@Aka:
tenryuubito would never give theyr blood to someone out of they status
Congratulations, you completely missed the point.
@Aka:
tenryuubito would never give theyr blood to someone out of they status
Congratulations, you completely missed the point.
Dumbest theory ever. why do people insist on writing the first thing that comes to there mind.
Because thats what a theory is. kinda.
I really liked Aladdin! And how he can move on solid ground like it´s nothing!!
I see no reasons why merfolks can't walk well on land. We did see merfolks using bubbles in FI, but I think that's because it's more convenient to do so.
They may not be able to run (they can hop around, maybe), but I'm sure they can walk well on land. I believe they can walk on land just like humans can swim in water.
Saying melfolks can't move well on land is like saying goats can't climb well.
Saying melfolks can't move well on land is like saying goats can't climb well.
Goats are MADE for climbing, merfolk are made for water.
Remember this fish granny "Cocolo" from Water 7 has had her tail fin split so she could walk on land …
I think she said that was a natural happening...
Remember this fish granny "Cocolo" from Water 7 has had her tail fin split so she could walk on land …
I think she said that was a natural happening...
But look at Neptune. He's really old looking and his tail isn't split. I think mermaids choose whether or not they want to. Aladdin seemed to be over 30. >_> Maybe the tail splitting was just a convenient explanation for why nobody knew she was a mermaid?
even if they split the tail at 30, they can fuse it back at will, as Kokoro did
I think only the mermaids can split her tail
Aladdin just chose to not fuse it because he didn't want to wear pants.
I was thinking that Kizaru wants to take Arlong back to (one of) the tenryuubito who had Tiger as a slave. Kind of like a compensation.
But then you think about Arlong's, possible, rule in Jinbe joining the Shichibukai, and I don't see why the tenryuubito would care about peace between races to let Arlong go in some kind of deal.
I was thinking that Kizaru wants to take Arlong back to (one of) the tenryuubito who had Tiger as a slave. Kind of like a compensation.
But then you think about Arlong's, possible, rule in Jinbe joining the Shichibukai, and I don't see why the tenryuubito would care about peace between races to let Arlong go in some kind of deal.
I've posted that theory several pages ago:
My prediction is that the Tenryuubito ordered the marines to bring sun pirates to be their slaves, as revenge against Tiger for what he did, and Borsalino intends to bring Arlong to the Tenryuubito, but Jinbe will intervene and somehow make a deal with the WG to let Arlong and the other sun pirates go, and be free, in exchange for him becoming a Shichibukai… And that is how he ended considering himself responsible for Arlong's actions in East Blue, since it was thanks to him that Arlong was free to do what he did, and it was also thanks to him that even though the marines knew about his evil doings, they didn't do a thing against Arlong, because of the deal Jinbe made with the WG.
The tenryuubito doesn't care about it, but instead it would be the WG who would have an interest in having Jinbe as an ally, and they would be the ones to try to make a deal with him, Jinbe's conditions to become a shichibukai would include Arlong's release, and if Arlong had been turned into a slave already by the time Jinbe makes the deal, the WG are the ones who would have to deal with the tenryuubito to get Arlong (they probably would purchase him from them, or something).
I thought that as well. Arlong will be released in exchange for Jinbei being an Shichibukai
and I don't see why the tenryuubito would care about peace between races to let Arlong go in some kind of deal.
If humans and fishmen are in peace and can cohabit then we could say that fishmen are really a part of the human world and so their enslaving would become illegal…Which isn't in the interest of Celestial Dragon.
@Monkey:
If humans and fishmen are in peace and can cohabit then we could say that fishmen are really a part of the human world and so their enslaving would become illegal…Which isn't in the interest of Celestial Dragon.
Then why are humans also slaves? The Boa sisters are an example.
The humans who are slaves are either criminals or people from country that aren't part of the world government.
Oh, I see. I need to reread Sabaody, lol.
^ nice avi, Rene
Dunno if Pandaman appeared, i never check.
this chapter was so sad T_T
I really liked Aladdin! And how he can move on solid ground like it´s nothing!!
Aladdin: Hey fishes, guess what?!
Fishes: What? :3
Aladdin:
[qimg]http://pics.livejournal.com/skadi_glastheim/pic/00060k57[/qimg]Fishes: FFFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSH!!!
[qimg]http://pics.livejournal.com/skadi_glastheim/pic/00061sq3[/qimg]
I can totally see the 'Deal with it' picture.
But look at Neptune. He's really old looking and his tail isn't split. I think mermaids choose whether or not they want to. Aladdin seemed to be over 30. >_> Maybe the tail splitting was just a convenient explanation for why nobody knew she was a mermaid?
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v44/c423/18.html
It looks like (can't be sure) her tail is fused here, and it can be split into feet at will. Alternatively perhaps only females can do it, but I dunno.
@Monkey:
The humans who are slaves are either criminals or people from country that aren't part of the world government.
