Because if theirs one thing that we have never, ever, seen in a One Piece comic, its Looney Tune-esque slap stick.
During comedic moments in the series, not mediocre storytelling asspulls from the author. I got Fairy Tail vibes looking at the last panel in terms of how the story went in that convenient and clusterfuck of a direction.
@Mr.:
Well you said "sick and frail", which the Brownbeard pirates definitely were until CC took care of the gas and Law cured their inability to walk with his god-like fruit ability and turned them into centaur-like freaks. But if you really want to be technical about the whole dying in bed aspect I guess there's no getting around that
There was also that crazy old priest at the beginning of the Norland flashback that died in bed from a disease spreading throughout the island right after demanding to offer Kalgara's sister as a sacrifice, but I'm sure there's some technical reason why he "doesn't count"
Heck, you could even say Luffy was after being dehydrated by Crocodile. I mean, how wasn't he weak an frail before gettiong rehydrated? He was literally a mummy lying helplessly! Though I guess that's battle-related and ergo doesn't count as the the Megellen poisoning, eh?
Hey, the only reason that doesn't count is because I forgot about it! lol, I don't remember everything that happened in the series. My point was that Oda mostly depicts women as being weak. There's no denying that. The fact that I remembered all the women that were weak and sick and barely remember the guys that were is evident of that.
〝Kyros: You don't know how much I love you because I don't even live in your memories.〞
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His df indeed relied on his strength, strongest man in the world and all. You were using a bad example. I understand what you were trying to say about Law, but like how somebody else said the reason he took those bullets is because he's a guy.
I don't remember seeing a shirtless pic, but even the wimpiest fodder has abs in OP, so I don't really take that as a measure of physical toughness. That, and WB's ability was still very physical in nature. Slamming, cracking and twisting the air with immense force to create quakes does seem like an ability that requires a great deal of physical prowess. Creating a time-space bubble and manipulating everything within through hand gestures and sword slashes doesn't.
If you watch the anime, you saw that recent filler where Luffy and Law got in a fist fight. A lot of people thought it was silly precisely because Law has never been portrayed as physically formidable, while Luffy has on numerous occasions even without using his DF.
Doesn't change the fact that it's still an assumption.
We also saw Law trading blows with Smoker several times.
I was disappointed with sugars defeat at first but then I really thought about it. I want to point out something that i think is quite clever of Oda. There was an enormous emphasis placed on the Tatabasco ball and it was key to the entire SOP operation. When Sugar first puts it in Usopp's mouth the dwarves and the reader are led to believe that the tatabasco strategy is ruined. Next page: Usopp's painful animated reaction. The Tatabasco ball comes full circle and ends up causing Sugar to faint, just not in the way we all had thought. No one could have predicted something like this and unpredictability is one of the mangas selling points. The seriousness of Usopp's position and the emotions brought forth by the flashback scene actually adds to the humour of the entire situation. Oda got all of us hyped up with Usopp's speech and the info of Trebol being flammable. We formed our theories for two weeks and then, bam! He throws us a curveball that is undeniably hilarious. This hilarious act will be the opening of the flood gates of the Dressrosa arc.
Trebol is exactly why Usopp had a chance at taking her out. The guy already almost accidentally KO'd her when he smashed that ship into the tower. Plus, Trebol's power is making things stick and Usopp is a sniper. You don't have to be George R.R. Martin to see where a writer of Oda's caliber could have taken this.
If he had taken Sugar out, then been wrecked by Trebol immediately after, that would have been much more satisfying.
He came no where near accidentally KO-ing her, or hurting her in anyway, he's never shown any sign of careless to a direct order from DD. he's not some dumb slimeball that would hurt who's he's bodyguarding taking out her attackers, thinking such is an insult to Trebol and DD, Trebol is smart, acts quickly the best way HE sees fit in a given situation, yes he's reckless about property damage(so is luffy), but great care was/is taken as far as Sugar is concerned.
I think there is indeed a little mistake by Oda: www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/721/9
Doesn't it contradict the whole meeting at the red flower field thing?
