I like this cover a lot
Volume 102 Predictions/Discussion
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I don't know why but the green smoke on Zoro's swords seems like such an anime kind of choice to me. I thought that Oda would keep it neutral, like he did with Boundman's smoke.
All in all a pretty "classic" cover. Not really exciting design wise, unfortunately. The initial concept of a coiling pink dragon would be rad, hope it end up being used in a future Luxury Edition redraw or something like that.
Now we await for a clean version and the tasty (hopefully) SBS
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I actually think the fact that everyone is showcasing their powers except Luffy, it is a good indication that Oda saved it for 103, where we'll be seeing the Worst Gen Trio Awakenings.
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First blue flames and after it black <3
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I’m inhaling copium for Sanji vs Queen to be extended to 17 pages in the volume release instead of 15 in the original WSJ release. Those small panels in the chapter are really frustrating.
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I’m inhaling copium for Sanji vs Queen to be extended to 17 pages in the volume release instead of 15 in the original WSJ release. Those small panels in the chapter are really frustrating.
Where is this from? Is it really extended?
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Really curious about the eyebrow as well and what Oda is planning. In the cover it has the Germa look and not the usual ezbrow like in the latest chapter after the fight
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Where is this from? Is it really extended?
Oh, no. Inhaling copium means I’m desperately hoping that that’s the case. My bad.
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Aah it is M3 dedicated, that's beatiful, and as expected Momo finally has a decent appearance in the overall bunch of volumes of the longest arc.
And once again, Momo and Yamato are avoided to be put together, even tho well, Yamato's just absent, but I guess it makes sense since this volume is not as centered on her as the previous ones.
I like it, another one!
Whatever Zoro's green flames are coming from!
Makes sense since Yamato largely wasn’t with Momo at this time aren’t always obligated to be with each other of course. As much as I want to cheer Zoro and the others on, I also can’t help still feel this empty void as to the short ends Usopp and others were given, but no point in worrying about that I guess.
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Where is this from? Is it really extended?
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Really curious about the eyebrow as well and what Oda is planning. In the cover it has the Germa look and not the usual ezbrow like in the latest chapter after the fight
The other one could simply be a drawing error
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Nope not really… In the color spread he made the same error as well... Which I doubt would happen twice.
I'm not sure what the issue is with Sanji's eyebrow. Regardless of whether or not it goes back afterward, the pose/moment on the cover is taken from during the fight when it was going in the Germa direction, so of course it's accurate to that.
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Not too fond of this cover, I like the Strawhats and Momo but Queen and King are sorta plastered on and in the way of Momo.
I wish the twin dragon motif had been kept. But I can also see Oda saving that for later.
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Nope not really… In the color spread he made the same error as well... Which I doubt would happen twice.
I mean, Oda's been drawing Sanji with the same eyebrow for 10 years now. Of course it's possible he switches it back because…he's not specifically thinking about it. If the volume changes it, or we see Sanji appear and it's fixed, then yeah.
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You better believe I do! I actually finished this during my Christmas break, when the forum was down, and I've been itching to post it.
https://i.imgur.com/eoMGQde.png
Or one with the logo
https://i.imgur.com/LJEP2XC.png
I could see it going either way for ending on 1035 or 1036. I'd use "The Pivotal Clash" or "Danger Beyond Imagination" for the title. So many chapter titles in this volume are specific to either Zoro's or Sanji's fight, so you can imagine the pockets of extreme toxicity that would break out if Oda chooses to favour one over the other.
It's actually pretty remarkable how accurate your placement of everyone was. Nice work!
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Blue fire huh? I used to roll my eyes at that prediction. Looks like I was wrong. First time for everything I suppose.
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Blue fire huh? I used to roll my eyes at that prediction. Looks like I was wrong. First time for everything I suppose.
Wait until the black Amaterasu flames EOS
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Wait until the black Amaterasu flames EOS
Definitely happening, no way Oda call Sanji Black Leg and won’t have his fire turn black at some point
The question is how? does his Raid Suit get fixed and wearing that gives him black flames or is it him learning to use Conquer’s haki like Luffy did
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Blue is Sanji's color, so I don't think his flames are changing color further.
It's weird that only now Sanji gets something that resembles his signature color. He's the Straw Hat least often seen wearing his color (even his post-TS design lacked any blue).
Next is Robin's violet/purple (which actually are different colors, but she's often seen wearing something of either color). Maybe her demon form is purple?