What about Koala?
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v44/c423/18.html
It looks like (can't be sure) her tail is fused here, and it can be split into feet at will. Alternatively perhaps only females can do it, but I dunno.
This really shouldn't be an issue at all, they can split their tails and walk on land conversely when they go back into the water their tails fuse again. simple
And if they don't want to wear pants they go into land joined.
Alternatively if they want some action in the water they go.. spreaded.
I honestly don't think the Celestial Dragons care. It seems they enslave anyone. Taking care of a sick man rather than standing still is a punishable offence in their eyes. They always get what they want.
@Monkey:
The humans who are slaves are either criminals or people from country that aren't part of the world government.
Highly doubt that it applies only to criminals or excluded countries. IIRC one of the Celestial Dragons had an interest in a commoner who is a nurse and tried to enslave her like nothing.
Highly doubt that it applies only to criminals or excluded countries. IIRC one of the Celestial Dragons had an interest in a commoner who is a nurse and tried to enslave her like nothing.
He didn't tried to enslave her, he tried to maker her his wife, that's not the same thing ^^;;. (the wives he didn't want anymore, return to their "normal" life).
And about Koala, I'd say like Reyairia said.
@Monkey:
He didn't tried to enslave her, he tried to maker her his wife, that's not the same thing ^^;;. (the wives he didn't want anymore, return to their "normal" life).
And about Koala, I'd say like Reyairia said.
It would probably if that guy was your husband. Bleh. No way you are doing anything willingly for him.
Highly doubt that it applies only to criminals or excluded countries. IIRC one of the Celestial Dragons had an interest in a commoner who is a nurse and tried to enslave her like nothing.
He didn't enslave her, he forced her to be one of his wives. Probably isn't any different, but she technically wasn't a slave.
I figure the CD are exceptions and can enslave anybody, but regular slavers are bound to the rules of not enslaving anybody but criminals - and knowing Absolute Justice, they most likely label anybody who isn't from a WG island as a criminal too.
Do ppl still think a bigger badder enemy is going to show up to out-villain Hodi and Van Der Decken? I know we're currently in a flashback but I think even that internalizes the fact that the bad guys in this arc is all we're getting.
@Monkey:
The humans who are slaves are either criminals or people from country that aren't part of the world government.
You are parcially wrong. The ones who were criminals or people from other countries that weren't part of the world government were the people working in Tequila Wolf. Anyone can become a slave of a tenryuubito without any kind of discrimination as far as we know, hell,they can do wathever they please, as we were show they could go arround shotting inocent people if they wanted.
@Monkey:
He didn't tried to enslave her, he tried to maker her his wife, that's not the same thing ^^;;. (the wives he didn't want anymore, return to their "normal" life).
And about Koala, I'd say like Reyairia said.
Actually it is, being a slave is being forced aganist your will to a certain lifestyle annoying-happy-eyes-that-makes-me-look-intelligent…but anyway that's not my point (since she's technically not a slave), my point is that it's highly unlikely that koala's hometown is outside the WG since none of its inhabitants were slaves.
You are parcially wrong. The ones who were criminals or people from other countries that weren't part of the world government were the people working in Tequila Wolf. Anyone can become a slave of a tenryuubito without any kind of discrimination as far as we know, hell,they can do wathever they please, as we were show they could go arround shotting inocent people if they wanted.
^this pretty sumarized everything I wanted to say.
@Monkey:
He didn't tried to enslave her, he tried to maker her his wife, that's not the same thing ^^;;. (the wives he didn't want anymore, return to their "normal" life).
You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
You are parcially wrong. The ones who were criminals or people from other countries that weren't part of the world government were the people working in Tequila Wolf. Anyone can become a slave of a tenryuubito without any kind of discrimination as far as we know, hell,they can do wathever they please, as we were show they could go arround shotting inocent people if they wanted.
Yeah, the people working in Tequila Wolf were already slaves. It was mentioned that the people working on it were criminals or those from islands not part of the WG. It was anime only but I don't see why it wouldn't make sense if they were slaves.
Actually it is, being a slave is being forced aganist your will to a certain lifestyle annoying-happy-eyes-that-makes-me-look-intelligent…but anyway that's not my point (since she's technically not a slave), my point is that it's highly unlikely that koala's hometown is outside the WG since none of its inhabitants were slaves.
True, I just think that by calling the nurse a wife, Charloss was exploiting a loophole. It still is slavery and forcing and whatever you want to call it, but it's not because of a technicality, it's a loophole.
Just cause they weren't all slaves doesn't mean that it isn't outside of the WG. It just meant they weren't enslaved or jailed yet.
Then again, I doubt the WG actually regulates it anyway.
@Monkey:
He didn't tried to enslave her, he tried to maker her his wife, that's not the same thing ^^;;. (the wives he didn't want anymore, return to their "normal" life).
