Unlimited series keep to be my favorite One Piece game ever in each of their version, World Seeker included. A new WS with a few more charas would be awesome.
Also I do agree on Gigant Battle 2 being the best fighting game so far. Grand Battle X never made to best it.
World Seeker has the best foundation and potential for a great game in a sequel.
Make the camera more dynamic, add more depth and speed to the combat, bring back fishing, bring back creature catching, add more unique areas…..pretty much just go full action RPG.
If all the Straw Hats are playable, give each one of them fun and diverse traversal mechanics. Create a combination of the crew switching from Unlimited Adventure and Cruise with the party system of Unlimited World Red.
One Piece: Like A Pirate.
And have Takaya Kuroda voice Luffy like he did with Kenshiro. XD
I'm glad the New World actually feels really difficult. This game is way better than the first one.
Hi everyone. I bought the game last week and already finished the main story. I played on Switch so the map is too small to navigate but overall the game is quite enjoyable. Hope the game sold well so we'll get PW5 with updated Onigashima campaign!
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but One Piece Pirate Warriors 4: Deluxe Edition is available for a limited time on the ps store for 35€, so the inevitable question arises: is it worth it? Deluxe edition, according to the description, means the 9 dlc characters are in. Is that a good deal, or better wait for PW5?
Depends on how much you want to play Pirate Warriors tbh.
I'm personally not sure if we'll get 5. At least not anytime soon.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but One Piece Pirate Warriors 4: Deluxe Edition is available for a limited time on the ps store for 35€, so the inevitable question arises: is it worth it? Deluxe edition, according to the description, means the 9 dlc characters are in. Is that a good deal, or better wait for PW5?
I'd say it's a good deal. I got it last year for PC at a similar deal.
Overall, PW3 feels like the most complete experience, some thing click better.
PW4 tries out a new system that can be fun, but since it drops a lot of the previous game, character, storywise, and even menu-wise (the islands in PW3 were cool), it stills end up feeling like the first entry in a new series rather than direct evolution of the PW3 system.
But adding the DLC characters we get a lot of new comers, and they're fun.
And since we still have no news of a PW5 on the horizon, it's a good game to scratch some musou itches.
Personally I wouldn't mind a PW5 being just Wano, there are plenty of characters (most of them legends when we're counting the flashbacks and hit hurts nobody if you add a few other fan favorites), stages, armies, and progression to build a single game
Interesting, thanks a lot for the input!
I basically have to choose between this and 13 Sentinels, which has some pretty insane reviews, so yeah…might choose that one in the end? But I really enjoyed PW3 and genuinely wanted more of that, so yeah, hard decision here.
Even though, truth is...I shouldn't buy anything right now and focus on my studies.
Go with 13 Sentinels instead. The one piece "press attack button" game is fun and all, but 13 Sentinels is an experience.
Also PW3 had Moria and was the better game overall, and is only 9$ right now. Not as many new characters obviously, given that its 6 years old, but oh well.
Old school Koei I would say "just wait for part 5" because they did annual releases, but since they started doing more licensed titles their releases are further apart now. It's been 8 years since the last Gundam game and seems unlikely to ever be another.
They cut WAY too much content out of this game. It's like only 4 or 5 arcs, and Wano wasn't even at the Raid when this game was developed.
I personally found PW3 to be pretty dull and boring. 4 turned that around and I liked it a lot more, it's just a shame I played it without bothering to wait for any dlc characters, and I'm not interested enough to go back to it. But to each their own I guess.
Interesting, thanks a lot for the input!
I basically have to choose between this and 13 Sentinels, which has some pretty insane reviews, so yeah…might choose that one in the end? But I really enjoyed PW3 and genuinely wanted more of that, so yeah, hard decision here.
Even though, truth is...I shouldn't buy anything right now and focus on my studies.
I played both, and I enjoyed 13 sentinels more, crazy and exciting story, good characters, decent gameplay.
I actually even liked pw3 more than pw4, Im not sure why but I think the stages and missions were more fun to play through in pw3's dream and nightmare log.
Thanks guys for all the replies.
It does seem like 13 Sentinels is quite the experience (and it would also be my first Vanillaware experience…), and it's even cheaper, it costs like 20€ or something like that.
Might very well go with that one. Only thing bugging me is, as Robby said, back in the day there would be no doubt that a bigger and better PW5 would be a thing in a couple of years, but now, not so much...
