire situation like this
Sanji is now where he belongs
With the women and children in safetyBecause he had any choice? He attacked and then became unable to move, in the following second Doflamingo already attacked to kill. It was not a regular fight where he could show everything he gets and see each of his technique be rendered useless.
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Prediction: Violet will be captured, and be forced to tell the location of the Sunny Ship, where Ceaser is located. Either Pica or Trebol will follow with others to capture Ceaser back.
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why dd didn't get vergo back since the gas could never reash him after all…
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I still don't buy that this is all just one, big revenge plot. Maybe the inevitable flashback will illuminate the matter, but with the facts we have, this is very inconsistent for Law's character, so until further notice, I presume that this is just a ploy to protect the Strawhats left on the island.
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I still don't buy that this is all just one, big revenge plot. Maybe the inevitable flashback will illuminate the matter, but with the facts we have, this is very inconsistent for Law's character, so until further notice, I presume that this is just a ploy to protect the Strawhats left on the island.
the fact is,wat we really know about law's character?not much if you ask me.
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On that note - finally, the Ito Ito Fruit. For such a non-threatening-sounding power, Doffy obviously has found ways to utilize it very dangerously (reminds me about Crocodile's whole speech of honing your Devil Fruit abilities).
On a much wider note, I've been comparing the fighting in this chapter to scenes we'd see in East Blue or the early part of the Grand Line, and seeing how far the crew and enemies have come in this series. It's sorta hard to appreciate when the threat level is slowly rising one arc at a time, but if you had told me about this chapter a decade ago around the Alabasta arc, I would've called you straight coocoo bananas.
Flying cooks, levitating warships, meteors, mile-long cutting whips, teleportation hi-jinks and everything else. Dang, One Piece. This shit rules.
I know right; Doflamingo has earned some of the respect for taking a power people would usually first see as lame or unwanted and honing it to squeeze as much potential out of it as possible. DD may be a villain, but the fact that he can tap into a niche which usually associate with the main character, while having a Girly Pink Bird as his symbol (complete with Feathery Pink Coat), makes him AWESOME and deserving of respect!! Also, yeah OP has and continus to extend into the realm of great imagination; it really hits home the message hinted at the beginning that "You will encounter ALOT of WEIRD, AMAZING and DANGEROUS shit sailing on the Grandline." And it is not ending any time soon…....Thank You Oda.
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if fuji is gonna do something about it anyway,well it's insubordination,that under akainu's reign of terror i suppose doesn't only means that "you are fired",but probably also that "you are dead"..ruining the relationship between the WG and a shichibukai is not laughing matter,they still need those seven bastards
For one thing Akainu seems to be friends with purple guy
And secondly admirals are insubordinate all the time, Akainu himself barely followed orders
Doing what you feel is right at the time is practically in their job description
Purple guy and CO will storm, by the end Doffy will either be ousted or defeated and what he did won't matter in the long run anyhow
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1. Law being in slave auction 2 years ago in Sabaody
2. Law saving Luffy's life in the Paramount WarFrom then on, its all recent memory. Do you guys think Oda gave us clues to Law's past?
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Do you guys think Oda gave us clues to Law's past?
Well, in that one SBS with Law's tattoos Oda said something akin to "Those tattoos are strange aren't they, what could they mean I wonder?"
I think it might be alluding to more than the heart seat since that's all explained in the volume. -
soo is the taking down kaidou plan done now too?
can't wait for the next one!Depends on whether you think Law never had a plan to take down kaidou and his target was dofla all along, or that Law is bluffing again to distract Dofla on the bridge while the Starwhats escape to Zou and destroy the factory.
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Law was sexually abused as a child
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Just reading through the thread. This got a genuine lol.
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For one thing Akainu seems to be friends with purple guy
And secondly admirals are insubordinate all the time, Akainu himself barely followed orders
Doing what you feel is right at the time is practically in their job description
Purple guy and CO will storm, by the end Doffy will either be ousted or defeated and what he did won't matter in the long run anyhow
yeah,that's why we never heard anything about marines interfering in shichibukai's affairs…all was needed was a brave marines and he could have do whatever he wants without consequences
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What happened to the big fishes that Sunny guys were so afraid of? They just evaporated this chapter.
Sure, their threat level was nowhere near a meteor, a flying Warship and Doflamingo.. -
the fact is,wat we really know about law's character?not much if you ask me.
