Isn't "this thing might be hilarious" the lie we told ourselves to get through this entire campaign?
Hey no one figured Wikileaks would muddle things up back in July, and James Comey coming in with that desperate Hail Mary the week prior to the election.
1984 has decided that in addition to there being no land war with Asia, there is also no climate in climate change.
Trump supposedly writing his own inauguration speech…...oh boy.
Any source on this? Either way, I don't doubt it :P
I want it to be true so those that voted for him realize just how insanely incompetent he is for the job, and seeing use terrible rhetoric would be a fine step in that direction.
I had a conversation with a friend's mom who, to my surprise, ended up voting for Trump. Her reason was because she didn't like Clinton's corruptness, and wanted to ensure that the corrupt career politicians wouldn't continue in American politics.
And yet Trump isn't looking to be any better kind of corrupt.
I know these are points we repeat over and over in this thread, and maybe I'm just repeating them for catharsis. The more this whole election stews on my mind, the more I'm upset with how it has turned out and how increasingly awful his cabinet picks and logic has been so far. However, I do have hope that Trump will go down in flames over scandals, and last no longer than 4 years.
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Any source on this? Either way, I don't doubt it :P
Is this treason?
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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No it's proving a point Trump fans are to delusional to be aware of.
That they're closet authoritarians?
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That they're closet authoritarians?
Was going for uneducated morons buying into the dubious nonsense of a shit stirrer. But that works too.
I mean if we're going off his wife's example, we'll just get a copy/paste of Obama's speach
For those hoping for his inaguration speech to bomb it should be noted that his speech will most certainly be heavily vetted by a couple of professional speech writers before it even glimpses the light of day.
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For those hoping for his inaguration speech to bomb it should be noted that his speech will most certainly be heavily vetted by a couple of professional speech writers before it even glimpses the light of day.
Trump can read from a heavily altered script/put together script and still be horrible because he's an awful speaker.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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For those hoping for his inaguration speech to bomb it should be noted that his speech will most certainly be heavily vetted by a couple of professional speech writers before it even glimpses the light of day.
Trump can read from a heavily altered script/put together script and still be horrible because he's an awful speaker.
Exactly; it could be written by the resurrected team of Jefferson and Lincoln but Trump would still screw it up.
If nothing else, he's not the kind of guy who is going to take constructive criticism well.
If nothing else, he's not the kind of guy who is going to take constructive criticism well.
We already know he doesn't take objective criticism well as is.
However it goes it'll be his first major speech addressing the nation so it will be interesting to see which way he takes it.
Will he go down the self congratulatory route and clamp down on his one-man saviour complex or will he actually attempt to inspire coming together to solve problems too complex for any individual? The way his speech is framed can give either impression.
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He'll mention that it's time to unite and the media will unanimously say that he made the presidential pivot and became the uniter-in-chief. And say dems need to get over it and support the president of all Americans.
However it goes it'll be his first major speech addressing the nation so it will be interesting to see which way he takes it.
Will he go down the self congratulatory route and clamp down on his one-man saviour complex or will he actually attempt to inspire coming together to solve problems too complex for any individual? The way his speech is framed can give either impression.
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Will he go down the self congratulatory route and clamp down on his one-man saviour complex or will he actually attempt to inspire coming together to solve problems too complex for any individual?
Complicating things since 2009.
….He seems to disregard that includes himself where the Trump University settlement, restaurant reviews, charity investigation, not being embarrassed at his nomination, losing the popular vote, are concerned.
The wise and frugal choice of those anxious about the economy.
Remember when Obama congratulated Trump on his victory, encouraged people to give him a chance, and said everyone was, "rooting for his success"? Was Obama really being genuine? Was Obama actually rooting for Donald Trump to have a successful Republican presidency rolling back many of the mandates and policies he worked so hard on for the last 8 years? No, not really. Sure, Obama wants him to succeed in a very vague general sense as a president of the United States but there's no damn way he's actually rooting for Trump to succeed and win another 4 years in the oval office. If anyone thinks differently do explain.
The point is the impression. Even if Obama's full of shit (Kaiolino and GvR) and even if Obama has said and continues to say things that would reveal his true nature when he's supposedly "rooting" for Trump's success (Ubiq) he's attempting to make as smooth of a transition as possible and the impression that he gives has a lot to do with that. Obama understands that. I don't really know if Trump does. So if you get the impression that Trump is attempting to move the country forward with his inaguration speech talking about unity it's better than the alternative "me me me" speech. Of course, intentions matter. If Donald Trump doesn't actually intend to unite the country behind him then you won't get that impression no matter what he says.