At the bottom right panel we can see this scene from Kyros point of view.http://i997.mangapanda.com/one-piece/742/one-piece-4861555.jpg
I know disagreeing with Oda is considered blasphameous to most people, bu 'm just really disappointed Oda chose the gag route to take down Sugar. He could have literally done the exact same chapter, but when Sugar put the grape in Ussops mouth he could have spit it back into her mouth and she swallows it. That was he gets a victory not based on his strength, but still manly as chest hair. This just seems like all of that build up Ussops been getting this are is very pointless.
The Marineforc arc. seemed like a turning point, as if the series was ready to mature, but now he's so hesitant, it's starting to walk backwards.
In other words, having the series go DBZ where semi-serious and more frequently goofy situations from Dragonball are suddenly serious 90% of the time and there are hardly and gag battles? I dunno, Marineford still has the Buggy antics and the Hancock gags. But that was one of the VERY few arcs that had no gag fights, because every arc before or since had at least a few between the "serious" fights, even the weighty arcs like Arlong and Enies Lobby. Skypiea was almost entirely gag fighting as was Drum island and they both sported some of the most serious flashbacks in the series' history. And what was the Davy Back fight if not just a mini-arc designed to pile on gags (save Aokiji)? In fact, I think Marineford might be the only one barring Buggy vs Mihawk and Hancock vs Smoker.
I guess it all depends on what you want out of the series. I had always considered this manga to be half gag half straight and the gag element is really what got me hooked into the series. I always thought the two elements balanced each other out–if it was too gag-based it would have worn thin eventually, too serious and I just wouldn't care because most of the drama is pretty corny (though good corn) and more "hardcore" shounens are a dime a dozen. However, the two halves play off great with the serious aspects, setting a real boffo and potentially subversive joke or gag blindside the reader when the least suspect it, and the serious aspect also allows a method to the madness, something the ground the series to the point where we can actually care about their life & death situations that is. The series could very easily have been a parody of the genre if Oda chose to do it but thankfully he didn't take that easy route.
Oda has an absolutely wicked sense of humor and really loves his outrageous gags, with a creativity in comical character designing and fantasy settings that hooked me since Water 7. I honestly cannot picture him turning this into a super serious fighting series, I imagine it would depress and bore him. Yet he does like his melodramatic set pieces so I can't see him going pure Three Stooges either (at least long-term).
Anyone familiar with the manga Kyou Kara Ore Wa? That one is very similar in style (though aiming for slightly older readers), flagrantly crossing the line between gritty real-life street drama and absolute insane gag-based comedy. I'd call it a more extreme example where "serious" fights can turn into an absolute farce at a complete whim. It even starts out similarly as virtually a gag series and deviates into more serious street grit believable dramatic scenarios.
This is purely opinion of course and I'm not trying to change your mind because I can respect an interest in the more serious side of the manga and can easily see why you or someone else prefer that over the gags.
The Marineforc arc. seemed like a turning point, as if the series was ready to mature, but now he's so hesitant, it's starting to walk backwards.
marineford arc was good in theory but pretty bad execution. The same with this arc. Oda still has alot of work to do trying to balance alot of characters together in a single arc. Especially when the battles happen.
Hopefully he will get the jist of it by the time of the final big battle.
I was disappointed with sugars defeat at first but then I really thought about it. I want to point out something that i think is quite clever of Oda. There was an enormous emphasis placed on the Tatabasco ball and it was key to the entire SOP operation. When Sugar first puts it in Usopp's mouth the dwarves and the reader are led to believe that the tatabasco strategy is ruined. Next page: Usopp's painful animated reaction. The Tatabasco ball comes full circle and ends up causing Sugar to faint, just not in the way we all had thought. No one could have predicted something like this and unpredictability is one of the mangas selling points. The seriousness of Usopp's position and the emotions brought forth by the flashback scene actually adds to the humour of the entire situation. Oda got all of us hyped up with Usopp's speech and the info of Trebol being flammable. We formed our theories for two weeks and then, bam! He throws us a curveball that is undeniably hilarious. This hilarious act will be the opening of the flood gates of the Dressrosa arc.
I think that is the main issue here. Things didn't go the way they predicted and they are all butt hurt. But if they take a step back and think critically, they will know it's a very interesting turn of events. Personally, I was impressed because I didn't see it coming. The manga will be boring if we all could predict Oda's next move.