With the facts we have, we know that Law is the type who is willing to wait years for a plan to reach fruition. We know he has at least minimal ambition (using ambition in its literal sense – not to mean "haki") to become a pirate captain and a shichibukai. We know that "something" speaks to his animal instincts or long-term planning ability, as shown by the Ivankov/Law conversation. And notwithstanding his character directly, we know that he saved the Sunny half of the Strawhats when he really didn't have to if his only stated goal was just to kill Doflamingo.
We also know he's the type who's very comfortable lying: He betrayed Doflamingo, left out several gaps in his "Operation Kill Kaidou" plan, backstabbed the World Government, and so on. I'm not going to say he's reached Aizen-level "all according to plan" heights, but knowing what's established so far, plus what Oda usually does in these situations, there's at least a lot more left to tell in this story.
So based on what we know, and specifically what we know of Law's character, I'm not going to take what Law says at face-value.
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yeah,that's why we never heard anything about marines interfering in shichibukai's affairs…all was needed was a brave marines and he could have do whatever he wants without consequences
So what exactly do you expect him to do at Dressrosa then?
Everyone of note on the island, including the marines, are in, outside of, or just about to head into the coloseum area
Is the marine army going to spend the rest of the arc standing outside and looking at their watches?
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Doffy controlled Law with his fruit and made him do some naughty things 13 years ago (;
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So anyone know what things happened 13 years ago in the One Piece world?
When did Doflamingo take of Dressrosa? How many years ago was that. Is it possible that Rebecca and Law are connected in some way?
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So anyone know what things happened 13 years ago in the One Piece world?
When did Doflamingo take of Dressrosa? How many years ago was that. Is it possible that Rebecca and Law are connected in some way?
Doflamingo took over Dressrosa 10 years ago.
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So what exactly do you expect him to do at Dressrosa then?
Everyone of note on the island, including the marines, are in, outside of, or just about to head into the coloseum area
Is the marine army going to spend the rest of the arc standing outside and looking at their watches?
i don't know what they are gonna do..but i know what they can't do given the rules that oda itself wrote until know.
shichibukai affairs are untouchable..hell even Caesar got his pardon just because is a doflamingo subordinate..and you think they can just go inside the colosseum like it's nothing?If Issho was that kind of guy,why didn't he directly attacked doflamingo,or at least took caesar into custody?we don't know what smoker wrote about doflamingo's activity and Caesar involvement,but i don't think that if Issho had a choice in the matter,he would have let Caesar stay freeof course all that would change id Doflamingo itself would give Fujitora the permit to storm the colosseum..but given the fact that no warriors has showe up at the exit,i don't think dofla want to give them to the marines,either to take them for himself ofr just let them escape ,because no other pirate would ever partecipate in the colosseum if the marines attack.
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Is it possible that Rebecca and Law are connected in some way?
Doffy came to Dressrosa 10 years ago and Law says he's never been.
I also recall Dofla saying something like "You haven't written to me in 10 years Law" so I guess it's safe to assume Law left before the takeover and wasn't lying.
So I guess all we know now is that the incident occurred two years after Vergo left for the marines and three years before Doffy bravely reclaimed his homeland. -
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i don't know what they are gonna do..but i know what they can't do given the rules that oda itself wrote until know.
shichibukai affairs are untouchable..hell even Caesar got his pardon just because is a doflamingo subordinate..and you think they can just go inside the colosseum like it's nothing?Revolutionaries took over the coloseum area. There's the first and easiest excuse that pops to mind
They have already shown that they don't respect Dressrosa's sovreignity by sending in spies and agents
Given sufficient reason they'll be in there in a heartbeat. How it happens is debatable, but that they will go in there is to me inevitable.
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A very nice chapter - but man mangapanda/-stream translated it so badly - with a lot of well thought through information and actions though I'm disappointed Nami didn't immediately respond to Law's explanation of Dofy's weakness. Weather is her specialty so even in panic I expected at least one small frame of her taking notice of this information if not actually acting on it right away. The latter is debatable, however.
So hopefully she'll clear the sky when they arrive at a new location instead of looking for a cloud-free area.I find it a bit surprising Law gave CC his heart back instead of someone of the SH. I wonder whether that is a hint CC probably soon gets a chance to escape. Meanwhile Law is being portrayed in high contrast, showing his concern and maybe foreshadowing a defeat while Dofy once again takes care of one of his crew members despite taking risk of loosing CC.