What are the 15 warning signs of impending tyranny? As tyrants take control of democracies, they typically:
1. Exaggerate their mandate to govern – claiming, for example, that they won an election by a landslide even after losing the popular vote.
2. Repeatedly claim massive voter fraud in the absence of any evidence, in order to restrict voting in subsequent elections.
3. Publicly criticize anyone who criticizes them, labeling them “enemies.”
4. Turn the public against journalists or media outlets that criticize them, calling them “deceitful” and “scum.”
5. Hold few if any press conferences, preferring to communicate with the public directly through mass rallies and unfiltered statements.
6. Tell the public big lies, causing them to doubt the truth and believe fictions that support the tyrants' goals.
7. Blame economic stresses on immigrants or racial or religious minorities, and foment public bias and even violence against them.
8. Attribute acts of domestic violence on “enemies within,” and use such events as excuses to beef up internal security and limit civil liberties.
9. Threaten mass deportations, registries of religious minorities, and the banning or extreme vetting of refugees.
10. Seek to reduce or eliminate competing centers of power, such as trade unions and opposition parties.
11. Appoint family members to high positions of authority.
12. Surround themselves with their own personal security force rather than with a security detail accountable to the public.
13. Put generals and other military commanders into top civilian posts.
14. Make personal alliances with foreign dictators.
15. Draw no distinction between personal property and public property, profiteering from their public office.
Be warned. 20 days to go. And Happy New Year.
Sigh .
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Where is this from? The fact that Trump checks every single box is terrifying but also a sign that the source isn't impartial.
Robert Reich, who among other things was Secretary of Labor in the Clinton administration.
There's bias sure, but it ain't wrong. It really is the dictator checklist. And it really, really isn't hyperbole to be comparing Trump to Hitler.
Makes it unfortunate that calling someone Hitler has been such an overblown insult for decades that when it's pointed to now, accurately as a comparison, its seen as overblown rather than… scarily close.
See also all the current south american dictators.
Robert Reich, who among other things was Secretary of Labor in the Clinton administration.
There's bias sure, but it ain't wrong. It really is the dictator checklist. And it really, really isn't hyperbole to be comparing Trump to Hitler.
Makes it unfortunate that calling someone Hitler has been such an overblown insult for decades that when it's pointed to now, accurately as a comparison, its seen as overblown rather than… scarily close.
See also all the current south american dictators.
Robert Reich was my guess. My thinking was just that it wasn't a standardized checklist but one tailored to the likes of Trump (and Hitler). Doesn't make the point any less valid though.
It really feels like the media is too easily distracted to focus on the serious, consistent issues that he's had. I'm still waiting on the media to give up on getting any sort of real substance out of him and just focus on scathing coverage of the stupid, dangerous, corrupt things he's been doing. Trump treats them like an enemy while they treat him with respect and acquiescence.
Incoming White House press secretary wants to punish Hillary Clinton for influencing the election.
I don't get the logic in this even if it was true. She influenced people enough to still lose?
Incoming White House press secretary wants to punish Hillary Clinton for influencing the election.
I don't get the logic in this even if it was true. She influenced people enough to still lose?
The so-called logic is that their ploy is to "Deny and Divert" aka "accuse the opposition of the same thing they did while denying they did it or profited by allies doing it."
In other words they are trying to create a smokescreen to divert attention from the "near-treasonous' cries against Trump as he favors the Russians who hacked the elections, thus influcing them. The Trump team knows one way to divert their bases attention as by screaming "Hillary is a crook!" no matter what the situation is.
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one of my fave responses was this=
“Looks like somebody woke up on the wrong side of humanity this morning,”
Robert Reich, who among other things was Secretary of Labor in the Clinton administration.
There's bias sure, but it ain't wrong. It really is the dictator checklist. And it really, really isn't hyperbole to be comparing Trump to Hitler.
Makes it unfortunate that calling someone Hitler has been such an overblown insult for decades that when it's pointed to now, accurately as a comparison, its seen as overblown rather than… scarily close.
See also all the current south american dictators.
The boy who cried "Literaly Hitler"
wtf is this :|
A message from someone who doesn't understand that he's a public servant and not a king. That he just called people he's supposed to serve enemies.
Also Alt-Right in-fighting.
