Chapter 983 - Thunder
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Failhawk is a pretty good one
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Smoothie was also utilized. Just not like how you wanted her to be.
Yes. How unreasonable of me to expect her to be handled like Cracker or Katakuri.
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Then you really don't know how Oda writes.
I remember people complaining all over the Marineford arc how Marco was useless, or callin Mihawk Fail Hawk…
Characters shine when it's their time to shine. Until them, they are kept in the background.Smoothie was hyped through her bounty. But we will only see her acting when the time comes.
I tried to search for Fail Hawk and only got Romance Dawn delineating the time others had used the term
I don't know exactly how Buggy's fruit would react to Haki. The best indication is with Mihawk and at that point Oda had finalized Haki but it's still anyone's guess if he was using anything else beyond awareness to track Luffy through the masses. I remember a nice following of people calling him Fail Hawk because he couldn't seem to defeat anyone note worthy including Buggy. We all assumed(and with good reason) that Mihawk was going to cut Buggy.
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Yes. How unreasonable of me to expect her to be handled like Cracker or Katakuri.
You said you're issue isn't about power scaling, but your gripe is that she didn't get to go all out in a full fight.
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Yes. How unreasonable of me to expect her to be handled like Cracker or Katakuri.
Because WCI was about Cracker and Katakuri, not Smoothie.
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You said you're issue isn't about power scaling, but your gripe is that she didn't get to go all out in a full fight.
Right because that's all Katakuri did. I would take her being handled like Cracker but I'd very much prefer something closer to Katakuri.
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I tried to search for Fail Hawk and only got Romance Dawn delineating the time others had used the term
Well, I myself don't remember what terms were used back then, but I do remember people complaining about one character or another because they expected them to shine more.
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Because WCI was about Cracker and Katakuri, not Smoothie.
There's a reason why Cracker and Katakuri aren't in the boat now.Right and who has taking the lead now? That's my issue.
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How come Katakuri was there doing nothing? He just stood and watched as Brook and Chopper decimated the soldiers! It was Perospero that finally used his powers to stop them! Katakuri is useless, Peros should be the Sweet Commander instead! Reeeeee!
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I know you are being sarcastic but they did not do anything because they were baiting the rest of the Straw Hats to show up and support Brook and Chopper.
Its pretty simple. From a story perspective, so far, Smoothie has been useless. Its ok to accept that.
Just like its ok to accept that Dragon was a shitty Dad. Or Garp was extremely irresponsible to let bandits raise his only Grandchild.
Its ok. So far in the story Smoothie is useless. Hopefully she will have time to shine and step up.
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All of those people you named are doing things in arcs where they are meant to go down in some sense.
I understand.
I was just trying to point out, that usually, those characters tend to have a moment to show why they are considered as one of the top guys in the New World but in comparison Smoothie has not been given that chance.
Hope she gets to make an impact in the story soon though.
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Its perfectly natural for the people to be disappointed by the way Smoothie was handled so far in the story. IF and WHEN she will be handled better,we will say "Oh so Smoothie did this and that". But so far is obvious to be disappointed by seeing a Commander doing almost nothing. I am not sure yet if she will do much honestly also because she is female. And we know how editors thinks: "Boys wants to see boys fight!" they say,and if Oda doesnt care much about Smoothie,he could say "whatever" and listen to them (not because he is sexist,but just because he doesnt care enough about the character to fight against what they say).
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I wouldn't innocent the role of Oda that much
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The argument 'maybe she will be useful in the future' is not really a good argument. Oda has introduced her as one of the 3 major player of Big Mum crew and he shall have shown why during Big Mum arc. Why should we wait until a moment which may never happen to be satisfied ? It should not have been very difficult for Oda to give her a little focus like he did for many other of big mum kids.
And so far Perospero is still more interesting than her.That's completely arbitrary.
Smoothie is the third strongest, but this isn't supposed to make her a more important character in the story than others. Her existence is indispensable for the sake of the worldbuilding, since the Yonkou need some strong fighters, but the writer can choose to focus on other characters who fit the story better… and that's not a writing mistake.
Strong villain subordinates shine in arcs with lots of fights, not in weird arcs where the villains are not defeated. So that's why it makes sense to wait.