I feel like he is underestimating his readers. And unsuccessfully mixing mature content with childish stuff. You either talk about blood, death and pain or you go the kid, pacifist way: "let's make her FAINT". His most avid readers have grown up with One Piece, but they seem to target new, young readers also. Well, if you target both audiences, very distinct demographics, you end up with a crappy result that will be fit for none.
You're confusing target with appeal.
One Piece always targetted an younger demographic, but it's still massively appealing to other demographics. That's why it's so successful.
How dare Usopp not completely solo two of Doflamingo's top lieutenants. For fuck's sake people, he's still the weakest on the team and as far as he knows the dwarves just dragged him into a fight with Trebol with no backup.
Usopp merely swallowed something spicy and has been beaten to a pulp off-screen. There's way more chance for redemption remember Enies Lobby after his fight with Jyabura? However as a writer there's many different ways to go about this scene without making a character's development and fanbase cringe
I think that is the main issue here. Things didn't go the way they predicted and they are all butt hurt. But if they take a step back and think critically, they will know it's a very interesting turn of events. Personally, I was impressed because I didn't see it coming. The manga will be boring if we all could predict Oda's next move.
This is why I don't make predictions about this series. I like to let Oda do his thing, let the series take its course. It's more exciting to see just what exactly is going to happen and find myself surprised. No wonder I see so many people bashing the series after every chapter or episode.
During comedic moments in the series, not mediocre storytelling asspulls from the author.
How is Ussop's face contorting in extreme pain an ass pull?
I got Fairy Tail vibes looking at the last panel in terms of how the story went in that convenient and clusterfuck of a direction.
If you don't know why Fairy Tail sucks than lay off the hyperbole.
seastone is impossible to cut
that's to automatically answer questions like "why didn't he cut the cuffs instead of his leg?"
Yeah, I know that as well as any decent fan of OP.
Wouldn't be so dumb to ask such a question. Maybe Kyros would have been able to smash or cut steel chains, but still, bringing in seastone seems like an overkill. Normally, you don't bring in seastone unless you expect to deal with devil fruit users.
I was thinking…what if dofla,once defeated,chased by the marines,by kaidou and by all dressrosa,just makes sugar turn him into a toy and vanishes for a bit,while the entire world has forgotten about him?that would be a could way to keep him in the story,just waiting for his return
does sugar too forgets about who the guy she just turned into a toy was?
Sounds a lot like Deathnote here. I like it.
What was the purpose of Robin getting turned into a toy again?
What was the purpose of Robin getting turned into a toy again?
Probably to give Usopp an excuse to run away
Probably to give Usopp an excuse to run away
Wrong. Robin turning into a toy does not have anything to do with Usopp and his resolve. The moment she became a toy, she was forgotten. So anything Usopp did after that is all on him.
I'm up all night to get lucky.
Yeesh such a polarizing chapter.
One one hand, glad Oda didn't draw out the flashback. Two chapters, we get a another side of the past story and adding even more tragedy to it. This ranks right up there with Robin's tale for saddest flashback. Not helped at all when we have to go back to the present and Diamante being all gleeful over it. Really hope someone messes him up good.
Speaking of which I really wanna see more of the coliseum fight, feels like were missing out on something there. I know Burgess was strong but damn. They may end up causing a cave in at the underground port at this rate and considering what's about to happen…let's just say something gotta give.
But on the other hand, the way Sugar is knocked out. Hmm well it's something unexpected that no one saw coming so kudos to Oda on that. And I do like that's it's not Ussop but ultimately Sugar, the main strife in all of this, is the one who wound up messing up everything because of a moment of cruelty. But it just such a stupid way of dealing with her and after Ussop goes through the trouble of coming to his conscience. It's negated by a moment of idiocy on the villain's part, he didn't really do much of anything.
I don't know, I won't majorly gripe on this. I doubt Sugar will stay down for too long (just enough to break the spell over the toys) and hopefully there will be a more even battle with her which Ussop will have more a role in. But for the time being, yeah that could've been handled better.
While that's true, that's not the main issue here. I mean, look at his fight with Perona. She was also a sadistic, cute and female villain who in the end wasn't really hurt at the end but still tested Usopp. It was still a challenge that Usopp overcame with his wits and his cleverness and was pretty satisfying for me.