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/01/507395282/alt-right-infighting-simmers-around-inaugural-deploraball
A message from someone who doesn't understand that he's a public servant and not a king. That he just called people he's supposed to serve enemies.
Also Alt-Right in-fighting.
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/01/507395282/alt-right-infighting-simmers-around-inaugural-deploraball
Wow, so they even share inane purist infighting with the far-left.
That's actually rather encouraging!
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We're the american national socialist party, not the bloody national socialist party of america!
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You guuuuuuuys, how can he take credit for something he didn't do if you keep making fun of him?
Oh no, this only leaves us with the option of mocking his hardcore followers.
"Comet Ping Pong is a pedophile ring!" "Comet Ping Pong Shooter is a DNC plant!"
"The election is rigged!" "Looking into a rigged election is a waste of resources!"
"Free speech DURR!" "Everyone criticizing Trump needs to move on!"
"Release Obama’s real birth certificate!" "Trump’s tax return is irrelevant!"
"Obama is a Muslim, not a Christian!" "What does it matter that Trump isn’t Christian!?"
"Trump tells it like it is!!" "You have to read between the Trump lines, he’s not being literal!"
"Why’s everything about race with liberals?!" "Literal White Supremacists endorse Trump; no problem."
"Liberals are sheep and only care about their safe spaces; gets news from Fox News, Breitbart, Drudge, Infowars, etc."
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Oh no… people are mocking the Prez? Its like that has never happened before!!
Boohoo, big crybabies, get over it. Trump asked for the mockery when he first got into politics. Mocking the presidential candidates and the president elect is old time practice that has been happening for a long time. It's not new and its not going away.
Trump needs to get over it because after being mocked as a presidential candidate, then as the president-elect, comes being mocked as president. Its not going to end anytime soon.
President Porky Minch.
I forget, did George W. Bushe team ever ask to not be mocked? I feel like it must have happened at one point, but I don't remember it. If not, then that's one thing the last Republican president has over the guy, besides a 2-term presidency.
Trump's making even the darkest memories seem a little brighter. What a time to be alive.
I remember Republicans getting huffy about people making fun of him but I don't really recall the Administration itself whining about it.
Oh lovely.
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Oh lovely.
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I can't even be surprised anymore.
Actually it's about ethics in
Wait
This is what Donald Trump has to say about it.
Look at this fine balancing act of not condoning but simultaneously handwaving the GOP's actions.
"Independent ethics"
"Unfair"
Pick one, babyhands.
I just realized something that makes me utterly dejected about our current political climate/system in this country.
I'm at work, and we're allowed to read news and the like on our breaks etc…. but I'm afraid to click on any of these links because.... it is entirely plausible that I will click on one of them to go to a news story, and a picture of a Swastika may be a thing....
Because literal Nazis are now being taken seriously as a political movement in this country.
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For those hoping for his inaguration speech to bomb it should be noted that his speech will most certainly be heavily vetted by a couple of professional speech writers before it even glimpses the light of day.
It's Trump though; inappropriate off-script remarks are inevitable.
GOP reversed their decision to gut the ethics commision. Public outrage works.
I just realized something that makes me utterly dejected about our current political climate/system in this country.
I'm at work, and we're allowed to read news and the like on our breaks etc…. but I'm afraid to click on any of these links because.... it is entirely plausible that I will click on one of them to go to a news story, and a picture of a Swastika may be a thing....
Because literal Nazis are now being taken seriously as a political movement in this country.
Yeah, that really infuriates me too. I feel like the media's new love affair with Nazis is actually distracting us from the swamp that Trump is preparing to fill the white house with.
^ This newspaper is bad
Ford announced plans to cancel a 1.6 billion dollar factory in Mexico and decided to spend more money and add jobs in Michigan. Well, it's turning 700 temporary jobs at a plant in Michigan into permanent jobs.
_"This is a vote of confidence for President-elect Trump and some of the policies he may be pursuing," Fields said (Fords CEO)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/01/03/ford-motor-co-donald-trump-mexico-us/96106334/
_ Well, this is good. It is. It might be small but to those people getting this it's huge. Too bad this simply can't happen on a large enough scale to make a significant difference on our economy but you bet Trump will pretend that's what's happening. Anyway, good news for Michigan and Trump deserves some credit according to Ford.
It's hard being stuck between hating Trump's attempts to weaken the press and the believing that much of the press can already do a fairly good job of weakening itself. Not saying that I want NYTimes to be Thiel'd out of existence.
