It's been around since Big Mom was first mentioned and I completely agree with it. If it's someone we already heard of, it's most likely Lola's mom.
Damn, really?! /SARCASM
Get it know? xD
Sorry,had to post that ^^
It's been around since Big Mom was first mentioned and I completely agree with it. If it's someone we already heard of, it's most likely Lola's mom.
Damn, really?! /SARCASM
Get it know? xD
Sorry,had to post that ^^
Damn, really?! /SARCASM
Get it know? xD
Sorry,had to post that ^^
I don't know why I didn't get that. Maybe because I didn't sleep for 30 hours. I'll stay awake until the new chapter is released though.
I don't know why I didn't get that. Maybe because I didn't sleep for 30 hours. I'll stay awake until the new chapter is released though.
I didn't realize it's sarcasm also and im fresh.
but the "…" gives it the sarcastic tone.
It would be dissapointing if someone as weak as Lola was a Yonkou's child. Not to mention, there's that Whitebeard ally that looks like her.
Anyways, I like that idea last page of her being a Giant. Imagine a large crew of Giants with the Captain having some sort of Logia.
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Anyways, I like that idea last page of her being a Giant. Imagine a large crew of Giants with the Captain having some sort of Logia.
then they would need a HUge ship i like that idea too
then they would need a HUge ship i like that idea too
They will probably use the same Viking longships like Dorry & Brogy's crew used.
Bump. Here you go "Fire Fist" and others who will undoubtedly wish to discuss Blackbeard, Big Mama, Kaidou, and Shanks.
Yeah, so I think that the strawhats will first defeat Big mom then Kaidou then they will meet with Shanks and finally defeat blackbeard.
So four days (in one piece time) till Big Mom's tea party right, that can give us a hundred chapters or so
I wonder how long it'll be until the Strawhats reach Linlin. I doubt it'll be the very next arc… Though I still can't see how they can just continue on to a different adventure now with this threat hanging over them. Though I guess it'll be like the BW saga. Hopefully that means that Tamago will travel with them for a while, I like that guy.
Ay carumba, I just noticed we really might have another Ara/Alabasta situation with Big Mom/Mam:
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Ay carumba, I just noticed we really might have another Ara/Alabasta situation with Big Mom/Mam:
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Possibly but Luffy seemed to indicate he was coming to the New World - so the battle for FI may not be fought on FI - I think Luffy is going to have to fight his way up a ladder or 2 before he starts taking on the big guns.
Possibly but Luffy seemed to indicate he was coming to the New World - so the battle for FI may not be fought on FI - I think Luffy is going to have to fight his way up a ladder or 2 before he starts taking on the big guns.
Yeah, I only meant the name. Look again.
For now I'm thinking that we'll just get a small battle between the two before there is some sort of an agreement, like Big Mom letting Luffy go to see just how long he'll survive in the New World with her allies after him.
I assume that Oda was just straight translating it to mam, which sounds like what we pronounce as mom. They would have the same characters, and I'm sure we're not supposed to pronounce it like ma'am.
So four days (in one piece time) till Big Mom's tea party right, that can give us a hundred chapters or so
The strawhats don't have a deadline. She has a tea party in four days. Who cares. The tea party has nothing to do with the strawhats. If anything, the strawhats cancelled her tea party, by eating all her Candy. And she can't have a tea party with no candy. So the four days means nothing.
Whether the strawhats arrive in four days or fourty, she is still missing out on the fishman island candy cause it can't be made. She didn't give them a deadline. She just said come out into the new world. Not, you better get here in four days for my tea party. She didn't say "if your not here to beat me up at my tea party, I'm going to go and destroy fishman island" She just said come to the new world, I'll be waiting for you.
People got to stop throwing the strawhats into every event known to man. First mention of the Reverie and every week its non stop "the strawhats are going to go to the reverie next week after they beat Hody" Now Big Mam mentions a PERSONAL tea party where she proabbly just does what it says, drinks tea and eats candy, and people think the strawhats need to crash this party.
I highly doubt Oda just meantioned there being a tea party in 4 days time. Big Mam's island is only three days away from fishman island and she said to luffy come on up to the New World she didn't make it seem like she was a long way away. I also agree with what brennen.exe (I think) said about Big Mam's DF not being as generic as the Acid Acid fruit, though I cant think of anything else.
Wow. Didn't even know we had a thread like this.
Props to Brennen for bumping it up.
I also agree with what brennen.exe (I think) said about Big Mam's DF not being as generic as the Acid Acid fruit, though I cant think of anything else.