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Blue is Sanji's color, so I don't think his flames are changing color further.
It's weird that only now Sanji gets something that resembles his signature color. He's the Straw Hat least often seen wearing his color (even his post-TS design lacked any blue).
Next is Robin's violet/purple (which actually are different colors, but she's often seen wearing something of either color). Maybe her demon form is purple?
Agreed. Besides, the color blue signs the hottest a flame can get, IIRC. This is likely peak Sanji, his blue flames could even potentially beat Akainu's magma if taken literally.
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Agreed. Besides, the color blue signs the hottest a flame can get, IIRC. This is likely peak Sanji, his blue flames could even potentially beat Akainu's magma if taken literally.
I don't think there's any reason to take that kind of thing literally in One Piece.
Besides which, we can see in the process video that Oda changes his mind from yellow to blue partway through, which has me thinking the colour is more meant to represent the addition of electricity than a specific heat range.
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I don't think there's any reason to take that kind of thing literally in One Piece.
https://i.imgur.com/UoINqAR.pngBesides which, we can see in the process video that Oda changes his mind from yellow to blue partway through, which has me thinking the colour is more meant to represent the addition of electricity than a specific heat range.
Looks more like he used the yellow as a base than anything
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Besides which, we can see in the process video that Oda changes his mind from yellow to blue partway through, which has me thinking the colour is more meant to represent the addition of electricity than a specific heat range.
Considering Ifrit is directly related to flames and usually seen as the king/god of fire - and Sanji himself says his leg can sustain "hotter" flames now, I really, really doubt Oda's intended to depict electricity with the blue color here.
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Considering Ifrit is directly related to flames and usually seen as the king/god of fire - and Sanji himself says his leg can sustain "hotter" flames now, I really, really doubt Oda's intended to depict electricity with the blue color here.
I agree. Plus those lines that look like electric outbursts are most likely Haki. Because nowadays apparently every fight nights to have those visual indicators to show that an intensive fight is going on.
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Looks more like he used the yellow as a base than anything
Or a sudden burst of inspiration just coming to him in feeling like "Ya know, blue looks cooler."
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Considering Ifrit is directly related to flames and usually seen as the king/god of fire - and Sanji himself says his leg can sustain "hotter" flames now, I really, really doubt Oda's intended to depict electricity with the blue color here.
I'm not going to discount the possibility of Oda thinking that during the process and having it inform his choice to shift from yellow to blue (especially with Sanji saying it's hotter than the regular version) but the video of the process is what it is. The effect started out yellow, then became blue for some reason that could be anything from science to colour coding to pure aesthetics, with the flames and the electricity using the same colour in both cases.
I agree. Plus those lines that look like electric outbursts are most likely Haki. Because nowadays apparently every fight nights to have those visual indicators to show that an intensive fight is going on.
You should look over the actual fight again. The lightning from both Sanji's final attack and other things like Queen's Henry-type attack are drawn differently to the inked-in lightning haki can create. Sanji's lightning also trails off from his flames, not his actual leg or a point of impact. Sometimes Oda's use of lightning effects and cracks in the air can be frustratingly ambiguous, but all signs point to an actual electric charge in this one.
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The video definitely shows him erasing it before going in with the blue.
Without me looking at the video, if it is "erased", why can I still see it on the blue one?
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Or a sudden burst of inspiration just coming to him in feeling like "Ya know, blue looks cooler."
Interesting. Ifs and Buts were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers hands. Without being Charles Xavier or Jean Grey, all we have are the results of Oda's creative choices. The results being: "Sanji's hotter flame is blue" which coheres witrh "hotter flames are blue."
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Well so Zoro is green btw… While digital made it purple.
Maybe it will an Enel case where Oda will stick with the yellow lightning while all other media uses blue
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Without me looking at the video, if it is "erased", why can I still see it on the blue one?
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Interesting. Ifs and Buts were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers hands. Without being Charles Xavier or Jean Grey, all we have are the results of Oda's creative choices. The results being: "Sanji's hotter flame is blue" which coheres witrh "hotter flames are blue."
Because all we have is a rough version from Oda's digital colour tests, in which things not being 100% properly erased and having a smudge or two leftover isn't the end of the world?
I'm not lying to you about this. You can check. The video's right there.
From about 34 seconds there's yellow…
yellow with dark shadows…
A quick but imperfect eraser job…
And finally blue over the top of that…
I have full confidence those little leftover bits of yellow won't be there when we have the actual final colours.