Although I want the tournament to be over as soon as possible it's better if we can see the Heart Pirates some time in the next two to four chapters. It'd be great if Sanji & Co. pick them up before returning to Luffy.
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Law's parent was working for Dofla. He was killed by Dofla but Doflamingo deslcided to adopt the boy and raise him.
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Nah I think they will think about leaving and after a den den call they say fuck it go back motivated to fuck up dd and that's when nami will work her weather magic probably when luffy fights him.
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Law's parent was working for Dofla. He was killed by Dofla but Doflamingo deslcided to adopt the boy and raise him.
but then dd took over dressarosa 3 years later and became and shichibukai while law was growing to be a pirate but never been to dressarosa so Idk about raising him but motivating him thro killing his parents and saying grow strong from this and come back for the heart seat or something. Oda will put his twist on it
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@wolfwoof:
Revolutionaries took over the coloseum area. There's the first and easiest excuse that pops to mind
They have already shown that they don't respect Dressrosa's sovreignity by sending in spies and agents
Given sufficient reason they'll be in there in a heartbeat. How it happens is debatable, but that they will go in there is to me inevitable.
they sent spies and agents when they wee convinced that doflamingo had resigned from his shichibukai status
no shichibukai title = no protection on the colosseum
in that moment their only problem was the sheer number and power of the pirates involved and the fact that there were civilians in the colosseum.
but the situation has changed.that being said,being this a story written by somebody,anything can happen if Oda wants..i'm just stating what i think will happen given the "rules" that Oda himself gave us.we will see who between us is right.
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I dont know why but I have a feeling someone will die in this arc.yes I know that no one dies in op but after monet's death(?) I think that oda will kill characters off more often.what's your thoughts?
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Chapter is out and I'm off to sleep ~_~
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I wonder how replacing Law's heart with Caesar's really mattered. Didn't Tashigi hurt Monet by cutting her wing, even though it wasn't really her wing?
Edit: Nevermind, it still makes sense as a hiding place.
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Chopper is my favorite Strawhat, and I know he always does this, but I really hope one day he stops crying when danger is coming. I want him to man up and become the monster he could be. I want people to be afraid of Chopper like before lol.
After all we heard about Dressrosa, I also find it strange how we haven't seen anything Concerning the revolutionaries. One would think they would be trying to liberate an island where people are being turned into toys.
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Maybe I'm missing something very simple, but doesn't Doflamingo need both Caesar and the factory to create SMILE? Couldn't Law have achieved his goal by just killing Caesar at the first opportunity? Sorry if this has been asked and answered to death already.
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Well ceasar heart was in his body. So he did bring it.
But I wonder why is it so important that ceasar stay alive.
Yes but putting it in his own body is brilliant. He seems to have started this mission with the likely chance that he will die, so if he gets killed, that helps him achieve his mission at the same time. :P
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Is there a chapter next week?
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but then dd took over dressarosa 3 years later and became and shichibukai while law was growing to be a pirate but never been to dressarosa so Idk about raising him but motivating him thro killing his parents and saying grow strong from this and come back for the heart seat or something. Oda will put his twist on it
If he killed him to motive Law that would be stupid that he excpect Law to be faithful to him Plus Dofla don't seems to kill those close to him in a whim.
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I dont know why but I have a feeling someone will die in this arc.yes I know that no one dies in op but after monet's death(?) I think that oda will kill characters off more often.what's your thoughts?
Monet isn't dead and no one is getting kill.
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Chopper is my favorite Strawhat, and I know he always does this, but I really hope one day he stops crying when danger is coming. I want him to man up and become the monster he could be. I want people to be afraid of Chopper like before lol.
After all we heard about Dressrosa, I also find it strange how we haven't seen anything Concerning the revolutionaries. One would think they would be trying to liberate an island where people are being turned into toys.
The revolutionaries would need to know the situation first and then have the power and preparation needed to act.
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Maybe I'm missing something very simple, but doesn't Doflamingo need both Caesar and the factory to create SMILE? Couldn't Law have achieved his goal by just killing Caesar at the first opportunity? Sorry if this has been asked and answered to death already.
Doflamingo would still be able to deal with Kaidou for a certain amount of time. And in the meantime he could think of a solution.
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Is there a chapter next week?
16 chars of yes.