With his super awesome time skip look where has axes for legs, arms, and eyes.
Oh man this got me good! LOL
With his super awesome time skip look where has axes for legs, arms, and eyes.
Oh man this got me good! LOL
I think the original crew is pretty good (Lafitte, Burgess, Doc Q and Van Augur) but i don't see anything in the prisonners of level 6.
Nothing appealing to me, I know we didn't see that much about them but the first impression isn't good at all. They look like generic fodders
I think the original crew is pretty good (Lafitte, Burgess, Doc Q and Van Augur) but i don't see anything in the prisonners of level 6.
Nothing appealing to me, I know we didn't see that much about them but the first impression isn't good at all. They look like generic fodders
You know, the shitty female fangirls at least don't usually invade actual threads with their yaoi pairings.
But the shitty male fanboys, aye, they seem to think we give a shit about their fodder talk.
You're the shitty male fanboy if you think level 6 prisonners are appealing just because they are with BB, lol.
You're the shitty male fanboy if you think level 6 prisonners are appealing just because they are with BB, lol.
I generally have an instantly negative perception of anyone who describes characters that were clearly meant to be seen as extremely strong as fodder. (or characters that aren't actually fodder period. the word has an actual meaning, and you guys have done your best to decimate it)
Yeah Burgess might have lost the Mera Mera, but he was up against magnificent Sabo who obviously had to be portrayed as a flawless badass on his first appearance… and Burgess didn't even lose, Sabo just took advantage of the confusion to get the fruit. Even if admittedly it wasn't the wisest choice on Oda's part I believe, since Burgess was supposed to get hype too, it was the first appearance of the BB crew after the timeskip. But then again, until the story arc is finished is too early to judge.
I do have to wonder exactly what Burgess is doing at the moment, since we haven't seen a lick of him ever since the Bird Cage first started up. I would've thought that he'd spring on the opportunity to snag the star bounties and prove his worth as a "Champion", but we haven't seen him doing any of that kind of stuff yet, so he has to be doing something else. It really wouldn't be like Burgess to just wait until everything tides over, unless he's doing so in order to sneak in at the last second and take something that he otherwise would have to put more effort into getting. So basically, we have to wait and see.
You're the shitty male fanboy if you think level 6 prisonners are appealing just because they are with BB, lol.
I tend to wait for characters to actually get real screen time before deciding their boring.
But I'm sure you'll fall in love with them when you can start imagining how exactly they punch people.
I'm not going to judge the Blackbeard Pirates sans Blackbeard until they actually get some proper screentime. Otherwise you're basically working with nothing but first impressions, which almost never end up holding up to the exact degree later on. For example, we know literally nothing about the new Level 6 members of his crew, aside from the fact that they're really strong, so why even bother debating whether or not they're good when they've only gotten so much screentime? I think they definitely need to get some eventually if we're to find them as threatening/interesting as the other Blackbeard Pirates whom were with BB from the get-go, but at the moment it's hard to form any kind of plausible judgement.
I'm mostly curious if they still have a giant raft as a main ship :)
I'd wish we'd get a dossier of the crimes of the lvl6ers, or at least what blue they came from so we can at least imagine what character has ties to them.
We only know enough to imagine something (combat wise) out of Shiryu, Laffite, Burgess and Van Auger. And of those, hints of backstory only of Shiryu and Laffite. Of the rest we know weapon, and small hints of character.
It's frustrating, I'd wish that at least jesus was featured as a character more in this arc.
Question: What people find appealing about Blackbeard's crew? Other then their association with Blackbeard?
They've been rather disappointing to me (though, perhaps, my expectations were too high).
Why are they disappointing? Because one of them was not able to beat the 2nd-in-Command of the Revolutionaries?
Guess the Straw Hats are disappointing because Usopp couldn't beat Trèbol.
Why are they disappointing? Because one of them was not able to beat the 2nd-in-Command of the Revolutionaries?
Please do not insinuate that Sabo is strong in front of Darth; it makes him froth at the mouth.
Dunno, Auger seems pretty nazi-esque to me. Immaculate and proper dude, with a monocle who kills for fun.
But man Doc Q has to be my favorite of the lot. That barely clinging to life spectre of a man being dragged around by his equally feeble horse, just goofing around and playing games of russian apple roulette with people. And you just know he'll probably have a really physical fighting style, just to contrast his general state of being.
People who say they are uninterested in Doc Q clearly forgot the scene that introduced him.
It would be baller as fuck if Doc Q vs. Chopper was Chopper getting poisoned by the apples and trying to make a cure while simultaneously fighting Doc.