Thanks guys for all the replies.
It does seem like 13 Sentinels is quite the experience (and it would also be my first Vanillaware experience…), and it's even cheaper, it costs like 20€ or something like that.
Might very well go with that one. Only thing bugging me is, as Robby said, back in the day there would be no doubt that a bigger and better PW5 would be a thing in a couple of years, but now, not so much...
Just like with PW€ they need to take a few years break after every instalment to let the series progress a bit for new arcs and characters to be included, nothing to be worried about, as long as the games are selling we will get more.
I really enjoyed PW4 and grabbed PW3 for a low cost to get to eventually - both on PS4. It's not a deep game by any means though, it's fun and all but it really is just OP fanservice. I bought the character pass ages ago bc I knew I'd want all the DLC characters and didn't want to buy the individual packs. For a low price, I'd go for it - but if it's between PW4 and a more meaty "real" game (and 13 Sentinels sounds fantastic), I'd say skip PW4 for now. It's not going to get more expensive over time. It's not a complex game or one that I can see becoming a hard to find gem or anything.
I wish Omega Force would make a One Piece game like Persona 5 Strikers. A Straw Hats only action RPG that still retains the one-man-army musou combat.
I am planning to get One Piece Pirate Hunters 4 but I have heard that the game for switch is not up to the mark. Anyone who plays it on Switch? I would be grateful if you could share your experience.
@All:
I wish Omega Force would make a One Piece game like Persona 5 Strikers. A Straw Hats only action RPG that still retains the one-man-army musou combat.
Initially I would be against it, but thinking more about it could turn out really well.
Most of the strawhats needs complete new movesets as well to make them more fun to play as (looking at you chopper specifically), having lesser characters would also mean that they could work into making them more unique, which was one of my qualms with PW4, a lot of characters feels very similar imo.
Initially I would be against it, but thinking more about it could turn out really well.
Most of the strawhats needs complete new movesets as well to make them more fun to play as (looking at you chopper specifically), having lesser characters would also mean that they could work into making them more unique, which was one of my qualms with PW4, a lot of characters feels very similar imo.
While I agree that many Strawhats are in need of overhauled movesets, I doubt that it would make me like these kinds of games more. I know that there is players who like this kind of game and I always think it's good that there's that many different kind of games, respectively that there's an audience for it. But to me the entire gameplay loop just feels like I'm actually doing nothing and by that I really mean nothing when I'm fighting my way through all those hordes of enemies.
To put this into perspective, once you clear the game you have the option to check all unlocked characters and their movesets in among your unlocks. I haven't done this for PW4 but I've did it for PW1 - PW3. Basically you have your selected character in an empy room any can unleash all your attacks there. Kinda like a training mode in fighting games. The thing is though that this is exactly how playing the actual game feels to me. If I'm surrounded my 100 identical opponents that just stand there, then punshing them just feels same as when I'm unleashing attacks into thin air in the "training mode". It's just too many characters for them to feel like anything more than air. Also being attacked by them doesn't change that because most mostly the entire blob of people that launches the same generic attack in unison making it as you've being attacked by just one big blob with a very generic attack.
It's not that I hate fighting many enemies but rather that the number just don't mean anything in this kind of game. To explain what I mean I'd like to take a look at another OP game, Unlimited World: Red. In terms of character movement in feels a bit more clunky and stiff in comparison to PW which is much more fluid and dynamic. But still the combat was a bit more engaging because you couldn't just hammer the attack buttons and think about things like when to strike, which character to strike and when to back off to not be overwhelmed and all that with just a handful of opponents. So if I remember correctly, you never encounter a situation in story mode where actually fight more than 8 characters at the same time. So with that in mind there's also another mode of which I've forgotten the name. It has several stages but I remember that the final stage is a gauntlet where you're fighting waves with more opponents than you would usually encounter in story mode. It takes place on Ace's execution plattform at Marineford and the last wave of opponents is I believe 10 Pacifistas. That one was actually really fun to play. Not just the 10 Pacifistas but the entire thing because you couldn't just mash the buttons indefinitely and expect that no matter which direction your character faces, they'll always take down at least 50 characters. It might be simplistic but it still added a layer of strategy which PW just doesn't have which is why PW feels like punching the air.
