I'd say Trebol's weakness would be something akin to either Crocodile's or Kuzan's fruit–drying him out completely. But yes, I really don't think Trebol is mortally flammable. Seems like he's able to change the chemical properties of his "stickiness", choosing to have his mucus take the properties of flammable glue. Like how Caesar was able to change his gas' explosive reaction (remember when Usopp though he had a weakness?)
Chapter 780: "The Heart's Curse"
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is there any possibility that laws heart is somewhere else? I mean, without his cutted-out heart, he can't die! :ninja:
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Lawis gonna make Luffy immortal…..
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I have wondered if there is some clue at the beginning of this chapter, as if there was some tactical reason why Law took on both Trebol and Doflamingo at once.
is there any possibility that laws heart ist somewhere else? I mean without his cutted-out heart, he can't die! :ninja:
That's sort of a possibility. Would fly in the face of medical science, but with a fruit as bizarre as Law's, I could accept almost anything.
The thing right now is if Law did do any trickery, it would have had to be something that didn't involve using "room" since that would be pretty darn conspicuous. And I would like to think if he pulled such monkey business before he got his ass handed to him, that either Trebol or Doflamingo would be wise to it by now.
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wait, isn't gear second by definition a systemic thing? he can't increase blood pressure only on one arm… and even if he tried to it would be useless since blood has to pass in the system again to get oxygen and be of any use again
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Still, with all that blood loss a beating heart would be pretty useless, right?
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@Mr.:
Yeah, that cannot happen for obvious reasons. Hell, Luffy wouldn't allow it.
If he did use it, I'd say he'd use it one the Rikus. Imagine the irony of granting immortality to devout pacifists?
It's would be like making Goku immortal…
BTW Robby seriously now I can see DBZ abridged version for Luffy...
"I'm insane… From East Blue
I am the hope of the omniverse! I am the lightbulb in the darkness! I am the bacon in the fridge for all living things that cry out in hunger! I am the Alpha and the Amiga! I am the terror that flaps in the night! I am Luffy and I am a Super..." -
law is not a vampire… People can still die even if their heart is not pierced
@Portgas-D-Ace:
Still, with all that blood loss a beating heart would be pretty useless, right?
Yeah, thats right. But it would be a good explaination how he will survive. He still will have enough blood and endure even that fatal shots of doflamingo to finally get a healing tear drop of manshelly :)
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@Portgas-D-Ace:
Still, with all that blood loss a beating heart would be pretty useless, right?
There´s LittleCherry and her healing powers, he won´t die but also won´t be healed just right next chap, he´s probably gonna be lying in there until everything is over or just in time to give Doula another speech with some sort of fatality hit with it,
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"And the name of your crew the Heart Pirates"
god I'm so slow why'd I just barely get that
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Consider taking your own advice maybe?
I explained already what I meant in my reply to Dark Ritual - about gear second being used most likely ONLY on Luffys arms and not old style Gear Second on whole body that given Luffy enormous boost before timeskip.
http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=42559&page=3&p=3432579&viewfull=1#post3432579
Also expecting Luffy to beat both Trebol and Doflamingo after what Doflamingo said to Law in this chapter, Luffy clearly wanting to have one on one with Doflamingo and Trebol being hinted as stronger than other 2 seats.. LoL.
wat? he did use gear second. look at the smoke around his hands. when did luffy ever use full body gear secend after the time skip? he trained to focus it on one part of his body during the time skip so it's not new that he stopped going full body mode.
and how did my post even imply that i'm expecting Luffy to beat both Trebol and Doflamingo?
if anything it implies the complete opposite. -
Might go more in depth about the chapter later.
So even with the conclusion Law will be okay, it was a pretty damn good chapter. Doflamingo being pissed about him using the heart sign for his crew and Corazon was nice. Law giving the middle finger after his speech was quite good as well. The fighting part was overall quite nice, seeing Luffy find a way around the spiderweb, and getting an idea about Doflamingos strength and speed. Enough stuff to get us hyped for the battle.
So while it was predictable in some ways, predictable does not equal bad. I loved it, and it was worth the wait.
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@Mr.:
I hazard to guess that the answer to the majority of this was "The Will of D." But that's not much of an answer, is it?
For the specifics, no.
Law's attitude seems to have changed to almost hero worship. But him being a vengeance-driven schemer you wonder how much is misdirection & just trying to provoke Dofla. Law is also a D but he doesn't raise this point.
As with Vergo, Law's main stratgy seems to be get Dofla angry enough to make mistakes. -
True, he won't die. Though I do appreciate Oda's effort to make us believe that he will give up his own life for Luffy's benefit.