And you just know he'll probably have a really physical fighting style, just to contrast his general state of being.
Well he's been shown using a double scythe.
this character who showed up giving out a mixed bag of normal and explosive apples at random just to see who would or wouldn't explode is boring
i want more frowning muscle men
That's the spirit!
CAPTAIN MORGAN TO THE RESCUE!!
Unfortunately he's smiling so he's doing a bad job here.
What's the general opinion on Stronger? Capabilities wise, I want to see that thing get roided up and go psycho
marines vs SHs:
Luffy vs akainu
Sanji vs Kizaru(for best leg fighter in the world)
Zoro vs fujitora( even build their relation from dressrosa)
Franky vs Kuma
rest of the SHs vs some vice admirals
Jimbei- either greenbull or I'm not sure at all about him
okay that's just trolling or little kid thinking
At the final, Blackbeard and Sakazuki decide Monkey D. is too strong and they need to unite their efforts. They do a fusion and turn into Lavabeard. Coward fascist that kills comrades.
Done, everyone is happy.
Take that to the Dumb Predictions thread where it belongs.
The extra pain doesn't even seem to hinder him that much, since he took a quake from WB to the face and was still alive/conscious.
Teach is a goddamn tank.
I just wish we won't see him pussying out after taking a red hawk to the stomach, like he did when facing Whitebeard. That was kind of lame.
I can understand the reasoning behind a lot of these but who would ever vote for Dragon without being a troll?
Or are they thinking that Luffy'll blame him for his life because Dragon left him to the "care" of Garp and all he ever actually wanted in stead of being pirate king was being with his father, thus resulting in them fighting and this also being the final fight even though it has nothing to do with Poneglyphs, One Piece or anything trivial like that?
This could happen in Naruto though… (and probably has)
I too find Blackbeard's crying out from receiving extra pain to be annoying. It makes it hard to take him seriously since it shows he's not a stoic and unfeeling badass. If I could write One Piece, Blackbeard would be more like this:
Blackbeard is set on fire
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh wound
Blackbeard is drenched in poison
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh wound
Blackbeard is nearly cleaved by Whitebeard's bisento, then takes a quake punch to the face
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh wound
I too find Blackbeard's crying out from receiving extra pain to be annoying. It makes it hard to take him seriously since it shows he's not a stoic and unfeeling badass. If I could write One Piece, Blackbeard would be more like this:
Blackbeard is set on fire
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh woundBlackbeard is drenched in poison
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh woundBlackbeard is nearly cleaved by Whitebeard's bisento, then takes a quake punch to the face
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh wound
There's a certain underling saving marine that had a campaign that reminds me of this…
Or are they thinking that Luffy'll blame him for his life because Dragon left him to the "care" of Garp and all he ever actually wanted in stead of being pirate king was being with his father, thus resulting in them fighting and this also being the final fight even though it has nothing to do with Poneglyphs, One Piece or anything trivial like that?
This could happen in Naruto though… (and probably has)
That'd be fucking retarded, I hope no one believes this will happen. As I see things, Luffy would probably be cool with his father especially since Sabo's with him. I can imagine that he wouldn't really care about him otherwise, since he didn't even know he had a father until Garp told him in Water Seven.
I'd really like Luffy to understand what Dragon does when they'll meet, though. I appreciate Luffy's simple mind but I dislike his being a complete retard at times. I don't want Luffy to completely change and basically become another character, but I'd like him to mature a lot by the end of the series since he's gonna learn everything about the D. (double meaning ? Will he have a kid with Hancock ? :ninja:), the ancient kingdom, etc., and probably ally with Dragon to defeat the World Government and change the whole system. I don't want him to do that simply "because they're bad guys".
I too find Blackbeard's crying out from receiving extra pain to be annoying. It makes it hard to take him seriously since it shows he's not a stoic and unfeeling badass.
Well, I don't mind his crying out from pain, it's natural if it's really unbearable because of his fruit, but I really didn't like his cowardice against Whitebeard, asking him to spare him and saying "I'm your son". I'm okay if he hits people in the back, that contributes to making him a good and realistic villain, but I really want him to commit to the fights he chooses. Whitebeard was a damn beast, though, and that was probably the last time he'd ever ask for mercy, hopefully.
Well, I don't mind his crying out from pain, it's natural if it's really unbearable because of his fruit, but I really didn't like his cowardice against Whitebeard, asking him to spare him and saying "I'm your son". I'm okay if he hits people in the back, that contributes to making him a good and realistic villain, but I really want him to commit to the fights he chooses. Whitebeard was a damn beast, though, and that was probably the last time he'd ever ask for mercy, hopefully.