Here, Usopp accomplishes absolutely NOTHING by himself with his abilities. I don't even mind that Sugar didn't get roughed up because that just pales in comparison to the fact that Usopp was completely useless in the entirety of operation SOP
Yeah exactly. His fight with Perona was awesome, he used his skills to fight her. Even though he also scarred her he could as well kill her during that time but chose not to. Here? He got off-paneled and didn't show any skills at all (other than those cutting leaves that we didn't even get the chance to see after match of) and enemy knocked herself up by accident using Ussopp, but it was no glory in what Ussopp done. The only thing he did was come there to fight, all rest was just what happened to him :/ Unless there's flashback and we at least see how he struggled or something…
I liked idea that Ussopp would eat that fruit on purpose by stretching his tongue. Still wouldn't change he got owned, but at least the win would be accounted to his quick thinking an that would be MUCH better.
I thought this chapter was pretty spectacular. The Kyros flashback was really tragic, and we got that incredible Usopp face in the final panel. Can't wait to see where things go from here now that shit has officially hit the fan.
What was the purpose of Robin getting turned into a toy again?
Well, from a storytelling standpoint, it helped set the stage for Usopp to have to confront his Usoland lie that he had been trying to hold together ever since the Tontatta tried to ransack them. When his memories of Robin vanished, thus making him think that he was all alone with no one else from his crew to rely on, he had an anxiety attack. It took the completely unrequited faith that the Tontatta had in him in order to make Usopp realize that his lie grew into something dangerous and that's why he went back to put a stop to it.
Why are there people who think Ussop will have Conqueror's Haki?
Oh yeah, I also want to remind everyone that one of Sanji's newest and most powerful finishing attacks is one that involves him remembering the time he spent in Newkama Kingdom, literally catching on fire due to anger, and then kicking his opponent so hard that they catch fire as well. If that isn't wacky slapstick (post-timeskip, might I add) then I don't know what is. I really don't understand how people can look at the ending of this chapter and think of it as something alien to One Piece or something that Oda is "too mature to do anymore" even though there was absolutley no evidence of that. Sometimes I feel like this fanbase is forever insatiable.
The only complaint about this chapter that I can at least understand, despite not completely agreeing with, is the way that Franky and Usopp's defeats were off panel. Yeah, it would've been nice to see exactly how they got their asses kicked despite it being pretty obvious that both were up against overwhelming odds, but at the same time, what the end of this chapter is setting up more than makes up for that if you ask me. We're finally going to be seeing the aftermath of toys turning back into people and the memories of Dressrosa flowing back to everyone. Things are about to go completely ballistic. If the chapter just ended by showing Franky and Usopp down for the count then I could maybe understand why more people would be disappointed, but the big catalyst has finally been completed. Next chapter is going to be extremely chaotic and I can't wait to see exactly where they take things from here.
What was the purpose of Robin getting turned into a toy again?
There was a purpose?
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Why are there people who think Ussop will have Conqueror's Haki?
Because everyone in the New World seems to have it, so isn't that rare anymore, let's give it to Usopp so that's gonna make the power even more normal than how it is now.
Guys I think that Buggy will get Conqueror's Haki and become an Emperor after Luffy defeats Kaido, it's totally going to happen
I just want to say that I actually liked the ending although it might have been better if we had seen more of Usopps fight.
Oh yeah, I also want to remind everyone that one of Sanji's newest and most powerful finishing attacks is one that involves him remembering the time he spent in Newkama Kingdom, literally catching on fire due to anger, and then kicking his opponent so hard that they catch fire as well. If that isn't wacky slapstick (post-timeskip, might I add) then I don't know what is. I really don't understand how people can look at the ending of this chapter and think of it as something alien to One Piece or something that Oda is "too mature to do anymore" even though there was absolutley no evidence of that. Sometimes I feel like this fanbase is forever insatiable.
The only complaint about this chapter that I can at least understand, despite not completely agreeing with, is the way that Franky and Usopp's defeats were off panel. Yeah, it would've been nice to see exactly how they got their asses kicked despite it being pretty obvious that both were up against overwhelming odds, but at the same time, what the end of this chapter is setting up more than makes up for that if you ask me. We're finally going to be seeing the aftermath of toys turning back into people and the memories of Dressrosa flowing back to everyone. Things are about to go completely ballistic. If the chapter just ended by showing Franky and Usopp down for the count then I could maybe understand why more people would be disappointed, but the big catalyst has finally been completed. Next chapter is going to be extremely chaotic and I can't wait to see exactly where they take things from here.
