Oda is a genius to create a setting like that.
One Piece Geography
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I made a map long time ago… xD
It's enormous and could deform the thread xDD
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When Kokoro said that you had to pass through the Florian Triangle to get to FI, I assumed it was larger than depicted on your map; what do you think?
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Could be Mink Men….?
Or something else, maybe those tails aren't real and are just attached....[qimg]http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/886/screenshot20100509at181.png[/qimg]
Wonder how much devil fruit users would sell for.
Having someone pop up as WE GOTTA RUBBER MAN HEAAAHH RUBBA MAAAAAN HEAAAH" on the market would probably create quite an uproar
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I made a map long time ago… xD
It's enormous and could deform the thread xDD
I don't think East Blue and South Blue are enclosed by water like that. From what we've seen, I get the feeling the only large sources of land would be the Redline. With everything else just being Islands. The OP world seems like a lot more water than large masses of land. Making DF's all the more dangerous.
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There are large islands in east blue. Oda's map has this big island northeast.
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The Grand Line is small, what's with it being like 1/3 of the world there.
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Question!
We still don't know the exact location of Zoro's village? (Besides being less than a day travel from Goa's/Fushia's island)
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Question!
We still don't know the exact location of Zoro's village? (Besides being less than a day travel from Goa's/Fushia's island)
No, I don't think we know about it's exact location.
By the way, how do you think that people (like merchants) are travelling between the Blues? look at the maps of East Blue, we don't know what is in the top part of the map. Are there passages in the Red Line, that allow people to travel between one Blue to another?
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No, I don't think we know about it's exact location.
By the way, how do you think that people (like merchants) are travelling between the Blues? look at the maps of East Blue, we don't know what is in the top part of the map. Are there passages in the Red Line, that allow people to travel between one Blue to another?
just go over the land probably
but if you want to go somewhere over the grandline then you would need a huge ship and some seastone
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No, I don't think we know about it's exact location.
By the way, how do you think that people (like merchants) are travelling between the Blues? look at the maps of East Blue, we don't know what is in the top part of the map. Are there passages in the Red Line, that allow people to travel between one Blue to another?
I figure the economies within each blue/island are stable by themselves really. Each island seems to be a self-sustaining community. I'm sure the government probably ship some stuff to them, but it doesn't seem like to many merchants sail from blue to blue.
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Is it just me, or have some episodes of the anime portrayed the direction of the Grand Line wrongly? I vaguely recall seeing the anime showing the Straw Hats going west, but it's actually east towards the New World.
I don't recall much since I haven't watched the newer episodes since I've read it. shrug
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I don't watch the anime, so I don't know. However with the way the grandline is structured (which of course we don't even know how it is exactly) they could possibly travel westward for a little while.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1053/opcrocusgrandlineus8.jpg
Their log pose may steer them to an island that backtracks or zig zags slightly for example, but even then it would likely be toward the north or south as well in order to make some progression. I would not be surprised if it was an anime mistake though.
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Is it just me, or have some episodes of the anime portrayed the direction of the Grand Line wrongly? I vaguely recall seeing the anime showing the Straw Hats going west, but it's actually east towards the New World.
I don't recall much since I haven't watched the newer episodes since I've read it. shrug
For years I used to think that they sail westwards because of the scene that shows them entering the Grand Line doesn't make it look like they do a 135° turn but rather a 45° one in the anime. What other secenes are you talking about?
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in order to pass to the NW and u r a pirate u have to go through FI right?
then how after red line there are 4 paths?
and before it 5 different?
it will be like in the twin capes that they choose their path?http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1053/opcrocusgrandlineus8.jpg
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Hey, will this be good enough to be put on the first post?
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previously i kinda confused about GL geography. these images really helped.
& i found this on devaintart
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hello..
nubi want 2 join here…
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Hey, will this be good enough to be put on the first post?
! http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs51/f/2009/299/e/5/Map_of_Grand_Line___part_1_by_KukriBlades.png
! My own work.didnt they have to pass skypeia to go to jaya
bc they couldnt stay long or their pose would adjust to that island
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@Chopper:
didnt they have to pass skypeia to go to jaya
bc they couldnt stay long or their pose would adjust to that island
bro they went to jaya first then skypiea nice
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bro they went to jaya first then skypiea nice
braaaaaa they went to jaya bc they wanted to go to skypeia but they didnt knnow how to go vertically into the sky i just reread the entire series lol so …..
what im tryin to say is they had to pass up skypeoa then go back to it so on the map they should be flipped
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Good job :) But i think Nami will soon make the whole map of the world
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Good job :) But i think Nami will soon make the whole map of the world
cant wait for that in a data book
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I really hope Oda draws the map Nami makes in e very detail in the very end. Maybe a fold out one..