Dude, no :) That was great! It shows Blackbeard doesn't care about pride, and does everything to live/survive. Begging for his live (while being a D) makes him interesting too.
I too find Blackbeard's crying out from receiving extra pain to be annoying. It makes it hard to take him seriously since it shows he's not a stoic and unfeeling badass. If I could write One Piece, Blackbeard would be more like this:
Blackbeard is set on fire
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh woundBlackbeard is drenched in poison
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh woundBlackbeard is nearly cleaved by Whitebeard's bisento, then takes a quake punch to the face
Blackbeard (speaking in monotone): It's just a flesh wound
I don't mind his whining. He'd had the df only a relatively short time and it gives his character a lot of room to grow.
By the time he has a final face off with Luffy their dialogue is more likely to resemble your version or that between Kizaru and Marco at Marineford.
I must say one thing about the final villain in One Piece: its not Akainu. Thankfully, 95 percent of the members here agree.
You could always start a poll to find out.
I must say one thing about the final villain in One Piece: its not Akainu. Thankfully, 95 percent of the members here agree.
Well, Blackbeard will be THE final villain in the search for the One Piece but I can still see Luffy fighting Akainu afterwards, depending on when Luffy will destroy the World Government with his daddy : before or after becoming the Pirate King. Surely becoming Pirate King won't be Luffy's last great deed. Discovering everything about Roger and what he knew will give Luffy a new mission. There could be two final villains, after all.
What if Usopp became a brave warrior of the sea by fighting against Akainu and died that way, for exemple ? Luffy would be pretty fucking pissed. And me too :sad:
That's just an exemple, of course, Luffy doesn't need to be mad at Akainu (he already is for Ace's death, anyway) in order to fight him during the last arc.
That'd make Akainu the final villain IN One Piece while Blackbeard would be the final villain FOR/TO One Piece (yeah, that's an awkward phrasing)
Akainu's defeat would be double if he were to be destroyed by Luffy after he becomes the Pirate King. Or even triple. He'd have failed to stop Luffy, he'd have been forcefully made to respect him like he did Roger (cf his speech to Ace about Whitebeard being a piece of shit) and the Revolutionaries would have their way.
Seriously, I really want to hear Akainu yelling "Kaizoku Ou" instead of "Mugiwara" while attacking him in the anime
Also Dragon calling his son like that.
I just wish we won't see him pussying out after taking a red hawk to the stomach, like he did when facing Whitebeard. That was kind of lame.
You do relieve that was an underhanded trick, a.k.a. a front so that he could get Whitebeard to hesitate while the rest of his crew filled him full of lead, right?
You do relieve that was an underhanded trick, a.k.a. a front so that he could get Whitebeard to hesitate while the rest of his crew filled him full of lead, right?
Yeah, sure, but that couldn't possibly work, that's why I found it really lame.
Yeah, sure, but that couldn't possibly work, that's why I found it really lame.
But it did .
But it did .
Whitebeard still attacked him.
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-47876-8/one-piece/chapter-576.html
He was just being a lame pussy. But hey, as someone said, he still has room to grow, and I said earlier that that was probably the last time he would do that.
I must say one thing about the final villain in One Piece: its not Akainu. Thankfully, 95 percent of the members here agree.
But you know, the fact that we can say who it is with 100% accuracy this early on isn't really good either. A little bit of a suprise would've been nice as well.
Well, Blackbeard will be THE final villain in the search for the One Piece but I can still see Luffy fighting Akainu afterwards, depending on when Luffy will destroy the World Government with his daddy. Surely becoming Pirate King won't be Luffy's last great deed. Also Dragon calling his son like that.
No, Akainu is not going to be the final villain. Its simply won't happen.@Darth:
But you know, the fact that we can say who it is with 100% accuracy this early on isn't really good either. A little bit of a suprise would've been nice as well.
95 percent isn't just Blackbeard, but the Gorosei and the other category. All I was saying was that Akainu is, more likely than not, not the final villain, and the forum agrees.
No, Akainu is not going to be the final villain. Its simply won't happen.
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95 percent isn't just Blackbeard, but the Gorosei and the other category. All I was saying was that Akainu is, more likely than not, not the final villain, and the forum agrees.
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95 percent isn't just Blackbeard, but the Gorosei and the other category. All I was saying was that Akainu is, more likely than not, not the final villain, and the forum agrees.