I think they were off paneled because they aren't the main fights and they won't be defeated by their current adversary. He doesn't want to show case their strengths and style yet. Those fights will come and we will see what they can do.
Because everyone in the New World seems to have it, so isn't that rare anymore, let's give it to Usopp so that's gonna make the power even more normal than how it is now.
It doesn't have to be normal, from One Piece wiki, the only people with coc are either important to the story, or still pretty strong nonetheless.
I wouldn't put Ussop in the same group as Ace, Whitebeard, Shanks or Chinjao.
Yeah…. I'm not liking this arc very much. I might need to re-read it later just to understand what's happening in some parts. Also Ussop. Just sit the hell down and stay out of the way.
It doesn't have to be normal, from One Piece wiki, the only people with coc are either important to the story, or still pretty strong nonetheless.
I wouldn't put Ussop in the same group as Ace, Whitebeard, Shanks or Chinjao.
I was trolling, he obviously does not deserve any kind of haki, but there's people who was sayin' it last week, I just find it funny, just the same way I find funny that some people still believe Becca will have an enormous power-up from nowhere and defeat Diamante.
Conquerors Haki is found in people that want to make name for themselves on global scale. It's the ability to overpower the opponent will. The question is does Usopp look like someone who can overpower another person's will? Btw, Usopp apart, Conquerors Haki can't knock out Sugar anyway. She's not a small fry. If any SHs will have conquerors haki apart from Luffy, it will be Zoro.
@Mr.:
In other words, having the series go DBZ where semi-serious and more frequently goofy situations from Dragonball are suddenly serious 90% of the time and there are hardly and gag battles? I dunno, Marineford still has the Buggy antics and the Hancock gags. But that was one of the VERY few arcs that had no gag fights, because every arc before or since had at least a few between the "serious" fights, even the weighty arcs like Arlong and Enies Lobby. Skypiea was almost entirely gag fighting as was Drum island and they both sported some of the most serious flashbacks in the series' history. And what was the Davy Back fight if not just a mini-arc designed to pile on gags (save Aokiji)? In fact, I think Marineford might be the only one barring Buggy vs Mihawk and Hancock vs Smoker.
I guess it all depends on what you want out of the series. I had always considered this manga to be half gag half straight and the gag element is really what got me hooked into the series. I always thought the two elements balanced each other out–if it was too gag-based it would have worn thin eventually, too serious and I just wouldn't care because most of the drama is pretty corny (though good corn) and more "hardcore" shounens are a dime a dozen. However, the two halves play off great with the serious aspects, setting a real boffo and potentially subversive joke or gag blindside the reader when the least suspect it, and the serious aspect also allows a method to the madness, something the ground the series to the point where we can actually care about their life & death situations that is. The series could very easily have been a parody of the genre if Oda chose to do it but thankfully he didn't take that easy route.
Oda has an absolutely wicked sense of humor and really loves his outrageous gags, with a creativity in comical character designing and fantasy settings that hooked me since Water 7. I honestly cannot picture him turning this into a super serious fighting series, I imagine it would depress and bore him. Yet he does like his melodramatic set pieces so I can't see him going pure Three Stooges either (at least long-term).
Anyone familiar with the manga Kyou Kara Ore Wa? That one is very similar in style (though aiming for slightly older readers), flagrantly crossing the line between gritty real-life street drama and absolute insane gag-based comedy. I'd call it a more extreme example where "serious" fights can turn into an absolute farce at a complete whim. It even starts out similarly as virtually a gag series and deviates into more serious street grit believable dramatic scenarios.
This is purely opinion of course and I'm not trying to change your mind because I can respect an interest in the more serious side of the manga and can easily see why you or someone else prefer that over the gags.