Smoothie being so strong was problematic for the events that took place in WCI. Oda couldn't really put her clashing around with the likes of Nami, Brook and Chopper because she was so much stronger... and because they were all occupied with secondary missions. Any time she got too close Oda would need to find an asspull to take her out of the picture, unless the Strawats died, of course. So Oda was smart enough to keep her out of the action.
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That's completely arbitrary.
Smoothie is the third strongest, but this isn't supposed to make her a more important character in the story than others. Her existence is indispensable for the sake of the worldbuilding, since the Yonkou need some strong fighters, but the writer can choose to focus on other characters who fit the story better… and that's not a writing mistake.
Strong villain subordinates shine in arcs with lots of fights, not in weird arcs where the villains are not defeated. So that's why it makes sense to wait.
Smoothie being so strong was problematic for the events that took place in WCI. Oda couldn't really put her clashing around with the likes of Nami, Brook and Chopper because she was so much stronger... and because they were all occupied with secondary missions. Any time she got too close Oda would need to find an asspull to take her out of the picture, unless the Strawats died, of course. So Oda was smart enough to keep her out of the action.
The only way Smoothie could have been shown as the powerhouse she is back then is if there was another strong person going with the Straw Hats to WCI solely to be defeated by her. Otherwise, she would appear incompetent either way. Would Oda add another "Pedro" just for that?
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She just shouldn't have been given that bounty and title if she wasn't going to be handled that way. If she and Perospero switched them, their would be no problem.
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Cracker's role was to establish the power of Yonko commanders. But he got still defeated pretty quickly after his introduction and was not heard from again. Katakuri's role was to fight Luffy so of course he had to be hyped like crazy beforehand. I guarantee you there will never be another Yonko commander that gets so much focus as him, because Luffy's moved to bigger leagues now, and there's no need to hype up secondary villains.
And that's what Smoothie is probably going to end up being. A secondary villain whose main role in the story is getting defeated in a fight. She only needs to show off enough for it to be impressive when someone beats her, and a lot of that is already guaranteed by her title and bounty.
Perospero is probably gonna have a more major role to play so that's why he gets more focus. It really is as simple as that.
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A secondary villain whose main role in the story is getting defeated in a fight. She only needs to show off enough for it to be impressive when someone beats her, and a lot of that is already guaranteed by her title and bounty.
This is very likely, but I would also consider that Smoothie is in a unique position due to her being a Big Mom Pirate. She's not a secondary villain, she's a tertiary villain - with the added option to turn neutral (or even friendly) at any point.
If Oda wanted to he could even let her win her fight. Her "defeat" would then come in the form of Big Mom switching sides or getting removed from the war entirely due to other reasons.
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She just shouldn't have been given that bounty and title if she wasn't going to be handled that way. If she and Perospero switched them, their would be no problem.
It's precisely because she has that bounty and title that she was treated that way in WCI. It's precisely because she wad too strong that she had to be avoided. If another one was had her bounty and title, then this another one would have to be avoided too.
Now in Wano the story is different. Why Oda doesn't give her a more prominent role is beyond me… but Sengokusgoat is right that no Yonkou Commander will get the same level of attention that Katakuri got. They'll only be secondary enemies to be defeated.
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It's precisely because she has that bounty and title that she was treated that way in WCI. It's precisely because she wad too strong that she had to be avoided. If another one was had her bounty and title, then this another one would have to be avoided too.
Now in Wano the story is different. Why Oda doesn't give her a more prominent role is beyond me… but Sengokusgoat is right that no Yonkou Commander will get the same level of attention that Katakuri got. They'll only be secondary enemies to be defeated.
Sorry but I don't buy it. She just looked like she didn't deserve her bounty and title. From her introduction to now in Wano, she has been outdone by Perospero.
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Saying Smoothie is being held back because she is too strong and too important and whatever to be used too early would be great and all, if not for the fact her ranking is equal to Cracker, Katakuri, Jack, Queen and King and she is the only one in that list who still has shown nothing.
Notice only two in there were introduced before her and yet all but her did something already, even King who probably didn't appeared in 10 pages total yet.Her treatment is not a logical consequence of her ranking/power if it is exclusive to her among all who share that same characteristic.
Now, I get she is a chill one who seems more laid-back than all those and that justifies her not being as proactive as the others. But, damage control aside, it is what it is.