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Shrugs Honestly, I'm so "Meh" about this chapter that I don't even have the motivation to be negative. The art is just okay, and the main focus of the chapter is ruined because I can't find any tension in the supposed death of Law.
It isn't even a full length chapter.
Two weeks, for that.
I expected nothing and somehow I'm still let down
Will you mind directing me to a chapter you think is awesome?
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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If law die he will give inmortality to mansherry so she can heal forever.
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Tho I have come to dislike Oda's habit of showing the conclusion of a scene and then flashbacking immediately to five minutes ago. It's something he's been doing since at least Fishman Island in order to get cliffhangers on the chapter breaks, or wedge in details that should have been shown earlier, rather than just playing the narrative forward like he used to. Not a fan of that.
Same here. The content of the chapter felt great and I especially enjoyed the interaction between Law and Dobla Mango, but my pleasure is dulled by this cheap plot-trick. You read 15 pages' worth of action, yet it feels like the story doesn't progress an inch beyond the end of the previous chapter - Oh wait, that's because it didn't :getlost:. We don't even know if Law is or isn't dead.
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Like many people i believe Law could indeed survive because of Mansherry, but at the same time that's exactly what happened with Ace since people said how "Ivankov would have healed him just like he did with Luffy!!". So maybe this will be just like that? And Mansherry will just heal some other gladiators and dudes but not Law.
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wat? he did use gear second. look at the smoke around his hands. when did luffy ever use full body gear secend after the time skip?
and how did my post even imply that i'm expecting Luffy to beat both Trebol and Doflamingo?
if anything it implies the complete opposite."If Luffy is going to defeat both Dofa and Terbol by himself, i will lose some of my respect for this manga." - your words- even considering it happening implies you think its possible.
As for gear second usage - read my posts at least once more, you seem to not understand me.
And Luffy most likely used fullbody gear second once till now if I am not mistaken. Against Smoker in Tashigis body. Still he used it for such short time that steam didnt even started to come out of Luffys body, it only shows that its taking less from Luffy to use it now but he also avoids using it on whole body, only using it on arms and legs. -
Sabo will show up and team with Luffy for amazing fire/rubber beat down of Doflamingo and Trebol. It just makes the most sense for him to help Luffy.
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i dont believe that law is dead
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And who´ll take care of the one(or the people) who scared Koala then??
Ehhh, we all laughed at it for the whole arc, with dumb theories and all, but now its his time to shine:
! King Riku reveals to have the Peace Peace no Mi and annoys the shit out of whoever is there, making him pray to stop with the peace speeches and ultimately becomes a good guy.
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Lol law will use the immortality spell on luffy xD doffy sry you've f up ^^
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Shrugs Honestly, I'm so "Meh" about this chapter that I don't even have the motivation to be negative. The art is just okay, and the main focus of the chapter is ruined because I can't find any tension in the supposed death of Law.
It isn't even a full length chapter.
Two weeks, for that.
I expected nothing and somehow I'm still let down
Feel free to not respond, since I know last thread you got constant replies and it was probably hell for you, so I understand that you probably don't what things to get heated up again.
I do agree that the part about Law being dead is pointless, but seems like that aspect isn't played up that much in the chapter. Law's speech was more about Luffy, and show that he isn't phased about death, showed by him giving Doflamingo an impossible task and one he would never do. He does the "final" blow right before Luffy comes out. Then we get most of the rest getting an idea about Doflamingos strength and speed, and Luffy getting angry at the end, who doesn't quite seemed convinced of his death. Last part is for a flashback that will start at the beginning of next chapter, probably about hoe best to take on Doflamingo.
If you look at the chapter that way, why there are some lows, it is pretty good overall. Law won't be beating Doflamingo, but he was able to get his words in edgewise, and it showed another side of Law. We get a pretty good idea how strong Doflamingo is, and got to see Luffy maneuver around Doflamingos defense. Laws death isn't a huge factor, as we didn't have a huge panel, or pages dedicated to it, just one part of Doflamingo saying he's ending the curse, and Luffy talking to Law before Doflamingo comes in, not convinced Luffy will bring any miracles.
Now it's not exactly your fault for having that perspective. We had a two week break with the Cliffhanger of Laws death, so most would go in with that mindset. I went in with the mindset of Law/Luffy wasn't going to be focused on, so when it started the chapter with Law, I had a clear mind to see how it would go.
Like many people i believe Law could indeed survive because of Mansherry, but at the same time that's exactly what happened with Ace since people said how "Ivankov would have healed him just like he did with Luffy!!". So maybe this will be just like that? And Mansherry will just heal some other gladiators and dudes but not Law.
One used hormones which requires the person to be alive, the other one has a power that isn't completely explained, and there can be other factors in Law not dying either.