By that as it may, I would still say that of all the PW games I like PW4 because there's two things it does better than the previous installments. The first is that the environments look much, MUCH better. One of the things I've hated about the previous games is the overall aesthetic KOEI Tecmo gave the games when creating their own version of the classic locations. I know that I cannot expect a 100% faithful representation of the original environments and that liberties could and should be taken. But with PW1-PW3 it just felt that there was too much of a KOEI flavour to the locations. Whereas in in PW4 I honestly felt like "OMG! That's Sabaody just like in the manga" while knowing fully well, that it is not just like in the manga. But it made me feel like that. Same with other locations like Arabasta or for the first time Wholecake Island which I felt they just nailed.
The other thing this game has going for it is that IMO it's the best Kaiju game I've played in a long time. Honestly, controlling a large character like Kaido or Big Mom and moving through entire buildings crushing everything just feels super fun. Crushing hundreds of enemies just feels weight and impactless as described in previous paragraphs but destroying buildings JUST.IS.FUN! I wouldn't if PW5 doubles down on that aspect whenever that comes out.
Musou games were actually better on old consoles when they had LESS enemies. They were individually stronger and you had to work to get them and could be killed by ranged attacks… and getting to a 100 kill combo was an achievement and getting to 1000 took a specialized level and grinding.
But once the consoles got stronger they made them dumber, weaker and more plentiful. When they start putting 80 enemies into a room and they collapse in one hit it loses all impact and meaning and achievement and just doesn't feel as good. WHen you get your first 100 hkill cobo in the opening 3 minutes and 1000 kills on every level it's just... not as satisfying.
The point of the games is never really the challenge until the highest difficulties, its about finding a character you like and getting into a groove and just vibing with that character. The OP games are hampered some by needing to include canon moves so the main character movesets aren't very organic or good feeling, they're just "remember this attack?" so they're just... eh.
On top of that Koei has really really stagnated their musou games and they've gotten worse over time for the most part. Bland uninspired map designs and endless string of samey characters with cut and paste movesets. Compared the the Basara games whee every character feels completely unique and every stage has its own gimmick to be fresh... it's just a real shame.
Musou games were actually better on old consoles when they had LESS enemies. They were individually stronger and you had to work to get them and could be killed by ranged attacks… and getting to a 100 kill combo was an achievement and getting to 1000 took a specialized level and grinding.
But once the consoles got stronger they made them dumber, weaker and more plentiful. When they start putting 80 enemies into a room and they collapse in one hit it loses all impact and meaning and achievement and just doesn't feel as good. WHen you get your first 100 hkill cobo in the opening 3 minutes and 1000 kills on every level it's just... not as satisfying.
The point of the games is never really the challenge until the highest difficulties, its about finding a character you like and getting into a groove and just vibing with that character. The OP games are hampered some by needing to include canon moves so the main character movesets aren't very organic or good feeling, they're just "remember this attack?" so they're just... eh.
On top of that Koei has really really stagnated their musou games and they've gotten worse over time for the most part. Bland uninspired map designs and endless string of samey characters with cut and paste movesets. Compared the the Basara games whee every character feels completely unique and every stage has its own gimmick to be fresh... it's just a real shame.
Yes, this is completely it, I've wondering why I didn't enjoy them like I used to do on PS2, and now I remember how hard it was to even get to 1000 KOs.
Musou games were actually better on old consoles when they had LESS enemies. They were individually stronger and you had to work to get them and could be killed by ranged attacks… and getting to a 100 kill combo was an achievement and getting to 1000 took a specialized level and grinding.
That sounds like a lot more fun that what we're stuck with nowadays.
But once the consoles got stronger they made them dumber, weaker and more plentiful. When they start putting 80 enemies into a room and they collapse in one hit it loses all impact and meaning and achievement and just doesn't feel as good. WHen you get your first 100 hkill cobo in the opening 3 minutes and 1000 kills on every level it's just… not as satisfying.
I think that with how powerful consoles respectively modern gaming PCs have become fighting games are just better suited for anime games (at least to those that actually have a battle component) are better than Musou games. Yes, One Piece definitely is the story where Luffy battles hundreds and thousands of unnamed marines, pirates etc. but rather than taking on that I feel anime games should embrace the huge cast and I don't know any series that has a bigger cast of characters than OP. Even if you would have a selection of 100 characters you would evidentally be fighting the same mooks all the time with the occational boss battle. Wheras in a fighting game you could create all kinds of dream match ups. With how strong the consoles are nowadays this should be doable since anime fighting games like Naruto SUNS or Bleach Blade Battlers, or heck even this musou series the controls are always the same. Only that the different characters perform different moves. This is different from real fighting games like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken etc. where every character does actually have a different move set in terms of button inputs too.