It's the same as saying Compote was not useful yet because she is one of the "monsters", even though Perospero, Daifuku and Oven all did their share and more by this point.
I wonder if there is something else that sets Smoothie and Compote apart from their peers, though…
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Smoothie hasn't shown nothing, she served people drinks at the wedding. Not just anyone can squeeze all the juices out of people or animals to make drinks.
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Sorry but I don't buy it. She just looked like she didn't deserve her bounty and title. From her introduction to now in Wano, she has been outdone by Perospero.
Whatever if you think she doesn't deserve it. She's the one who's got that bounty and title, and that's because she's stronger than Perospero.
We don't say that Nami is stronger than Franky or Robin just because Nami gets more screentime. Characters fill different roles.
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Whatever if you think she doesn't deserve it. She's the one who's got that bounty and title, and that's because she's stronger than Perospero.
We don't say that Nami is stronger than Franky or Robin just because Nami gets more screentime. Characters fill different roles.
You say she is stronger than Perospero because of her bounty and title but how the characters have actually acted says otherwise. We don't even have to look at everything. Just look at the scenes where they are both present. Who stands out more?
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Smoothie hasn't shown nothing, she served people drinks at the wedding. Not just anyone can squeeze all the juices out of people or animals to make drinks.
She is an excellent hostess
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Whatever if you think she doesn't deserve it. She's the one who's got that bounty and title, and that's because she's stronger than Perospero.
We don't say that Nami is stronger than Franky or Robin just because Nami gets more screentime. Characters fill different roles.
Strength doesn't necessarily determine a person's bounty as has been mentioned before in the manga. Of course Oda likes to use it to show strength or hype-up a character but a strong pirate who doesn't go around committing a lot of crimes or causing trouble won't have a high bounty.
Franky has a lower bounty than Usopp and Robin but if you're talking pure strength Franky has them beat.
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Then imagine how strong someone as passive as Smoothie must be to get that kind of bounty.
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Also God Usopp had a higher bounty than Sanji after Dressrosa. There are some things only a sniper can do, like take down the most important member of Doflamingo's organization not once, but twice.
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You say she is stronger than Perospero because of her bounty and title but how the characters have actually acted says otherwise. We don't even have to look at everything. Just look at the scenes where they are both present. Who stands out more?
It's one thing to wish Perospero swapped positions with her, but that doesn't change the fact that she has it and he doesn't. You liking him more/disliking Smoothie isn't going to change that she's stronger. Weaker characters getting more screentime than stronger ones is nothing new for this series. Not to mention Perospero is the eldest son with his own form of seniority, so it's not like he's some random BM Pirate either.
He stood out more than Cracker too in the end, but I wouldn't say he's stronger than him either lol
Strength doesn't necessarily determine a person's bounty as has been mentioned before in the manga. Of course Oda likes to use it to show strength or hype-up a character but a strong pirate who doesn't go around committing a lot of crimes or causing trouble won't have a high bounty.
Franky has a lower bounty than Usopp and Robin but if you're talking pure strength Franky has them beat.
The BM Pirates aren't the Strawhats, or some other thing that varies wildly like the Warlords' bounties.
I completely agree with the whole bounties shouldn't be read into much in a general sense, but it's super straightforward regarding the BM Pirates as an antagonist group. The only actual outlier is wondering how Perospero compares to Snack.
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Saying Smoothie is being held back because she is too strong and too important and whatever to be used too early would be great and all, if not for the fact her ranking is equal to Cracker, Katakuri, Jack, Queen and King and she is the only one in that list who still has shown nothing.
Notice only two in there were introduced before her and yet all but her did something already, even King who probably didn't appeared in 10 pages total yet.Her treatment is not a logical consequence of her ranking/power if it is exclusive to her among all who share that same characteristic.
If you understood the argument, then you know that it's all about context. Her treatment being a logical consequence of her ranking/power makes sense in the context of WCI considering the circunstances of that arc.
Anyway, I'm not saying that we should be happy that Smoothie is such a great character who is unfortunately sidelined. No. I'm just saying that it's understandable why it happened in WCI.
Who knows what to expect from her in the future (and the BMP as a whole), and right now I'm wondering if I should demand her to be more relevant character just because she happens to be super strong. I'll have my final opinion only after all of this is over.