Well so Zoro is green btw… While digital made it purple.
Maybe it will an Enel case where Oda will stick with the yellow lightning while all other media uses blue
Digital colour used yellow for Enel as well. One of the big draws for it is that it follows Oda's colours that little bit more closely than the anime. But it's pretty well established that Oda makes at least some of his colour choices on the fly when he gets to covers and colour spreads (see above lol). Could have forgotten (or not cared) that he'd said purple behind the scenes in the past.
The colour manga could perhaps handle it gracefully by leaving it purple when it's the sword going out of control and changing it to Zoro's green when he embraces its haki-drawing capability at the end of the fight to signal the power up. That's what the scene on the cover's meant to be anyway.
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Because all we have is a rough version from Oda's digital colour tests, in which things not being 100% properly erased and having a smudge or two leftover isn't the end of the world?
I'm not lying to you about this. You can check. The video's right there.
From about 34 seconds there's yellow…
https://i.imgur.com/2RCBYAt.pngyellow with dark shadows…
https://i.imgur.com/eL17YVP.pngA quick but imperfect eraser job…
https://i.imgur.com/uADn3yD.pngAnd finally blue over the top of that…
https://i.imgur.com/F8v0DHB.pngI have full confidence those little leftover bits of yellow won't be there when we have the actual final colours.
Digital colour used yellow for Enel as well. One of the big draws for it is that it follows Oda's colours that little bit more closely than the anime. But it's pretty well established that Oda makes at least some of his colour choices on the fly when he gets to covers and colour spreads (see above lol). Could have forgotten (or not cared) that he'd said purple behind the scenes in the past.
The colour manga could perhaps handle it gracefully by leaving it purple when it's the sword going out of control and changing it to Zoro's green when he embraces its haki-drawing capability at the end of the fight to signal the power up. That's what the scene on the cover's meant to be anyway.
Also, Oda coloring Yoru as yellow and red, even though he previously colored it as silver.
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Also, Oda coloring Yoru as yellow and red, even though he previously colored it as silver.
And even after that, the gems in the hilt turned green by Impel Down.
(The colour manga goes with the golden colour and red gems from your second pic)
My favourite Oda colour flip has to be Jinbe's Fishman Island outfit, which in course of two volumes goes from white…
to this incredible lime green…
Fine details on the sword of a character who appears once every handful of years at most is one thing, but the getup of a major, main crew character in his own arc?
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My favourite Oda colour flip has to be Jinbe's Fishman Island outfit, which in course of two volumes goes from white…
https://i.imgur.com/3Q5Nn3U.pngto this incredible lime green…
https://i.imgur.com/L8TTKUm.pngFine details on the sword of a character who appears once every handful of years at most is one thing, but the getup of a major, main crew character in his own arc?
Could be just a lighting thing. Then again, Oda also colored Zoro's Sabaody shirt as red and white, even though he previously colored it as green and white.
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Could be just a lighting thing. Then again, Oda also colored Zoro's Sabaody shirt as red and white, even though he previously colored it as green and white.
Or the amount of times Law's hair has been black instead of blue, or the infamous orange early Kuma. There's a ton more of these than people usually notice. This could almost be its own thread.
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Or the amount of times Law's hair has been black instead of blue, or the infamous orange early Kuma. There's a ton more of these than people usually notice. This could almost be its own thread.
This involves the anime, but still, with them getting weird with color schemes, like Gedatsu. I don't even think has to do with Toei having an agenda on race or anything like that but I've suspected that they tended to make color schemes darker compared to the manga's so that they don't blend in with lighter backgrounds more. I can't prove that though.
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This involves the anime, but still, with them getting weird with color schemes, like Gedatsu. I don't even think has to do with Toei having an agenda on race or anything like that but I've suspected that they tended to make color schemes darker compared to the manga's so that they don't blend in with lighter backgrounds more. I can't prove that though.
Yeah, the anime's changing up of the skin tones is always interesting to look at. To be honest, I haven't seen well over 90% of the anime's episodes so I wouldn't even know all the characters they'd done it with. I do remember they retonned Robin back to the base skintone after the timeskip.
I don't think it's bad of them at all. In a similar vein to his favourite female body type, Oda's single human skin colour can be a little disappointing. Like oh, fishmen can take their colouring and traits from basically anything that lives in the sea, but we're not touching so many of the different ways actual people can look?