Maybe, though I think people are underestimating the potential utility of an Acid DF. Not only could it theoretically dissolve anything that it touched, but also:
A) Explode. Look up the Vinegar-Baking Soda reaction, and then imagine using far more potent ingredients, then put it through Manga Logic. Although, this is a good way to counter an Acid DF, as if BM really does have a super-acid stomach, making her swallow a bag of baking soda would probably make her explode. It would be a fitting end for her though . . .
B) Create Electricity. Lead-Acid Batteries work because the Acid reacts with the Lead plates to release electrons that are used to power a circuit. We're not talking Enel-levels of Electricity here, but creating large quantities of Acid could realistically create electricity if used properly.
C) Cause Mutations. This is pushing it, but DNA is short for Deoxyribonucleic acid and having control over acids could realistically let BM toy around with how DNA works. It would probably take someone with far more scientific prowess to use, but if used successfully it could let her create an entire army of mutant fighters from scratch.
D) Create Toxic Gases. Acids are dangerous in Aqueous form, but are downright fatal if in Gaseous form.
E) Get Really hot. Acids react Exothermally with Water, and often dangerously so.
Granted, some of these are hard to directly weaponize, but its not like having the "Acid Acid" DF would mean that all she can do is spit acid at people.
Maybe, though I think people are underestimating the potential utility of an Acid DF. Not only could it theoretically dissolve anything that it touched, but also:
A) Explode. Look up the Vinegar-Baking Soda reaction, and then imagine using far more potent ingredients, then put it through Manga Logic. Although, this is a good way to counter an Acid DF, as if BM really does have a super-acid stomach, making her swallow a bag of baking soda would probably make her explode. It would be a fitting end for her though . . .
B) Create Electricity. Lead-Acid Batteries work because the Acid reacts with the Lead plates to release electrons that are used to power a circuit. We're not talking Enel-levels of Electricity here, but creating large quantities of Acid could realistically create electricity if used properly.
C) Cause Mutations. This is pushing it, but DNA is short for Deoxyribonucleic acid and having control over acids could realistically let BM toy around with how DNA works. It would probably take someone with far more scientific prowess to use, but if used successfully it could let her create an entire army of mutant fighters from scratch.
D) Create Toxic Gases. Acids are dangerous in Aqueous form, but are downright fatal if in Gaseous form.
E) Get Really hot. Acids react Exothermally with Water, and often dangerously so.
Granted, some of these are hard to directly weaponize, but its not like having the "Acid Acid" DF would mean that all she can do is spit acid at people.
Great post man, makes the Acid Acid fruit a lot more credible to me but the name/overall abilities of the fruit seem a little bland. Also on this page http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/16037697/12 why is her head tilted? is it because shes lying down or what?
Great post man, makes the Acid Acid fruit a lot more credible to me but the name/overall abilities of the fruit seem a little bland. Also on this page http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/16037697/12 why is her head tilted? is it because shes lying down or what?
I think she's sitting down, but is in that panel leaning down to look at Bobbin. You can see her feet in that panel, so she's sitting down in a chair, but leaning forward and looking to the side.
Actually I can see Luffy's fight with her (if she has the acid acid df) starting with Luffy not being able to damage her on the outside then he get's swallowed somehow by Big Mam and she is shocked at him not dissolving, then Luffy attacks from the inside and wins?
The strawhats don't have a deadline. She has a tea party in four days. Who cares. The tea party has nothing to do with the strawhats. If anything, the strawhats cancelled her tea party, by eating all her Candy. And she can't have a tea party with no candy. So the four days means nothing.
I highly doubt Oda just mentioned there being a tea party in 4 days time. Big Mam's island is only three days away from fishman island and she said to luffy come on up to the New World she didn't make it seem like she was a long way away.
I agree with Kingdomkey here, dates and times shouldn't be ignored, as Oda rarely drops information like that without a purpose. So we know Big Mom was looking to eat Fishman Island candy during a tea party four days from now, and that her two henchman Lion-chan and Egg-chan would be leaving the following day– making the location they will meet at within three days' travel for the crew, which is about the duration of two short arcs or one longer saga. So no, not immediate, but soon, and relevant.
I also agree with what brennen.exe (I think) said about Big Mam's DF not being as generic as the Acid Acid fruit, though I cant think of anything else.