Btw, the other Yonkou Commander have a lot to show too. None of Kaidou's calamities have done anything near enough after Jack left Zou. Queen might be charismatic, but his role up till now has been to help Luffy get away from jail. The only difference is that we have more reason to expect big fights against them soon while Smoothie's future is vague.
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You say she is stronger than Perospero because of her bounty and title but how the characters have actually acted says otherwise. We don't even have to look at everything. Just look at the scenes where they are both present. Who stands out more?
And standing out more means that a given character is superior to the other? It makes one a better character yes, but not a stronger one.
Strength doesn't necessarily determine a person's bounty as has been mentioned before in the manga. Of course Oda likes to use it to show strength or hype-up a character but a strong pirate who doesn't go around committing a lot of crimes or causing trouble won't have a high bounty.
Franky has a lower bounty than Usopp and Robin but if you're talking pure strength Franky has them beat.
We all know that strenght is not equal to bounty, but it is evidence.
And Smoothie is a Sweet Commander, a title given by Big Mom herself, not by the perception of the WG.
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Well, even Oda addressed in an SBS that Smoothie is strong and how he just couldn't show as much as he wanted to during Whole Cake. So I'm hopeful he will use her now in some form, even if she only thins the lines of the Alliance a bit (or even beats someone of Killer's or Izo's calibre, strong but less relevant).
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The difference between Katakuri and Smoothie is Katakuri was sitting outside the wedding sniping fools that showed up with jelly beans while Smoothie was inside serving drinks.
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Also while Katakuri was working his ass to stop Luffy and Bege from doing whatever they were trying to do at the wedding, Smoothie was just standing there for the most part and eventually asking for someone to do something.
Just to clarify, I am not saying she is weak. My complaint is her abyssal portrayal that only looks good when you compare her to Compote. I am totally aware that she is supposed to be incredibly strong, but I complain about Oda not taking absolutely any chance to convey that while all the others who share her supposed relevance in the crew had plenty of that.
Saying it is because her circumstances were different is not an excuse because the complaint is exactly that she was never put in any circumstance where she could be exploited as a character. And, obviously, that's only if you consider the naval chase. As I mentioned, she was there at the wedding and Oda was sure to use that time to make Katakuri and others showcase their abilities. The fact he has to use an SBS about her DF to make an addendum "btw, she is strong" is like he is aware of the fact that nobody would get that from the manga alone.
EDIT: I made a comparison of all Katakuri and Smoothie contributions at the wedding (a situation both were present and supposedly had the same opportunities to act):
! Katakuri:
- killed someone who was trying to open fire at the wedding.
- tried to kill Sanji after Pudding failed.
- instantly covered BM when sensed shit was about to happen.
- obstructed Luffy as he started his attack.
- confronted Bege when he showed signs of betrayal.
- tried to keep the plan moving by giving instructions.
- kept pressure on Luffy to avoid his plans from succeeding.
- provided earplugs for his family so they could resume action while BM was screaming.
- rescued Brulée.
- jammed Big Father's cannons.
- obstructed Caesar who was trying to run away with Bege and everyone inside of him.
- took down Ichiji
- saved siblings as the chateau started falling down.
! Smoothie:
- screamed asking someone to stop Bege.
- held Nami down for a few seconds.
- took down Reiju.
I mean, sure, Katakuri had the advantage of future vision, but that can only do so much. The main difference is because Katakuri was trying to do something, Smoothie wasn't.
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I'm pretty sure Katakuri wasn't the only one to outdo her at the wedding either. Perospero did as well; he was pretty much behind Katakuri and now he has once again outdone her in Wano.
That's why I say he should have her bounty and title.
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Perospero did nothing noteworthy during the wedding. His big moment feat-wise in WCI happened when he was aboard the Sunny together with Katakuri.
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Smootie had to be passive, Sanji was busy making a cake (and wouldn't fight a woman anyways) and Zoro was MIA and the rest of the Strawhats were barely holding off psycho hunger big mom.
If you throw another Katakuri tier enemy into the mix..who exactly is going to face off against her? Or are we going to have Chopper equal a Yonko commander before Zoro does?
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Again, is Oda not gonna allow the rubbing and Sanji to be taken because Smoothie got to please you with a show of strength?