Have you read the beginning of my post ? To me, even if Akainu was defeated after Blackbeard, Blackbeard would still be "the final villain". And yeah, I think the Gorosei will probably be involved as well. At least guys like Kong and the CP0.
Who knows, maybe Aokiji will be the one taking down Akainu if he's joined Dragon. That'd be nice as well. But it certainly isn't impossible that Akainu would be defeated by Luffy after Blackbeard.
Have you read the beginning of my post ? To me, even if Akainu was defeated after Blackbeard, Blackbeard would still be "the final villain".
Yes I understood. But under no circumstance will Akainu be defeated after Blackbeard. It just isn't happening.
Yes I understood. But under no circumstance will Akainu be defeated after Blackbeard. It just isn't happening.
I see, sorry, Oda-sensei. :getlost:
No, Akainu is not going to be the final villain. Its simply won't happen. 95 percent isn't just Blackbeard, but the Gorosei and the other category. All I was saying was that Akainu is, more likely than not, not the final villain, and the forum agrees.
… You are putting way too much faith in the internet polls, man.
I ask you: If I were to tell you around Alabasta that the first character to die in the series current timeline would be Ace, and that he would be killed by a Marine, would you bought it?
But you know, the fact that we can say who it is with 100% accuracy this early on isn't really good either. A little bit of a suprise would've been nice as well.
The final villain is meant to be obvious for most of a series. With "surprises", you get instances like Kaguya showing up in Naruto.
@Galaxy:
The final villain is meant to be obvious for most of a series. With "surprises", you get instances like Kaguya showing up in Naruto.
Sure, but why would the final villain absolutely be the very latest defeated opponent ?
If Luffy was to KO Buggy with one punch after he defeats Blackbeard, wouldn't Blackbeard still be the final villain ?
Nuance and originality can be good sometimes, and I think there could be big fights after Luffy beats Blackbeard and becomes the Pirate King. Or maybe not, sure, that can happen.
I just think that we can't know for sure so far. There's the quest for the One Piece on one hand, and then there are other plots like All Blue, the ancient weapons, the World Government, etc.
Maybe everything will reach a conclusion within the span of 10 chapters, but that's not a certainty yet.
Sure, but why would the final villain absolutely be the very latest defeated opponent ?
If Luffy was to KO Buggy with one punch after he defeats Blackbeard, wouldn't Blackbeard still be the final villain ?
Nuance and originality can be good sometimes, and I think there could be big fights after Luffy beats Blackbeard and becomes the Pirate King. Or maybe not, sure, that can happen.
I just think that we can't know for sure so far. There's the quest for the One Piece on one hand, and then there are other plots like All Blue, the ancient weapons, the World Government, etc.
Maybe everything will reach a conclusion within the span of 10 chapters, but that's not a certainty yet.
Because it's called final for a reason ?
@Galaxy:
The final villain is meant to be obvious for most of a series. With "surprises", you get instances like Kaguya showing up in Naruto.
No, because Kaguya was a complete asspull.
You can foreshadow more then one final enemy, to keep people guessing, you know? It shouldn't be that the end is hundred chapters away and we can end any discussion on the matter with "It's Blackbeard".
@Doffy.:
Because it's called final for a reason ?
I think I explained how there could be an exception. I want Luffy to act as the Pirate King and overthrowing the World Government would be a good thing. I'm not saying it will definitely happen, I voted for Blackbeard as the final villain and I'd still consider him to be the final villain if what I "theorized" happened.
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If you are going to get into it, I advise tabletop RPG's or PC games over miniatures wargame. They are awesome, but pain in the ass.
Also, there are books. Lot's of them, in fact. And the universe is very entertaining, if dark as all hell.
No !! Oda is good at foreshadowing so my prediction can't even be slightly wrong or nuanced ! :ninja:
No, because Kaguya was a complete asspull.
You can foreshadow more then one final enemy, to keep people guessing, you know? It shouldn't be that the end is hundred chapters away and we can end any discussion on the matter with "It's Blackbeard".
How much confirmation do you need ? Like him being build up more than any other villain on top of being the evil version of the main character isn't enough to convenience people that he is in fact going to be the final villain ? It seems like you are in denial that someone generic like Akainu is not going to be the final villain .
@Doffy.:
How much confirmation do you need ? Like him being build up more than any other villain on top of being the evil version of the main character isn't enough to convenience people that he is in fact going to be the final villain ?
… I've never questioned that he will be. I'm disappointed in how predictable it is, that's all.
Altough I still stand by my prediction of there being more then one side in the final conflict.