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Thing is that Magellan can dissolve anything as well. […] His ultimate is able to destroy all of Impel Down if he doesn't watch out, thats why I doubt that there is a higher level of "erosive power". I believe a simple acid fruit would be too redundant (if the focus is on eroding stuff with no freaky extra's). After all we are speaking of an Emperor here, her abilities must be absolutely terrifying and on the highest level possible. But who knows what Oda has in store, at least I can't imagine what else an acid fruit could do except what Magellan did a few hundred chapters ago.
As we have seen so far, the most powerful Paramecia fruits are usually the simplest ones. […] For acid-like ability, I'm guessing it would be simple too, like… Slurp Slurp. An ability that can melt objects and living creatures. Well, just a guess.. but just imagining for pure 'melting' skill, haha.
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It was me, but Jabra said it a little better than I did. Likewise, Jabra and srazysnake's discussion expanded on it much more. If I were to take a vague guess, the most obvious Devil Fruit power would have something to do with eating… a become/control type, not create/control. I mean, Oda implies in 651 that she ate her crew members, but I highly doubt Oda will make her a straight up cannibal, so turning them into candy or something and then eating them would make more sense. But turning them into something and having crazy stomach acid? The problem I see is that we already have the Baku Baku Fruit and the Doku Doku Fruit, which offer similar power sets to eating and eroding respectively. Oda's good at making WTF fruit powers though.
Also on this page http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/16037697/12 why is her head tilted? is it because shes lying down or what?
She's definitely sitting and leaning forward like Drake said, as you can see her feet on the floor and her hand on the chair.
Can't help but think Big Mam's ability has something to do with the whole fairy tale theme. An acid-fruit would feel so… non-Yonkou, also far too close to Magellan's ability. I highly doubt it's a logia, most likely paramecia. That would be too boring, though, so I say it's a mythical zoan fruit
Maybe, though I think people are underestimating the potential utility of an Acid DF. Not only could it theoretically dissolve anything that it touched, but also:
A) Explode. Look up the Vinegar-Baking Soda reaction, and then imagine using far more potent ingredients, then put it through Manga Logic. Although, this is a good way to counter an Acid DF, as if BM really does have a super-acid stomach, making her swallow a bag of baking soda would probably make her explode. It would be a fitting end for her though . . .
B) Create Electricity. Lead-Acid Batteries work because the Acid reacts with the Lead plates to release electrons that are used to power a circuit. We're not talking Enel-levels of Electricity here, but creating large quantities of Acid could realistically create electricity if used properly.
C) Cause Mutations. This is pushing it, but DNA is short for Deoxyribonucleic acid and having control over acids could realistically let BM toy around with how DNA works. It would probably take someone with far more scientific prowess to use, but if used successfully it could let her create an entire army of mutant fighters from scratch.
D) Create Toxic Gases. Acids are dangerous in Aqueous form, but are downright fatal if in Gaseous form.
E) Get Really hot. Acids react Exothermally with Water, and often dangerously so.
Granted, some of these are hard to directly weaponize, but its not like having the "Acid Acid" DF would mean that all she can do is spit acid at people.
That just sounds like Magellan's Doku Doku no Mi. I have faith in Oda being a bit more creative than that.
Somehow does Big Mum remind me of Boogieman from Ghostbusters:
I agree with Kingdomkey here, dates and times shouldn't be ignored, as Oda rarely drops information like that without a purpose. So we know Big Mom was looking to eat Fishman Island candy during a tea party four days from now, and that her two henchman Lion-chan and Egg-chan would be leaving the following day– making the location they will meet at within three days' travel for the crew, which is about the duration of two short arcs or one longer saga. So no, not immediate, but soon, and relevant.
Because she is the first emperor the SHs will most likely encounter in the NW, its fair to assume that she also rules over the first part of the NW which can be argued to be the weakest part to control because it
s the farthest away from Raftel.
Also, Big Mom having a fruit that turns things/people into candy is way too reminiscing of Majin Buu
The strawhats don't have a deadline. She has a tea party in four days. Who cares. The tea party has nothing to do with the strawhats. If anything, the strawhats cancelled her tea party, by eating all her Candy. And she can't have a tea party with no candy. So the four days means nothing.
Whether the strawhats arrive in four days or fourty, she is still missing out on the fishman island candy cause it can't be made. She didn't give them a deadline. She just said come out into the new world. Not, you better get here in four days for my tea party. She didn't say "if your not here to beat me up at my tea party, I'm going to go and destroy fishman island" She just said come to the new world, I'll be waiting for you.
People got to stop throwing the strawhats into every event known to man. First mention of the Reverie and every week its non stop "the strawhats are going to go to the reverie next week after they beat Hody" Now Big Mam mentions a PERSONAL tea party where she proabbly just does what it says, drinks tea and eats candy, and people think the strawhats need to crash this party.