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I guess Brennen, putting this old map from Oda up also can`t be wrong.
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If the maps Shakky and Crocus imagined are right, its difficult to say which rout the SH took.
Its in prespective, so short distance's near the second part of Red Line, aren't actually that short.
We know that W7 is the final Island.
We know that L.R.L.L. is the penultimate Island.
And Jaya is the third from the end.
The SH got out of their rout to go to Alabasta, but (I'm not sure) I believe that once the route is set they will always go back to the same route. So Alabasta was just a detour.
While being a detour I guess it would be possible to skip some islands.
Drum is an Island they found by luck.
Little Garden is the second island of the route.
Whiskey Peak is the first.We can easily make the Tarai Current, and Shabondy Archipelago, Marine ford and Enies Lobby are the last islands from the Right Route, and ID, in the calm belt.
It takes about a week to go from Amazone Lily to Impel Down by "pirate ship" so I guess it is located in line with W7, since from W7 to Fishman Island would take 5 days.So everything depends on the TRAIN speed, taking into account that Alabasta was a detour, the route that would make more sense would be the one on the Left. But Enies Lobby is in the route on the RIGHT.
So if the train can make it in 5/6 hours, then that was the route, if it can't I dunno.
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@Don:
I guess Brennen, putting this old map from Oda up also can`t be wrong.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/4095876/003.jpg.htmlIt can be because no fucking way is the OP world that small.
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@Don:
I guess Brennen, putting this old map from Oda up also can`t be wrong.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/4095876/003.jpg.htmlI think that's just East Blue, but it's difficult to tell.
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i just like to say that i love this thread :)
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Hi guys hvnt read the thread yet so might find my answer later but here:
Maybe the mangas explained but how did Ace know Luffy's course to want to leave a message at Drum?From what I understood from crocus and shakky there are 7 sea routes which take you to different trails of island right?Maybe all the sea routes interconnect at Drum island and alabastaso that's why ? Is that the case?
wait can som1 explain why was Ace at almost the beginning of the GL anyway?Wouldnt BB be further away?Plus did Ace come through reverse mountain again or did he leave NW to travel back down?In any case wouldnt this mean again having to stick to one sea route which makes the chances of meeting luffy even less? Although I'm sure you can get knowledgeable about all the routes and their paths.Of course the eternal poses can explain too.But still leaves unexplained first question. I dnt how I find geography so difficult let alone O'P's. t.y
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He must have simply heard somewhere what route they took. Maybe he heard some rumors from Whiskey Peak and so knew which islands would come next. Because the route from Whiskey Peak leads to Alabasta through a few island and Ace was able to get from Drum to Alabasta with Log Pose (at least I suppose so), they all must be located in the same route. But it was just a coincidence that Luffy went to Drum, because they had the Eternal Pose.
And Ace was at the beginning of the Grand Line because Blackbeard was there too. Remember that he 'destroyed' the Drum Kingdom.
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@Oksa: I understand yes i thought it might have been rumors and oh yeeeeh I forgot about that!need to do a mangas reread asap I rushed so much with the anime when i"discovered op" that I notice I barely know much of the OP world.Which is why im reading this thread thank you for the fast reply
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@JERK:
It can be because no fucking way is the OP world that small.
Deep breath, and look carefully.
I think that's just East Blue, but it's difficult to tell.
It's obviously East Blue, and a bit of the GL (presumably the new world)
It's even got lines showing the islands they visited before arriving at reverse mountain.
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I did look carefully. The Red Line is visible on either side. There's no way our journey across East Blue went from Manchuria to Spain in terms of distance, that would be stupid.
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@JERK:
I did look carefully. The Red Line is visible on either side. There's no way our journey across East Blue went from Manchuria to Spain in terms of distance, that would be stupid.
Regardless of what makes sense and what doesn't, that sketch is no different from these more detailed maps provided by Oda:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3524/opeastbluerv8.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5423/opeastbluefirstlogqq8.jpgIf you reference the first of the two above, you can get see how far Arlong Park is from Loguetown, and we know the travel time between Arlong park and Loguetown was only a few days. I doubt Oda put much thought into it. That said, I never added it because it is a crappy version of what we already have.