The only thing is different is the title and probably the room that she will sleep. Roswald is going to treat her the same as the slaves.
@guy:
Seeing Fisher Tiger refuse the blood made me cry and be disappoint. He was supposed to be the most accept of fishman/human friendship, then at the last moment he wussed out and took arlong's side. I hated that Oda let him break his character. it is the first decision I truly dislike about OP.
um…what? .__.
The only thing is different is the title and probably the room that she will sleep. Roswald is going to treat her the same as the slaves.
I don't think that celestian dragons' wives are marked like slaves, and they can hope to return to their normal life one day, that's not possible for a slave. And even if the life of woman who's been forced to be the wife of celestial dragon musn't be a bed of roses, it's certainly not at the same level of a slave's life.
And well, we don't know how Charlos (and not Roswald) treat his wives. If I'd have to guess, I'd say he treat them a little better than a mere slave (of course I can be wrong, but we can't really know).
@Zik:
Do ppl still think a bigger badder enemy is going to show up to out-villain Hodi and Van Der Decken? I know we're currently in a flashback but I think even that internalizes the fact that the bad guys in this arc is all we're getting.
We still haven't seen the Candy Factory and where Hodi got his pills or who assassinated the queen.
@Monkey:
I don't think that celestian dragons' wives are marked like slaves, and they can hope to return to their normal life one day, that's not possible for a slave. And even if the life of woman who's been forced to be the wife of celestial dragon musn't be a bed of roses, it's certainly not at the same level of a slave's life.
And well, we don't know how Charlos (and not Roswald) treat his wives. If I'd have to guess, I'd say he treat them a little better than a mere slave (of course I can be wrong, but we can't really know).
I don't think we were talking about them being marked as slaves. Just that being forced to be his wife is basically slavery. She wouldn't want to be there and wives are typically expected to do…wife duties...No way is anyone doing..those duties willingly for that asshat. Under threat of death or him killing others if she refuses type of underhanded stuff is the only way. And I doubt she gets paid. I highly doubt he treats his wives better than slaves since the Celestials seem more interested in collectible people that come with their happy meal combo.
1. the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune.
Reading Comprehension Deluxe
It's sad when someone doesn't have it.
Did you even read the post he quoted?
He was supposed to be the most accept of fishman/human friendship
When was it ever said he was the most accepting of humans?
I hated that Oda let him break his character.
But he didn't break character. He even stated he had an internal conflict regarding humans 1 chapter before his death.
Did you even read the post he quoted?
When was it ever said he was the most accepting of humans?
But he didn't break character. He even stated he had an internal conflict regarding humans 1 chapter before his death.
Well, that's what I meant. The random guy from the other forum has faulty reading comprehension, and it wasn't directed at MDL.
lol @ the misunderstanding. XD
Well, that's what I meant. The random guy from the other forum has faulty reading comprehension, and it wasn't directed at MDL.
Ah. My mistake then.
There are 3 "big" guys at the moment:
Hody and Van Der Decken, who will probably be the main antagonists in this ARC, just to make a link between the fishmen, Fishman Island, and Luffy & co. (that's where the flashback + the rest of the ARC will be leading to in my opinion).
Then there still is Caribboo, who will show up again at some point. (He is after the mermaids, and Shiraoshi in particular)
I think that will be enough, since we didn't get to see how strong the fishmen are when they eat their pills yet, and Luffy already mentionned that the fishman swordman is strong, which makes me think Hodi's crew with their pills will be a good match for Luffy's crew.
The mermaid oracle probably saw Luffy fight Hodi's men (i.e. fishmen) in a "war", but did not know that he was fighting to protect the Kingdom and the Island. I'm guessing things will be clearer after the fight :-)
Madame Shirley clearly stated that the person was destroying Fishman Island.
Not trashing the place, destroying it.
Maybe Madame Shirley was tripping on acid. LSD and the like can do that to a person.
Then how did she successfully predict things before that ? ^^
Then how did she successfully predict things before that ? ^^
Back to the brush with you.
@Monkey:
I don't think that celestian dragons' wives are marked like slaves, and they can hope to return to their normal life one day, that's not possible for a slave. And even if the life of woman who's been forced to be the wife of celestial dragon musn't be a bed of roses, it's certainly not at the same level of a slave's life.
And well, we don't know how Charlos (and not Roswald) treat his wives. If I'd have to guess, I'd say he treat them a little better than a mere slave (of course I can be wrong, but we can't really know).
Read this:
1. the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune.
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Being slave does not always equals = having a mark, being cuffed, inside a cage, etc.
Just cause they weren't all slaves doesn't mean that it isn't outside of the WG. It just meant they weren't enslaved or jailed yet.
Then again, I doubt the WG actually regulates it anyway.
What a situational argument…"just because he isn't killing right now doesn't mean he won't kill in the future and become a mass murderer"...
The translation of the chapter 623 by Cnet:
http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/29533