I highly doubt Oda just meantioned there being a tea party in 4 days time. Big Mam's island is only three days away from fishman island and she said to luffy come on up to the New World she didn't make it seem like she was a long way away. I also agree with what brennen.exe (I think) said about Big Mam's DF not being as generic as the Acid Acid fruit, though I cant think of anything else.
pretty much explained it, it's only 3 days away and it make little sense to make the island that close, have the party in one extra day and have all the hype for Big Mom and just have tons of other arcs till we meet her, if he hypes the characters up with all the silhouettes and the conflict and goes out of his way to make this special time with in an easy range it seems to me it's setting it up for the SH's and them to have a conflict, I obviously don't think luffy's read to fight a yonkou but he shouldn't have been ready to fight a shichibukai that early on either, plus he'll probably get help from super novas
Tea party is gonna be used to introduce all of Big Moms crew.Unlike whitebeard and shanks,who we've known for years,She hasn't had that luxury.So put me in the "the strawhats will NOT be going to Big Mom's tea party" group.
Next chap will shine more light on the situation,see how the rest of the SH's react to this,the ministers/Neptune,Pekoms/Tomago.
Somebody already mentioned, that BM can have some mythical zoan DF, if so I might just have idea what model can it be. Namely: Baba Yaga or in Japan's case Onibaba. The character well known in many cultures also noted for consuming people.
Somebody already mentioned, that BM can have some mythical zoan DF, if so I might just have idea what model can it be. Namely: Baba Yaga or in Japan's case Onibaba. The character well known in many cultures also noted for consuming people.
I can see either one of those being a mythical Hito Hito model fruit.
Also, Big Mom having a fruit that turns things/people into candy is way too reminiscing of Majin Buu
It wouldn't be the first time a Buu similarity appeared in One Piece .
I also think the chances are quite high that she can turn people into food. It would fit the whole theme etc.
Baba Baba fruit also is quite the option. Since Baba is just as often used as Baba Yaga.
Edit: OP has a lot of similiarities to DBZ.
Seems like people allready forgot the female version of Tenshinhan sitting next to Big Mom?
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So four days (in one piece time) till Big Mom's tea party right, that can give us a hundred chapters or so
Why are you guys so hanged up on this party. It is most likely nothing of big importance and she just casually mentions it in order to get the entire plot rolling…
The strawhats don't have a deadline. She has a tea party in four days. Who cares. The tea party has nothing to do with the strawhats. If anything, the strawhats cancelled her tea party, by eating all her Candy. And she can't have a tea party with no candy. So the four days means nothing.
Whether the strawhats arrive in four days or fourty, she is still missing out on the fishman island candy cause it can't be made. She didn't give them a deadline. She just said come out into the new world. Not, you better get here in four days for my tea party. She didn't say "if your not here to beat me up at my tea party, I'm going to go and destroy fishman island" She just said come to the new world, I'll be waiting for you.
People got to stop throwing the strawhats into every event known to man. First mention of the Reverie and every week its non stop "the strawhats are going to go to the reverie next week after they beat Hody" Now Big Mam mentions a PERSONAL tea party where she proabbly just does what it says, drinks tea and eats candy, and people think the strawhats need to crash this party.
exactly my thinking…
Why are you guys so hanged up on this party. It is most likely nothing of big importance and she just casually mentions it in order to get the entire plot rolling…
Yea it could have been nothing more than the reason WHY fishman island can't get an extension on their candy making. She can't wait two weeks for the candy, if the party is in 4 days. Thus why extra upset over that.
And it also gives a reason WHY the people where there to collect candy at this time. It wasn't just some random showing up at the worst possible moment, for no reason than to collect the monthly offering. Its they were there because they had a party coming up.
Well anything. I just find it silly when this Tea party is connected with SH like they are some guests and they better hurry cause that is a really important event.
Well anything. I just find it silly when this Tea party is connected with SH like they are some guests and they better hurry cause that is a really important event.
Yea I don't get that either. If the tea party is at the next island, then so be it.
But I see no reason why the strawhats would SKIP and island to go to this tea party. Remember back at Whiskey Peak when Robin was going to give them a log pose that would have saved them time and gotten VIVI back to her home country that was on the verge of civil war. At that time Luffy broke the compass and said, you don't pick our course.
So what do you think would happen if one of these Big Mam guys gave Luffy an eternal pose (or whatever htey use in new world) to hurry and go to Big Mam? He would tell them to F OFF.