The point of the games is never really the challenge until the highest difficulties, its about finding a character you like and getting into a groove and just vibing with that character. The OP games are hampered some by needing to include canon moves so the main character movesets aren't very organic or good feeling, they're just "remember this attack?" so they're just… eh.
I get what you're saying but I would say that even then a game needs a basic set of challenge just enough to make the player feel they have actually accomplished something. Let's say for instance you would be playing Tetris and it would only have that one square block and nothing else. Of course technically you could still mess things up and get a game over screen but you would actually have to actively work towards losing the game rather than it happening because you're not up to the challenge. Just vibing with a character is not more than a techdemo. If you however get into a grove with them and take out enemies and you feel like you've actually did something, then we're having a game.
On top of that Koei has really really stagnated their musou games and they've gotten worse over time for the most part. Bland uninspired map designs and endless string of samey characters with cut and paste movesets. Compared the the Basara games whee every character feels completely unique and every stage has its own gimmick to be fresh… it's just a real shame.
That's the problem when you pretty much just make a copy paste game with no significant distinction other than increasing the roster. If that's been the MO for so many years then once they actually get to the part that they have to innovate they are actually clueless what to do. That's why Dynasty Warriors 9 was such a bad game. They made it open world just because that has been a trend in gaming at some point. Only they didn't get the memo that gaming has come to the point where gamers don't want every game to be open world, especially if there's no meaning to it in the first place (which there is not in a Musou game). I wouldn't be surprised if they'd try to catch the next trend that gamers are actually already starting to feel fatigued: battle royal. I kid you not that KOEI strikes me as that clueless about anything that isn't Musou, that they could actually consider to make DN10 battle royal AND a Musou just because they think it's hot right now and that it'll work.
The first Musou I tried was the PC version of Dinasty Warriors 4, and that was only after PW1 was announced, that's how I learned about the games.
(altough Devil King, the western version of the first Sengoku Basara, had caught my eye back in the day I never managed to try it back then)
So I'm not an old-school player and I share many of the same complaints on the current musou, but the number of enemies is not the problem.
Too little enemies and the game is crap, I tried the Berserk one and the Dragon Quest ones and they were boring as hell despite having fewer and somewhat thougher enemies. That only made your limited moveset feel small and ineficient.
DW4, PW3, and I forgot which Samurai Warriors I also played a bit, are great because of the overall experience despite each one having different number of enemies.
It's the maps and the objectives, and very noticibly on the PW case, the bosses and unique enemies. Because if you wanna play a game with very tight controls and fights you're looking in the wrong place, they're not in the musou bin. You want a Devil May Cry, go play that. You want a OP game with more of an adventure side, go play Unlimited World. Those games exist and are not actually competing with the musou genre, which on it's best examples is about controling a battlefield. You're supposed to lead the charge, not be the one eliminating every single enemy on screen. Getting a high score in PW3 was not about gaining control of every area, was about doing the objectives in a way where you actually could conquer every area while still doing every single main and side objective, and for that you had to pick your right character and level them up.
It's a button masher, but on it's best days is also a bit of a puzzle game and requires some skill and knowledge of the system. And it seems to me that TecmoKoei stumbles upon some great and very fun games from time to time without actually realizing what makes them fun in the first place.
PW4 tried a couple of different things and one of the things I liked was the burst movement, because that shows the player they should just go through half of the thousands of random mooks without actually stoping or caring. Just plow on through and get to your objective, the main bad guys, the unique bosses and semi-bosses. Yet the objectives are kinda crap and those random mooks position themselves in a way that blocks your camera and stops you from reaching or hitting your actual target. And when your objective is to conquer an area not enough of them show up for you to do that quickly. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
The first Musou I tried was the PC version of Dinasty Warriors 4, and that was only after PW1 was announced, that's how I learned about the games.
(altough Devil King, the western version of the first Sengoku Basara, had caught my eye back in the day I never managed to try it back then)So I'm not an old-school player and I share many of the same complaints on the current musou, but the number of enemies is not the problem.
