That's an early design for Moriah, actually.
The Seventh Warlord
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Moria is logically at the top of the image, Jinbei to the left.
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Even if its him, it will be a total different design in the history.
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Maybe yes, maybe not.
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Moria is logically at the top of the image, Jinbei to the left.
And why he doesn't have a name? Contrary to the others Shichibukaï?Both of the designs are Moriah.
The mysterious one is his earliest concept, before the more "modern" concept that the first image displays.
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@Galaxy:
Both of the designs are Moriah.
The mysterious one is his earliest concept, before the more "modern" concept that the first image displays.
If it was really the former(old) concept of Moria, why not to have specified it? Why there are only interrogation marks next to him?
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If it was really the former(old) concept of Moria, why not to have specified it? Why there are only interrogation marks next to him?
And why not to have put these > ゲッコー・モリア next to him ?:happy:The Japanese text above the picture clarifies that it's Moriah (a "mysterious character"), but in a completely different form than Oda went for in the final version (personality wise, design wise, and backstory wise).
Not to mention that this book came out in 2010, and would have no reason to show the "mysterious seventh Warlord" when the book shows designs of characters that were already seen.
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New shichibukai is Rob Lucci (joke, but would be amazing)
Could be Zoro's dad.
How long has Mihawk been a shichibukai because I always got the feeling Mihawk cut Zephyr's arm but then again it wouldn't be shrouded in mystery if it was.Shiki the Lion as the newest shichibukai maybe? It fits in with the animal theme (so does Rob the leopard in all fairness).
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How long has Mihawk been a shichibukai because I always got the feeling Mihawk cut Zephyr's arm but then again it wouldn't be shrouded in mystery if it was.
The new Shichibukai that severed Z's arm joined their ranks during the timeskip, so it's most certainly not Mihawk.
Shiki the Lion as the newest shichibukai maybe? It fits in with the animal theme (so does Rob the leopard in all fairness).
Outside of the parts that set up Strong World, I can't see Shiki reappearing (in the manga anyway).
New Members don't need to have an animal theme to join the Shichibukai, as Buggy showed.
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Shiki doesn't make sense for multiple reasons.
And the 7th has a devil fruit, apparently. I think I read Z lost his arm due to it, and not the cut of a sword or something.
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Well if there is some basis on animals being of relevance to Shichibukai and the 7th presumed to have DF powers then I have a slightly off ball possibility to suggest. It's probably highly unlikely but with Sengoku retired from his position in the Marines could he conceivably take up a different role as a Shichibukai? He does have a pet goat and wears that bird hat of you want animal connection :D
And according to the wiki "he stated that justice is a matter of personal values and does not endorse one form of justice over the other"
Which says to me he would take on any role he deemed necessary to enable justice even if it means becoming a pirate. Then again he dislikes Pirates. -
I guess it depends whether Sengoku was once a pirate and he was being a pirate and a marine at the same time when he cut off Zephyr's arm, and whether Zephyr was fine by having Sengoku as a fleet admiral, but against him as a Shichibukai.
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@zeff:
I vouch for this guy to be the 7th shichibukai
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140916074146/onepiece/images/d/d6/SBS_Volume_68_New_Shichibukai.pngyou know what would be hilarious?
if that was really what the 7th shichibukai looks like..of course "filtered" through oda's style@Galaxy:The Japanese text above the picture clarifies that it's Moriah (a "mysterious character"), but in a completely different form than Oda went for in the final version (personality wise, design wise, and backstory wise).
Not to mention that this book came out in 2010, and would have no reason to show the "mysterious seventh Warlord" when the book shows designs of characters that were already seen.
well,oda "poilered" boa hancock many and many years before her actual appearance..of course her design was different,much as this one can be different…
i didn't read the translation of the databook,but if it was an early design for moria,why he doesn't have the name beside like mihawk and dofla? -
well,oda "poilered" boa hancock many and many years before her actual appearance..of course her design was different,much as this one can be different…
i didn't read the translation of the databook,but if it was an early design for moria,why he doesn't have the name beside like mihawk and dofla?Wasn't that a teaser way back when the Strawhats entered the Grand Line for important characters that we'd see there? Because that's a whole lot different than a databook revealing early concept art for characters that have been introduced already.
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i didn't read the translation of the databook,but if it was an early design for moria,why he doesn't have the name beside like mihawk and dofla?
Because it's a "mysterious character" that was later transformed into the Moriah we know today.
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@Galaxy:
Because it's a "mysterious character" that was later transformed into the Moriah we know today.
did it says it anywhere in the databook that that is early moria?
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did it says it anywhere in the databook that that is early moria?
i thought the designs on the top of the page were moria'sIt says it above the mysterious design, yes.
Roughly "That's what Moriah's initial design is like".
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If it was really the former(old) concept of Moria, why not to have specified it? Why there are only interrogation marks next to him?