Well anything. I just find it silly when this Tea party is connected with SH like they are some guests and they better hurry cause that is a really important event.
The tea party probably gets all the big mam pirates at the same place at the same time and they are probably apprehanding all the candy that their countries owe them for the party. Thus it could be important. And the next deadline is two weeks from now. But honestly I dont think anything will happen at least until after two weeks. The strawhats still have to find van der deckens treasure.
Can we not call her BM it's just plain gross…
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Can we not call her BM it's just plain gross…
I will call her "Mama"
The tea party probably gets all the big mam pirates at the same place at the same time and they are probably apprehanding all the candy that their countries owe them for the party. Thus it could be important. And the next deadline is two weeks from now. But honestly I dont think anything will happen at least until after two weeks. The strawhats still have to find van der deckens treasure.
I mentioned this in the FI thread - but what if the Tea Party is a meeting between BM - Kaidou and Shanks to deal with Blackbeard. It seems like he is a threat that could threaten them all - Shanks alone knows not to underestimate him.
But wasn't it said she has her tea party every month? Not disproving that possibility but there is no implication backing it up, at all.
Edit: Sorry, reread that part, seems I jumped to conclusions myself.
I mentioned this in the FI thread - but what if the Tea Party is a meeting between BM - Kaidou and Shanks to deal with Blackbeard. It seems like he is a threat that could threaten them all - Shanks alone knows not to underestimate him.
Nah, there's no way Akainu will allow the 3 Emperors to meet together…
They were So careful about Whitebeard and Shanks Contacting, now With Akainu and The headquarters in enemy lines there's no way something like this will happen any time soon.
Nah, there's no way Akainu will allow the 3 Emperors to meet together…
They were So careful about Whitebeard and Shanks Contacting, now With Akainu and The headquarters in enemy lines there's no way something like this will happen any time soon.
I don't think the WG wanted to stop both of them from meeting. They wanted to wait. If they were to battle, the WG would wait for the victor, and then quickly swoop in and "take care" of business. Capture or even kill the victor.
Nah, there's no way Akainu will allow the 3 Emperors to meet together…
They were So careful about Whitebeard and Shanks Contacting, now With Akainu and The headquarters in enemy lines there's no way something like this will happen any time soon.
Really how would they - she is having a Tea Party, or at least that is what it is being advertised as.
Besides the WG had to use almost every spare Marine to control the War and that was on their home turf - you think the marines would wade into a Yonkou territory when they are trying to keep a lid on the 2nd Age of Pirates?
I don't think the WG wanted to stop both of them from meeting. They wanted to wait. If they were to battle, the WG would wait for the victor, and then quickly swoop in and "take care" of business. Capture or even kill the victor.
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nope, They were trying to stop them from meeting. What they are afraid of is a Team up between the Emperors.
Really how would they - she is having a Tea Party, or at least that is what it is being advertised as.
Besides the WG had to use almost every spare Marine to control the War and that was on their home turf - you think the marines would wade into a Yonkou territory when they are trying to keep a lid on the 2nd Age of Pirates?
Meetings between Emperors would Totally make the Marines look Weak as hell if they allowed it to happen.
Especially now that there focus is the New World.
Back then the focus was War, But they still Sent Fleets to prevent their meeting, If they didn't try to stop it now than it would mean they don't care about there position in the world cause a meeting like this is a downfall for the government.
Something like this would never be allowed to happen.
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nope, They were trying to stop them from meeting. What they are afraid of is a Team up between the Emperors.
Meetings between Emperors would Totally make the Marines look Weak as hell if they allowed it to happen.
Especially now that there focus is the New World.
Back then the focus was War, But they still Sent Fleets to prevent their meeting, If they didn't try to stop it now than it would mean they don't care about there position in the world cause a meeting like this is a downfall for the government.
Something like this would never be allowed to happen.
Unless they are counting on all 4 taking heavy losses and Blackbeard being defeated.
Or the Yonkou might just head there at the accepted day if the marine fleet could not stop Shanks and WB meeting then I doubt they would manage to contain 3 all heading to the same location. But it is just a theory I'm just certain the Tea Party will be more then what we think it is.
We thought the candy would be more than what we thought it was but we see how that turned out. The tea party may very well be a tea party though I'm sure somebody important will be there besides Big Mam.
I wonder if we'll see any characters that resemble the Mad Hatter or the March Hare at this tea party, since Big Mom's crew is giving off a bit of a "Wonderland" vibe.