Too little enemies and the game is crap, I tried the Berserk one and the Dragon Quest ones and they were boring as hell despite having fewer and somewhat thougher enemies. That only made your limited moveset feel small and ineficient.DW4, PW3, and I forgot which Samurai Warriors I also played a bit, are great because of the overall experience despite each one having different number of enemies.
It's the maps and the objectives, and very noticibly on the PW case, the bosses and unique enemies. Because if you wanna play a game with very tight controls and fights you're looking in the wrong place, they're not in the musou bin. You want a Devil May Cry, go play that. You want a OP game with more of an adventure side, go play Unlimited World. Those games exist and are not actually competing with the musou genre, which on it's best examples is about controling a battlefield. You're supposed to lead the charge, not be the one eliminating every single enemy on screen. Getting a high score in PW3 was not about gaining control of every area, was about doing the objectives in a way where you actually could conquer every area while still doing every single main and side objective, and for that you had to pick your right character and level them up.It's a button masher, but on it's best days is also a bit of a puzzle game and requires some skill and knowledge of the system. And it seems to me that TecmoKoei stumbles upon some great and very fun games from time to time without actually realizing what makes them fun in the first place.
PW4 tried a couple of different things and one of the things I liked was the burst movement, because that shows the player they should just go through half of the thousands of random mooks without actually stoping or caring. Just plow on through and get to your objective, the main bad guys, the unique bosses and semi-bosses. Yet the objectives are kinda crap and those random mooks position themselves in a way that blocks your camera and stops you from reaching or hitting your actual target. And when your objective is to conquer an area not enough of them show up for you to do that quickly. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I agree that a Musou games quality should be not judged by looking at other genres. That would be like saying this sport game sucks while you're clearly a fighting game only player. A game should always be judged against other games of it's genre or if it doesn't have any by other installments of that very series. Let me use a different kind of game to explain what I mean: New Super Mario Bros. 2. That game plays pretty much like the classic Mario 2 platformer. The new gimmick that this game has going is that you can pretty much turn anything into gold coins even the air in front of you. On the one hand it is amazing that you can get more coins then ever before but on the other hand, if all you have to do to collect coins is walking forward and you've got it covered the game loses one of it's main drives. You start to feel that nothing what you do actually means much because you don't need to do a well timed tricky jump or anything but just jump forward.
And Pirate Warriors kinda creates the same feeling of doing nothing. Yes, one might argue that it's an accomplishment to get a 2,500 combo but to me it feels that I just have to walk forward and get this, that's how simplystic it is. I haven't played any Musou games other than Pirate Warriors but I know Robby and Solid long enough to trust their words when they say that what I'm feeling is because even amongst Musou games the modern games are lacking a bit. When I feel that using characters in demo mode is not different from using them in the actual mode because empty space get's replaced by enemies to a degree where actually feel that the enemies are the environment and just as much of an obstacle as air, then this has nothing to do with comparing it with other genres, then I do feel that it is a badly designed Musou games and that even within this genre it could do better.
I get what you mean. Let me try to explain my point of view better.
On the first PW you racked up hundreds of enemies. There was even an achievement about getting 1000 KOs on a stage (that was imposible to get without buying the DLC, trust me I tried), so yeah, getting a 1000 KOs on that game was a big thing. Yet, the game sucked. It was fun enough at the time, since it was the only OP musou experience, but it was very bland. The stages were divided into squares, the objectives were boring and predictable, and the system overall had plenty of corners to round.
Now let's look at PW3, it's normal to get at least a 1000 KOs on any stage and in fact it's kinda the bare minimum to get a decent score. So the Get a 1000 KOs achievement is an easy one instead of an impossible one, and imo they should've had an harder achieve like Get 2500 KOs or something, the same way you have an achieve about getting 300 KOs with one Kizuna Rush.
The stages have tons of variations, despite not every stage being a winner. On story mode you have several fixed side missions and half of them can't be completed in one go, you'll probably need to do the level with different characters or take different routes and by doing so having a different experience every time. On some stages you can do everything in one go, but you'll need to have leveled up your character and it's a challenge.
On the Free Mode, you have fixed main objectives, on some stages you actually have to choose which side you're fighting on before you start (meaning then you can repeat the stage, choose the opposite side and have a different experience), and then half a douzen of random side missions which will pop up in the middle of the level and give you a different experience every single time.