That's not what I meant, but I like where you got. What I meant by mentioning Marineford is: Death. Only that. Death. One Piece is about pirates, about sword, about guns, about explosions. It should be about death. Many other shounen deal with the subject, too bad they deal with ressurrection too, i get it, to make it "easy on the kids", but, personally, the way Oda deals with death is the only thing I always disliked about One Piece. I'm not alone in that, I know. There should be death. And Ace died. Whitebeard died. We saw the weapons of many near their graves, so we know others died. I thought it may mean a door opening, you know? Oda just loves to make everyone die tragically on flashbacks, so why don't bring that element to the current storyline? It's always been mentioned how everything it dangerous in the One Piece world but, frankly, it isn't. Nothing is dangerous, aside from the sea. Everything is so disturbingly safe.
In this way, I don't want it to be like DBZ at all. It's the opposite. What I like in OP is that death is final. i'm not saying there should be slaughter, but I like to perceive the danger. I loved fishman island arc, because even though the fights were short and easy, Luffy was actually close to death. And why? Because of a single bite! That's how life is, screw up once and you're gone! It was awesome.
My problem isn't (and will never be) the gag element itself. It may be the time and place Oda chooses to use it, but not it's presence. Usopp's been my favorite SH because of the gag element. I've always loved his human side, his fears, his lies… I never wanted that to stop, but i've matured with the series and the characters should too. Luffy is, right now, outside Doffy's window. When would pre-timeskip Luffy do that? He would have jumped already. So even though he rushed to the palace when Viola told them about the other passage, he actually followed the strategy for the next step, because he matured. He didn't lose anything in the process. Usopp did. His comeback to face Trebol straight forward did mean him losing a little of his smartness, even if only for the moment. Even if only for the gag. And that's my problem, a gag shouldn't be used to reduce a character. You can criticize-me if you want for thinking that, but I do. He could have shot from a distance, he's a sniper…
Take Buggy as an example, since you mentioned him. He's one of my two favorite antagonists (the other being Crocodile), and that is solely because of the gag factor. I love that Buggy is still like that after all these years. He's careful, he's a survivalist, just like Usopp. And Usopp lost that at that moment, he would have jeopardized the mission and died, if not for his tendency of making ugly faces and, so, his luck.
You mentioned Drum, Skypiea and Davy Back Fight. This arc have nothing to do with those. It's a battle against one of the strongest Shichibukai. Doffy was referred as "The Most Dangerous Man". If you want to draw a parallel, Arabasta would be the best comparison. It had lots of funny moments, but mostly, it was serious businness. This one should be even more serious. Drum was to introduct Chopper. There's no way you can compare Wapol to Doflamingo. Same goes for Foxy. Skypiea was hardy, because Enel was powerful, but Luffy was his natural enemy and Enel also lacked really strong companions. Davy Back Fight was very funny, but overall was mostly... stupid and boring.
Personally, you mentioned some of my least favorite arcs. There are characters I like deriving from these arcs, but the arcs weren't nearly as interesting as Arabasta and Enies Lobby, which were more serious arcs. They were important though, and very fun. But not compelling.
Anyway, you got to a point that interested me, but I got a bit lost from my previous point: my problem wasn't the gag, is was the building of expectations! It's like a cold shower to have your favorite protagonist being built up so much for a specific deal, and then have it been done out of sheer luck. I would have loved if he had a nice fight (on screen), lost it, and then the gag moment happened. Because I would have seen the fight, I would have seen his struggles. But I'd have liked to see Usopp do at least one intelligent move, to make me believe his strategic side is still there.
So my complain is that off-screening and gags are not a good combination. They can both be done, but together they don't make the right impression on me. One thing I cannot deny: it was one of the funniest scenes on the series.
About Dragon Ball: DB has more mature content than DBZ. You can even see Bulma's nipples at some point, not to mention that she flashes her pussy to Roshi. Toriyama removed that aspect from DBZ to make it more violent, since having the two elements combined was "too much" for Jump. it's not the case here, one piece has very little fanservice, it's mostly cleavage.
PS: sorry for the big text (another one…). I'm just awful at making it simple.
I was thinking…what if dofla,once defeated,chased by the marines,by kaidou and by all dressrosa,just makes sugar turn him into a toy and vanishes for a bit,while the entire world has forgotten about him?that would be a could way to keep him in the story,just waiting for his return
does sugar too forgets about who the guy she just turned into a toy was?
I had the same idea a while back. Sort of an exit strategy in case everything fails for him. He should h ave one, considering everything he's involved with.