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See, you're assuming that the One Piece World has the same diameter as ours.
Travel through the GL may have seemed slow, as they always had something to do on each island, never mind the perilous dangers of navigating the sea itself.
EDIT: After seeing brennen's map, the sea at the bottom seems to not be the New World, but Paradise. I thought the exit at reverse mountain was on the left.
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I really wish Oda would give us a timeline. There are so many things that bug me about their journey.
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@gotta<3OP:
It takes about a week to go from Amazone Lily to Impel Down by "pirate ship" so I guess it is located in line with W7, since from W7 to Fishman Island would take 5 days.
Amazon lily is not on the Grand Line, it's in the calm belt, so it's not an island you can go with the log pose.
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Regardless of what makes sense and what doesn't, that sketch is no different from these more detailed maps provided by Oda:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3524/opeastbluerv8.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5423/opeastbluefirstlogqq8.jpgIf you reference the first of the two above, you can get see how far Arlong Park is from Loguetown, and we know the travel time between Arlong park and Loguetown was only a few days. I doubt Oda put much thought into it. That said, I never added it because it is a crappy version of what we already have.
I'd prefer not to take those maps too seriously.
It's like those fan calculations on how Luffy's adventure has only been 6 weeks so far or whatever.Speculation like that just diminishes the grand scope of their adventure, to me.
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Those maps were not drawn by Oda so much as an anonymous fictional character in Oda's universe, a universe in which comprehensive and fully accurate maps are virtually nonexistent due to limited technology.
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EDIT: After seeing brennen's map, the sea at the bottom seems to not be the New World, but Paradise. I thought the exit at reverse mountain was on the left.
Bad memory? They always made it excruciatingly clear to me that they've been sailing East.
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@gotta<3OP:
We know that L.R.L.L. is the penultimate Island.
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And Jaya is the third from the end.
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The SH got out of their rout to go to Alabasta, but (I'm not sure) I believe that once the route is set they will always go back to the same route. So Alabasta was just a detour.
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While being a detour I guess it would be possible to skip some islands.
Drum is an Island they found by luck.Actually they use an Eternal Post to get to Alabasta, suggesting they skipped some islands. You guys make a good point about Ace though I don't think we'll ever find out how Ace knew to ask about Luffy at Drum. Also, look at this: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v17/c154/5.html
In ch154 Ace says he'll wait for Luffy in Alabasta for 10 days. How the hell would Ace know they were going to Alabasta unless it was in the same path as Drum? Aaaand remember they found their way to Drum accidentally, so it's actually impossible that he KNEW Luffy was there. It's more likely that he was just asking about Luffy everywhere he went because he knew Luffy would be in the 'early' parts of the GL
Another thing… I've always believed that they skipped a large portion of the Grandline via Sky island (or should I say the Sky Sea). Remember there is an entire ocean in the Sky over the Grandline, and it is not stationary, so it's quite conceivable that they floated pass their intended path in the GL, and skipped a section of the GL. In other words, they also skipped a bunch of islands between Jaya and LRLL
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Using inaccurate maps would be a pretty period of Oda if he's trying to capture a sense of the age of exploration.
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Plus isn't there explicitly no world map? Isn't it Nami's dream to chart the world accurately?
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@JERK:
Using inaccurate maps would be a pretty period of Oda if he's trying to capture a sense of the age of exploration.
My favorite age :wub:
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When Nami wants to achieve that world map, she has to visit all the Blues after her adventure with the crew.
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Plus isn't there explicitly no world map? Isn't it Nami's dream to chart the world accurately?
I vaguely remember Oda stating that he'll publish a world map once OP is finished.
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have we been able to figure out where this is in the onepiece world with what we know?
www.mangastream.com/read/one_piece/83002268/18 its above fishertigers head
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What about this,
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3460/grandline2000px.jpg
I know its not 100% accurate but i like it xD
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@Chopper:
have we been able to figure out where this is in the onepiece world with what we know?
www.mangastream.com/read/one_piece/83002268/18 its above fishertigers head
It appears to be a massive landmass with a long river system or series of canals running across it. The largest area that the Straw Hats have visited is Alabasta and this doesn't look anything like it so it's unlikely to be a place that we've seen much of it.
At a guess, it's a portion of the Redline; probably the area surrounding Mariejoa.