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how many bullets can actually kill law? sigh..
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What the FUUUUUUUU i need the next chapter. will law use his surgery? if he doesn't, he cant die! what will his crew do, become strawhats?
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If law die he will give inmortality to mansherry so she can heal forever.
jut thinking that she can use her Ultimate Restore to bring him back and because she's now immortal does't die herself!
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Oh well, Cabbage is gonna take care of himself then.
I don´t really see Sabo fighting at all, he´s blonde Ace and the other Ace always kept himself away from the conflict in Arabasta. already had his reunion with Luffy, his fight with the marines and all he´s got to do is burn a line of ships to fulfill his role in Dressrosa.
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"If Luffy is going to defeat both Dofa and Terbol by himself, i will lose some of my respect for this manga." - your words- even considering it happening implies you think its possible.
i don't feel as i should be teaching you english but here read about it, it's called a conditional sentence.As for gear second usage - read my posts at least once more, you seem to not understand me.
And Luffy most likely used fullbody gear second once till now if I am not mistaken. Against Smoker in Tashigis body. Still he used it for such short time that steam didnt even started to come out of Luffys body, it only shows that its taking less from Luffy to use it now but he also avoids using it on whole body, only using it on arms and legs.stop pulling excuses out of your ass. luffy stopped using full body gear 2nd after the time skip because he trained to focus it in one body part.
"And Luffy most likely used fullbody gear second"<- this is purely your wrong speculation that you shouldn't be using to counter what i said. -
Like many people i believe Law could indeed survive because of Mansherry, but at the same time that's exactly what happened with Ace since people said how "Ivankov would have healed him just like he did with Luffy!!". So maybe this will be just like that? And Mansherry will just heal some other gladiators and dudes but not Law.
There's a huge difference between the level of healing ability we're talking here though.
Ivankov can manipulate hormones in incredibly useful ways, but it was made clear quite early on that there's a pretty solid barrier on the injuries that his powers could help with.
Mansherry on the other hand, not only has a generic healing ability, but also an even more powerful version that seems to have no limit other than how much life she has to sacrifice.
Also, we saw Ivankov's powers in use well before we got to the point where Ace was mortally wounded.
Mansherry's ability seems to have been foreshadowed purely for the very purpose of reviving Law later on.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Like many people i believe Law could indeed survive because of Mansherry, but at the same time that's exactly what happened with Ace since people said how "Ivankov would have healed him just like he did with Luffy!!". So maybe this will be just like that? And Mansherry will just heal some other gladiators and dudes but not Law.
You know, I have thought about this–that the existence of Mansherry is red herring to lull the readers into a false sense of security until it turns out Mansherry was unable to make it in time. Now I know that the chances of that happening a very, very slight but still interesting to think about.
And he did pull something like that in Marineford where the heroic rescue of Ace lulled one into a false sense of security until he was ultimately fatally wounded in an instant only a few chapters later.
But the amounts of times characters were were left on death's door only to almost miraculously pull through really keeps me from sincerely believing that. Or rather that lightning will strike twice.
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Ok chapter I guess. So, the final countdown has started. There is honestly not much tension considering how much time this has been done in others arcs.
"Oh no! Is Law dead!? he's mortally injured" thing is getting really tiresome. Oda has been using that since chapter 730. Even though Law look like dying, he's not going to die when he should be with all the injury. Damn you Manshelly for being a convenient plot device.
Doffy "I want to kill Law but he's always end up barely alive after each attempt. He's unconscious? Well, I'll wait for him to wake up instead of putting a bullet through his head. BUT I also want him to live so he can grant me immortality even though he clearly hate me and won't do it." is also quite annoying. Seriously, he could have just placed a basket of fruits next to Law and murdered him. Problem solved.
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Doffla's technique looked to me kinda like Gaara's sand attacking :D
Sorry, can't find better comparison pick:
I thought that Law's still alive at the end and he's trying to say something to Luffy… but maybe it's really a flashback of Law saying something about Doffla's secret/weakness or something like that...
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When will Doflamingo learn that only headshots are lethal.
Though it is interesting to note that it took only one bullet to kill Scarlet. Either Doflamingo is a bad shot or Law is the luckiest man alive. Too bad for Doflamingo that Diamante isn't around to take a potshot. He's clearly the deadeye in the family.
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I cant believe Doflamingo would think that Law would willingly operate him after all he has done to him.
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More than Bellemere, less than Zoro.
Hoestly, Doffy should treat Law as he would a zombie. He needs to destroy the brain. :ninja:
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does luffy uses gear 2nd here?
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He thinks that by rubbing salt to his wounds he would kill that particular zombie.