And why not to have put these > ゲッコー・モリア next to him ?:happy:Oda won't spoil any reveal with these books. It's old kuma or old dragon, or old Shiki.
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i didn't read the translation of the databook,but if it was an early design for moria,why he doesn't have the name beside like mihawk and dofla?
That was a teaser, Oda was certain that she was going to show up "soon" and did a preview, front and center, of coming soon characters. Not an old drawing in a book.
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Since, He/She was able to get away with riping off the arm of an admiral, and as a result of being recognized as one of the strongest and promoted as the Seventh Shichibukai. It would not be wrong to assume that, He/She will have direct and great influence in the future events. I would not be surprised if the ambiguity of the seventh will be more popular than Kaido's.
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Would be funny if Buggy was the one who cut off Zephyr's arm and is actually always acting like he's dumb and weak while he's actually on par with his former crewmate Shanks.
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Would be funny if Buggy was the one who cut off Zephyr's arm and is actually always acting like he's dumb and weak while he's actually on par with his former crewmate Shanks.
About as funny as if Shanks was actually really weak and everything he's done up to this point was due to dumb luck, coincidence and misunderstanding.
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About as funny as if Shanks was actually really weak and everything he's done up to this point was due to dumb luck, coincidence and misunderstanding.
Oh my god! That scar!
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Oh my god! That scar!
LOL you beat me to it, I was thinking the exact same thing
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It's gonna be Hattori You all just wait and see :D
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How long ago did this 7th warlord cut off Z's arm?? Like how many years ago was it?
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How long ago did this 7th warlord cut off Z's arm?? Like how many years ago was it?
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@Rune.:
How long ago did this 7th warlord cut off Z's arm?? Like how many years ago was it?
I didn't watch that movie so not sure if it ever stated the timeline. Can someone answer please?The movie itself is not canon, and it was never stated when his arm was cut off.
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Thanks, so if a warlord did cut off arm, maybe its one we know and not the unknown 7th
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How long ago did this 7th warlord cut off Z's arm?? Like how many years ago was it?
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How long ago did this 7th warlord cut off Z's arm?? Like how many years ago was it?
I didn't watch that movie so not sure if it ever stated the timeline. Can someone answer please?According to the wiki it was 10 years ago from now
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@Rune.:
Thanks, so if a warlord did cut off arm, maybe its one we know and not the unknown 7th
HmmZephyr quit the Navy cause the pirate who severed his arm became a shichibukai during the timeskip. So it has to be the 7th, unless it was Buggy or Law.
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Thanks everyone, this helps.
If it was 10 years ago, could DD have been the pirate?
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@Rune.:
Thanks everyone, this helps.
If it was 10 years ago, could DD have been the pirate?
I think the 7th is someone new, or hope it is at least.It is someone new, otherwise there would be no point at all for Oda to hide the identity of the guy who cut Zephyr's arm so carefully, not to mention for him to tie in new Shichibukai with Zephyr's past.
Of course, it's always possible the guy was mentioned or appeared in the story, for example, during ID arc.
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Just something I realized.Sakazuki mentioned "Including the one I've mentioned earlier".This probably means that he went into great lengths describing him-He could very well possibly be someone who is relatively unknown to the Marines.Zephyr possessed little information regarding him and he lost his arm.
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Just something I realized.Sakazuki mentioned "Including the one I've mentioned earlier".
That was not Sakazuki, that was Brandnew.
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That was not Sakazuki, that was Brandnew.
Isn't he the one that assigns bounties?It kinda proves my point even more.
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Isn't he the one that assigns bounties?It kinda proves my point even more.
We are talking about this, right?
http://bato.to/read/_/158793/one-piece_ch700_by_mangarule/13 -
We are talking about this, right?
http://bato.to/read/_/158793/one-piece_ch700_by_mangarule/13Yes.I'm just mentioning my reasoning,that's all.Something that came to my mind as I explained a while ago.
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Arlong during the fishmen island arc Im pretty sure they said Jimbei was the first fishmen warlord which leads me to believe another fishmen is the 7th warlord and other then Arlong and Jimbei no other fishmen pirate is sstrong enough
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Tbh, pretty sure Arlong isn't strong enough to be a warlord. Also, saying Jimbei is the first fishmAn warlord is like saying Obama is the first black US president. Doesn't mean anything really, except that there wasn't anyone before them.
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I do hope it's someone that we have seen already, if only for a panel or even on the background of a panel.
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My prediction would be someone from Wano.
He cut Z´s arm, so him being a swordman seems likely.
He has to be introduced somewhere now, because the yonkous will take the stage and until that we should know them and Wano is coming.