Only one person provided an alternative and even that was about Brook getting the PG in his soul form and that is impossible. Every Sweet Star being all used up in the Yonko's intro arc (not the arc the crew ultimately loses in) just to please your curiosity of why she has that role makes no sense.
Cracker wasn't jut used to show strength. His constant remarks about Sanji not returning made Luffy be wary of how dire things are even if he did get past him in any way. Luffy, as usual, didn't care. That resulted in Sanji reinforcing that sentiment by attacking Luffy, so he would stop coming after him.
Snack served as an update on a Supernova.
Kata was used to show Luffy's power to gain admiration from even enemies and show another side of the BM Pirates.
Smoothie doesn't really have to serve a purpose because this wasn't the arc to flesh everyone significant out. It was literally the BM Pirates intro arc. Kaido is about to lose Wano in some way, so it makes sense to give us everything on them. Same as Jack in Zou arc.
Why give everything away for Smoothie when this crew hasn't been defeated from and only just barely escaping from them? Smoothie stops Brook, does that stop Oda from making sure the rubbing doesn't leave? No. Smoothie makes a strong effort during the Wedding. Does that stop the bomb from helping in the escape? Smoothie lands a blow on the Sunny. Does the crew not escape in the end anyway? Where does she matter most that changes anything for WCI arc?
It's all clear that some just want a 1 dimensional show of strength and don't really care if the character can make an impact on the actual story outside of power depiction. Smoothie serves no purpose in an already heavily crowded arc where the SH just barely escape. They are going to escape the enemy, why waste every character when the chase is still on? No one is providing an alternative where Smoothie makes a difference, just "show your strength and why you have the position already"
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Perospero was the one that had the Vinsmokes and immobilized Capone and protected Big Mom along with Katakuri when she was vulnerable. I still remember his awesome Candy stairs too.
He filled the role that Smoothie should have.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Smoothie's design and was hyped for her to do something when she was revealed as a Sweet Commander. I think the real problem was Smoothie's fruit power. She can only use her power if she can grab someone, and despite having a sword she was never shown to react and show amazing swordsmanship or fighting abilities. In my opinion she was outshone by Katakuri and Perospero, and even Oven and Daifuku. Of course all of their powers are much more versatile and have range of some sort.
It would be nice if the Big Mom pirates actually show up at Onigashima and do something so that Smoothie can redeem herself.
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He lied to her to save his own ass in WCI arc and is currently bent on not going along with his mother's alliance. He serves as the opposite to Kata when it comes to the BM Pirates. It's not just his show of strength. It's his disposition. How do you flesh out Smoothie in that same manner in an already cramped arc, if the chase is meant to continue? If the chase is meant to continue, why give everything? Pero is the oldest child and is in contention for leading. Should Pero had taken Cracker or Snack's role? Those 2 literally failed in the most essential field of making sure the reputation is upheld and Smoothie hasn't been at the center of failure at all.
I think she can drain liquid through her sword as well. In 894, her sword is the only thing that is wet.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Smoothie's design and was hyped for her to do something when she was revealed as a Sweet Commander. I think the real problem was Smoothie's fruit power. She can only use her power if she can grab someone, and despite having a sword she was never shown to react and show amazing swordsmanship or fighting abilities. In my opinion she was outshone by Katakuri and Perospero, and even Oven and Daifuku. Of course all of their powers are much more versatile and have range of some sort.
It would be nice if the Big Mom pirates actually show up at Onigashima and do something so that Smoothie can redeem herself.
I think you're downplaying her powers. She can manipulate liquids overall in many weird ways, just like she became a giant out of nowhere because of her devil fruit.
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Lol agree with most peopl. When BM in tantrum, Smoothie just running away panicking while Perospero quickly acted and told Big Mom that the SHs had the wedding cake and led Big Mom to go after the SHs but it also prevent more destructrion, also allowed the other to make a plan to stop Big Mom. Queen also think a way to stop Big Mom and succeded. When King patroling aroung the koi waterfall, she also cannot think a way to by pass him and just wait there until alliance announcement, that is not a good thing for a commander who cannot command something.
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Let me go by this logic then. Is there something wrong with BM's bounty and Yonkou position? She wasn't able to anything, but drown when King knocked the boat lol
She just helped the Udon takeover and Luffy's training
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Is There a break this week?