We don't know if Sugar also forgets people she turns. But it wouldn't be hard to leave her a note or something.
Lol you matured with it because you've been reading it for 10years. OP timeline is two and half years. Sorry Usopp can't mature with you.
Loved the chapter. Oda at his finest. Probably one of the funniest moments ever in One Piece. Dressrosa is turning out to be one of my favorite arcs. Different pacing style (Feels like an action movie), unexpected outcomes. I can't wait to look back on this years from now and remember that Usoland face.
I hope anime team is aware of the blessing they received with Oda skipping fights like this. If there are any creative minds there, they should be jumping at the opportunity to get busy with filler fights that can allow them to keep the pacing decent.
Do you guys think that Kyros stopped from aging since he turned into a toy?
nice chapter, but i thought the love story was lazily written. it's overused in most of the shounen mangas, i kinda expected oda to be more original in it.
and i don't think i fully understood kyros's backstory, why is he fighting? why did they kill his friend? who killed his friend? why wasn't his friend shown?
i think the events in this chapter should've been expanded to 1 or 2 more chapters.
edit: sorry, he did avenge him.
I'm not sure what I want anymore. I want Ussop to do something. I want Ussop to cleverly outsmart or find some kind of way to sneak the tatatabsco into Sugar's mouth mouth.
But then I'm told it's impossible and couldn't happen.
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nice chapter, but i thought the love story was lazily written. it's overused in most of the shounen mangas, i kinda expected oda to be more original in it.
and i don't think i fully understood kyros's backstory, why is he fighting? why did they kill his friend? who killed his friend? why didn't he avenge him? why wasn't his friend shown?
i think the events in this chapter should've been expanded to 1 or 2 more chapters.
Well he did avenge him, when he killed those guys. They called him killer, you know.
I guess his friend isn't important. Nor is the source of his incredible skill. I'm a little disappointed with the flashback too. The way it started, I expected Kyros to be a character who affected the world known figures, like Mihawk, or Shanks. But instead, Oda contained him to Dressrosa, which makes no sense for someone who people from all across the world came to fight. As far as we know, he never fought anyone of all the older characters we met in OP so far. I think Oda missed an opportunity here.
Yeah, the flashback should have been longer.
Do you guys think that Kyros stopped from aging since he turned into a toy?
I think yes. It's the same as Sugar being stuck in a child's body. So I think we'll see prime Kyros. The one legged badass.
I'm up all night to get lucky.
@superv:
nice chapter, but i thought the love story was lazily written. it's overused in most of the shounen mangas, i kinda expected oda to be more original in it.
and i don't think i fully understood kyros's backstory, why is he fighting? why did they kill his friend? who killed his friend? why wasn't his friend shown?
i think the events in this chapter should've been expanded to 1 or 2 more chapters.
edit: sorry, he did avenge him.
some people will whine about how much oda put o the flashback and they want him to just focus on the story. you cant satisfy everyone. i too feel this flashback is kinda rushed thought. this should flashback should be the whole chapter with kyros' cry over scarlet as the ending.
I'm not sure what I want anymore. I want Ussop to do something. I want Ussop to cleverly outsmart or find some kind of way to sneak the tatatabsco into Sugar's mouth mouth.
But then I'm told it's impossible and couldn't happen.
Yeah, expected he would pull something like that, with all his situational plants and shit. Didn't expect he would use Conqueror Haki while burping some chilli in Sugar's face.
@Da:
I think yes. It's the same as Sugar being stuck in a child's body. So I think we'll see prime Kyros. The one legged badass.
Only with one fucking leg. Can't wait to see if there was any point in him losing it.
He can hop around like those one legged dwarves in Narnia, though.
Only with one fucking leg. Can't wait to see if there was any point in him losing it.
He can hop around like those one legged dwarves in Narnia, though.
It's gonna be weird to see a one legged dude fighting. At least Zeff had a fake one. I'm wondering maybe Law will play a role in this. Switch Kyros and Riku's souls, maybe.
I'm up all night to get lucky.
@Da:
It's gonna be weird to see a one legged dude fighting. At least Zeff had a fake one. I'm wondering maybe Law will play a role in this. Switch Kyros and Riku's souls, maybe.
King Riku's still quite beaten up, not sure if that's really a better decision.