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Yeah, the anime's changing up of the skin tones is always interesting to look at. To be honest, I haven't seen well over 90% of the anime's episodes so I wouldn't even know all the characters they'd done it with. I do remember they retonned Robin back to the base skintone after the timeskip.
I don't think it's bad of them at all. In a similar vein to his favourite female body type, Oda's single human skin colour can be a little disappointing. Like oh, fishmen can take their colouring and traits from basically anything that lives in the sea, but we're not touching so many of the different ways actual people can look?
No dark skinned people for 25 years so King could really shine.
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Well so Zoro is green btw… While digital made it purple.
Maybe it will an Enel case where Oda will stick with the yellow lightning while all other media uses blue
Wait, the official digitally colored version of chapters 1031-1033 and 1035 are out already?
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Wait, the official digitally colored version of chapters 1031-1033 and 1035 are out already?
Nah, the haki-as-smoke thing just made its first appearance in volume 95 when he initially picked up the sword.
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Nah, the haki-as-smoke thing just made its first appearance in volume 95 when he initially picked up the sword.
Oh, I see. Thanks.
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Yeah, the anime's changing up of the skin tones is always interesting to look at. To be honest, I haven't seen well over 90% of the anime's episodes so I wouldn't even know all the characters they'd done it with. I do remember they retonned Robin back to the base skintone after the timeskip.
I don't think it's bad of them at all. In a similar vein to his favourite female body type, Oda's single human skin colour can be a little disappointing. Like oh, fishmen can take their colouring and traits from basically anything that lives in the sea, but we're not touching so many of the different ways actual people can look?
I honestly think that Oda just focuses more on what he feels is cool or interesting more than anything else, and while skin tones include ones like orange or gray, really though, the fact that many people have so many different interpretations of race prob goes to show how amusing his character design is in general.
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I honestly think that Oda just focuses more on what he feels is cool or interesting more than anything else, and while skin tones include ones like orange or gray, really though, the fact that many people have so many different interpretations of race prob goes to show how amusing his character design is in general.
My take would be just that he gets his diversity in through culture and clothing instead of ethnicity the way we're likely to quantify it, and it doesn't feel off quite the same way in (infamously homogeneous) Japan.
I'd kinda forgotten Gaimon was any darker than the rest of the cast in the manga (at least the colour manga, I don't recall any example of Oda drawing him in colour himself). Although, I don't see Dragon or Doc Q fitting in your lineup - they both seem to have the "default" skintone to me.
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One Piece Volume 102 cover, tittled "The Pivotal Clash".
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Thanks Redon!
Something about the colouring feels different to most of Oda's other covers, but it's still looking great. The fire on Sanji's leg is something else!
The final King skin tone is disappointingly pale relative to the big deal made of it. He barely looks different from the world's default skin colour.
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Because all we have is a rough version from Oda's digital colour tests, in which things not being 100% properly erased and having a smudge or two leftover isn't the end of the world?
I'm not lying to you about this. You can check. The video's right there.
From about 34 seconds there's yellow…
[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/2RCBYAt.png[/qimg]yellow with dark shadows…
[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/eL17YVP.png[/qimg]A quick but imperfect eraser job…
[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/uADn3yD.png[/qimg]And finally blue over the top of that…
[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/F8v0DHB.png[/qimg]I have full confidence those little leftover bits of yellow won't be there when we have the actual final colours.
Digital colour used yellow for Enel as well. One of the big draws for it is that it follows Oda's colours that little bit more closely than the anime. But it's pretty well established that Oda makes at least some of his colour choices on the fly when he gets to covers and colour spreads (see above lol). Could have forgotten (or not cared) that he'd said purple behind the scenes in the past.
The colour manga could perhaps handle it gracefully by leaving it purple when it's the sword going out of control and changing it to Zoro's green when he embraces its haki-drawing capability at the end of the fight to signal the power up. That's what the scene on the cover's meant to be anyway.
Well, as I thought but didn't quite say, it's never quite good to play Charles Xavier when it comes to things like this.
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Wow, Oda really doesn't know how to color someone who supposedly has dark skin.
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Well, as I thought but didn't quite say, it's never quite good to play Charles Xavier when it comes to things like this.
I'm a big enough man to eat my words when it comes to that. Guess I got too caught up in frame-by-framing the process vid and overthought what I was seeing. The final version looks good!
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All the covers together!
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I'm really not a fan of Oda's covers, but he has surpassed himself this time ! This will probably be in the bottom 10 of the covers