July 5th for official relase of new chapter? Oh well..
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I think the problem many people seem to have here lies in the somewhat constant weak depiction of women Oda falls often victim too. I'm by no means saying that she is weak or that fighting skill is the only thing that matters in One Piece but at the same time let's face it, fights play an integral part in the story and you can't blame readers to if they expect to see them in a Shonen manga.
I'd like to use another female character to explain this and I hope I'm not opening a can of worms here but let's talk about Rebecca or more specifically about her fighting style. Personally I find her fighting style great on a conceptual basis. Even if you're not a martial arts super fan it should be easy to understand that things like avoiding your opponents attacks, looking for blind spots to strike or using your opponents power against him are all things done in real martial arts. Some martial arts like Wing Tsun operate mostly on that basis, which is why one could actually write great combat scenes with Robin and her DF ability because it would crank what's possible in such martial arts to eleven but that's a whole different can of worms. Anyways Rebecca's fighting style is theoretically really interesting and it can in real life work well to take out any strong opponent so there's no reason why a fictional story should be unable to accomplish the same feat. However the way she was portrayed she looked for the lack of a better work incompetent when using this fighting style, which made the fight appear less appealing then it needed to be. I think that if she only looked more competent or badass and less helpless you could have had the exact same outcome in her block but making her look much stronger. But that's not what we got.
And of course there's other problems with her portrayal but let's not get there. So if this pattern repeats itself too often then at some point as a reader you might start to subconsiously set up another supposedly strong female character for disappointment, which is what I think many people did with Smoothie. I know that when I read Whole Cake island I wasn't expecting her to get any significant moments that will make her stand above the likes of Perospero, Daifuku or Oven. Does this mean I think she's a disappointment? No because I do think that I know that Oda wants us to believe that she's capable of much more. But in some situations show not tell works better. To bring up a completely different example iirc everybody thought that Jaws got owned by Kuzan during the Paramount War which in my eyes is not what happened. I mean with him Oda even showed a glimpse of what he is capable of but apparently not enough for many people, while I personally think that Oda wanted to get the point across that they fought on equal grounds but we never saw a full fight because Oda couldn't flesh out any of the fights during Marineford.
So yeah, pair the artistic choices to skip some aspects in order to move forward with the story with the fact that there's been several occations where especially female characters seem to have gotten a lesser dedicated portrayal by the author and each new female character is already fighting an uphill battle upon her arrival. Is Smoothie weak? No. But do I expect great things from her in the future? Also no. Just my two cents.
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The logic i'm getting is that she's a Sweet Star and should be at the center of failing with the other Sweet Stars, even if it doesn't matter in the arc. That's the only alternative i can see. All of that, just to satisfy an example of strength for power scalers. No matter who comes through, they all use the same sentiment. "She didn't show me why she has a high position". That's power scaling and none of you hide it well
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The logic i'm getting is that she's a Sweet Star and should be at the center of failing with the other Sweet Stars, even if it doesn't matter in the arc. That's the only alternative i can see. All of that, just to satisfy an example of strength for power scalers. No matter who comes through, they all use the same sentiment. "She didn't show me why she has a high position". That's power scaling and none of you hide it well
What is power scaling and why is it a bad thing? I'm not being sarcastic here. I'm really clueless on that matter.
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What is power scaling and why is it a bad thing? I'm not being sarcastic here. I'm really clueless on that matter.
You can't troll better than me. I promise you that.
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What is power scaling and why is it a bad thing? I'm not being sarcastic here. I'm really clueless on that matter.
I think there's nothing wrong with it. It's just really lame. Like 00's grunge band or like, Chernobyl.
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I think there's nothing wrong with it. It's just really lame. Like 00's grunge band or like, Chernobyl.
Can you actually explain it though? I also don't really get It either.
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I found this from some wiki page:
Powerscaling is the method of determining a character's power through comparing them to other characters in their series.
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So does expecting characters to live up to their bounty or title fall under that?
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Well from the way you phrased that question it probably doesn't, to you.
To me, it kinda does, yeah. Especially when the story is still ongoing.
I wouldn't stress it too much if I were you. The Smooch is going to get her glory moment.Edit: to clarify, I think expecting anything from a story is kinda weird. the story goes as it goes. it doesn't owe us anything.