Yes it's still limited after you pick up some patterns but when you choose a level play to you're getting to choose which side you're on, the stage map is gonna be random, the side missions will be random, and the characters on those side missions will also be random. You could spend all day replaying the same level and get different things every single time.
In PW4? Well, if you get a random rowdy Luffy as an enemy it's going to actually be Brulle in a disguise. And yes, she could be disguised as any character in the game, since she doesn't even have a character model, just a portrait and a few voiced lines. But no, it's always the same side-mission taken from the story mode over and over again. If a random Luffy shows up on the stage you know it's Brulle and that is boring as hell.
PW4 has a dash button meant to help just advance in the stage and ignore the mooks, so you can focus on the fun part, getting your objectives and missions, but what's the point if those objectives and missions are always the same boring ones?
I get what you mean. Let me try to explain my point of view better.
On the first PW you racked up hundreds of enemies. There was even an achievement about getting 1000 KOs on a stage (that was imposible to get without buying the DLC, trust me I tried), so yeah, getting a 1000 KOs on that game was a big thing. Yet, the game sucked. It was fun enough at the time, since it was the only OP musou experience, but it was very bland. The stages were divided into squares, the objectives were boring and predictable, and the system overall had plenty of corners to round.
Are you talking about a different version from the Japanese version? Because I've platinumed the Japanese version and I most definitely have not bought any DLC because even though I live in Japan now I still to this day don't have a Japanese account.^^'
Now let's look at PW3, it's normal to get at least a 1000 KOs on any stage and in fact it's kinda the bare minimum to get a decent score. So the Get a 1000 KOs achievement is an easy one instead of an impossible one, and imo they should've had an harder achieve like Get 2500 KOs or something, the same way you have an achieve about getting 300 KOs with one Kizuna Rush.
The stages have tons of variations, despite not every stage being a winner. On story mode you have several fixed side missions and half of them can't be completed in one go, you'll probably need to do the level with different characters or take different routes and by doing so having a different experience every time. On some stages you can do everything in one go, but you'll need to have leveled up your character and it's a challenge.
On the Free Mode, you have fixed main objectives, on some stages you actually have to choose which side you're fighting on before you start (meaning then you can repeat the stage, choose the opposite side and have a different experience), and then half a douzen of random side missions which will pop up in the middle of the level and give you a different experience every single time.
Yes it's still limited after you pick up some patterns but when you choose a level play to you're getting to choose which side you're on, the stage map is gonna be random, the side missions will be random, and the characters on those side missions will also be random. You could spend all day replaying the same level and get different things every single time.
I get what you're trying to say but to me personally everything feld samey because no matter the objectives, I still had to plow through hundreds and thousands of enemies just as I would plow through snow. I'm not saying that the objectives are a problem but rather that the blob of enemies is so omnipresent that to me it just takes away from the fun.
In PW4? Well, if you get a random rowdy Luffy as an enemy it's going to actually be Brulle in a disguise. And yes, she could be disguised as any character in the game, since she doesn't even have a character model, just a portrait and a few voiced lines. But no, it's always the same side-mission taken from the story mode over and over again. If a random Luffy shows up on the stage you know it's Brulle and that is boring as hell.
PW4 has a dash button meant to help just advance in the stage and ignore the mooks, so you can focus on the fun part, getting your objectives and missions, but what's the point if those objectives and missions are always the same boring ones?
As I said, there's only two reasons why I like PW4 the most. I really think that in the Pirate Warriors series, these are so far the best environments in terms of making you feel like you're actually at the locations you know from the manga/anime. In PW1 to PW3 it felt like some terrible fan art always done by the same terrible artist.
The other reason is because I just feel smashing through buildings with the huge characters is fun. Or to put it in different terms, PW4 is the best Godzilla game I've ever played. That in itself should tell you that I agree on your assessment of the main gameplay loop. ^^
I had the european version, tried for hours upon hours, no stage would spawn 1000 enemies. Maybe if I had spent two hours on a stage waiting for the drip feed of enemies to get the achieve, but that's not fun nor a good achievement if you have to wait for the game to catch up with you.
And despite agreeing with how poor looking the stages in PW1 looked, they were great in PW3.
They had tons of details and felt alive. It wasn't a 1-to-1 representation of what we saw on the show but that would make for crappy stages. They were big, interconnected and each corner had something unique.