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Arlong during the fishmen island arc Im pretty sure they said Jimbei was the first fishmen warlord which leads me to believe another fishmen is the 7th warlord and other then Arlong and Jimbei no other fishmen pirate is sstrong enough
Arlong is nowhere near strong enough, then again Buggy is one now. :)
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Arlong is nowhere near strong enough, then again Buggy is one now. :)
Well, the difference is that Buggy commands a large crew of former ID prisoners.
Arlong… has nothing other than his own strength, which doesn't amount to much.
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@Don:
My prediction would be someone from Wano.
He cut Z´s arm, so him being a swordman seems likely.
He has to be introduced somewhere now, because the yonkous will take the stage and until that we should know them and Wano is coming.
Also he could be the reason why Kinemon and the samurai-gang is on their quest.I think that could be very interesting, given that he could be hyped up if Wano gets built up in the story as a badass country of swordsmen.
The only problem I have with that though is Mihawk is already the 'strongest swordsman in the world', and there isn't much room to build on another master swordsman shichibukai without taking away from the other. I feel like Z's arm explanation should be more of a fruit-based power, since we've seen other fruit abilities cut (Crocodile, Doflamingo) and it'd offer a better dynamic than yet another swordsman in Mihawk's shadow.
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I think that could be very interesting, given that he could be hyped up if Wano gets built up in the story as a badass country of swordsmen.
The only problem I have with that though is Mihawk is already the 'strongest swordsman in the world', and there isn't much room to build on another master swordsman shichibukai without taking away from the other. I feel like Z's arm explanation should be more of a fruit-based power, since we've seen other fruit abilities cut (Crocodile, Doflamingo) and it'd offer a better dynamic than yet another swordsman in Mihawk's shadow.
Wano will be more or less all about swordfighting, so it`s just natural that we see there damn strong swordmen.
The leading swordsmen from there must be famous and the challenge especially Zoro needs, after seeing, that he even defeated Pica without giving all.
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They keep a big mystery over him. I think it's a known character, since they din't even say his nickname, name, not even a shadow, nothing. Would be no reason to keep such a big mystery if he was new character.
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@Don:
My prediction would be someone from Wano.
He cut Z´s arm, so him being a swordman seems likely.
He has to be introduced somewhere now, because the yonkous will take the stage and until that we should know them and Wano is coming.
Also he could be the reason why Kinemon and the samurai-gang is on their quest.I like this theory, makes a lot of sense and would make 7th Warlord play big role in upcoming events.
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Samurai Pirate being banished from his country for.. well.. being a pirate for example or Samurai gotten banished for doing some nasty stuff and then being asked to help his country in exchange for pardon would make some sense, maybe?
Sounds good to me. I can't wait for Wano… we'll get Samurais, pirates, and most likely ninjas.
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I like this theory, makes a lot of sense and would make 7th Warlord play big role in upcoming events.
Samurai Pirate being banished from his country for.. well.. being a pirate for example or Samurai gotten banished for doing some nasty stuff and then being asked to help his country in exchange for pardon would make some sense, maybe?Meh, nah. We have one swordsman already. Do not need another. It's goofy stuff if we do. It would take away from the story not add to it. Some kind of devil fruit makes more sense, especially since Z hates devil fruits. That's a big factor in this thing ya know.
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Sounds good to me. I can't wait for Wano… we'll get Samurais, pirates, and most likely ninjas.
Oda builded up for me assasination stuff a bit with Bellamy and Law trying to assasinate somebody far stronger than them.
Bellamy had intention to kill Luffy and failed even to try(later on he managed to land heavy attack on Luffy with his spring hopper - if he would use that for suprise attack along with knife, chances are that he would stab Luffy same as Law even while being weak ass brat managing to stab Corazon almost killing him.It is just as Diamante said - pretty easy job - compared to fighting somebody really strong head on. I expect situation where they try to take out Luffy with posion and failing to do so only because he is immune to it.
With Ninjas in Wano I expect Oda will explore them being super deadly while not being very strong. I would enjoy a lot some very weird Kunoichi with silly devil fruit power joining crew.
Meh, nah. We have one swordsman already. Do not need another. It's goofy stuff if we do. It would take away from the story not add to it. Some kind of devil fruit makes more sense, especially since Z hates devil fruits. That's a big factor in this thing ya know.
7th is said to be Devil Fruit user 100%. Still I dig idea of 7th being somebody like Manji from Blade of the Immortal - freaky ronin-like guy(I dont mean having same power as Manji of course).
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Meh, nah. We have one swordsman already. Do not need another. It's goofy stuff if we do. It would take away from the story not add to it. Some kind of devil fruit makes more sense, especially since Z hates devil fruits. That's a big factor in this thing ya know.
Why not both swordsman and fruit user?
With Ninjas in Wano I expect Oda will explore them being super deadly while not being very strong. I would enjoy a lot some very weird Kunoichi with silly devil fruit power joining crew.
Imagine Ibuki from Street Fighter with a tanuki zoan fruit