@FolhaS:
The fishmen knew about Bellemere's house, not about the girls.
The house and Bellmere. Hiding two pre-teens for….literally forever? Yeah I don't think. No matter who attempted it.
Like I said this wasn't even the plan, the plan was to put them in a boat and let them escape the island. No one ever optioned hiding them, which outright tells us no one thought it made sense.
And the boat idea? Well the Fishmen never kept that option open, and Bellmere knew it.
Bellemere could have stayed quiet and paid them and later trying to find way to get the girls safe. I'm sure being a former marine not just a regular farmer might have some advantage on planning those sort of things.
This is a pointless argument to make, the characters literally describe the boat idea as being something that actually was impossible. And literally credit Bellmere with (because she's a former Marine!) knowing that was never going to work. This isn't just my conjecture, this is actual dialogue.
If Anne Frank and her family were able to stay hidden a couple of years I'm sure a pair of small girls could also fly under the radar for a while.
Anne Frank lived in downtown Amsterdam. Not a village on a tiny island.
And….then Anne Frank was caught and ended up in a death camp so what's your point??
Do you also forget what the rules were? The Fishmen would massacre an entire village of one person couldn't pay, that was how they planned to do things after the first round of payments. If they found out two girls were hiding unpaid for, Cocoyashi would be destroyed. And most of the people killed.
And yes, like in the case of Anne Frank, it's not even close to an ideal situation or permanent solution but spending more time with her daughters is better than trying to catch a bullet with her teeth right away.
lol, the right away here is overlooking that the Fishmen would be killing the girls if they were found without ransom money for years. Let alone found right away.
That's the rules the whole situation revolves around. If you can't pay your share, you die. And even your whole village.
Are you saying Arlong would find the two of them unaccounted for and let them live?
How goddamn selfish would Bellmere be for postponing their death vs allowing them to live.
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@Fraco:
Let me tell you that Oda wasn't talking about the principle in itself, that is clearly a joke used to define Sanji's crush on women, he was talking about sticking to principles to death.
Sanji vs Kalifa was meant to tell the reader that Sanji would rather die than go against his principles. Even if it's a shitty principle for you, at least teach kids to not beat girls. Anyway I firmly believe Oda wanted this message (sticking to principles to death) to reach the reader.
Sanji can die all he wants. Too bad Robin's life was the one actually really on the line.
And hey! Almost as if one of the biggest biggest messages Oda has to his readers is actually "Stand up for your friends! Camaraderie is gold!"
Let me also tell you this, we are not talking about principles IRL, we are talking about principles in OP manga.
Why yes you're right.
In the OP manga it was very explicitly made clear that Robin would be tortured and executed after passing into government clutches when Spandam took her through that huge gate.
It was even made clear to Sanji.
Principles often used as a narrative meaning - to define characters, sometimes as a joke, always as a way of life for people in the manga, narrated in a manner understandable even by kids.
It is understandable to kids that that scene wasn't a gag scene, and that Nico Robin was going to die. Oda also laid out in plain simple numbers that Califa wasn't a dainty flower, but a mega superhuman.
So please if you are going to dismiss my arguments just saying that not beating a women is not for the greater good, I just hope you don't tell this to your kids
No one on planet earth argues not hitting a woman is "for the greater good". Are you just using phrases and words without knowing what they mean or what, because I don't think you have any idea what "greater good" means.
I would definitely tell my kids to full on defend themselves from a superhuman assassin 100 times stronger than the average soldier, let alone if the life of a best friend was on the line. Seems like common sense.
Anyway, we could also talk about Devil Fruit in real life and rubber physics to be more critics…
We could obsess about male to female muscle mass in the rubber magic pirate comic book as well to be the biggest selective "its fantasy!" creeps of all.
By the way, I'm out
You were never in.