PW4 stages are fun because of that Godzilla aspect but are terribly designed. The areas are very disconnected and it feels you only have one path from A to B half of the times. They give you a jump button but why, if most of the time you can't jump over barriers or onto the platform in front of you.
And for real, the armies in Musou games are not meant to be defeated one by one, they're just the dressing on top of things. Even without the rush move from PW4, most of the time you can just run around them. Outside of missions where you're actually told to conquer a territory on defeat X-number of enemies they are just there to fill up your musou bar for the bosses, the actually unique and challenging enemies. And PW even has a skill that simply fills up your musou bar overtime so you can skip that if you want.
You need to defeat some of them to get those high scores and such but during the overall playthrough you can just go straight for the main goals and beat the levels.
Btw, after that last paragraph I got the feeling that I'm telling you you're playing the game wrong :p and that really isn't my intention.
Different strokes to different folks, as they say. My ideal musou game would be different than your ideal musou game.
Maybe Warriors games should stick to the Switch lol.
In the newest Hyrule Warriors its actually quite difficult to reach 1000 enemies KO. I usually average around 400 - 450.
Yeah, Yamato and you-know-who are definitely headlining this.
King and Queen if lucky.
@King-Cannon Who is you-know-who? Gear 5 Luffy?
Cool news, I guess.
I've been meaning to play some Pirate Warriors again recently, and I was thinking more of PW3 but if there's gonna be new characters in PW4 I'll check em out.
Wow its the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Pass DLC all over again! Awesome!
I'm sure this DLC will be very Onigashima focused, with Yamato, King/Queen, Apoo?.... But would also still love some returning characters, specifically Eneru
@Robby said in One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 (Switch, PS4, XBox One, PC; 2020):
I imagine if Wano ahd ended sooner they might actually have done a sequel but there's just nothing to work with.
Yamato is super duper blindingly obvious as an add on, and maybe some of Kaidou's underlings.
Spoilers for aniem only watchers I guess
But yeah, Yamato is obvious but I don't know about the other two (assuming the pack is the same size as the others) and they're not counting "that thing" as its own character. Maybe some combination of Ulti, King or Queen or some of the other scabbards. I suspect it will be Wano focused.
Honestly, they should make a Xtreme Legends style thing for this game. It needs a bit more then just a DLC character or two.
Wishful thinking but maybe they can add in some new costumes and special moves for characters too. Would love to have the Onigashima Outfits and finishing attacks for the Strawhats at least
@black-leg-jex Now it makes sense why this year they were airing commercials Pirate Warriors 4, a game from three years ago.
There probably won't be any news missions, so I'm not excited to revisit the game. My guess is Yamato, King and Queen as new characters. Revamp Luffy should be in as well...
Yamato, King, Queen, Aramaki, and Roger are my guess. Maybe Ulti.
Having Roger be playable for the first time in a One Piece console game would be rad.
Read some rumors on tt about a miner on discord saying that revamp Luffy, revamp Law and Kaido (Speed type) were the ones being announced.
According to this datamine list:
We're getting Yamato (all forms), Uta, Roger(!), Rayleigh(!!), Garp (young version), Koby (good timing) and Luffy/Law with their Onigashima outfits. Plus Kaidou with a Hybrid form and Nika Luffy, unsurprisingly.
Looks like the focusis Film Red and the Oden flashback.
So, it looks like 3 packs.
Onigashima Pack: Gear 5th Luffy, Hybrid Kaido, Yamato
Film Red Pack: Uta, Koby (it seems?), and not sure who the 3rd will be.
Legends Pack: Roger, (Young) Rayleigh, (Young) Garp
And an Onigashima costume for Law and a Red costume for Shanks.
How is Uta even gonna fight? I know she wears an armor for her second music video and she can summon Tot Musica, but she's not a combatant type.
Oh wait, I think she can hypnotize the enemies to attack each other.
@All-Fiction I would imagine how she fought in her world with the spear and such, just now in the actual world.
Uta will likely have soundwave based techniques and her knight armor from Uta World.
That is a good idea. Like, you can select Luffy and choose "Original", "New World" and "Final Saga". Or like Kaido, go Standard or Hybrid Form.
Maybe you can do the same thing with Germa, since Huey, Duey and Lewie had a lot of the same moves.
